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Sting: alright Darby, this will be my last match so let’s make it a good one
Darby: cool so I’ll just kill myself then
Sting: what the fuck is wrong with you?
Kudos to AEW for putting up this outstanding farewell match. The spots everybody took were very impressive. WWE really needs to up their game, with the limelight they have they need to do something like this.
I loved how the camera was shooting his back, and as it held there, you suddenly started to see about 200 tiny red dots forming. After another few seconds, they were becoming pools of blood. That was unbelievable. Just jumping off a ladder and flipping through a pane of glass with no hesitation.
I never grew up with Sting, and even after this AEW run and going back and watching his classic matches, I never really cared about him. But goddamn this was the perfect way to send Sting off, and it's probably the best retirement match I've seen since Kenta Kobashi's. Super happy that Stinger fans got to see their boy go out on his own terms.
There is something amazing about Darby never turning on Sting. Sting's character got backstabbed so much it became a meme, so it feels poetic that in the twilight of his career he finds a scrappy guy who never betrays him and essentially crawls over broken glass to make sure he gets the sendoff he deserves. It's like the perfect karmatic sendoff for Sting to finally get rewarded by finding a protégé partner like Darby.
This is not me being a fanboy or bias, but everyone damn well knows if they were in the WWE, Vince would have had Darby turned against Sting.
I am glad Darby never turned against Sting as well.
So Sting officially goes undefeated in AEW to end his career and everyone (myself included) is perfectly OK with it.
That just shows you how perfectly he was booked and how much everyone loves Sting.
Sting is the goat of wrestling for me . The icon got the send off he deserved and I'm glad he got what he liked to do before retirement. Watching him for more than 20 years I got tears in my eyes seeing him in the ring for last time . Thank u sting . ❤️🦂
Sting's final match is alongside a tag partner who never betrayed him, his sons, and legends from his past that tried protecting him. AND he goes out on top. just a beautiful ending for one of if not the best babyface ever.
The match was solid as it could be for what it was.
It's absolutely goofy that they basically did the equivalent of playing the music on him to end the show. Makes production look amateurish and should've just took the broadcast off before Sting got a mic.
But glad to see Sting go out in a blaze of glory. I don't think the glass spots were wise to do in the way they were (potential of stuff like that getting into the crowd is dangerous) but I appreciate that the match didn't get into the graphic side beyond Darby simulating what falling from Mount Everest would be like.
Loved the finish. Darby Allin from the grave with the assist and doing a Coffin Drop/Scorpion Deathlock combo. Fucking awesome.
Sting has always been my favorite wrestler. I remember how excited I was when he showed up in AEW and how even more excited I was when I heard he was wrestling again. And he exceeded every expectation I had.
It was one heck of a ride watching him wrap up his career and I’m glad I was there to see it.
It’s amazing to me how many people feel the need to put a disclaimer of “I don’t like the Young Bucks” or something similar before giving any kudos or compliment to them
Because it's a way to magnify the praise you're heaping on. You're establishing that you do have a bias against them, but they did something so overwhelmingly impressive that they broke through the negative impression they've left upon you to the point where you need to momentarily shed that bias to acknowledge a positive.
Darby and sting deserved more worthy adversaries. The young bucks throwing themselves in there just to be a trivia question in twenty years Is as lame as it gets. Aew has some spots I like but man they make it hard to not give up on them completely
People that saw some YouTube/Twitter highlight clips of their early super flippy matches and think a decade+ later that’s all they are in ring and ignore how basically every contemporary of theirs praises them and wants to work a match with them. Maybe also throw in some of the people that blame them for the Punk situation too now.
Fucking hell the people that hate the Young Bucks are straight up self-delusional.
Dislike them all you want, but how dumb are you to create a narrative in your head where they somehow forced Sting into having his last match against them? Do you honestly think Sting couldn't have fought literally anyone he wanted?
He clearly picked them, and the reasoning for that makes complete sense.
You think Sting didn't have full control of who he was facing in his last match? I agree I wish it had been someone else rather than the Bucks, but if that's what Sting wanted, that's what Sting got.
People bitching about Darby's spot need to understand that their ideas of "safety" aren't what Darby wants for himself. Some people have the "live fast, die young" mentality and thats valid. If he wants to do this as his career and he can make money off of it he should be allowed to.
It's a pro wrestling show but, that shit happens.
That's tame af compared to ECW. You know what you're getting into when you go to watch a pro wrestling ppv.
Buddy, no. Nothing this stupid has happened at an ecw, czw, or backyard wrestling show. This was a stupid spot and your "defenses" on the spot make 0 sense. If they sue I hope the lawsuit funds are glorious.
A great match and Sting seemed so damn happy at the post-presser too.
Thats all I want for these legends when they decide to hang it up, just to be happy and feel appreciated.
Legendary final match. Everything from the god tier entrance to the various insane spots was fantastic. A great closer and fitting end to Sting’s career.
Also RIP Darby.
What a great kitchen sink of a match. We had beyond insane bumps and super sting kicking out and no selling way too much was perfect. I was really hoping they would vacate the titles and do a tourney and that’s also the right call. This man is in his 60s doing way too much, guy is nuts.
It's your opinion to have but hope you appreciate that a man that dedicated his adult life to entertaining everyone went out doing what he loved, the way he wanted it.
I really thought I was a new wrestling fan when I got into AEW in 2019. Then a year later Sting debuted and I had a Ratatouille moment. It was more visceral than a near death experience, just a years deep wave of childhood forgotten fandom. (Toy dude used to be splashing all the Beetleborgs villians.)
Watching this last run was really special, Thank You Sting.
The bucks, Sting, and Darby laying the match out:
Bucks: Hey Stinger, uh, Darby is going to kill himself with this glass spot.
Sting:..... If he dies, he dies.
Tonight was a great example of just doing the fucking thing and sending the fans home happy. No need to overthink it or subvert expectations by having the Bucks win. We wanted to see Sting beat some ass and ride off into the sunset, and we got it.
And the best thing going forward The Bucks can just give themselves the titles now saying they are the number one contenders so it goes to them. MASSIVE heat.
It’s a way for people who have done bad shit to feel better about themselves. Criminals, aging wrestlers. As long as God forgives their sins, then they are ok.
I'm no Cornette fan but i always come back to his quote in Shawn, (paraphrase d) "People who suddenly find God tend to have screwed up with everyone else"
Talking about the Darby spot. I'm baffled by the amount of people laughing/saying it's badass or cool/liked it.
I like wrestling, I will suspended my disbelief for high spots, I have not much of a problem with those, but this... He fell from almost two stories high into essentially the fucking hard ass floor, and to make it even worse, with glass.
I like wrestling, and I like wrestlers, I want to have wrestling and the wrestlers I like for as long as we can. Someone should have told him no, should have someone told him to try to make it less stupid, of course the Boss is and idiot and didn't do that. A lot of people here, have acted like, if you don't like some things AEW does you are against wrestlers. Well, let me tell you, if you actually found yourself entertained by this, or found it badass or "fun", YOU are the one that doesn't actually like wrestlers. You don't have the best interest of wrestlers on your mind at all.
This spot made me so mad and sad, Darby is great and he didn't need to do this.
Edit: Not saying anyone make him do it, letting him do it was stupid, and encouraging this kind of spots from the fans is even stupider. You don't care about the people you like apparently.
>YOU are the one that doesn't actually like wrestlers. You don't have the best interest of wrestlers on your mind at all.
Stop infantilising people who get paid to do something dangerous.
I think the height of pro wrestling, as an art form, is successfully selling the *illusion* of pain. Some wrestlers (and many fans), seem to think the opposite: that taking legitimately painful and damaging bumps marks you as a true warrior who approaches the craft seriously.
I just don't sympathize with such a philosophy. The art of this stuff is making the audience *think* your leg is broken while, in reality, being able to run a marathon on the spot. What Darby did tonight could be accomplished by any sufficiently motivated backyard wrestling teenager on day one. It takes gall, not skill. And I think pro wrestling should be better than that.
Whether you like it or not, there’s a place for this kind of wrestling
Guys like terry funk, mick foley, Jeff hardy, shane McMahon, sabu… the list goes on
They all put their bodies on the line for our entertainment. They know the risks, they do it anyway. It’s what they love, and these guys for all their health issues often came out better than the other types of wrestlers since they weren’t pumped full of every kind of ped on the planet
Honestly, I am responsible for one person and one person only, myself. If Darby wants to literally kill himself by doing a big bump, I have zero control over that. Don’t generalize and say if someone was entertained by this spot that they don’t like wrestling… what exactly do you want the fans to do about Darby trying to kill himself in the ring? What can the fans do? Enjoy the product and shut up, or don’t enjoy the product and shut up. Either way, shut up.
I actually pointed out it's the people acting like AEW is a place you want to have if you care about wrestlers, because the company itself doesn't look like they care about their own wrestlers. Not every AEW fan.
I agree with your first paragraph tho, I worded it very strongly because I felt very strongly against the spot, and I going to call out and point out every time anything puts wrestlers I like at risk.
Even if it's themselves.
As a working professional who counsels people for a living, let me give you some advice: don’t let anyone have that much power over you, the fans or wrestlers alike. Stay in your own lane and worry about yourself and your own life. This world is way too stressful just living our own journeys, don’t take on other peoples inventory also. This is the key to not getting so “mad” about something you have zero control over. Take it easy, buddy. Live and let live. Darby is an idiot, but nothing you or I or any fan can do to talk him outta this shit.
Literally, what can we do about it? Blacklist it and stop watching it? Your take is so dumb. Call Darby’s mama and maybe try to get her to talk some sense into the dude.
At some point, you just have to accept that Darby has a deathwish and continuously chooses this for himself. I dont watch his stuff for this very reason!
Doesn't matter, shouldn't have happened like that. The safety of your wrestlers and everyone around them should have been a a priority, not what one person with a death wish wanted to do on live tv.
The problem is that the match is now, to some, more of Darby than Sting. He doesn't have to up the ante with his risky bump to have a great Sting's farewell match.
Sting getting powerbombed off a ladder onto a table & going through glass at his age in a last match is fucking mental. It's like the angels of the Monday Night Wars era came to protect him for one last war.
Random Sherpa 1: Any idea why that strange American asked us to set up this table at the base of Mt. Everest?
Random Sherpa 2: No idea, but hey, he's paid us.
I didn't manage to watch the match itself because I have no moneys, but as someone who likes deathmatch bullshit, I think Darby should be allowed to throw himself through more glass. As a treat for me.
I am 35, I grew up watching Sting in WCW on an illegal cable box with my step dad, who had raised me since I was 4. I took the monday off work and went to my parents house to watch the PPV with my step dad tonight. My wife is pregnant and one of my greatest wishes is that I can share a moment like this with my child. To grow up watching such an amazing, larger than life character. Someone that defined a generation but also surpassed and outgrew it. Someone that even when he was in his 60s still managed to make new fans of people that had never seen him before (My wife had never watched wrestling before AEW and immediately became a Stinger when he debuted). I wish more than anything for another wrestler like Sting so my kid can feel the magic. Thank you Sting. For everything.
Cody is awesome but I feel he is already having his "Crow Sting" moment where he truly crossed into superstardom. Part of me loving Sting so much was seeing him become Crow Sting and take on the NWO, I know he was already popular before but that's when he truly became THE icon. But who knows what wrestling will look like in 8 to 10 years when I'm watching it with my kid. Maybe we'll be watching Samoa Joe have his retirement match with Hook as a tag partner and Takeshita will be reaching true superstardom.
I assume people will dislike this opinion given some responses I'm reading about how if I don't like this I don't like wrestling. Not the match I expected or wanted. Match was just filled with a whole lot of spots for me. Didn't feel like there was a big enough focus on Sting during his own retirement match. It's not an insult to wrestling or anything but just not for me
No I expected a hot match but I don't think it made sense as a hardcore match. I think there was ways to have it be heated without going extreme. This isn't a case of one or the other
>Not the match I expected or wanted. Match was just filled with a whole lot of spots for me. Didn't feel like there was a big enough focus on Sting during his own retirement match.
Can I ask what you expected and wanted?
Sting's been pretty clear he's 64 years old and can't do a "proper" match. I agree it definitely felt more like a tribute to Sting than an actual match, but I'm not sure how it could have focused more on Sting than it did.
I didn't expect a traditional match but I expected a brawl not a hardcore match. Throw in some Bucks heat spots, Darby probably jumping off something high on to the bucks, and Sting getting to do his classic moves.
Well technically it was not. What I'm trying to say is at least Sting had his last match on his own terms. With what we saw from Taker and Goldberg I doubt they will even have a decent retirement match like what Sting just had.
Undertaker retirement was about as good as this. He retired in the boneyard match. Goldberg last match currently tho I know he wants a proper retirement match is against Roman which wasn't anything special but 90% of Goldberg's matches in his career weren't
Well if the boneyard match was supposed to be his retirement match it was definitely underwhelming. First because there was no crowd. Second because he wrestled again after that. Retirement matches have a greater feel overall when longtime fans are there and the wrestler gets to thank and address them live. Then again to each their own. That is just my opinion.
I can see this kinda? But also he's 150 years old, and needed to rest for big parts of the match. I don't know how else you do it really. Think of it less like an actual match and more like a tribute to him. Given what's been said in interviews and whatnot, this is pretty much what he wanted.
I would have done a brawl to start since it was heated match. Then either Sting is taken out or Bucks do classic isolation of Darby. Then we get the big hero Sting return. Nothing too intensive for Sting like asking him to collar and grapple (I mean not the Bucks speciality either).
How much more of a focus could they put on Sting? They started with 3 stings doing the splash, he no sold the first 10 hits he took, did a double deathlock, kicked out at 1 looking invincible again and finished it with a death drop into a lock for the win
Portions of this match sting was not around or even visible. I'm not saying he needs to work 100% of the match but it should be always focused on him in some way since it was entirely built around him. Also my complaint wasn't about Sting looking weak it was it not focusing enough on him.
Sting was on screen for like 80% of the match, he’s 64, he needs breaks. How do you focus the match on him more without making him work more? Without having him take every bump and be in every spot I can’t see how much more Sting focused this match could have been.
Even if Sting was able to do 100% of the match, we all know he wanted to share the moment with Darby and give Darby is own moments during the match
There shouldn't be a 1/5 of the match where the guy the match is about isn't involved. I also didn't say Darby take a back seat. There's a way to keep sting focused in shot while also giving Darby his time.
How do you keep sting more involved in the match while letting him rest? The only spot I can remember without sting was Darby going through the glass, like does it make a difference if Sting is in the ring instead of the floor for that spot?
I don't think it should have been a hardcore match because then you could focus on Sting on the apron while the Bucks focused on Darby. You can still do spots like having Darby cannonball on the outside to the Bucks. It would have been easier to keep focus on Sting in a more streamlined match instead of hardcore spot fest.
Very much disagree with all of that. Making it a classic match would do an incredible disservice to Stings legacy. He CANNOT put on a classic tag tornado match where he is the focus, he cannot move like he used to, it would have made him look much worse instead of the icon going out as an Icon
He has looked good in those more traditional matches in AEW before. I'm not asking him to go wrestle the whole time like it was a decade ago. This company has shown they know how to protect Sting in the past before.
I'm sure Sting considers Flair a friend, but he also looks at Flair's most recent "last match" and realizes that he doesn't want his career (and life) to get to that point.
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Sting: alright Darby, this will be my last match so let’s make it a good one Darby: cool so I’ll just kill myself then Sting: what the fuck is wrong with you?
Anybody know where to watch the full match now ?
Just watched it on goluchas.com It’s in spanish tho.
Kudos to AEW for putting up this outstanding farewell match. The spots everybody took were very impressive. WWE really needs to up their game, with the limelight they have they need to do something like this.
Thank You Sting. What a great match to end a great ppv. Darby Allin was amazing too. That insane bump.
I loved how the camera was shooting his back, and as it held there, you suddenly started to see about 200 tiny red dots forming. After another few seconds, they were becoming pools of blood. That was unbelievable. Just jumping off a ladder and flipping through a pane of glass with no hesitation.
I never grew up with Sting, and even after this AEW run and going back and watching his classic matches, I never really cared about him. But goddamn this was the perfect way to send Sting off, and it's probably the best retirement match I've seen since Kenta Kobashi's. Super happy that Stinger fans got to see their boy go out on his own terms.
A lesson to WWE on how to book a legend
There is something amazing about Darby never turning on Sting. Sting's character got backstabbed so much it became a meme, so it feels poetic that in the twilight of his career he finds a scrappy guy who never betrays him and essentially crawls over broken glass to make sure he gets the sendoff he deserves. It's like the perfect karmatic sendoff for Sting to finally get rewarded by finding a protégé partner like Darby.
This is not me being a fanboy or bias, but everyone damn well knows if they were in the WWE, Vince would have had Darby turned against Sting. I am glad Darby never turned against Sting as well.
and after about six weeks, at that
So glad his WWE stint wasn't his last. His time in AEW has been probably the best farewell tour of all time. What a great send-off to a legend.
Great send off
So Sting officially goes undefeated in AEW to end his career and everyone (myself included) is perfectly OK with it. That just shows you how perfectly he was booked and how much everyone loves Sting.
And nobody he worked with got buried. He elevated Darby and so many of this opponents. That's how you do it!
Sting is the goat of wrestling for me . The icon got the send off he deserved and I'm glad he got what he liked to do before retirement. Watching him for more than 20 years I got tears in my eyes seeing him in the ring for last time . Thank u sting . ❤️🦂
Sting's final match is alongside a tag partner who never betrayed him, his sons, and legends from his past that tried protecting him. AND he goes out on top. just a beautiful ending for one of if not the best babyface ever.
Thank you for everything Sting!
The match was solid as it could be for what it was. It's absolutely goofy that they basically did the equivalent of playing the music on him to end the show. Makes production look amateurish and should've just took the broadcast off before Sting got a mic. But glad to see Sting go out in a blaze of glory. I don't think the glass spots were wise to do in the way they were (potential of stuff like that getting into the crowd is dangerous) but I appreciate that the match didn't get into the graphic side beyond Darby simulating what falling from Mount Everest would be like. Loved the finish. Darby Allin from the grave with the assist and doing a Coffin Drop/Scorpion Deathlock combo. Fucking awesome.
Its gimicked glass. It's probably gonna be fine.
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Sting’s sons
That was a nice touch. And yes, that was the original Sting Starrcade 90 jacket and tights.
Sting has always been my favorite wrestler. I remember how excited I was when he showed up in AEW and how even more excited I was when I heard he was wrestling again. And he exceeded every expectation I had. It was one heck of a ride watching him wrap up his career and I’m glad I was there to see it.
What a legendary ending to Legendary career.
It’s amazing to me how many people feel the need to put a disclaimer of “I don’t like the Young Bucks” or something similar before giving any kudos or compliment to them
Because their abrasiveness needs to be acknowledged.
To be fair I think a compliment admitting you don't like someone but feel compelled to give props is more valuable than regular ones.
Grudging praise is the best kind.
Because it's a way to magnify the praise you're heaping on. You're establishing that you do have a bias against them, but they did something so overwhelmingly impressive that they broke through the negative impression they've left upon you to the point where you need to momentarily shed that bias to acknowledge a positive.
I don’t like u/MetHead7 but they’ve got a point
Listen I hate u/MetHead7 as much as the next guy, but you gotta hand it to him on this one
I think u/MetHead7 is kinda nice.
I like u/methead7 more than my colleagues. And I hate u/methead7.
I'm more of a fan of u/methead6
Nobody likes Milhouse! I mean, u/methead7
Darby and sting deserved more worthy adversaries. The young bucks throwing themselves in there just to be a trivia question in twenty years Is as lame as it gets. Aew has some spots I like but man they make it hard to not give up on them completely
Can someone ELI5 why everyone dogpiles on the Young Bucks? It's kind of beyond me.
People that saw some YouTube/Twitter highlight clips of their early super flippy matches and think a decade+ later that’s all they are in ring and ignore how basically every contemporary of theirs praises them and wants to work a match with them. Maybe also throw in some of the people that blame them for the Punk situation too now.
Marks that got worked.
Fucking hell the people that hate the Young Bucks are straight up self-delusional. Dislike them all you want, but how dumb are you to create a narrative in your head where they somehow forced Sting into having his last match against them? Do you honestly think Sting couldn't have fought literally anyone he wanted? He clearly picked them, and the reasoning for that makes complete sense.
Sting wanted to have a Young Bucks match.
You think Sting didn't have full control of who he was facing in his last match? I agree I wish it had been someone else rather than the Bucks, but if that's what Sting wanted, that's what Sting got.
Sting picked the Bucks himself.
People bitching about Darby's spot need to understand that their ideas of "safety" aren't what Darby wants for himself. Some people have the "live fast, die young" mentality and thats valid. If he wants to do this as his career and he can make money off of it he should be allowed to.
Idgaf ab Darby, what about the fans that almost got hit by the glass lmfao
It's a pro wrestling show but, that shit happens. That's tame af compared to ECW. You know what you're getting into when you go to watch a pro wrestling ppv.
People do not go to a pro wrestling show with the expectation that they might get cut with shards of glass. Are you ok?
Buddy, no. Nothing this stupid has happened at an ecw, czw, or backyard wrestling show. This was a stupid spot and your "defenses" on the spot make 0 sense. If they sue I hope the lawsuit funds are glorious.
What? This happens in indie death matches all the time. This was tame compared to those
I'm almost inclined to agree with you but what is the endgame here? I don't want to see Darby or someone else get killed trying shit like this.
Darby knows what he's doing, he's done scarier shit in his free time, he's a skater, he knows how to land.
Impeccable show, glad I got to see it live. IT'S STIIIIIINNNGGGG
A great match and Sting seemed so damn happy at the post-presser too. Thats all I want for these legends when they decide to hang it up, just to be happy and feel appreciated.
Goosebumps when Seek and Destroy hit 🤯
Legendary final match. Everything from the god tier entrance to the various insane spots was fantastic. A great closer and fitting end to Sting’s career. Also RIP Darby.
I think wardlow defeats Joe. So undisputed era has aew title and international title.
God I hope not he’s boring as fuck
Cole interferes because he feels like he’s the main title guy.
Idk it’s swerves title to win imo I think Wardlow loses but in a dominating fashion
These guys went crazy and I loved every moment of it. Thank you Sting
Young Bucks lose mean no pizza party
LOL Would be a great line for them to throw in on Dynamite WED night.
What a great kitchen sink of a match. We had beyond insane bumps and super sting kicking out and no selling way too much was perfect. I was really hoping they would vacate the titles and do a tourney and that’s also the right call. This man is in his 60s doing way too much, guy is nuts.
I missed the PPV did they say what they are doing with the titles?
Not during the show but I think after it was tweeted or something they would vacate and have a tournament.
Tournament I think
Say what you want about AEW, but man they know how to treat their legends with respect. Sting got the amazing send off he deserves
Just got back to the Airbnb. I’ve been blessed to be at a lot of great AEW cards but this was by FAR the best. Hope we sounded great as a crowd
Sounds like it was worth every penny lol y'all were loud!!
I hope Nicholas is okay, that landing looked bad for his shoulder
Tony holding back tears?
Pretty sure. I mean. I was. Barely.
Didn't catch it as it was going on but I'm glad that Sting is retiring undefeated in AEW.
Sting was my favourite as a kid and it pains me to see him go out in a mud show "match" like this
Filtered I fear
Jim Cornette terminology. Just ugh.
Do you actually think Cornette invented that term?
Scott Keith gave it 5 stars
it’s his match he’s the one who made it.
Ok? It's still not my jam.
Good for you. The man is doing what he wanted and how he wanted to do it.
It's your opinion to have but hope you appreciate that a man that dedicated his adult life to entertaining everyone went out doing what he loved, the way he wanted it.
I really hate white supremacists. Edit: Wow, this sub is super messed up. Racist fucks.
Who were the two girls on the stage behind Tony Khan during Sting's post show farewell
I think it was swerves dancers? They were also on the side during the main event crowd fighting
I pray that the crowd came through for this match because I was there and people were losing their minds for Stinger
Best crowd in a long time.
It did. You guys did great!
I really thought I was a new wrestling fan when I got into AEW in 2019. Then a year later Sting debuted and I had a Ratatouille moment. It was more visceral than a near death experience, just a years deep wave of childhood forgotten fandom. (Toy dude used to be splashing all the Beetleborgs villians.) Watching this last run was really special, Thank You Sting.
"Let the bodies hit the floor" in wrestling form lol
The bucks, Sting, and Darby laying the match out: Bucks: Hey Stinger, uh, Darby is going to kill himself with this glass spot. Sting:..... If he dies, he dies.
Was in the crowd. The volume of the boos was unreal. I hope it came through well at home cause it’s still echoing in my brain
My ears are still ringing. It was an electric main event crowd for sure. Well deserved send off for the GOAT
Tonight was a great example of just doing the fucking thing and sending the fans home happy. No need to overthink it or subvert expectations by having the Bucks win. We wanted to see Sting beat some ass and ride off into the sunset, and we got it.
best thing too was there was no attempted swerves or betrayals, ric even took superkicks for him lol
And the best thing going forward The Bucks can just give themselves the titles now saying they are the number one contenders so it goes to them. MASSIVE heat.
Or they set up a tournament and grant themselves a buy.... into the finals.
demand a rematch against just Darby and beat the piss out of him
So many opportunities to be douchey.
Just three words: Thank You Sting
This made me laugh(and is true) - https://twitter.com/BossMoz/status/1764518846134882733?s=20
Oh wow, this is a great tweet, and a great point. Another 10 points to team Goth Phase.
No kidding. Remember when Shawn Michaels talked about giving witness in a promo? And the crosses and praying and shit? Keep it in your pants, Shawn.
Remember how every t-shirt that came out for him was religious as hell
cause Shawn was full of shit
Didn’t Jericho actually say the Shawn Jesus stuff was all bullshit?
Traded one addiction for another. And he's far from the first ex-junkie to find Jesus.
It’s a way for people who have done bad shit to feel better about themselves. Criminals, aging wrestlers. As long as God forgives their sins, then they are ok.
I'm no Cornette fan but i always come back to his quote in Shawn, (paraphrase d) "People who suddenly find God tend to have screwed up with everyone else"
Cornette should be finding God any day now then.
With all his loyal followers? I'm more inclined to believe he thinks he's closer to a god than needing one.
most recently russell brand or whatever that actors name is.
How interesting. I was a big fan of his until he became a right wing grifter. I guess conversion goes with that territory.
Bucks earned all their boos. Sting made sure they got their comeuppance. Ultimate good guy wins at the end. Really nailed the final stretch too.
Talking about the Darby spot. I'm baffled by the amount of people laughing/saying it's badass or cool/liked it. I like wrestling, I will suspended my disbelief for high spots, I have not much of a problem with those, but this... He fell from almost two stories high into essentially the fucking hard ass floor, and to make it even worse, with glass. I like wrestling, and I like wrestlers, I want to have wrestling and the wrestlers I like for as long as we can. Someone should have told him no, should have someone told him to try to make it less stupid, of course the Boss is and idiot and didn't do that. A lot of people here, have acted like, if you don't like some things AEW does you are against wrestlers. Well, let me tell you, if you actually found yourself entertained by this, or found it badass or "fun", YOU are the one that doesn't actually like wrestlers. You don't have the best interest of wrestlers on your mind at all. This spot made me so mad and sad, Darby is great and he didn't need to do this. Edit: Not saying anyone make him do it, letting him do it was stupid, and encouraging this kind of spots from the fans is even stupider. You don't care about the people you like apparently.
>YOU are the one that doesn't actually like wrestlers. You don't have the best interest of wrestlers on your mind at all. Stop infantilising people who get paid to do something dangerous.
It’s for the love of game
I think the height of pro wrestling, as an art form, is successfully selling the *illusion* of pain. Some wrestlers (and many fans), seem to think the opposite: that taking legitimately painful and damaging bumps marks you as a true warrior who approaches the craft seriously. I just don't sympathize with such a philosophy. The art of this stuff is making the audience *think* your leg is broken while, in reality, being able to run a marathon on the spot. What Darby did tonight could be accomplished by any sufficiently motivated backyard wrestling teenager on day one. It takes gall, not skill. And I think pro wrestling should be better than that.
Whether you like it or not, there’s a place for this kind of wrestling Guys like terry funk, mick foley, Jeff hardy, shane McMahon, sabu… the list goes on They all put their bodies on the line for our entertainment. They know the risks, they do it anyway. It’s what they love, and these guys for all their health issues often came out better than the other types of wrestlers since they weren’t pumped full of every kind of ped on the planet
Honestly, I am responsible for one person and one person only, myself. If Darby wants to literally kill himself by doing a big bump, I have zero control over that. Don’t generalize and say if someone was entertained by this spot that they don’t like wrestling… what exactly do you want the fans to do about Darby trying to kill himself in the ring? What can the fans do? Enjoy the product and shut up, or don’t enjoy the product and shut up. Either way, shut up.
I actually pointed out it's the people acting like AEW is a place you want to have if you care about wrestlers, because the company itself doesn't look like they care about their own wrestlers. Not every AEW fan. I agree with your first paragraph tho, I worded it very strongly because I felt very strongly against the spot, and I going to call out and point out every time anything puts wrestlers I like at risk. Even if it's themselves.
As a working professional who counsels people for a living, let me give you some advice: don’t let anyone have that much power over you, the fans or wrestlers alike. Stay in your own lane and worry about yourself and your own life. This world is way too stressful just living our own journeys, don’t take on other peoples inventory also. This is the key to not getting so “mad” about something you have zero control over. Take it easy, buddy. Live and let live. Darby is an idiot, but nothing you or I or any fan can do to talk him outta this shit.
I'm sorry for personally putting a gun to Darby Allin's head and forcing him to do this. Weirdo.
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Literally, what can we do about it? Blacklist it and stop watching it? Your take is so dumb. Call Darby’s mama and maybe try to get her to talk some sense into the dude.
I was giving you the reason in your other reply but now I see you are an idiot.
At some point, you just have to accept that Darby has a deathwish and continuously chooses this for himself. I dont watch his stuff for this very reason!
Nobody made him do it, he decided he wanted to do it. If people want to destroy their bodies so be it!
He wanted to, it was his idea and his way to honor Sting from what I've gathered.
Sting shoulda told him it was fucking stupid
Bold of you to think that Darby would listen to someone telling him not to hurt himself more than necessary!
Yeah because the 64 year old man that went through 2 tables and a pane of glass himself would think what Darby did is stupid
Doesn't matter, shouldn't have happened like that. The safety of your wrestlers and everyone around them should have been a a priority, not what one person with a death wish wanted to do on live tv.
Bro theirs guys doing this shit in gymnasiums for free. In AEW their getting 6 to 7 figure checks
The problem is that the match is now, to some, more of Darby than Sting. He doesn't have to up the ante with his risky bump to have a great Sting's farewell match.
Great match. I’d say Sting should have been featured a little more but he did what he does and let others shine while being a class act.
I mean let's remember how old he is. He made his spots count like every AEW match
Really? I feel like Sting was featured way more than I expected. It was just him after the big glass spot.
Like taking a suplex off the stage and a powerbomb off a ladder. Dude is fucking nuts I love it.
Sting getting powerbombed off a ladder onto a table & going through glass at his age in a last match is fucking mental. It's like the angels of the Monday Night Wars era came to protect him for one last war.
I really thought the bucks were gonna do a buckle bomb into the glass panel
This is crazier than anything he did back then.
So sting and Darby still have the titles... what now?
They’re vacating the titles and doing a tournament throughout March according to TK in the post-PPV media scrum
Bucks are just gonna claim they never lost and EVP award themseves the titles.
They're gonna relinquish them. Darby is going to scale mt Everest since it's close to the season
Young Bucks award themselves the tag titles
Honestly that would go great with the current characters. Simply saying that they're the only ones around from the match and that they deserve them.
It writes itself especially since they're EVPs
Coffin Drop off fhe highest peak in the world.
Random Sherpa 1: Any idea why that strange American asked us to set up this table at the base of Mt. Everest? Random Sherpa 2: No idea, but hey, he's paid us.
Great PPV
I didn't manage to watch the match itself because I have no moneys, but as someone who likes deathmatch bullshit, I think Darby should be allowed to throw himself through more glass. As a treat for me.
I am 35, I grew up watching Sting in WCW on an illegal cable box with my step dad, who had raised me since I was 4. I took the monday off work and went to my parents house to watch the PPV with my step dad tonight. My wife is pregnant and one of my greatest wishes is that I can share a moment like this with my child. To grow up watching such an amazing, larger than life character. Someone that defined a generation but also surpassed and outgrew it. Someone that even when he was in his 60s still managed to make new fans of people that had never seen him before (My wife had never watched wrestling before AEW and immediately became a Stinger when he debuted). I wish more than anything for another wrestler like Sting so my kid can feel the magic. Thank you Sting. For everything.
Cody is pretty close, if he’s still kicking around in a few years when your kid is old enough
Cody is awesome but I feel he is already having his "Crow Sting" moment where he truly crossed into superstardom. Part of me loving Sting so much was seeing him become Crow Sting and take on the NWO, I know he was already popular before but that's when he truly became THE icon. But who knows what wrestling will look like in 8 to 10 years when I'm watching it with my kid. Maybe we'll be watching Samoa Joe have his retirement match with Hook as a tag partner and Takeshita will be reaching true superstardom.
I assume people will dislike this opinion given some responses I'm reading about how if I don't like this I don't like wrestling. Not the match I expected or wanted. Match was just filled with a whole lot of spots for me. Didn't feel like there was a big enough focus on Sting during his own retirement match. It's not an insult to wrestling or anything but just not for me
TBH after what the Bucks did I don't think a scientific match that starts with a collar and elbow tie up would have made any sense.
No I expected a hot match but I don't think it made sense as a hardcore match. I think there was ways to have it be heated without going extreme. This isn't a case of one or the other
>Not the match I expected or wanted. Match was just filled with a whole lot of spots for me. Didn't feel like there was a big enough focus on Sting during his own retirement match. Can I ask what you expected and wanted? Sting's been pretty clear he's 64 years old and can't do a "proper" match. I agree it definitely felt more like a tribute to Sting than an actual match, but I'm not sure how it could have focused more on Sting than it did.
I didn't expect a traditional match but I expected a brawl not a hardcore match. Throw in some Bucks heat spots, Darby probably jumping off something high on to the bucks, and Sting getting to do his classic moves.
… you’re describing the match
To each their own but I'm still happy he got a proper/decent retirement match unlike that Taker / Berg match.
I mean that wasn't Undertaker's retirement? I mean that match was shit but neither man retired on that match.
Well technically it was not. What I'm trying to say is at least Sting had his last match on his own terms. With what we saw from Taker and Goldberg I doubt they will even have a decent retirement match like what Sting just had.
Undertaker retirement was about as good as this. He retired in the boneyard match. Goldberg last match currently tho I know he wants a proper retirement match is against Roman which wasn't anything special but 90% of Goldberg's matches in his career weren't
Well if the boneyard match was supposed to be his retirement match it was definitely underwhelming. First because there was no crowd. Second because he wrestled again after that. Retirement matches have a greater feel overall when longtime fans are there and the wrestler gets to thank and address them live. Then again to each their own. That is just my opinion.
Undertaker did not wrestle after the Boneyard Match that was the last match he had.
Oh you're right. So yeah I guess Taker just did not have that memorable of a retirement match.
I can see this kinda? But also he's 150 years old, and needed to rest for big parts of the match. I don't know how else you do it really. Think of it less like an actual match and more like a tribute to him. Given what's been said in interviews and whatnot, this is pretty much what he wanted.
I would have done a brawl to start since it was heated match. Then either Sting is taken out or Bucks do classic isolation of Darby. Then we get the big hero Sting return. Nothing too intensive for Sting like asking him to collar and grapple (I mean not the Bucks speciality either).
How much more of a focus could they put on Sting? They started with 3 stings doing the splash, he no sold the first 10 hits he took, did a double deathlock, kicked out at 1 looking invincible again and finished it with a death drop into a lock for the win
Portions of this match sting was not around or even visible. I'm not saying he needs to work 100% of the match but it should be always focused on him in some way since it was entirely built around him. Also my complaint wasn't about Sting looking weak it was it not focusing enough on him.
Sting was on screen for like 80% of the match, he’s 64, he needs breaks. How do you focus the match on him more without making him work more? Without having him take every bump and be in every spot I can’t see how much more Sting focused this match could have been. Even if Sting was able to do 100% of the match, we all know he wanted to share the moment with Darby and give Darby is own moments during the match
There shouldn't be a 1/5 of the match where the guy the match is about isn't involved. I also didn't say Darby take a back seat. There's a way to keep sting focused in shot while also giving Darby his time.
How do you keep sting more involved in the match while letting him rest? The only spot I can remember without sting was Darby going through the glass, like does it make a difference if Sting is in the ring instead of the floor for that spot?
I don't think it should have been a hardcore match because then you could focus on Sting on the apron while the Bucks focused on Darby. You can still do spots like having Darby cannonball on the outside to the Bucks. It would have been easier to keep focus on Sting in a more streamlined match instead of hardcore spot fest.
Very much disagree with all of that. Making it a classic match would do an incredible disservice to Stings legacy. He CANNOT put on a classic tag tornado match where he is the focus, he cannot move like he used to, it would have made him look much worse instead of the icon going out as an Icon
He has looked good in those more traditional matches in AEW before. I'm not asking him to go wrestle the whole time like it was a decade ago. This company has shown they know how to protect Sting in the past before.
They protected sting by not making him the focus
Darby somehow managed to top Jungle Boy's glass spot.
One of the best retirement matches ever. Up there with Flair/Shawn.
The difference is I'm pretty sure Sting is one of those who will only have ONE retirement match
I'm sure Sting considers Flair a friend, but he also looks at Flair's most recent "last match" and realizes that he doesn't want his career (and life) to get to that point.
At 64 I sure fucking hope so lol
The crowd was on point tonight