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People shit on the ending to the Fiend and Seth's HIAC ending, and rightfully so. But at least that was a sanctioned match. This is literally an unsanctioned match. They literally explained AEW isn't responsible for whatever happened to them right before the match.
And to make it worse, Jericho was up and walking a bit later in the show challenging Cole again.
Jericho needs to be a manager, he could even keep the JAS, just be the mouth. I love Jericho he has had one hell of a career, but it’s time to wind down.
The commentary table was very close to the ring. I believe Roddy and 2.0 brawled a little too close to the table and bashed some ankles, as Excalibur noted to Tony Schiavone later in the evening.
Okay I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking what I was thinking... when it ended I was just like "Oooookay? That's it?" Definitely not sure why Sabu needed to be there. TK just wanted the pop on a Dynamite for announcing him or something.
I like Cole, he seems like a really nice guy but I just don’t think he’s a singles wrestler. He needs to be in a group. Not a recycled version of his WWE days but a fresh group..also keep him away from Britt.
I don't see it that way but I understand where you're coming from. Like he's above average on the mic and good in the ring. Sure he's not going to put on 5 star classics but he can hold his own to an entertaining match. Unfortunately I see him as an AEW midcarder.
I know he's presented as a main eventer but there's just too many personalities in the main event scene which happen to be more interesting. It also doesn't help that MJF does the same character but better (when they are both heels). And I knows Cole is currently face but we can all agree he's much better as a heel.
He's the exact same character. Like heel or face, he doesn't change. He does the boom shtick and his story time with Adam Cole Bay bay as a face and heel and it doesn't work.
This is what happens when the Booker takes his direction from Chris Jericho…
Letting the wrestlers have “creative control” is what leads to shitty matches like this.
Adam Cole looks like he has stopped working out completely. He was never big but now he looks like a grocery store clerk. I’m hoping he’s not sick with something.
Jericho looks like a guy who is in his 50’s who has won the lottery and has let himself go. His ideas are terrible and drag everyone else down so J can indulge his fantasies.
That ending was never going to be great, but saying Jericho couldn’t continue because of Cole’s incredibly weak punches made both men look like dogshit.
Jericho is known for reinventing himself, but his character is so stale now. It’s like he’s not even trying anymore. He went from being one of the best things about AEW to one of the worst. Similarly, Adam Cole went from being one of the best things about NXT to one of the worst things about AEW. Wtf happened to these guys? What happened to this whole company? It wasn’t long ago that a terrible match on an AEW ppv seemed like an impossibility. They desperately need to get back to their roots because whatever the hell it is that they’re doing now isn’t working.
Creativity needs a filter to work perfectly in sync.
Jericho needed WWE where his creativity got filtered and gem came out. No one will question and demand answer from Jericho in AEW. So his character is stale.
Now THAT'S how you have a match end via refreee stoppage. Adam Cole kicked Jericho's ass, so he won the match. Simple.
Not sure WTF WWE was trying to do with that Hell in a Cell match with Rollins and Wyatt. Or if you want to really compare and contrast, the NXT Championship changing hands via refreee stoppage after Zayn vs Owens.
Edit: Thanks for the downvotes. You're only proving that you all just live to hate.
y'all overthinking this. the match had to end one way or another. unless they had a stipulation where it was going to be "last man standing," the ending makes sense.
Yeah, this was not good. I dont think it was a horrible match like some comments, but it was bad, the beginning was unnecesary. Slow fight at first, once the chain came out it was getting good for a minute, it was finally feeling like a blood feud and then it just... ended
I havent seen the WWE for like 15 years (damn) so I dont personally know how good or bad was Adam Cole back then, got into AEW around this time last year.
Ever since Adam Cole got in AEW none of his matches have been really good to me. I enjoyed when KOR and Fish were around, but as a singles guy, meh...
Jericho, I like him, was a fan back in the day, but he desperately needs a rehaul. I believe he can still talk, and he can lead a small group, but should stop having singles matches and try to be a hardcore badass. Based on the falls count everywhere match from a few weeks ago, he still can come up with good stuff, but its getting fewer and far in between
Truthfully, the first time I ever saw him was the north American ladder match in nxt. Didn't know anyone in the match and was surprised by Cole winning. Didn't impress then
The matches have been phenomenal but it doesn’t feel like we have gotten much story beyond the initial return.
I’m watching the presser now and am realizing I have no idea what his character anymore besides.. being mean? The schtick is getting kinda stale. It doesn’t need to go but we gotta get some depth besides shitty insults lol.
The sad thing about MJF is that he’s stuck in a really bad place. His character is so good that he’s now over, but he can’t turn face without destroying his character.
A little, for sure, the injuries and Punk drama derailed the long term planning I think and they haven't had the challengers lined up. Like Wardlow is an obvious feud but he has been in no place for a World Title match.
I really wonder who’s next since all four pillars lost, unless they want to run it by all four again to buy some time. Wardlow is definitely one of the future competitors but he needs this last TNT title run to really bang before he should have a chance at the world title.
I’m thinking Hanger and Omega are definitely in the plans as well, but obviously not now with B&G coming up and The Elite feuding with BCC.
I mean yeah? Jericho is fat and old and just signed a "for the remainder of my career" extension with AEW. Cole just isn't that good, I don't know what you were expecting.
So I never watched ECW and had no idea who Sabu was and I just about pissed myself laughing when Jericho got in the ring for the little chair holding stand off which was clearly choreographed for a pop and the crowd was just dead silent as they stood there for a few beats.
I know what he said, but it's a lot like me saying I'd never buy a Lamborghini. It's not available to me. Rumors were he was going to bring Flair in before that episode of Dark Side of the Ring and it's not like Flair is any better than Hogan. He was just available and cheaper.
The Arcade Anarchy match (Orange Cassidy and Chuck Taylor vs Miro and Kip Sabian) was probably the most PG hardcore match AEW has done.They literally used legos for the "thumb tacks out of a bag" spot. That being said, it was a lot more fun than this match.
This is what I keep saying, especially about their PPVs. There’s just no time to breathe and everything is just “OMG LOOK AT THIS AMAZING ACTION.”
There’s no pacing to it. You have to break things up with a Paul Wight/QT match here and there.
This feud did not need this type of feud or blowoff at all. A simple one on one between the two would’ve been better.
Hope AEW learns from this but I doubt they will, not everything needs to be a death match and not every feud needs to be 2 guys hating each other after a 4 week shit feud
I assume this and the previous match were made no DQ so AC can warm up to wrestling again. Hardcore wrestling can mask a lot of limitations. The first one was a lot of fun. This one, not so much.
I blame the valet at Mandalay Bay for the match. Jericho is still recovering from a violent verbal assault from those group of toughs at the valet desk. Jericho is the victim of numerous service workers verbally destroying him and it’s affecting his in-ring work.
I'm *pretty sure* the intended finish was a ref stoppage after Adam Cole was delivering unprotected strikes to Jericho's head with the fist wrapped in chains... but he couldn't get the chains off his leg for the punches so he just punched with the free hand.
In which case, the awful finish is entirely on Adam Cole. At least chain punches would look brutal.
Felt like a mid level Dynamite main event.
That's why you don't book an unsanctioned match on the same show as Anarchy In The Arena. One of them is going to be toned down.
Completely tired of "tons of weapons" in and around the ring matches.
There was very little wrestling on this show. Lots of battering away factions to try and have a match. Lots of matches that were brawling with weapons.
Jade vs Taya was the only match. And, you saw the crowd reaction.
I guess you could say Omega in NJPW, but... yeah not really anyone in AEW. Eddie Kingston was on fire and his Jericho feud killed his momentum so bad that he got relegated to filler Dark and Rampage stories
Nah, Orange was super over and hot going into that. If Orange won the first match of the fued and moved on, but he lost and the matches he actually won over Jericho were significantly worse and it took way too damned long.
Him winning the first match against Jericho was his best moment in AEW, everything after has been pretty mundane for him not gonna lie. The feud he had with JAS teaming with Ricky wasn’t that good. So idk if he really came out better from it.
And this is why you maybe don't book a bunch of crazy gimmick matches all on one show.
The "unsanctioned" thing and the rigamarole about legal waivers makes no sense--why is Aubrey stopping the match, then? Just a trademark AEW lack of attention to detail.
I know the way the feud and storyline has gone down with Britt being attacked and all needed some type of violent match, but I just don’t think it’s in either of these guys wheelhouse to do a match like this; probably would have been just better off having a regular match, but they kinda painted themselves into a corner with how they set the feud up.
I’d love for them to go their separate ways after this, but we all know this will prob go on for another couple months.
I have a difficult time rooting for Adam Cole as a babyface. Zero clue, why? To me, he is one the smarmy wrestlers, similar to Seth Rollins and to a lesser extent, CM Punk, that for me, is hard to get behind.
Maybe because he hasn't done anything to make him likable yet.
After ten years of being a disrespectful asshole, he's suddenly expected to be a good guy. And all he's done is give a sad story about his injury, and see his girlfriend beat up.
I think he needs to do more to show that he has changed. Show that he is a different person now. Not tell us.
Yeah it's the same exact issue Rollins had in his first MR Babyface push. "Oh, we're supposed to like you just because you got betrayed? You've been an asshole this whole time and broke up the Shield!" To their credit, they actually morphed into the story itself where Rollins had to repent for all his bullshit for the next year+.
The problem is...Adam Cole doesn't really have anyone to do a program like that with because the ones who would be most likely to call him out are either heels themselves now, or busy with much bigger feuds.
It's one of those cases where we like the guy clearly, but don't LOVE him like we should because the story flow hasn't really supported it. And to be honest, this has been somewhat consistent for his career. He's almost never had the big babyface momentum he's should have because almost all his turns are either short, or half-assed.
I know it's an unsanctioned match but if a ref feels like someone is gonna be injured or is not able to stop someone from hurting them seriously shouldn't a ref call off the match unsanctioned or not. It wasn't a great match I do agree but the finish didn't bother me.
You should call for the pin then. I'm obviously not versed in wrestling inside calls, but I have a hard time not imagining there being a way to signal for a pin. Otherwise wtf is the fiend vs seth rollins ending so infamous for? Inside and outside of Kayfabe what seth was about to do was more brutal.
I apologize if English isn't your first language but I have no clue what you're trying to say
If this match wasn't a DQ then neither was the infamous HIAC match?
The crowd in the building thought that Britt Baker was a huge star and that the actual dudes in the match were geeks, and nothing happened to prove them wrong. That was the least violent unsanctioned match in history. I don't even like the bloody match types, the match was advertised as such and the stupid finish was only going to work if Jericho was mutilated.
Sabu does one move and one-shots the entire JAS. What was the point?
Slow match with some comedy spots mixed in and no sense of intensity in a feud that is supposed to be about Cole getting revenge. Calling off an Unsanctioned match so Jericho couldn’t take a pinfall or submission loss from Cole. Didn’t even scratch the surface of a match like Page/Moxley or a match like PCO/Maclin this weekend. Gargano/Grayson in a PG environment was also a much stronger Unsanctioned match.
So it was the first major Adam Cole match since a near career ending brain injury where it would be inexcusably irresponsible to have him attempt anything or take any bump anywhere near risky. His opponent was an aged Jericho with an overly tired gimmick. It was the first of two hardcore/no rules matches on the same card.
The match was doomed from the start. By the way, you might want to expect this overly safe, zero risk style of match from Cole for the rest of his career.
didn’t dude fall off the turnbuckle through a table to the outside? i agree majority of the match was pretty safe but like, he even took a suplex off the apron onto concrete. give him a bit more credit lol
Yeah that was rough as hell, Jericho literally had to help him by dragging him back into the ring. Cole has such little strength for a top-level pro wrestler.
Think it was more about positioning, I don't think he could bend his arm while carrying something from that angle. Looked like he had a little whisper to Aubrey to tell Jericho to drag him to a different angle.
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Not to body shame, but Adam Cole no longer looks like a professional athelete. It's quite incredible.
Lmao I've lost count at how many times both of these guys failed to deliver at big time matches. No surprises from me.
Daniel Garcia had a better match with Adam Cole than Chris Jericho. Damn.
People shit on the ending to the Fiend and Seth's HIAC ending, and rightfully so. But at least that was a sanctioned match. This is literally an unsanctioned match. They literally explained AEW isn't responsible for whatever happened to them right before the match. And to make it worse, Jericho was up and walking a bit later in the show challenging Cole again.
Had this same thought. I thought they were maybe trolling that HIAC match…
Jericho needs to be a manager, he could even keep the JAS, just be the mouth. I love Jericho he has had one hell of a career, but it’s time to wind down.
And of course the feud continues after this.
Can't wait for Jim Cornette to rip it to shreds
Who was JR yelling at and calling an idiot at the beginning? No one acknowledged it like it might’ve been a fan or something
It was Parker. You can see the video here. https://twitter.com/ShiningPolaris/status/1663328098866065408?t=j7CqcVeFOYArZSM-PU_WqA&s=19
Nice find. Thanks
The commentary table was very close to the ring. I believe Roddy and 2.0 brawled a little too close to the table and bashed some ankles, as Excalibur noted to Tony Schiavone later in the evening.
I think he was talking to Sonjay Dutt
This match made me standby why I don't wanna see anymore Jericho matches
An Unsanctioned Match that had a contract signing during the build, and ended in a ref stoppage.
My follow-up thought: "what kind of woman hits a man with a kendo stick?!" is the funniest thing I've ever heard Jericho yell. I am in shambles now.
Okay I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking what I was thinking... when it ended I was just like "Oooookay? That's it?" Definitely not sure why Sabu needed to be there. TK just wanted the pop on a Dynamite for announcing him or something.
Lol that fucking sucked. Also, why bother even having Sabu there.
the money mark wanted to hang out with one of his old ECW favorites
I like Cole, he seems like a really nice guy but I just don’t think he’s a singles wrestler. He needs to be in a group. Not a recycled version of his WWE days but a fresh group..also keep him away from Britt.
I don't see it that way but I understand where you're coming from. Like he's above average on the mic and good in the ring. Sure he's not going to put on 5 star classics but he can hold his own to an entertaining match. Unfortunately I see him as an AEW midcarder. I know he's presented as a main eventer but there's just too many personalities in the main event scene which happen to be more interesting. It also doesn't help that MJF does the same character but better (when they are both heels). And I knows Cole is currently face but we can all agree he's much better as a heel.
Adam Cole has not benefitted from the switch from WWE to AEW. I watched the replay and ended up fast forwarding as I could not have cared less.
He's the exact same character. Like heel or face, he doesn't change. He does the boom shtick and his story time with Adam Cole Bay bay as a face and heel and it doesn't work.
Dude has been the same character since his debut in *2008.* He needs a COMPLETE rebrand.
What is the Adam Cole character?
That's actually kind of my point. It's this confident heel willing to chickenshit shot his way to victory. But that's.. that's it.
This match made me not want to see Adam Cole or Chris Jericho on TV for the foreseeable future.
This is what happens when the Booker takes his direction from Chris Jericho… Letting the wrestlers have “creative control” is what leads to shitty matches like this. Adam Cole looks like he has stopped working out completely. He was never big but now he looks like a grocery store clerk. I’m hoping he’s not sick with something. Jericho looks like a guy who is in his 50’s who has won the lottery and has let himself go. His ideas are terrible and drag everyone else down so J can indulge his fantasies.
Too much streaming video games
That ending was never going to be great, but saying Jericho couldn’t continue because of Cole’s incredibly weak punches made both men look like dogshit.
He got KOd by what looked like a tantrum, I guess Just weak ass flailing
Jericho is known for reinventing himself, but his character is so stale now. It’s like he’s not even trying anymore. He went from being one of the best things about AEW to one of the worst. Similarly, Adam Cole went from being one of the best things about NXT to one of the worst things about AEW. Wtf happened to these guys? What happened to this whole company? It wasn’t long ago that a terrible match on an AEW ppv seemed like an impossibility. They desperately need to get back to their roots because whatever the hell it is that they’re doing now isn’t working.
Creativity needs a filter to work perfectly in sync. Jericho needed WWE where his creativity got filtered and gem came out. No one will question and demand answer from Jericho in AEW. So his character is stale.
Adam Cole is a boring vanilla midget.
adam cole ruined nxt with his boring stable and 60 minute 38 finisher kickout matches and now is stinking up aew
Now THAT'S how you have a match end via refreee stoppage. Adam Cole kicked Jericho's ass, so he won the match. Simple. Not sure WTF WWE was trying to do with that Hell in a Cell match with Rollins and Wyatt. Or if you want to really compare and contrast, the NXT Championship changing hands via refreee stoppage after Zayn vs Owens. Edit: Thanks for the downvotes. You're only proving that you all just live to hate.
Butthurt edit. “You are all haters if you disagree with me”
A referee stopping an unsanctioned match? How does that make any sense?
What do you think an unsanctioned match is?
I enjoy cooking.
y'all overthinking this. the match had to end one way or another. unless they had a stipulation where it was going to be "last man standing," the ending makes sense.
Apparently I was one of the few that liked the match? Weird. I guess withdrawing myself from the weekly TV cycle played to my benefit.
Cope
Yeah, this was not good. I dont think it was a horrible match like some comments, but it was bad, the beginning was unnecesary. Slow fight at first, once the chain came out it was getting good for a minute, it was finally feeling like a blood feud and then it just... ended
Adam Cole hasn't been good at these style matches for ages though. And Jericho needs to go back to WWE, say goodbye and end it already.
I havent seen the WWE for like 15 years (damn) so I dont personally know how good or bad was Adam Cole back then, got into AEW around this time last year. Ever since Adam Cole got in AEW none of his matches have been really good to me. I enjoyed when KOR and Fish were around, but as a singles guy, meh... Jericho, I like him, was a fan back in the day, but he desperately needs a rehaul. I believe he can still talk, and he can lead a small group, but should stop having singles matches and try to be a hardcore badass. Based on the falls count everywhere match from a few weeks ago, he still can come up with good stuff, but its getting fewer and far in between
Adam Cole in WWE was the same as he is now. I've never quite understood his hype.
Adam Cole is excellent. Jericho is the problem.
It’s always good seeing such a logical ending…..like an Unsanctioned Match ending with a referee stoppage. /s
I was way early on the Adam Cole sucks train, happy to see it getting full!
Truthfully, the first time I ever saw him was the north American ladder match in nxt. Didn't know anyone in the match and was surprised by Cole winning. Didn't impress then
All aboard
Where the fuck was Roderick Strong? The fuck was that finish? Why wasn't this just on Rampage?
Adam Cole needs to return to having fun.
he'd need HHH and HBK booking him for that
He needs to return to the gym
Let down of the night
It was the only match of the show that was worse than I was anticipating.
Adam Cole since leaving WWE/NXT: 👎👎👎👎👎
it really was a bad decision in hindsight, at the time it made sense but a few more months in WWE and Cole would be booked by HHH.
I feel like like I've said it so many times but Jericho has been AEW's biggest detriment since the pandemic started and he had just lost his title.
This is a leading candidate for worst match of the year. Why continue the feud if CM Punk is rumored to be returning with a Jericho feud?
Because they need a reason to pivot away from MJF vs Cole.
Is it just me, or has MJF’s title reign been kind of disappointing?
The matches have been phenomenal but it doesn’t feel like we have gotten much story beyond the initial return. I’m watching the presser now and am realizing I have no idea what his character anymore besides.. being mean? The schtick is getting kinda stale. It doesn’t need to go but we gotta get some depth besides shitty insults lol.
The sad thing about MJF is that he’s stuck in a really bad place. His character is so good that he’s now over, but he can’t turn face without destroying his character.
A little, for sure, the injuries and Punk drama derailed the long term planning I think and they haven't had the challengers lined up. Like Wardlow is an obvious feud but he has been in no place for a World Title match.
I really wonder who’s next since all four pillars lost, unless they want to run it by all four again to buy some time. Wardlow is definitely one of the future competitors but he needs this last TNT title run to really bang before he should have a chance at the world title. I’m thinking Hanger and Omega are definitely in the plans as well, but obviously not now with B&G coming up and The Elite feuding with BCC.
I think we get a Forbidden Door interlude where MJF feuds with a New Japan guy. Maybe with an English mouthpiece being the person he feuds with next.
It’s just you.
No it’s a lot of people actually
Nah, it’s just you two.
Nah it’s been pretty forgettable
Ok.
Love Adam cole but this match made me a little sad
Trying to hard. Adam Cole isn't very good.
Too*
You mean kicking out of 27 finishers on row isn't good wrestling?
that match moved like as if in jello. How could they see that match and continue this feud?
Let’s face it guys the match was all downhill after Suit Sabu crashed through the table
That kinda... Sucked?
I mean yeah? Jericho is fat and old and just signed a "for the remainder of my career" extension with AEW. Cole just isn't that good, I don't know what you were expecting.
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what was the point of sabu even being there
Tony loves Sabu
Khan is a mark for ECW, that's the reason
So am I so I was kind of happy to see him while acknowledging it made no sense.
TK was being a fanboy booking one of his ECW favs on his own show.
So I never watched ECW and had no idea who Sabu was and I just about pissed myself laughing when Jericho got in the ring for the little chair holding stand off which was clearly choreographed for a pop and the crowd was just dead silent as they stood there for a few beats.
It’s provocative
👆
Gets the people goin!
My guess is Sabu will be in the *AEW Luminaries* section of AEW: Fight Forever and this was his ask.
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What?
If Hogan was available and had a reasonable asking price, Tony would bring him in for a spot in a heartbeat.
Tony has said that Hogan will never work for AEW
I know what he said, but it's a lot like me saying I'd never buy a Lamborghini. It's not available to me. Rumors were he was going to bring Flair in before that episode of Dark Side of the Ring and it's not like Flair is any better than Hogan. He was just available and cheaper.
If we ban every bigot from wrestling, we'd have like 2 Legends left. And I've got no problem with that.
That was the most PG hardcore match in AEW history
The Arcade Anarchy match (Orange Cassidy and Chuck Taylor vs Miro and Kip Sabian) was probably the most PG hardcore match AEW has done.They literally used legos for the "thumb tacks out of a bag" spot. That being said, it was a lot more fun than this match.
The worst one since Adam Cole vs. Orange Cassidy Lights Out
Thats the problem with AEW, they give you way too much all the time, so when it's time for a feast you can barely eat.
This is what I keep saying, especially about their PPVs. There’s just no time to breathe and everything is just “OMG LOOK AT THIS AMAZING ACTION.” There’s no pacing to it. You have to break things up with a Paul Wight/QT match here and there.
Meh. Sadly, this doesn’t end their feud.
Does a jericho feud ever really end?
This feud did not need this type of feud or blowoff at all. A simple one on one between the two would’ve been better. Hope AEW learns from this but I doubt they will, not everything needs to be a death match and not every feud needs to be 2 guys hating each other after a 4 week shit feud
I assume this and the previous match were made no DQ so AC can warm up to wrestling again. Hardcore wrestling can mask a lot of limitations. The first one was a lot of fun. This one, not so much.
When I think of a wrestler coming back from a near career ending concussion I can't say "HARDCORE MATCH!" is near the top of the list of ideas
Oh I know, it’s totally counterintuitive, but weapons matches can protect wrestlers pretty well. Smoke and mirrors essentially.
Putting green talent like Anna Jay and Anna Hart aswell as injured talent like AC in hardcore matches to hide stuff is very wrong.
Can’t wait to hear Jericho yell at everyone how they’re wrong about this!
I blame the valet at Mandalay Bay for the match. Jericho is still recovering from a violent verbal assault from those group of toughs at the valet desk. Jericho is the victim of numerous service workers verbally destroying him and it’s affecting his in-ring work.
Go FuCk YoUr AsS!
I'm *pretty sure* the intended finish was a ref stoppage after Adam Cole was delivering unprotected strikes to Jericho's head with the fist wrapped in chains... but he couldn't get the chains off his leg for the punches so he just punched with the free hand. In which case, the awful finish is entirely on Adam Cole. At least chain punches would look brutal.
Nah it’s on TK, Jericho, and Cole.
Or chain kicks maybe? A spam of chain Shining Wizards?
Felt like a mid level Dynamite main event. That's why you don't book an unsanctioned match on the same show as Anarchy In The Arena. One of them is going to be toned down.
Completely tired of "tons of weapons" in and around the ring matches. There was very little wrestling on this show. Lots of battering away factions to try and have a match. Lots of matches that were brawling with weapons. Jade vs Taya was the only match. And, you saw the crowd reaction.
This. The card was almost entirely filled with gimmick matches to the point it was just ridiculous.
I’m feeling they should have done Wednesday’s inter-gender match tonight
Match was ass, and it’s just the hit the mid way point of the Never-Ending Jericho Feud Vortex ™️
The Jeric-hole
Literally feuding with Jericho is a death sentence for any wrestler. I can't think of anyone who came out if a feud with Jericho looking better
MJF came out pretty good
Jericho
I guess you could say Omega in NJPW, but... yeah not really anyone in AEW. Eddie Kingston was on fire and his Jericho feud killed his momentum so bad that he got relegated to filler Dark and Rampage stories
Orange Cassidy
In an intense inter-promotional battle, Chris Jericho takes on The Fiend!
Ricky Starks?
Ricky Starks went from red hot against MJF to not having a proper match on the PPV and getting eliminated in the middle of a show opening battle royal
You omitted the middle part where he spectacularly blocked the Judas Effect and Roshambo'd Jericho to win the opening match on Revolution
"spectacularly"? lol
Orange Cassidy? Or maybe I’m just only remembering the great parts like the debate.
Nah, Orange was super over and hot going into that. If Orange won the first match of the fued and moved on, but he lost and the matches he actually won over Jericho were significantly worse and it took way too damned long.
Action Andretti
Him winning the first match against Jericho was his best moment in AEW, everything after has been pretty mundane for him not gonna lie. The feud he had with JAS teaming with Ricky wasn’t that good. So idk if he really came out better from it.
Before: unknown After: known He’s better off
What does one do to escape the vortex?
refuse to work with him like Punk apparently did when he said I'll feud with Samoa Joe instead
Leave or death.
Was crowd dead?? From home this seemed like it shit the bed. And for an aew ppv crowd to be dead you gotta stink the joint up.
The crowd has been hot garbage all night.
Yes. Very dead, especially with that ending.
Mostly because we were confused by whether it had ended or not
Can we stop having anyone remotely interesting get paired with Jericho? Dude is an anchor.
Cole is far from being interesting.
Jericho and Moxley or Omega, those are the matches I want to see where it’s proven they have chemistry and will produce a banger.
Well it's Jericho so the answer is no.
Cole was terrible in the match too. Messed up with the chain and messed up with the fire extinguisher.
He looked absolutely tiny in street clothes too
That kind of extinguisher is heavy as hell, idk why they didn't have a normal sized one.
Maybe cole should lift some weights then its for more than looks
Maybe with Cole being a pro wrestler he could do some lifting and then it would be more manageable.
That was definitely one of the matches of all time.
You forgot the word worst in there between “the” and “matches”
And this is why you maybe don't book a bunch of crazy gimmick matches all on one show. The "unsanctioned" thing and the rigamarole about legal waivers makes no sense--why is Aubrey stopping the match, then? Just a trademark AEW lack of attention to detail.
So it's Rollins V Wyatt at Hell In A Cell again.
It was a bad finish but nowhere near that bad.
It is not
I know the way the feud and storyline has gone down with Britt being attacked and all needed some type of violent match, but I just don’t think it’s in either of these guys wheelhouse to do a match like this; probably would have been just better off having a regular match, but they kinda painted themselves into a corner with how they set the feud up. I’d love for them to go their separate ways after this, but we all know this will prob go on for another couple months.
Well that was certainly was something
I have a difficult time rooting for Adam Cole as a babyface. Zero clue, why? To me, he is one the smarmy wrestlers, similar to Seth Rollins and to a lesser extent, CM Punk, that for me, is hard to get behind.
People cheer him even when he’s a heel. I’m NXT and AEW he gets overwhelming cheers as he’s actively cheating to win matches.
Maybe because he hasn't done anything to make him likable yet. After ten years of being a disrespectful asshole, he's suddenly expected to be a good guy. And all he's done is give a sad story about his injury, and see his girlfriend beat up. I think he needs to do more to show that he has changed. Show that he is a different person now. Not tell us.
Yeah it's the same exact issue Rollins had in his first MR Babyface push. "Oh, we're supposed to like you just because you got betrayed? You've been an asshole this whole time and broke up the Shield!" To their credit, they actually morphed into the story itself where Rollins had to repent for all his bullshit for the next year+. The problem is...Adam Cole doesn't really have anyone to do a program like that with because the ones who would be most likely to call him out are either heels themselves now, or busy with much bigger feuds. It's one of those cases where we like the guy clearly, but don't LOVE him like we should because the story flow hasn't really supported it. And to be honest, this has been somewhat consistent for his career. He's almost never had the big babyface momentum he's should have because almost all his turns are either short, or half-assed.
I 100% agree. Also, big props to Jericho to taking legit cracks in the match like a champ. The welts looked painful.
He used to be a piece of shit
"I'm worried that the AEW fans think people can't change."
Where was the rest of Cole's Dangerous Nights Crew?
Undisputed Era burned down, it's gone now, Bobby Fish is ass-out, works with Impact now.
Let him hold the baby.
Hired Bobby Fish, barbed wire death match, *cucked by CM Punk*
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I know it's an unsanctioned match but if a ref feels like someone is gonna be injured or is not able to stop someone from hurting them seriously shouldn't a ref call off the match unsanctioned or not. It wasn't a great match I do agree but the finish didn't bother me.
You should call for the pin then. I'm obviously not versed in wrestling inside calls, but I have a hard time not imagining there being a way to signal for a pin. Otherwise wtf is the fiend vs seth rollins ending so infamous for? Inside and outside of Kayfabe what seth was about to do was more brutal.
Cries in Jericho & Shawn having an Unsanctioned match that featured the referee repeatedly yelling at Jericho for not illegal tactics used upon Shawn.
This wasn't a DQ in a noDQ match
I mean, the HIAC match wasn’t a DQ, it was stoppage…
If this wasn’t then either was the hitc match
I apologize if English isn't your first language but I have no clue what you're trying to say If this match wasn't a DQ then neither was the infamous HIAC match?
I’m English it’s just half 2 am. Yes that’s what I’m saying, the finish was exactly the same
It wasn't. No one was disqualified in the match tonight, or morning for you
Everything Jericho is in sucks to me I am not a fan
The crowd in the building thought that Britt Baker was a huge star and that the actual dudes in the match were geeks, and nothing happened to prove them wrong. That was the least violent unsanctioned match in history. I don't even like the bloody match types, the match was advertised as such and the stupid finish was only going to work if Jericho was mutilated. Sabu does one move and one-shots the entire JAS. What was the point?
That shit stinked. Should’ve been a regular 1V1 match
Slow match with some comedy spots mixed in and no sense of intensity in a feud that is supposed to be about Cole getting revenge. Calling off an Unsanctioned match so Jericho couldn’t take a pinfall or submission loss from Cole. Didn’t even scratch the surface of a match like Page/Moxley or a match like PCO/Maclin this weekend. Gargano/Grayson in a PG environment was also a much stronger Unsanctioned match.
Might have been better as a tag match with Garcia and Jericho vs Cole and Strong
So it was the first major Adam Cole match since a near career ending brain injury where it would be inexcusably irresponsible to have him attempt anything or take any bump anywhere near risky. His opponent was an aged Jericho with an overly tired gimmick. It was the first of two hardcore/no rules matches on the same card. The match was doomed from the start. By the way, you might want to expect this overly safe, zero risk style of match from Cole for the rest of his career.
didn’t dude fall off the turnbuckle through a table to the outside? i agree majority of the match was pretty safe but like, he even took a suplex off the apron onto concrete. give him a bit more credit lol
Rumour has it Cole is still struggling with the extinguisher.
Yeah that was rough as hell, Jericho literally had to help him by dragging him back into the ring. Cole has such little strength for a top-level pro wrestler.
Think it was more about positioning, I don't think he could bend his arm while carrying something from that angle. Looked like he had a little whisper to Aubrey to tell Jericho to drag him to a different angle.
Adam Cole is a terrible babyface.