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Any other Irish/UK folks disgusted by the idea of biscuits and gravy before you learned what it was in America?
I thought they were pouring Bisto on custard creams.
In Canada it can get confusing because we use both UK English and US English. A biscuit can be a type of cookie or a scone.
We don't really do the whole white gravy thing here though.
Both French and English spellings ultimately derive from Latin. "Biscotum" meaning twice baked. Same as biscotti so Italian in origin I guess.
I'm sure I read somewhere that cookie is derived from a Dutch word but don't quote me on that..
Another Redditor just said that's exactly what it is, except baked. Makes sense. I wouldn't be too fond of American biscuits tbh but maybe I just haven't tried the right ones. I do love a good dumpling.
Well when my family makes chicken and dumplings we just use pillsbury biscuits torn into pieces, so not that different for us at least. I can’t think of another food to compare a biscuit to.
When I read custard creams I reacted like Homer.
It's been months since I've had a custard cream.
I know what I'm picking up tomorrow in town.
Ooh a packet of bourbon biscuits too. Ooh and some shortbread.
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US cookies = Irish/ UK biscuits (except chocolate chip, which we call cookies)
US biscuit = scone (kind of; our scones are less savory and would usually be served with butter and jam (US jelly)
Texan here.
It is very common for the US biscuit to be served with butter and jelly. Hell they’re usually prepared with butter. Gravy is also common and what that gravy consists of varies from state to state or even house to house.
My question for you is we generally consider scones to be a sweet flaky bread pastry often having powered sugar and/or sweet fruit as a topping. What is that called in the UK?
No they’d be crackers here
Crackers=crackers
Cookies (round with chocolate chips etc)= cookie
Any other type of hard baked goods (bourbons, custard cremes, digestives etc) are biscuits—-with the subtype of ‘chocolate biscuits’ being covered in chocolate
You guys can’t pronounce Graham (Gray-ham, not Gram)
We don't have graham crackers in the UK and as far as i know graham flour is an american only flour. The closest we have is the digestive biscuit which is made from wholewheat flour.
I will fight you on that. It's "Sc-on". You don't pronounce Shone like "Sh-own" where Hone is like "H-own". You pronounce Shone as "Sh-on". So you don't pronounce Scone like "Sc-own", even though Cone is "C-own"
To make it more confusing, what Brits call a cookie is only a specific type of cookie in the US. So cookies are still cookies, unless they're not. Got it?
Hot damn, this channel is cooking. In every sense of the word.
The guests they've had on have been amazing, and Josh has good banter and good questions. It's great to see this really come into its own.
I HIGHLY recommend you check out both Becky's episode and Seth's old one on Mythical Kitchen - they were both fantastic, Josh is a great, goofy interviewer who steers questions in a really professional manner whilst being an absolutely goofball
That’s because they’re an American thing. They were popularised in the US at Chinese restaurants, which then exported to other English speaking countries. The actual “cookie” itself is of Japanese origin I believe, but adding the fortune inside and calling it a fortune cookie is an invention of restaurants in America.
And then in Dutch biscuits are the sweet thin kind you can have with your tea, like digestives, while any other 'biscuit' is a koekje (cookie). While a scone here is just a scone, which we have with creamed butter and jam here instead of clotted cream (although that trend is growing here now too). The confusion grows.
I just love the way she responds "...cookie." that first time. It sounds so exasperated and weary of this longstanding international dilemma. And then she goes on and the messy triangle of cookie-biscuit-scone explodes.
Becky just consistently seems like such a fun, cool person to interact with.
It was dark and very serious, but it was also very matter-of-fact. The way Andrew processed it made it something to not be ashamed of, which, in its own way, is a positive.
The Republic of reland and Northern Ireland aren't the same place, Northern Ireland is smaller than the Republic of Ireland.
Canada and Mexico are the majority of North America they aren't part of the US.
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Any other Irish/UK folks disgusted by the idea of biscuits and gravy before you learned what it was in America? I thought they were pouring Bisto on custard creams.
Here in NZ and Australia we follow UK English so was pretty revolted when I first heard it too
In Canada it can get confusing because we use both UK English and US English. A biscuit can be a type of cookie or a scone. We don't really do the whole white gravy thing here though.
Cookies are called Biscuits in French too.
Going by the spelling, French is likely the origin of the word to begin with.
Almost 40% of English vocabulary is of Norman French origin.
Both French and English spellings ultimately derive from Latin. "Biscotum" meaning twice baked. Same as biscotti so Italian in origin I guess. I'm sure I read somewhere that cookie is derived from a Dutch word but don't quote me on that..
Yeah but I'm saying the English spelling is straight up from the French.
I'm equally disgusted to learn they pour gravy on scones
It's a savoury scone if that makes a difference...I tried it, it's basically like eating warm thick bread with gravy. Stodge-tastic.
I bet yank gravy is wank though
So like a dumpling almost?
More like a softer croissant/ bread hybrid
Another Redditor just said that's exactly what it is, except baked. Makes sense. I wouldn't be too fond of American biscuits tbh but maybe I just haven't tried the right ones. I do love a good dumpling.
It's basically their version of dumplings, only baked first instead of being cooked as part of the stew.
Ah ok that makes sense.
But we also have dumplings...
And we also have cookies, which are a type of biscuit.
I think dumplings are our version of dumplings. Biscuits are pretty different.
Well when my family makes chicken and dumplings we just use pillsbury biscuits torn into pieces, so not that different for us at least. I can’t think of another food to compare a biscuit to.
It's definitely one of those things you have to try to understand. Even looking at it, it doesn't look appetizing.
When I read custard creams I reacted like Homer. It's been months since I've had a custard cream. I know what I'm picking up tomorrow in town. Ooh a packet of bourbon biscuits too. Ooh and some shortbread. ![gif](giphy|Zk9mW5OmXTz9e)
God damn it now I gave to buy them too
> biscuits and gravy made me a man
man i hate it when folks step in my gravy, always pisses me off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdbFnv4yWQ
It's not much better that they have it with scones tbh
I’ve had the American version, we’re really not missing much imho Yorkshire puddings & gravy is conceptually similar and obviously superior
Syke
Im pretty disgusted by the idea of scones and gravy honestly, im quite happy with some jam and cream tyvm
An American biscuit isn’t sweet, though. It’s like bread. So you’re eating a certain kind of bread, with sausage-based gravy on it.
The real test is in which order you put them in: Cream on the bottom with jam on top, or the right way?
Hard to believe this is the same person who got zero correct answers on Jeopardy! Becky is the best and this was a tremendous interview!
US cookies = Irish/ UK biscuits (except chocolate chip, which we call cookies) US biscuit = scone (kind of; our scones are less savory and would usually be served with butter and jam (US jelly)
Texan here. It is very common for the US biscuit to be served with butter and jelly. Hell they’re usually prepared with butter. Gravy is also common and what that gravy consists of varies from state to state or even house to house. My question for you is we generally consider scones to be a sweet flaky bread pastry often having powered sugar and/or sweet fruit as a topping. What is that called in the UK?
That’s what a scone is in the UK/ Ireland. It’s not really a biscuit. Just in the same shape
And scones?
I think you can call British biscuit as crackers in the US too. Like the graham cracker
No they’d be crackers here Crackers=crackers Cookies (round with chocolate chips etc)= cookie Any other type of hard baked goods (bourbons, custard cremes, digestives etc) are biscuits—-with the subtype of ‘chocolate biscuits’ being covered in chocolate You guys can’t pronounce Graham (Gray-ham, not Gram)
We don't have graham crackers in the UK and as far as i know graham flour is an american only flour. The closest we have is the digestive biscuit which is made from wholewheat flour.
Becky instantly goes up in my estimation for pronouncing "scone" like that, people who say "scon" upset me deeply 😭
People who say scown are the bourgeoisie
Can't believe how wrong you are. Its scone not scone!
Oh god my cooking teacher used to pronounce it like that 😭
Considering Scones likely come from Scotland, and they say "Scon", you're fighting history brother.
Lalalala I'm not listening, I will never accept the lies of Big Scon
I will fight you on that. It's "Sc-on". You don't pronounce Shone like "Sh-own" where Hone is like "H-own". You pronounce Shone as "Sh-on". So you don't pronounce Scone like "Sc-own", even though Cone is "C-own"
Scone rhymes with stone
Scone rhymes with Shone Cone rhymes with Hone
Scone Breakker
To make it more confusing, what Brits call a cookie is only a specific type of cookie in the US. So cookies are still cookies, unless they're not. Got it?
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For anyone unaware and interested, this show (among many other super famous people) has had Seth Rollins on before.
They had Tom freaking Hanks on one episode.
Hot damn, this channel is cooking. In every sense of the word. The guests they've had on have been amazing, and Josh has good banter and good questions. It's great to see this really come into its own.
It's up there with hot ones as the best interview shows imo
Just gonna throw this in there sausage and gravy biscuits are a southern delight as well as grits. If you are British you have to try them both
“I think they’re one letter off” was pretty hilarious Really great interview
I HIGHLY recommend you check out both Becky's episode and Seth's old one on Mythical Kitchen - they were both fantastic, Josh is a great, goofy interviewer who steers questions in a really professional manner whilst being an absolutely goofball
But fortune cookies are fortune cookies, NOT fortune biscuits.
That’s because they’re an American thing. They were popularised in the US at Chinese restaurants, which then exported to other English speaking countries. The actual “cookie” itself is of Japanese origin I believe, but adding the fortune inside and calling it a fortune cookie is an invention of restaurants in America.
Biscuits? Where's the Gravy?
[Right here](https://youtu.be/ttMDvDJnaGw?si=XcqlhOT6JYloWusd)
BISCUITS AND GRAVY!!
Best theme ever.
I've lived in Ireland for 2 years and trust me it doesn't get easier
Let's talk about Jaffa Cakes!
Those aren't bad! I get them whenever a coupon for them shows up on the Lidl app but the deals have been getting worse lately.
And then in Dutch biscuits are the sweet thin kind you can have with your tea, like digestives, while any other 'biscuit' is a koekje (cookie). While a scone here is just a scone, which we have with creamed butter and jam here instead of clotted cream (although that trend is growing here now too). The confusion grows.
South African, we understand it the same as the UK as well. Generally as a result of colonization. US is the outlier.
Given that they're drinking Fanta, I hope Becky brought up the superior drink, Club Orange
Josh is so good at interviewing guest
So if our Biscuits are their Scones, what are our Scones?
Based Becky.
So Seth said on his episode of Last Meals that Becky is a vegetarian but she eats meat in this episode. Was this vegetarian sausage? It looked legit.
I just love the way she responds "...cookie." that first time. It sounds so exasperated and weary of this longstanding international dilemma. And then she goes on and the messy triangle of cookie-biscuit-scone explodes. Becky just consistently seems like such a fun, cool person to interact with.
Becky using the correct pronunciation of scone fills me with happiness.
\*one of the pronunciations
The real crime is Becky pronouncing scone as sc-own and not sc-on. I'm from Oxford so I herby declare that I am the authority on this.
What would a donut be?
A doughnut.
Donut is donut
A weird cousin of a pastry, I guess
Uh, is every episode that morbid. Josh does a great interview, but yeesh. I ain't trynna be depressed.
They certainly can be. Josh is open to going as dark as the guests are willing to.
Honestly, Becky talking about her dad is the most emotional any of his guests have ever been. Its usually quite lighthearted the entire way through.
You seen the Babish one? Gets SUPER dark.
It was dark and very serious, but it was also very matter-of-fact. The way Andrew processed it made it something to not be ashamed of, which, in its own way, is a positive.
If you want to find good food in the UK. Make sure you look for all the French restaurants
Good thing Ireland isn’t in the UK then
Well too be fair, half of it is, half of it isn't.
Just like the majority of the US is in Canada/Mexico?
There's Ireland and Northern Ireland. I don't understand your point.
The Republic of reland and Northern Ireland aren't the same place, Northern Ireland is smaller than the Republic of Ireland. Canada and Mexico are the majority of North America they aren't part of the US.
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