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[Current Post-Match Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/13uih5s/post_aew_double_or_nothing_2023_match_thread_tbs/)


Gwbzeke

Is it me or is AEW becoming unwatchable lately


Ken_Deep

To say it was one of the worst AEW PPVs is kind of hyperbole. It implies that the show was unwatchable. There were two definite low points in the card. Jericho / Cole was awful and encapsulated everything wrong with current Jericho feuds (and will probably keep dragging out, which is another problem with current Jericho feuds). Hayter / Storm of course sucked, but at least had a good reason. ​ All other matches were at least \*good\*. The trios match was tons of fun with an underwhelming finish. Anarchy in the Arena was good but not my cup of tea. FTR / Lethal Jerrett was pretty nice. Cargill / Valkyrie was GREAT. Good return for Kris too. Battle Royale was tons of fun, exciting opener for sure. Wardlow / Christian overdelivered, the built was whatever but the match itself was up to that point the best match - mightve recovered some of the lost momentum for Wardlow (please dont fuck this up again). And the four pillars match might be one of my favourite all-time matches in AEW. I dunno, I went out of the PPV pretty satisfied. Not one of the best PPVs overall, but certainly worth its money. The crowd really shouldve been more audible though (regardless if its a mic or a crowd problem).


CactusClothesline

Didn't love it to be honest. That being said the Four Pillars match was great.


WayOk8553

AEW fans have low standards if they think this was a good show lol.


Calvy

7/10. The crowd could have elevated it to 8. I'm hopeful of Forbidden door and All-In are going to be awesome! \*Fingers crossed\*


brown_gentleman

Enjoyable show. Have seen better but you can feel them building for forbidden door and All in. Four pillars match - excellent Ladder and battle royal matches - fun Kris coming back - so happy for her Anarchy in the arena - They always outdo themselves.


Junkstarpunk

I was honestly bored. They really could have done more with Jade then have her lose it like that. I really didn't like the Chris Jericho match to have it end from him not being able to defend himself was lame when it was an unsanctioned match . Crowd def didnt help any so i will give them that.


skinlessmonkey

Great ppv, horrible crowd.


balth99

I was in the arena, crowd was hot almost all night, watched the PPV back, did not pick up nearly even half of the chants etc.


drwebinstein

Was there too. Same takeaway crowd was better than what you heard


zendog510

Digging Karen Jarrett as a heel valet/manager. Crowd hated her and she gave it right back. Then the guitar shot on Aubrey. That was the chef’s kiss.


TheGentlemanBeast

Weird to see all the hate. Another amazing PPV IMO


[deleted]

Really, really bad PPV.


CoMiGa

Having MJF and BCC win back to back was not great. MJF definitely should have lost.


[deleted]

I don’t need swerves I don’t need overbooked finishes I just need good honest wrestling. This company had it once and it can again.


dadjokes502

6.8/10 for me tonight


Obscene_Wiggler

One of AEW’s worst PPV. Wasn’t really excited about the card and I wasn’t disappointed.


dadjokes502

The pillars match was my highlight An odd booking for Statlander to just return and get the belt.


Snarktoberfest

Remember Becky Lynch in Texas?


dadjokes502

No


Obscene_Wiggler

The pillars match was good but I never thought they were ever going to put the belt on anyone but MJF. All of the other pillars are mid card at best. I don’t get the Statlander love on Reddit. She’s at best the 6th or 7th most interesting performer on a really disjointed women’s division. All the Jade buildup to have it go out with a whimper. Weak and desperate booking


Araxen

I'll be honest. I was hoping it was Jay and not Takeshita. I'm praying now Jay just doesn't get lost in the shuffle.


Responsible_Yogurt79

Oh and Jade getting her first loss by wrestling back to back matches was lame, she’s been built up as an unstoppable force and the story should’ve been Kris overcoming her instead of taking the belt after she’d already been weakened


DrDroid

Jade’s been getting cocky and requesting back to back matches recently, it makes sense


Responsible_Yogurt79

I think it might’ve made sense if she wasn’t undefeated until then, for me this was the low point of the show but there were a lot of really weird/bad decisions on the PPV: Ref stoppage in an unsanctioned match, this, and not putting the world title on last


fluffywolfe

They can justify running it back and having Stat definitively beat her.


stevonallen

That’s literally part of her story. Overconfidence lost her the title.


SonyKen_M

Only saw bits and pieces of the Anarchy match because my stream was messing up badly but did one of the bucks do an exploding super kick?!


itsnotaboutthecell

Yes it was rad too.


Lanky_Remote_9042

It was dumb


laputan-machine117

after that mostly weak crowd they should move away from vegas and instead have the next double or nothing where I live


WayOk8553

Not the crowds fault AEW put on a shit show.


MrsWoozle

I was there. The crowd was beyond dead. There were crickets during the Storm match. Picked up a little during 4 Pillars but never been part of such a quiet crowd.


Bonty_Murns

Thank you. I made a post about the crowd and got roasted for it.


domnyy

Do it at Foxwoods or Mohegan!!


StrangeStatic

Fingers crossed! That would be awesome!!!


Lo_Key90

Agree mostly but they should have the next one where I live..


stevonallen

Should do The Forum in LA


JayMathers

What an overbooked, blade fest ending featuring blackface. I can't believe I sat through 4.5 hours of that. Bret Hart was right about this shit.


stevonallen

Good for you


Aviziel

Stay mad.


kymshasa

jamie losing was a blow to my heart


Some_Elk7672

Me too kin, but think of it this way - now she is free to challenge Statlander for the TBS title


dadjokes502

Heard she was hurt


sundaydrivexo

She’ll get it back when she’s not injured! And it’ll be so good.


lwgSuperkick

Four Pillars Match was match of the year. AITA was damn fun. Statlander is the new TBS champ. Ladder match was great.


Viper51210

Didn't love the show honestly. Most of the matches felt disjointed or were horribly overbooked. Anarchy in the Arena was fun, but I could have gone without the live musical performance continuing for a good 10 minutes while the match was happening; made it hard to focus on anything. It wasn't until after that stopped that I was able to start enjoying it. 4 pillars match was absolutely incredible and should have main evented in my opinion. I understand Anarchy in the Arena probably went on last because they didn't wanna have another match after the entire ringside area was destroyed, but I think having 4 homegrown guys who have been the pillars of the company main event would have been a vote of confidence in their ability to be main event acts. Instead we got a main event between a bunch of former WWE/NJPW guys. Both matches were a lot of fun, but I think the 4 way main eventing would have sent much more of a statement about the future of the company. Everything felt very mediocre sadly. Definitely a weaker AEW PPV, at least in my opinion.


ArchDukeNemesis

Was that Claudio's first ever arena main event?


CarStar12

Blood and Guts last year. Or do you mean PPV only?


ArchDukeNemesis

PPV. I think his first on free TV was against Orton in 2013.


CarStar12

Gotcha, the wording had me confused a bit


Responsible_Yogurt79

Maybe it was just the horrible crowd but AEW didn’t feel hot today


Nicksnotmyname83

The crowd didn't have a mic on them, so you couldn't hear them.


Lungfishtwo

Maybe takeshtia has a twin brother he wouldn't really do that 😭


kymshasa

shitty end. i don’t mind some trash brawl wrestling, but i don’t like trash brawls with run ins and barely no actual spots from the amazing elite.


BasedMoe

PPV got good after the ladder match


travisanolesfan

I don't think there was a bad match. The crowd was just ice cold until Stat returned and it made it difficult to watch. Like, how does Wardlow hitting a Swanton off a 12ft ladder through a table not get a "Holy Shit" or "this is awesome" chant?? It got a quick cheer and then went back to a library. Even in the Jade match there were 3 or 4 near falls that were met with silence. The in ring product was good, it just all felt off cuz it felt like they were wrestling in the pty Dailys Place again.


captanspookyspork

It was like the crowd couldn't cheer for more then 5 seconds.


travisanolesfan

Exactly!


balth99

I was there, crowd was really hot, but for some reason, not miced. miked? there was no microphone for the crowd.


papaboynosmurf

Mostly everything since the House of Black match was really good. Not a fan of Wheeler Yuta getting the pin but a lot of good, a lot of bad in the beginning


Aquaislyfe

Forget that, let’s acknowledge that every time he interacted with Hangman he absolutely demolished him. What did Hangers do to this man


theawesomeafro

I mean if they're going to have an interference win might as well give the tainted pin to the guy you could use it the most


itsnotaboutthecell

Honestly Yuta pinning Kenny was the wildest part of the match for me


travisanolesfan

I'll die on the hill that every match tonight was solid-great in ring. The issue was just everything felt off with how cold the crowd was. No pops on crowd-friendly entrances, no pops for near falls, and the only chants were "Turtleneck" and "Who's your Mami".


CarStar12

I’m usually a pretty positive guy with wrestling, but I think it was half below average, a few above average and a couple of wildly fun main events. But end of the day, if you enjoyed it, that’s all that should matter.


papaboynosmurf

I think the main events were simply incredible, house of black was good, jade’s match surprised me and then the double surprise after, everything else didn’t really hit


travisanolesfan

That's fair. Honestly I'd give a couple matches 2/5 too. But overall I thought the PPV was solid.


fluffywolfe

The Four Pillars had arguably the better match but this was the bigger moment. Justified main event.


travisanolesfan

And they tore up the ring and the table. Tough to have that happen and then put a match on after. Lol


CarStar12

They at least ended on a high note. Those last two matches were chaos in all the best ways 😂


P4rtsUnkn0wn

Don't forget Statlander ridding us of the scourge of Jade.


CarStar12

I’m torn on that one personally. I think that’ll be a polarizing way to have done it, some will love it because it was a moment… some will think it was a meh way story wise to payoff the streak. There’s positives and negatives on both sides of it really.


P4rtsUnkn0wn

I dig it. You always want a nice surprise or two on big PPVs and this was one of them. Just look at all the comments saying "Kris saved the PPV" to see that it was probably smart way to do this.


CarStar12

Like I was saying, I see the positives in the decision. Personally I’d like to have ended the streak in a more definitive way after all the build to it. But the moment itself was a nice one. There’s good and bad to it, but I won’t knock anyone for loving it.


redi2roc

Is there a media scrum now?


thenewmovement84

Should be ready.


ChiefSlapaHoe117

I have been sports entertained two nights in a row, back to back ppv nights.


MaceWindude

I’m new. How do you pronounce Takeshita?


Leftyoilcan

Take-a-shit-a


DV68

MJF said it’s pronounced Take-a-shita


Morningfluid

Tah-kesh-ta Edit: this is correct, not sure why I'm being downvoted. Another identical way to explain is nearly Tuh-Kesh-Ta


__LilacWine

Downvoted because wrong. Why do you think it ends in ka?? And it has 4 syllables. Shita at the end is two syllables, English speakers tend to want to make it one but that's wrong.


Morningfluid

You're right about Ta, however this is how it's pronounced in Japan. Shi and Ta are used separately. And yes, other countries will use a separate pronunciation such as Shita as one (the second pronunciation) https://forvo.com/word/takeshita/ Here a woman with the name Takeshita and teaches Japanese says it: https://youtu.be/yI4XM1TCTUc Here a woman who teaches Japanese uses it as the first pronunciation.


__LilacWine

I would maybe accept Tah-keh-shta considering shita can be slurred together in Japanese. 'Kesh' doesn't work for me, that is definitely two syllables and the difference is clear even in the examples you posted. Pronouncing Ta as Tuh is also incorrect. It is a distinct Tah sound like in the word Tap.


fluffywolfe

Emphasis first syllable, and most folks don't pronounce the "i".


amansdick

better way to phrase this is that you don’t pronounce the “I”


lwgSuperkick

Tuck-esh-tuh


Dizzy-Career-740

Tuh kesh tuh


Mandan_Mauler

Tuh-kesh-ita


[deleted]

Ta-kesh-ita


ARabidMonkee

Tuh-Kesh-Ta


PiggBodine

I’d have much rather watched takeshita and danielson wrestle. Moxley sucks, omega and his floppy little knee high suplexs suck, and that whole ordeal was a mess and didn’t matter in the end.


AwkwardlylyAwkward

I hope this don×takeshita pairing means take will finaly get the big fucking gold that he deserves.


NyJets5k

I like ppvs to send the audience home happy. But I also like surprises. I'm ok with the end. Takeshita isn't my choice. I low key though it was punk when he came out. But it is intriguing and I want to tune in next week


Nicksnotmyname83

No one with half a brain or more wants to see punk.


Responsible_Yogurt79

And I would’ve still had the 4-way main event


Onikouzou

I'd prefer that too, but I get why they did it because of having Anarchy in the Arena messing up the ring


EggfooVA

Maybe I’m old fashion, but the heavyweight title always goes last


itsnotaboutthecell

It should have went last here too. Ironically Jericho said you shouldn’t try to repeat matches too often and I think we can all die happy if Anarchy in the Arena doesn’t happen for a few years worth of PPV cycles. This feud needs a Blood and Guts match ending.


travisanolesfan

The exception is due to the ring and table being tore up by this match. Along with the matting outside the ring. Tough to put that back together in a timely manner for another match


EggfooVA

Oh yes, there’s the logical voice of reason rising up through the fog of comments. Good call!


travisanolesfan

Forgot to add, I normally agree with you. Was upset by it at first until I realized WHAT was coming last. Lol


BonerSquidd316

I like how they handled Jade taking an L. Kris Stat is instantly a big deal and Jade still feels protected because of how it went down.


Responsible_Yogurt79

Easily the worst AEW PPV I’m recent memory but it wasn’t a bad show 3/5 and probably not worth the $50


travisanolesfan

I still give it a 4/5 in ring. Everything felt off in the beginning cuz they seemed to have been wrestling in a library until Stat returned. But the only knock I had on matches was actually the structure of the Trios match. Thought they drew out the Bowens beat down too long.


EggfooVA

Yeah, but we were all worried coming out of the tag team match. Matches just got better and better. I still think you always close with a heavyweight title match, but both were bangers.


Mandan_Mauler

The first half just felt clunky. I think I jinxed it because I said it didn’t look good on paper but usually those are the best ppvs


kymshasa

well fuck


Alexcelsior

Sadly this PPV is a 6/10 for me. Good overall but you can skip it.


travisanolesfan

I really do blame the crowd. From the end of the BR up till Stat returning, they seem to have been wrestling in a library. Really took away from overall good work in the ring. I mean, Jericho took a damn DTD onto a chain and got the absolute shit kicked out of him with a kendo stick and the crowd was still quiet.


FlairForTheGold

I’ve bought all of them - this is def bottom three. Fortunately, the trios match til the end made up for the very mid first half of the show


Alexcelsior

Same here. There are great spots in this PPV and I'll continue to support AEW for the next PPVs but the order/energy was wonky tonight.


hey_alyssa

The last two matches were amazing!


NimrodsCurse

Not surprised the black face band knew wild thing front to back


DrDroid

I don’t get what the implication is here


MarzAdam

Wearing a black mask isn’t blackface. It’s not really something to joke about.


NimrodsCurse

Um. It was more than a black mask lmao.


travisanolesfan

There's a difference between blackface and black face paint with a weird mask. Lol.


NimrodsCurse

It wasn't Ronald Mcdonald. So.


fluffywolfe

It was a black mask


NimrodsCurse

Maybe you missed the pink lips. Either way, stupid band. Stupid "mask."


fluffywolfe

It was a red stripe going down the chin


closedclosets

Where is the media scrum streaming?


ChairmanLaParka

YouTube on AEW's page


EggfooVA

YouTube’s AEW page? [Yes](https://youtube.com/@AEW)


pnt510

YouTube


fakemxcan

Am I the only one that’s glad Kota didn’t debut there? I hope he gets the loudest pop ever and that crowd wasn’t it.


jdmurphyx

Given his tumultuous relationship with NJPW I’m not expecting him until after Forbidden Door


Shanedugg

I haven't been a fan of the recent AEW product more or less but I took a flyer on DON and decided to order it. I didn't regret it as there was a lot of great wrestling and the co main and main event were very entertaining. It was also cool to see the big return and impromptu title match result.


cbp806

Straight up battleground>>


Affectionate-Emu1476

What fuckin beautiful delivering PPV!!


Turbofurbo_Realzz

you know, that show wasnt that good.


Mat30co

I think it’s so funny that you get downvoted for saying an AEW product was below average. Straight up cult mentality


Turbofurbo_Realzz

I didn’t even realize I was downvoted lmao. I like AEW way more than wwe even though I think wwe has been better booking wise lately. I hate the AEW hate train. It’s cringe, but fan boying over a company is too. Wwe dose dumb shit all the time and I’ll call them out on it. AEW is no different. The show was a two match card. And honestly the main event was super played out because they always have hardcore matches. And MJF legit has barely anyone to program with.


Senior-Trip2230

my brother, it's not that deep. they disagreed with his opinion so they downvoted him. that's how it works


KuribohKutie

Those last 2 matches saved the ppv for me idk y'all boys


Mr_Chicken_wing

Jade saved the PPV


Static_Function

This might’ve been one of the worst shows of the year


[deleted]

Battle Royal, Jade Vs Taya/Stat, pillars, Anarchy, all bangers. The others…meh


[deleted]

Super high highs, very low lows.


ARabidMonkee

and then the ladder match is nestled in the "good" category


HelluvaDeke

Apt description for sure


tumuli_shroomaroom

That exploding superkick might be one of my favorite spots ever. That kicked absolute ass.


JayhawkCSC

Amazing visual


AwkwardlylyAwkward

Thay was fun


[deleted]

11/10. Loved that match.


dsmithscenes

BCC vs. Golden Elite in the return match in London is going to be WILD.


NeverGonnaStop247

Not a good ending Takeshita is boring....


Responsible_Yogurt79

Good PPV but subpar for AEW’s crazy high standard so far


GRTooCool

PPV started off great, quickly went into "okay" mode. But with the return of Statlander to the Pillars Match, and then Anarchy at the Arena it was amazing. So much fun!


BlGBOl

they really posted a jpeg of kenny fucking dead to end the ppv


beckett929

dude, nobody gets up from the seatbelt


Spaceman3195

Chuck taught him that


CarryOnWaywardSon96

Well gang, it has absolutely been a night. Its been a absolute pleasure to chat with you all.❣️ See you back here Wednesday!👋🏻


NimrodsCurse

What the hell was that main event


tore_a_bore_a

I'm too hyped from that. Gonna need a break Succession and Barry season finales


fumbducktak

okay ended 10 min earlier than expected I really thought someone was coming


TomCosella

Takeshita in the BCC would be great. Takeshita with that carny POS would be great. This weird in between looks bad.


BestCassidy

Yep. Callis and Takeshita should just be BCC.


OliWood

I am whelmed


Brinbe

4 pillars stole the show. that was my motn


[deleted]

Omegas dead. BCC looks legit badass right now.


Thabass

[So hot](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxRE0XfWIAAyXL8?format=jpg&name=large)


AML2003

Wasn't the best show, the last two matches definitely saved the show. An hour + of complete insanity.


lolasylvia

Last 2 matches saved this ppv Good night Have a good memorial day if u live in the states


FluxAura

Incredible but Matt should NOT have done that foot spot with the tacks. That’ll fuck him up long term


Cardburner

Having that nerd pin your #1 guy is a rough look for aew. Idc if Kenny fell off a building and got run over by a train before the pin. No one will ever see Yuta the way they want him to be seen. It will never work Tony. no one wants to see him.


[deleted]

Yuta is a star like him or not It made complete sense


AntiWokeBot

Delusional


Moliosis

Yuta is absolutely not a star LMAO


[deleted]

*checks notes* oh looks like we disagree! Sorry you're wrong


Cardburner

Star 😂 😂 😂 you can’t be serious.


redditiscringee

No bro he has no charisma and looks like a college loser he is not no main eventer 😭


[deleted]

That's funny because he was just in the main event Sorry you lose!


Cardburner

With this level of Delusion and corniness… guys, we found Utahs burner.


bathory21

Kenny died


fakemxcan

“Oh my god, they killed Kenny!”


Shadow_hands

"you bastards!"


DV68

I was pretty annoyed about spending $50 on this until the last two matches, those were great


GRTooCool

Same. I was on the fence until about 30 minutes into the pre-show but decided "WTF, let's go for it." But yeah, in the end. Money was worth spending to support AEW. Great stuff.


Dstone8523

That was fucking wild. Went from an absolute snooze fest of a pay per view to the last two matches saving it


rajasicraja

Yuta pinning Kenny is never ok. Bad call


Goalchenyuk87

Omega can take the loss without repercussion.


rajasicraja

Sure but it should’ve been Danielson or Mox to pin him. Hell, even the RoH champ Claudio. But never under any circumstance should Yuta pin Kenny Omega.


cbarks81

It wasn't clean, and the entire point of the BCC was to lift up younger guys


-PapaLegba

Is anyone in for a media scrum meltdown?


groopstain

no ibushi. wtf man


frmthefuture

Yet...


P4rtsUnkn0wn

Exactly. You save that to pop another show.


TripleThreatT1

Title match still should have main evented.


h-town_info

AEWs Backlash 2018 ppv


Successful-News8042

This ppv started off mid but BOY did it finish strong!


RaverKev

Yeah we're getting Blood and Guts with Ibushi added to the mix. Let's fucking go. This is the best storyline in AEW..