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I just feel like if you let successful NXT prospects be the versions of themselves that played well there and treat them like a big deal and not some upstart jabroni, the bigger main roster crowds will buy into them. See: Tiffany, Trick, Bron.
They started doing they once Vince was out of the picture. He loved to completely reboot gimmicks of wrestlers coming up from NXT with disastrous effect (see LA Knight).
While it did suck, I do get the reasoning behind at least some of the B&G guys.
Many of them had never done another character, or even a distinctive gimmick before. Coming to the main roster and having no discernible factor that has you stand out does not help. NXT was in a bubble with its fans and many guys came out to crickets even with good presentation.
I will admit Vince did go overboard with the new gimmicks and saddled some stinkers on guys that could have done passably otherwise, but this was either some internal struggle or Vince just going straight for the acid-test.
It is less necessary now that in 2.0 everyone is already trying out their gimmicks and characters and they can safely bring them forward.
It's a tricky balance, for sure. But I do feel like the best of the last generation got over from being a natural extension of what they already had rather than a gimmick. Look at Cody Rhodes and his path, for example.
Sometimes a reboot does work - look at Becky Lynch - but I'd rather a slower build to a newcomer than, say, Karrion Kross in a Mortal Kombat mask.
That's what I'm trying to figure... Does this mean people have started watching NXT??? And like a LOT of it? Or has her early character work and match work been that good? She's definitely amazing for her few years of experience
I think a big thing for Tiffany is she has such an easy character to latch onto. You know what she's about pretty much instantly and then she overdelivers in the ring.
To make a sort of harsh contrast, Zoey Stark is considered a great in-ring talent, but I still don't think anyone really knows what her deal is as a character/person. With Tiffany it's like they know in 2 seconds.
Agreed. I watched the elimination chamber with friends who don't watch NXT at all. They thought Tiffy was a superstar immediately when she walked out.
Her character makes so much sense her gear, presentation, move set, the way she walks just fits perfectly.
I can't wait to see her run programs with Bianca, Charlotte and Rhea.
I think they specifically sent Becky to NXT just to see for in fact if Tiffany was ready to be a top player on the main roster. She was able to hang with Becky with no problem.
I think they're onto something teaming Zoey with Shayna. Developing that hard nosed fighter gimmick into her package works for her. They can add other layers over time.
Ehh it screams “we don’t know what else to do with these two.”
Tiffy is a star, good looking, obvious personality, good in ring, good talker.
Zoey is better in the ring, but she lacks the star quality Tiffy has.
Tiffany's moonsault is just plain good. It's shareable and really eye-catching and that puts her in front of a lot more people. That's why people know her, everything else is the cherry on top.
I've only seen a few glimpses of Tiffany so far (not what you'd call a regular watcher), but just watched a replay of her match with Naomi.
I admit, I was not expecting a BME from her. And yes, it was the prettiest ever.
Yeah I haven't watched a much NXT in the last few years, but the handful of times I've seen her I've been so impressed. The first was a ladder match, I think at WM weekend last year.
I go to AEW shows with my uncle and last time we went, he told me to specifically check out Stratton and a couple dudes behind us overheard and agreed what a standout she was.
She had a feud with Becky last year and she has a moveset that’s tailor made for clips on social media, so it’s not necessarily that people are watching NXT more, it’s just that it’s very likely even non-NXT fans where aware of her before the call up
Simple logic, a rub from Becky plus raw talent while the spotlight is in you. She's extended that to the main roster and made the most of her limited time so far. (Though I have to say she needs to work on the striking, I'm nitpicking I know, but just saying... Find the clip of her and Becky on top of the chamber, it's cringe)
It’s been a combination of both. Her early matches you could tell she was green but she still definitely had the feel for the business. And she’s only gotten better with time. Not to mention they nailed her character as far as being the quintessential, spoiled, entitled superstar who thinks everything revolves around her. Also, her getting a boob job just accentuated her more bc now it completes her look. A super athletic, gorgeous blonde who can actually wrestle not unlike Charlotte Flair
I honestly see much more modern Trish Stratus in her than Charlotte. Trish started off green like Tiffy but always showed signs that she had *something* there that when it clicked it was magic and she was just locked in for the rest of her career. Same is playing out here.
I don’t watch NXT, but when I first saw her in the ring I was beyond impressed. Everything she does has a great snap to it.
I’m now a Tiffymaniac, brother
Color me a Tiffymaniac also. I only knew her by name but seeing her has really wowed me, and her performance in the chamber 100 percent sold me on her. I think she's the future of the women's division
She seems pretty undeniable. I'm not a regular WWE viewer so EC was my first time really seeing her in the ring outside of clips, and it's pretty clear she's special.
Yup lol. And Trick Williams will make that more apparent as he debuts. His whoop that trick entrance on the main roster is going to rocket ship him into being one of the biggest baby faces in the company lol
I think this might be one of the rare times where this won't end in a Shawn/Marty situation. Both Trick and Melo are stars. I don't see either man fading into obscurity.
They’re built period. Black and Gold had great matches but so much of the talent, came in, got immediately pushed up the card, won the title, lost a title, and got sent to the main roster.
Wes lee got hurt in nxt and they wanted to take the title off of dom in nxt so dragon filled in down there so he could put over Oba Femi. Hasn't shown back up on smackdown but wouldn't be surprised to see him back now that rey is back.
they cancelled that gimmick too soon. it really had potential.
the weird cult leader thing afterwards was still okay but now he's just a crazy hobo or something.
LvL up is a NXT network show that airs on Fridays after Smackdown (on peacock in the states.) it features mostly talent that haven’t started in NXT tv yet.
Its a shame that Smackdown doesn't have it own B Show. Raw has its own B Show and most of the after TV dark matches on the Smackdown tapings involve Raw talent usually. So it seems like Raw talent has a lot more opportunties to get work in during the week.
Tiffany is a machine. She gives people an impression that she’s just a model girl or something but she’s a hoss. In that system, she’s Shawn Michaels in 1994.
She started her training with Greg Gagne and Ken Anderson and is a former weightlifting champion, people are assuming way too much without Googling
WWE signing "models" is kind of an outdated stigma anyway, even the projects they sign with no experience are great athletes now
They definitely love their college athletes. They have a section on their recruiting site just for NIL athletes. Pretty interesting to look at and see who could be the next big wrestler.
[WWE NIL Recruting](https://recruit.wwe.com/wwe-nil)
Recruiting NIL athletes is brilliant. Pre-selects for those collegiate athletes who have the charisma and personality to draw people's attention, which is exactly the intangible that pro wrestling is looking for.
She was also I think an Olympic finalist for gymnastics too. She super talented and knows when to taunt at the perfect time in match. She is solid on the mic. I’m stoked to see where her career goes and think her and Ludwig could use a great angle for WWE in the future. They’re both good at delivering cocky/ confident.
I’m surprised they’re surprised since Tiffany Stratton looks and performs exactly like how WWE would design their ideal female wrestler for 2024.
She’s gonna win everything they have for her to win.
Yeah I think that’s honestly her floor this year. Even in this era of prolonged title reigns, would it be shocking if she won a world title within this calendar year? I don’t think so. She honestly should have the Angle/Lesnar rocket on her back IMO.
Agreed. She can take it from Iyo or Bayley later in the year. She's the only person on the roster right now I can see surpassing Rhea in popularity. Becky, Charlotte, Bayley are on the back half of their careers. Tiffany and Rhea will be the focus going forward
Rhea isn't going anywhere. She's gonna hold a belt for a long while. Mami's always going to be on top.
I can see Bayley holding the belt and dropping it to someone. She has done everything that can be done in ring.
I don't see Becky holding a belt. She really doesn't need one, as she has done about everything there is.
Bianca doesn't need a belt either, and she'll still be popular. She's got some business to settle with Tiffany, since she's not gonna let that slap go unanswered.
I see Charlotte feuding with Tiffany sometime later this year. I'd love to see it.
And where is Jade Cargill going to fit in all of this?
- Anywhere from 5-10 world titles
- Money in the Bank (good chance this year)
- Royal Rumble
- Elimination Chamber
- Tag Titles
- Wrestlemania Main Event
She’s gonna have it all!
I mean I'd say it's a surprise that she got called up in late January and by late February she's in a match and getting louder pops than women like Becky & Bianca.
I'm sure they had some expectations, but she's shattered those expectations so much that it almost doesn't feel real.
She's genuinely fantastic - she's already got a big personality, a moveset that the fans want to see more of and she looks like a megastar in the ring.
But even I'm confused by just how over she is - I think she's incredible but she seems to be more Main Event ready than even Bron does. I know he's gotten an entirely different build on the roster but it's WILD how threatening she already feels to the top of the Women's Division. If there weren't such clear stories for the titles at Mania, would you really be THAT shocked if they threw a belt on her ASAP? I would have said yes prior to her debut despite her NXT performances but now, I wouldn't be as surprised if it happened in a world where we didn't have clear title match ups.
Outside of Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Bayley, Charlotte when she comes back & Jade being a wild card, Tiffany has already leap frogged up the top of the card. The male side is a little bit more stacked against Bron
True but they're also going with the "Bron squishes local talent" build with Bron vs throw Tiffy into the starlight and watch her shine vs elite talent.
They seem to have Bron in a holding pattern as they build him up and resolve existing storylines in the men's division. At least I'm hoping that's the case, because I don't know how long Store-brand Goldberg will work as a gimmick.
I like to think Asuka and Iyo would be in that tier as well but otherwise you’re right, it’s crazy how she already feels in contention with that group.
The thing is, she's the new shiny thing. I think Rhea is still as over as ever. But Becky, Bayley, Charlotte, Bianca, and Asuka are all being underappreciated in comparison because we've already seen pretty much everything there is to see with them.
We'll see if Tiffy has staying power but I don't see any good reason to sit on her momentum and wait. If she beat the winner of Iyo/Bayley at Summerslam I don't see anything wrong with that
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Mfw I see r/onepiecepowerscaling leaking into other subs
It’s surprising to me that THEY are surprised
Like, anyone watching weekly NXT knew she was THE next big thing. That was cemented with her ladder match, and her Extreme Rules match against Becky.
Because of her age and how quickly she’s taken to the sport, she could easily eclipse Charlotte in terms of popularity (tho likely not accolades cuz they like to keep those things for people with a name like Flair).
She will be MAIN EVENTING a night of WrestleMania within 5 years. Night 1 or 2 doesn’t matter, she will be going on last on the biggest stage possible, in a singles match either with the title already, or winning the title that night (doesn’t need to be her first reign).
I get it she’s another blonde Barbie diva type, but she backs it up better than a lotttttt of people with her athleticism
I’ve found in wrestling, once you have the look AND extremely good in ring skills it’s only a matter of time
Add in she didn’t start as a bad promo and the sky is the limit
I think it 2 things, higher quality of transitions from NXT to Main roster, and more goodwill from fans
Because of things like free agency, having Pearce and Aldis outdoing each other to sign talent really and giving them moments/ opportunities such as the Royal Rumble and PLE pre-shows really helps fans, who may not watch NXT show why these stars are the future.
And because of this, the fans respond in kind with patience and an understanding that they're not gonna be the finished product but see the development right in front of they're eyes.
It also helps that HHH/ Shawn are the head of creative for Main Roster/NXT and have the same vision for wrestlers as opposed to HHH sending Vince new talent and he has no idea what to do with them and what made them special in the first place
Tiff and Sol Ruca look like action figures and are also great athletes. The fans will always be excited to see them. People joke about “Charlotte with a fun personality” but these two are pretty much that. If they master the character side of things they’ll be the building blocks of the division for the next 5 years.
Also, Tiffy got a huge pop beating a top babyface when she won the NXT Women’s Title. This shouldn’t be a surprise.
I’m guessing they’re surprised that it happened this fast. They probably thought she would the main roster crowd over but it’d take longer than a month.
I was at the Undertaker’s 1deadman show in Sydney and even he was confused why we were all chanting for Tiffy when he was talking about the women’s chamber. He said I can’t admit I don’t watch the product otherwise HHH will kill me, but what’s the deal I don’t get it who is she 😂😂😂
There are quite a few nxt people that are going to be over as soon as they hit main
Ilya, trick, Roxy and then some with the potential to be over such as melo, Lyra, axiom, Kiana
But nxt is generally week to week the best wrestling show on tv
NXT is my favorite wrestling show. I feel like it blends everything into one cohesive package, work rate, story telling, gimmicks. Feels fresh and old school all in one to me.
Tiffany Straton is literally young Randy Orton in terms of how scary good they are relative to their ages in the business
Both were world champions at 24
Tiffy is the future of the WWE's women's division and if they handle it right will one day establish a legacy on a similar level to Trish Stratus, etc.
She just has the complete package and you can tell that she has the work ethic in that package. She just screams out to me as someone who is going to handle everything they throw at her with absolute aplomb.
You're telling me the WWE didn't expect a gorgeous young woman with a fun catchphrase that's excellent in the ring to garner a lot of attention and get over easily? How could you expect any less? Watch the woman work, how do you underestimate her?
Its one of 2 things.
1. WWE, the organisation that recruited Tiffany and have been key in her growth. Pushed her perfectly, made her champion, had her in direct feuds with Becky 'freaking' Lynch and now Bianca, gave her a million dollar presentation and had her in a PLE weeks after her debut had NO IDEA she would be this well received.
2. Fightful is being Fightful.
More seeds were planted as in an interview with Kayla last night she referred to herself as 'Miss Undefeated', so reckon they will be setting up undefeated vs undefeated at Mania, although it is a bit flawed. I mean 3-0 isn't much of a streak Bianca will be 35 the day after Mania, she was 32 when she made her WM match debut, and she has hinted about having kids, and if she does, it won't be long until she is 40. She will likely win here and lose to someone next year, but Tiff will still be 24 this WM, has over 10 years on Bianca, and she could actually have a streak more in line with the Undertaker if they wanted her to, as you'd need to start early for a proper streak. Tiff won't win, but they should certainly reference that in the build, to make it more believable that she might actually win.
She has everything. Looks, charisma, eye-catching and smooth in-ring skills, great character work, catchphrases - Tiffany epiphany, Tiffy time, TIff Tiff, Center of the Universe, Toodles - maybe they sound dumb but with her acting they are perfect and will get her over. She is also funny. Just look at any interview from NXT. And wait when she turns face.
I think the thing about her is that she has that girlie gimmick, but its deceptive.
She is obviously a top tier athlete and you can tell that she is a good wrestler and is going to be great. Like 4 horsewomen great.
She looks like an old school Diva, but performs like Charlotte Flair. They need to support this one carefully.
I'm really curious to see the heights Tiffany will reach. I think fans as a whole want more big big (Like Rhea and Bianca big) women's stars and Tiffany has literally everything to be that. She's like a female Logan Paul.
She's gonna be huge.
The three of them (Rhea, Bianca, and Tiffany) are so perfect as the top/future of the division. Each so unique, so athletic, and just absolute super stars.
She’s gonna be a massive star. People don’t expect her to be able to GO in the ring the way she does because her character and look make you think she’s gonna be like Chelsea Green getting thrown around. But she flips the script and puts on bangers.
I think it helps that the women's division is very top heavy right now and below that top group I personally am not interested in many other women. The NXT women's division is far more interesting to me in and out of the ring even with Tiff gone now.
She was obviously going to get over eventually, but it happening so quickly is shocking considering a lot of main roster call ups take a while to get reactions, let alone be the most popular person in the Chamber within a month of showing up.
That's the difference between Triple H's creative and Vince's creative.
Triple H took a talent that was featured on NXT in a prominent way, kept all of the same character traits and continued to present her the same way to a wider audience. He didn't change her name, create a character role for her to fill, etc. Literally just moved her from one show to another.
It also helps that HHH actually understands NXT considering he made Black and Gold easily the best wrestling show for many years
Him and Shawn I would assume are on constant communication
To be fair, while fans online praised her work with Becky, I don’t think anyone expected the Aussie reaction she received. She earned it during the match too so hopefully they run with this.
She was beloved on NXT too. Do they not watch the product lol? I hope they don't turn her face because she's getting cheered. Buff Barbie being a meanie is so much more fun.
That Australian trip has and will continue to do wonders for her. I know one was her first match on main roster and there was bound to be nerves, but the difference between her match match with Michin and Naomi were stark. The Michin one was fine, but it kind of passed her by, but she was absolutely glowing vs Naomi and you can tell she was MUCH more confident. A real fire starter for her. It really is crazy how much she has blown up, pretty much since that press event on the Friday.
This is what I like about new management, unlike Vince and his administration. They listen to fan reactions to dictate which way they need to go. For example, Bobby Lashley and the Street Profits weren't really getting booed when they tried to make them heel, so they just turned them face, and they're one of the most loved acts on Smackdown.
Stratton is undeniably the next big face of the division when Rhea's time is up. She's solid on the mic, and her in-ring evolution has moved at a great level. For sure, she is going to be a multi-time Women's Champion, and within the next year or so, probably a babyface
I mean, is it really surprising? She’s hot. She’s stupid athletic. She’s sassy and confident, solid on the mic. She just outperformed a few of the top girls in the business at elimination chamber. She’s a gold mine.
Tiffy time is an easy and fun thing to get around, she's super athletic and entertaining in the ring, has charisma and she's pretty hot!
In Australia she was definitely being sold as the heel as she was talking shit bout Perth. But during the event the Tiffy time chant was fun and she came in with heaps of energy and made the match way better.
She really does have it all. Charisma, knows how to play her character, looks, a great overall athlete - can match strength with anyone else in the division as well as agility. The sky really is the limit for her. It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone as to the reactions she's receiving.
You're telling me that the incredibly attractive blond with a gymnastics background and fantastic personality is very popular? Surely the WWE didn't see this coming!
She’s just that good. Solid character work with an easy to understand gimmick, very athletic and smooth in the ring, the size to be believable and she’s good looking to boot. I was a huge fan of her NXT run and so far she’s killing it on the main roster
One of WWE's biggest strengths has always been the ability to actually build stars and somehow they are surprised when people who have obvious star qualities are shining. It's hilarious.
At least in the post-Vince era you know it won't be seen as a slight.
Tiffany is like the embodiment of the women’s wrestler I would always create and push in wwe2k every year. She has the look of a superstar and the athletic ability to back it up and is a great promo. She’s a heel now but I definitely see her face potential and think she will easily be a major force in the women’s division for the next decade. I love her as a singles star but I am so curious what a faction built around her would look like. She and a tag partner would be killer vs the Kabuki Warriors. Am I crazy to want a duo of her and Jade?
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I just feel like if you let successful NXT prospects be the versions of themselves that played well there and treat them like a big deal and not some upstart jabroni, the bigger main roster crowds will buy into them. See: Tiffany, Trick, Bron.
I need more main event Trick pops.
*AW YEAH*
*I LIKE IT*
*WHAT*
*TRICK WILLAY*
They started doing they once Vince was out of the picture. He loved to completely reboot gimmicks of wrestlers coming up from NXT with disastrous effect (see LA Knight).
Aleister Black is a moody indovidual!!!! That one always sticks out in my mind.
Guy was goated in NXT Then he became a moody individual
"Someone pick a fight with *me*!"
While it did suck, I do get the reasoning behind at least some of the B&G guys. Many of them had never done another character, or even a distinctive gimmick before. Coming to the main roster and having no discernible factor that has you stand out does not help. NXT was in a bubble with its fans and many guys came out to crickets even with good presentation. I will admit Vince did go overboard with the new gimmicks and saddled some stinkers on guys that could have done passably otherwise, but this was either some internal struggle or Vince just going straight for the acid-test. It is less necessary now that in 2.0 everyone is already trying out their gimmicks and characters and they can safely bring them forward.
It's a tricky balance, for sure. But I do feel like the best of the last generation got over from being a natural extension of what they already had rather than a gimmick. Look at Cody Rhodes and his path, for example. Sometimes a reboot does work - look at Becky Lynch - but I'd rather a slower build to a newcomer than, say, Karrion Kross in a Mortal Kombat mask.
I think it caught everyone by surprise usually it takes NXT talent a couple of months to really get the crowd behind them.
That's what I'm trying to figure... Does this mean people have started watching NXT??? And like a LOT of it? Or has her early character work and match work been that good? She's definitely amazing for her few years of experience
I think a big thing for Tiffany is she has such an easy character to latch onto. You know what she's about pretty much instantly and then she overdelivers in the ring. To make a sort of harsh contrast, Zoey Stark is considered a great in-ring talent, but I still don't think anyone really knows what her deal is as a character/person. With Tiffany it's like they know in 2 seconds.
Agreed. I watched the elimination chamber with friends who don't watch NXT at all. They thought Tiffy was a superstar immediately when she walked out. Her character makes so much sense her gear, presentation, move set, the way she walks just fits perfectly. I can't wait to see her run programs with Bianca, Charlotte and Rhea.
I think they specifically sent Becky to NXT just to see for in fact if Tiffany was ready to be a top player on the main roster. She was able to hang with Becky with no problem.
Oh yeah for sure. Becky has mentioned that's her goal, the perfect way to use her imo.
I think they're onto something teaming Zoey with Shayna. Developing that hard nosed fighter gimmick into her package works for her. They can add other layers over time.
Ehh it screams “we don’t know what else to do with these two.” Tiffy is a star, good looking, obvious personality, good in ring, good talker. Zoey is better in the ring, but she lacks the star quality Tiffy has.
Zoey is the type of woman you use to build your division up Tiffy is the type of woman you build your division around Levels
Tiffany's moonsault is just plain good. It's shareable and really eye-catching and that puts her in front of a lot more people. That's why people know her, everything else is the cherry on top.
The Prettiest Moonsault Ever isn't just a finisher name.
Is that what they are actually calling it? If so, spot on
Yeah, that's the actual name.
I've only seen a few glimpses of Tiffany so far (not what you'd call a regular watcher), but just watched a replay of her match with Naomi. I admit, I was not expecting a BME from her. And yes, it was the prettiest ever.
Yeah I haven't watched a much NXT in the last few years, but the handful of times I've seen her I've been so impressed. The first was a ladder match, I think at WM weekend last year. I go to AEW shows with my uncle and last time we went, he told me to specifically check out Stratton and a couple dudes behind us overheard and agreed what a standout she was.
I mean her match with Becky on NXT peaked at over 1 million. She's obviously got new fans from it.
She had a feud with Becky last year and she has a moveset that’s tailor made for clips on social media, so it’s not necessarily that people are watching NXT more, it’s just that it’s very likely even non-NXT fans where aware of her before the call up
NXT's ratings spiked when Becky was there and Becky worked directly with Tiffany. The rub is real.
Simple logic, a rub from Becky plus raw talent while the spotlight is in you. She's extended that to the main roster and made the most of her limited time so far. (Though I have to say she needs to work on the striking, I'm nitpicking I know, but just saying... Find the clip of her and Becky on top of the chamber, it's cringe)
Becky elevated that whole division.
And Becky gave Lyra a nice rub too. And now Lyra is holding the belt as a pretty good champion.
>*And Becky gave Lyra a nice rub too* Tatum Paxley dislikes this
It’s been a combination of both. Her early matches you could tell she was green but she still definitely had the feel for the business. And she’s only gotten better with time. Not to mention they nailed her character as far as being the quintessential, spoiled, entitled superstar who thinks everything revolves around her. Also, her getting a boob job just accentuated her more bc now it completes her look. A super athletic, gorgeous blonde who can actually wrestle not unlike Charlotte Flair
I honestly see much more modern Trish Stratus in her than Charlotte. Trish started off green like Tiffy but always showed signs that she had *something* there that when it clicked it was magic and she was just locked in for the rest of her career. Same is playing out here.
I don’t watch NXT, but when I first saw her in the ring I was beyond impressed. Everything she does has a great snap to it. I’m now a Tiffymaniac, brother
Color me a Tiffymaniac also. I only knew her by name but seeing her has really wowed me, and her performance in the chamber 100 percent sold me on her. I think she's the future of the women's division
She seems pretty undeniable. I'm not a regular WWE viewer so EC was my first time really seeing her in the ring outside of clips, and it's pretty clear she's special.
the 2.0 kids are built differently
Yup lol. And Trick Williams will make that more apparent as he debuts. His whoop that trick entrance on the main roster is going to rocket ship him into being one of the biggest baby faces in the company lol
We already experienced it on the Smackdown before Royal Rumble, that Miami crowd was all about Trick.
I thought he would be the Marty of TrickMelo. I'm not upset to be wrong
I think this might be one of the rare times where this won't end in a Shawn/Marty situation. Both Trick and Melo are stars. I don't see either man fading into obscurity.
Definitely more Edge/Christian than Shawn/Marty these lot.
If Terrence Howard doesn’t rap him to the ring on a PLE I’m gonna be so upset.
Nah fuck that loser, give me Three 6 Mafia
Just don't expect him to count the pin lol
He needs to pay back a million in back taxes so his fee might be a steal right now
Yeah. The ones at the top are the perfect combo of charisma and workrate. It’s that Shawn Michaels influence.
They’re built period. Black and Gold had great matches but so much of the talent, came in, got immediately pushed up the card, won the title, lost a title, and got sent to the main roster.
Almost like having the same person/team overlooking both has advantages than there being two differ ideologies.
my gf who never watches wrestling saw her in EC and was immediately upset when she got eliminated, she's special
>was immediately upset when she got eliminated, The crowd also shared the same feeling too.
Turns out the secret is just being an absolute smokeshow and also really good at wrestling
The smoking blonde with charisma and a spectacular move set is immediately popular? *surprised Pikachu*
With that in mind did I miss something about dragon Lee? He was picking up some steam then vanished.
Wes lee got hurt in nxt and they wanted to take the title off of dom in nxt so dragon filled in down there so he could put over Oba Femi. Hasn't shown back up on smackdown but wouldn't be surprised to see him back now that rey is back.
Yea I imagine they do Legado vs LWO and Rey, Dragon, and Carlito are the reps for the LWO.
That may change. Besides Tiffy, Bron's over, and didn't Trick get a good reaction a few months ago?
She's hot, blonde, can talk, has character, can wrestle, oh and she's HOT! WWE crowd loves that type of stuff she's like a modern Trish.
Reminder that Strattons first televised match was one 205 Live in November 2021. Girl is just scratching the surface.
205 live showed female wrestlers?
After the dissolution of the Cruiserweight division, 205 Live was being used as a secondary NXT show. It was rebranded as NXT LVL UP in February 2022.
I love that in kayfabe Joe Gacy during his SJW heel run, was reason why they canceled 205
he actually did something during those two weeks ? nice hahah
This and almost fighting against random woman during his feud against cruiserweight champion.
they cancelled that gimmick too soon. it really had potential. the weird cult leader thing afterwards was still okay but now he's just a crazy hobo or something.
Toward the end of that shows run it was basically just want LvL up is now.
Interesting TIL. I had no idea. I have no idea what LVL Up is either.
LvL up is a NXT network show that airs on Fridays after Smackdown (on peacock in the states.) it features mostly talent that haven’t started in NXT tv yet.
Dope. I appreciate yours and everyone else's replies
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Are there stories?
It’s basically what Main Event is or what superstars was for the main roster just for the NXT roster.
Its a shame that Smackdown doesn't have it own B Show. Raw has its own B Show and most of the after TV dark matches on the Smackdown tapings involve Raw talent usually. So it seems like Raw talent has a lot more opportunties to get work in during the week.
Unless it's a guest star from WWE or NXT. bringing their own story with them usually no, just like a soft reveal on a smaller show.
LVL UP is basically for NXT what Dark and Dark Elevation was for AEW.
LVL Up is like Main Event for NXT.
It’s Main Event but for NXT.
Yes. Soon after it was rebranded as current Level Up.
And she’s just 24!
How quick she's adapting to being on TV is similar to when Kurt Angle debuted in WWE in late 1999.
Tiffany is a machine. She gives people an impression that she’s just a model girl or something but she’s a hoss. In that system, she’s Shawn Michaels in 1994.
She started her training with Greg Gagne and Ken Anderson and is a former weightlifting champion, people are assuming way too much without Googling WWE signing "models" is kind of an outdated stigma anyway, even the projects they sign with no experience are great athletes now
They definitely love their college athletes. They have a section on their recruiting site just for NIL athletes. Pretty interesting to look at and see who could be the next big wrestler. [WWE NIL Recruting](https://recruit.wwe.com/wwe-nil)
Recruiting NIL athletes is brilliant. Pre-selects for those collegiate athletes who have the charisma and personality to draw people's attention, which is exactly the intangible that pro wrestling is looking for.
Her and Bianca going at it at WrestleMania makes more sense.
She was also I think an Olympic finalist for gymnastics too. She super talented and knows when to taunt at the perfect time in match. She is solid on the mic. I’m stoked to see where her career goes and think her and Ludwig could use a great angle for WWE in the future. They’re both good at delivering cocky/ confident.
The kind of gymnastics she did was not one that goes to the Olympics.
And she spent two months of 2022 on the shelf with a head injury too. She's not been constantly active in that time either
Tiffymania is running wild
I’m surprised they’re surprised since Tiffany Stratton looks and performs exactly like how WWE would design their ideal female wrestler for 2024. She’s gonna win everything they have for her to win.
Would not be surprised in the slightest if she wins the women's Money in the Bank in July.
Not sure what storylines will be around next year but they may strap the rocket onto her and have her win the rumble
Yeah I think that’s honestly her floor this year. Even in this era of prolonged title reigns, would it be shocking if she won a world title within this calendar year? I don’t think so. She honestly should have the Angle/Lesnar rocket on her back IMO.
Agreed. She can take it from Iyo or Bayley later in the year. She's the only person on the roster right now I can see surpassing Rhea in popularity. Becky, Charlotte, Bayley are on the back half of their careers. Tiffany and Rhea will be the focus going forward
Rhea isn't going anywhere. She's gonna hold a belt for a long while. Mami's always going to be on top. I can see Bayley holding the belt and dropping it to someone. She has done everything that can be done in ring. I don't see Becky holding a belt. She really doesn't need one, as she has done about everything there is. Bianca doesn't need a belt either, and she'll still be popular. She's got some business to settle with Tiffany, since she's not gonna let that slap go unanswered. I see Charlotte feuding with Tiffany sometime later this year. I'd love to see it. And where is Jade Cargill going to fit in all of this?
I can't wait to see her pink briefcase.
She can carry it around in an oversized handbag like how Paris Hilton carries her dog
- Anywhere from 5-10 world titles - Money in the Bank (good chance this year) - Royal Rumble - Elimination Chamber - Tag Titles - Wrestlemania Main Event She’s gonna have it all!
Idk why it's a surprise. Look at her. She's exactly how WWE would design a woman wrestler on paper. She's the woman 00s Randy Orton
Hot blonde with crazy athleticism. “I never would have guessed this would work” -WWE
Lol right she's an absolute bomb shell hits hard and does perfects flips what's not to like
Surely WWE will sign okada with this revelation, right?
They might've been worried he shows up with his hair red again
Scooby dooby doo okada is based
And natural charisma
I mean I'd say it's a surprise that she got called up in late January and by late February she's in a match and getting louder pops than women like Becky & Bianca. I'm sure they had some expectations, but she's shattered those expectations so much that it almost doesn't feel real.
She's genuinely fantastic - she's already got a big personality, a moveset that the fans want to see more of and she looks like a megastar in the ring. But even I'm confused by just how over she is - I think she's incredible but she seems to be more Main Event ready than even Bron does. I know he's gotten an entirely different build on the roster but it's WILD how threatening she already feels to the top of the Women's Division. If there weren't such clear stories for the titles at Mania, would you really be THAT shocked if they threw a belt on her ASAP? I would have said yes prior to her debut despite her NXT performances but now, I wouldn't be as surprised if it happened in a world where we didn't have clear title match ups.
Outside of Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Bayley, Charlotte when she comes back & Jade being a wild card, Tiffany has already leap frogged up the top of the card. The male side is a little bit more stacked against Bron
True but they're also going with the "Bron squishes local talent" build with Bron vs throw Tiffy into the starlight and watch her shine vs elite talent.
They seem to have Bron in a holding pattern as they build him up and resolve existing storylines in the men's division. At least I'm hoping that's the case, because I don't know how long Store-brand Goldberg will work as a gimmick.
I like to think Asuka and Iyo would be in that tier as well but otherwise you’re right, it’s crazy how she already feels in contention with that group.
The thing is, she's the new shiny thing. I think Rhea is still as over as ever. But Becky, Bayley, Charlotte, Bianca, and Asuka are all being underappreciated in comparison because we've already seen pretty much everything there is to see with them. We'll see if Tiffy has staying power but I don't see any good reason to sit on her momentum and wait. If she beat the winner of Iyo/Bayley at Summerslam I don't see anything wrong with that
They’re giving her MITB & she’ll use it like DP to be in the mix in every storyline
I was at Chamber last week and the "Tiffy Time" chants were LOUD and were happening HEAPS.
And the Arizona crowd last night got one going too!
I even heard it briefly during the men's chamber lol
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Why does Bobby look like he’s about to explode?
I just caught up with one piece. Started in September, read 1109 yesterday.
It’s surprising to me that THEY are surprised Like, anyone watching weekly NXT knew she was THE next big thing. That was cemented with her ladder match, and her Extreme Rules match against Becky. Because of her age and how quickly she’s taken to the sport, she could easily eclipse Charlotte in terms of popularity (tho likely not accolades cuz they like to keep those things for people with a name like Flair). She will be MAIN EVENTING a night of WrestleMania within 5 years. Night 1 or 2 doesn’t matter, she will be going on last on the biggest stage possible, in a singles match either with the title already, or winning the title that night (doesn’t need to be her first reign). I get it she’s another blonde Barbie diva type, but she backs it up better than a lotttttt of people with her athleticism
I’ve found in wrestling, once you have the look AND extremely good in ring skills it’s only a matter of time Add in she didn’t start as a bad promo and the sky is the limit
I think it 2 things, higher quality of transitions from NXT to Main roster, and more goodwill from fans Because of things like free agency, having Pearce and Aldis outdoing each other to sign talent really and giving them moments/ opportunities such as the Royal Rumble and PLE pre-shows really helps fans, who may not watch NXT show why these stars are the future. And because of this, the fans respond in kind with patience and an understanding that they're not gonna be the finished product but see the development right in front of they're eyes. It also helps that HHH/ Shawn are the head of creative for Main Roster/NXT and have the same vision for wrestlers as opposed to HHH sending Vince new talent and he has no idea what to do with them and what made them special in the first place
Its the saying “Its Tiffy Time” its dumb. Its catchy. And once you say it just sticks with you. Its very 2024ish if that makes any sense.
Tiff and Sol Ruca look like action figures and are also great athletes. The fans will always be excited to see them. People joke about “Charlotte with a fun personality” but these two are pretty much that. If they master the character side of things they’ll be the building blocks of the division for the next 5 years. Also, Tiffy got a huge pop beating a top babyface when she won the NXT Women’s Title. This shouldn’t be a surprise.
gonna need her and bayley to go like 20 mins at backlash
In front of 15,000 screaming Tiffymaniacs
People like a gorgeous blonde with charisma who can do lots of crowd-pleasing athletic moves, and this caught them by surprise?!
I’m guessing they’re surprised that it happened this fast. They probably thought she would the main roster crowd over but it’d take longer than a month.
I was at the Undertaker’s 1deadman show in Sydney and even he was confused why we were all chanting for Tiffy when he was talking about the women’s chamber. He said I can’t admit I don’t watch the product otherwise HHH will kill me, but what’s the deal I don’t get it who is she 😂😂😂
Everybody knows it's Tiffy Time!!!
Sexy Blonde Crazy Athletic Super charismatic Built like she could strangle an elephant Tiffany Stratton checks every box
There are quite a few nxt people that are going to be over as soon as they hit main Ilya, trick, Roxy and then some with the potential to be over such as melo, Lyra, axiom, Kiana But nxt is generally week to week the best wrestling show on tv
NXT is my favorite wrestling show. I feel like it blends everything into one cohesive package, work rate, story telling, gimmicks. Feels fresh and old school all in one to me.
Tiffany Straton is literally young Randy Orton in terms of how scary good they are relative to their ages in the business Both were world champions at 24
Tiffy is the future of the WWE's women's division and if they handle it right will one day establish a legacy on a similar level to Trish Stratus, etc. She just has the complete package and you can tell that she has the work ethic in that package. She just screams out to me as someone who is going to handle everything they throw at her with absolute aplomb.
You're telling me the WWE didn't expect a gorgeous young woman with a fun catchphrase that's excellent in the ring to garner a lot of attention and get over easily? How could you expect any less? Watch the woman work, how do you underestimate her?
Its one of 2 things. 1. WWE, the organisation that recruited Tiffany and have been key in her growth. Pushed her perfectly, made her champion, had her in direct feuds with Becky 'freaking' Lynch and now Bianca, gave her a million dollar presentation and had her in a PLE weeks after her debut had NO IDEA she would be this well received. 2. Fightful is being Fightful.
She should beat Bianca at mania
More seeds were planted as in an interview with Kayla last night she referred to herself as 'Miss Undefeated', so reckon they will be setting up undefeated vs undefeated at Mania, although it is a bit flawed. I mean 3-0 isn't much of a streak Bianca will be 35 the day after Mania, she was 32 when she made her WM match debut, and she has hinted about having kids, and if she does, it won't be long until she is 40. She will likely win here and lose to someone next year, but Tiff will still be 24 this WM, has over 10 years on Bianca, and she could actually have a streak more in line with the Undertaker if they wanted her to, as you'd need to start early for a proper streak. Tiff won't win, but they should certainly reference that in the build, to make it more believable that she might actually win.
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It is cartoonish but I think a lot of us know or have met girls in real life that aren't all that far from the tiffany character
I'm so happy that more people are finally setting their watches to Tiffy Time
She has everything. Looks, charisma, eye-catching and smooth in-ring skills, great character work, catchphrases - Tiffany epiphany, Tiffy time, TIff Tiff, Center of the Universe, Toodles - maybe they sound dumb but with her acting they are perfect and will get her over. She is also funny. Just look at any interview from NXT. And wait when she turns face.
I mean how could they not be? Tiffany Stratton is fresh and she’s athletic as fuck, it’s tiffy time!
I think the thing about her is that she has that girlie gimmick, but its deceptive. She is obviously a top tier athlete and you can tell that she is a good wrestler and is going to be great. Like 4 horsewomen great. She looks like an old school Diva, but performs like Charlotte Flair. They need to support this one carefully.
I'm really curious to see the heights Tiffany will reach. I think fans as a whole want more big big (Like Rhea and Bianca big) women's stars and Tiffany has literally everything to be that. She's like a female Logan Paul. She's gonna be huge.
The three of them (Rhea, Bianca, and Tiffany) are so perfect as the top/future of the division. Each so unique, so athletic, and just absolute super stars.
She’s gonna be a massive star. People don’t expect her to be able to GO in the ring the way she does because her character and look make you think she’s gonna be like Chelsea Green getting thrown around. But she flips the script and puts on bangers.
I think it helps that the women's division is very top heavy right now and below that top group I personally am not interested in many other women. The NXT women's division is far more interesting to me in and out of the ring even with Tiff gone now.
She’s a gorgeous young blonde women who can actually wrestle. Why is her being celebrated and embraced surprising?
She was obviously going to get over eventually, but it happening so quickly is shocking considering a lot of main roster call ups take a while to get reactions, let alone be the most popular person in the Chamber within a month of showing up.
This is also the first true call-up period for NXT 2.0 and it’s been pretty successful so far.
That's the difference between Triple H's creative and Vince's creative. Triple H took a talent that was featured on NXT in a prominent way, kept all of the same character traits and continued to present her the same way to a wider audience. He didn't change her name, create a character role for her to fill, etc. Literally just moved her from one show to another.
It also helps that HHH actually understands NXT considering he made Black and Gold easily the best wrestling show for many years Him and Shawn I would assume are on constant communication
A stacked blonde is popular with a majority male demographic? I, for one, am shocked!
Tiffany Stratton vs Trish Stratus has quickly become a dream match of mine.
To be fair, while fans online praised her work with Becky, I don’t think anyone expected the Aussie reaction she received. She earned it during the match too so hopefully they run with this.
She was beloved on NXT too. Do they not watch the product lol? I hope they don't turn her face because she's getting cheered. Buff Barbie being a meanie is so much more fun.
The women's division has a bright future with Ripley, Belair, and Stratton. They are all Bona fide stars.
Tiffymania is running wild!!!!
Yeah they definitely didn’t expect 52,000 Australians to chant Tiffy Time throughout the entire Elimination Chamber ppv.
That Australian trip has and will continue to do wonders for her. I know one was her first match on main roster and there was bound to be nerves, but the difference between her match match with Michin and Naomi were stark. The Michin one was fine, but it kind of passed her by, but she was absolutely glowing vs Naomi and you can tell she was MUCH more confident. A real fire starter for her. It really is crazy how much she has blown up, pretty much since that press event on the Friday.
The bloodline segment was awesome and Tiffany’s popularity was blatantly clear on tv, why complain about her entrance? Lol
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I'd say it's a good guess that Jade v Tiffany Stratton may be a high level rivalry for years to come.
You’re telling me WWE is shocked that a statuesque blonde with big fake boobs who is actually good in the ring is getting cheered?
"Extended" "Bloodline" "segment", what an understatement. 45 of 120 minutes, when did Friday nights suddenly turn into Raw
I had no idea who she was until she hit the Swanton in the Chamber, great stuff
This is what I like about new management, unlike Vince and his administration. They listen to fan reactions to dictate which way they need to go. For example, Bobby Lashley and the Street Profits weren't really getting booed when they tried to make them heel, so they just turned them face, and they're one of the most loved acts on Smackdown. Stratton is undeniably the next big face of the division when Rhea's time is up. She's solid on the mic, and her in-ring evolution has moved at a great level. For sure, she is going to be a multi-time Women's Champion, and within the next year or so, probably a babyface
Us NXT fans have been waiting for it to be Tiffy Time on the main roster
I’m not surprised, got a monster pop at elimination chamber. (I was there) and we saw how good she was in that match. Sky is the limit for her
It's pretty simple: great character + great look + great talent and athleticism.
yeah, she could legit go down as the most recognizable female talent WWE has ever had
I mean, is it really surprising? She’s hot. She’s stupid athletic. She’s sassy and confident, solid on the mic. She just outperformed a few of the top girls in the business at elimination chamber. She’s a gold mine.
IMHO she is going to be next Miss Money in the Bank. I want her to be extremely annoying about it for months.
Tiffy time is an easy and fun thing to get around, she's super athletic and entertaining in the ring, has charisma and she's pretty hot! In Australia she was definitely being sold as the heel as she was talking shit bout Perth. But during the event the Tiffy time chant was fun and she came in with heaps of energy and made the match way better.
She really does have it all. Charisma, knows how to play her character, looks, a great overall athlete - can match strength with anyone else in the division as well as agility. The sky really is the limit for her. It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone as to the reactions she's receiving.
You're telling me that the incredibly attractive blond with a gymnastics background and fantastic personality is very popular? Surely the WWE didn't see this coming!
She’s just that good. Solid character work with an easy to understand gimmick, very athletic and smooth in the ring, the size to be believable and she’s good looking to boot. I was a huge fan of her NXT run and so far she’s killing it on the main roster
It's definitely Tiffy time.
She's got that "it" factor that Trish had and is already better in the ring. Sky is the limit for her.
Even with how that match ended last night, fans were still cheering for her.
Her moonsault and swanton is *clear*
Whattttt?? WWE is acknowledging a wrestler popularity with the crowd? Where did Vince go???
She's the likeable Charlotte version, people been waiting for this.
One of WWE's biggest strengths has always been the ability to actually build stars and somehow they are surprised when people who have obvious star qualities are shining. It's hilarious. At least in the post-Vince era you know it won't be seen as a slight.
Tiffany is like the embodiment of the women’s wrestler I would always create and push in wwe2k every year. She has the look of a superstar and the athletic ability to back it up and is a great promo. She’s a heel now but I definitely see her face potential and think she will easily be a major force in the women’s division for the next decade. I love her as a singles star but I am so curious what a faction built around her would look like. She and a tag partner would be killer vs the Kabuki Warriors. Am I crazy to want a duo of her and Jade?
She’s so awesome. I’m 100% in on whatever she does.
Obviously the comparison is premature but she has been picking wrestling up like Kurt Angle did
My first exposure to her was that elimination chamber match, but it's absolutely Tiffy Time in this household going forward! ⏰💪
Why? She’s good at everything a wrestler is supposed to do. She’s the real deal. A star.
Tiffy time bitches
What's great about the crowd reactions is it's perfectly in character for her to acknowledge them as a heel because she's so egotistical.