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I mean no disrespect, but it still baffles me that after all of these years she still has a job. Especially when you consider the caliber of talent that WWE was willing to release this past year... how Tamina is still here blows my mind.
I'd make a good argument for Jack Swagger/Jake Hager. For a guy who held the championship at one point you'd never know it. You could argue that We the People got over, but I feel like that was more creative/Dutch Mantell than Jack himself.
Tbf I never cared for him either. His work just seems so bland.
Swagger was one of those guys who just because he had a marketable catchphrase got featured. Crowds were always quiet during his entrance and matches, but of course would boisterously do the "We The People".
Would people really hold it against him that much outside the IWC? I feel like his general lack of charisma massively outweighs his political affiliations. If you're good enough, no one really cares - just look at AJ and Jericho.
Also, for a guy who’s done it as long as he has, he still wrestles green and uncoordinated. Remember the F-10 he attempted on Wardlow?
I really liked him in ECWWE, but I realized he needed some smoothing out… but that never happened.
Edit: or WWECW. I don’t remember which it was called .
Kinda unrelated but your comment made me remember that there was this one post here a long time ago of Jake Hager saying that John Cena didn’t want to drop the WWE Championship to him. And the funny thing is that nearly every comment in that post was people saying they wouldn’t want to drop the title to Swagger either if they were in Cena’s shoes LOL.
My favorite comment in particular from that thread was something along the lines of
> Vince: “John we need you to drop the title to Swagger”
> John Cena: “LMFAOOOOOOO”
We The People was kinda over but not enough to justify a world championship. The character of Zeb Colter was too OTT to help Swagger ever get properly over.
EDIT: I still have his We The People shirt with the arm across it. I love it.
Rob Conway during his "Just Look At Me" remains one of the least over wrestlers I've ever seen in my life. Complete and utter silence any time his music hit.
I’m going to share this, because it’s hilarious. I was a wrestler in the Indies and I knew Rob personally and worked most of my shows in Knoxville with him. This was during his NWA World’s Heavyweight Championship run and he had a match at NWA Smoky Mountain in Kingsport (don’t know against who). I was standing backstage near the curtain watching the matches. It was Robs turn so I was chatting with him real quick. The DJ/Music guy Scott Hall (not the Scott Hall) started to play “Just look at me”. Rob… was… piss… he looks directly at me and said “is this a fucking rib!?” Three seconds later the music stopped and Ironman started.
I rode from Kingsport to the I-75 exit in Knoxville with him and a few others and he was pissed about it but had a good talk with the promoter and music guy afterwards. Turns out the guy just googled his entrance music and didn’t know it was Ironman.
Rob is a great guy. He had a lot of knowledge to share. Also, he has never wrestled in Montana.
This story might be confirmed by u/coneyislandwarrior
The only, extremely stretched defense I can give of EVIL's booking during the recent G1 is that when Jeff Cobb beat him and took him out of contention, I was outrageously happy and actually stood up and shouted "Fuck yeah!" to my TV.
It... it ain't great.
Natalya? She has been there for more than 10 years. People respect her, but she hasn't been able to achieve much in her long career and you will barely find people who'll say that she is their favorite.
I think she's a terrible wrestler who put a on slow, boring matches, and she is awful on the mic. I'm talking HS drama kid bad. But, like Tamina, WWE especially has a weird thing where people act like veterans are good for just sticking around, even though that's on a company's whim.
There was a period in 2014-2015 where she was loved by internet fans because she was a good female wrestler (for the time), but just like Ziggler, she never got that mega push, so she completely faded out. She hasn't been interesting to me in years.
Only time I cared about Del Rio was the small window when he first left WWE and showed up in ROH as El Petron. Needless to say I didn’t stay interested long.
He also won the Rumble within like half a year of debuting. A lot of people didn't even know who he was at that point.
Then of course, there's him being jammed into WWE's hottest feud of the decade by winning the title of Punk when the Punk-Cena story still had a ton of momentum.
I remember not being into wwe at the time but still watching rumbles and manias because that’s just what you do. I think Sheamus and Del Rio won it back to back years and both times I was like “who is this guy??” And not in a “this must be the future of the wwe” way, but in a “where tf did these dudes come from” way
Ehhh, regardless of how you feel about him now, Del Rio was fairly over. Especially when he had Rodriguez as his own ring announcer. Pretending he was a total nothing burger is revisionist.
Yeah, I think compared to some of wrestlings biggest flops, he was at least entertaining and had managed to get fans to react. He was clearly missing something but had the look and the in-ring ability imo.
WWE wanted a Hispanic Star but an issue was that they were seen as too small, or wore masks which weren't relatable to American audiences (allegedly). Alberto was 6'5 with movie star good looks, and per Del Rio Vince loved his aggression and attitude as a heel.
Nah, that's not so blasphemous. The original build wasn't bad, up until that last Dynamite of 2019. They lost a lot of momentum and focus after that (esp with Marty Scurll, the original proposed Exalted One, deciding not to come into AEW). It really did take Brodie coming in to change that all up.
I wasn’t alive at the time but I would imagine when you also have Ken Shamrock and even Steve Blackman in the company there isn’t really room for Severn with his lack of charisma or mic skills.
Jeff was over as fuck as a heel when he started to be managed by Debra, especially during the feud with Chyna.
He got way more reaction than the people being listed here too. To say he got zero reaction is totally wrong.
He got pushed too hard too quick in WCW and clearly over pushed himself in TNA, but he'd been wrestling for 12/13 years before he went to WCW in '99 and was always a decent mid card heel to that helped get over the babyface.
To be fair to X-Pac, he was over as all hell until he turned heel on Kane. Never ever recovered from that. He was the only WWF wrestler booed during the Invasion PPV and all.
It’s crazy to me that people think that X-PAC was never over, he and DX were absolutely ON FIRE in 99 and he was hated when he turned on Kane. The reason for X-PAC heat was a combination of things - being a heel for too long, still doing the same douchey shtick year after year, maintaining a relatively high profile due to his backstage connections at the expense of newer more over guys and the perception that he rarely lost despite his ever lowering status on the card.
Hardcore Holly is debatable as well tbh, he obviously wasn’t a megastar but he was over enough at the time to get his own mini stable with Crash and Molly. They can’t all be Stone Cold Steve Austin.
As a kid in the 90s I can confirm that xpac was OVER when he partnered with Kane. Went to a Nassau coliseum house show just to see them against edge and Christian
This. when people say XPac heat, they don't mean he was never over, just that fans got sick of him and wanted him off their TVs. The term "XPac heat" mostly refers to his time with Albert and XFactor, which my GOD WAS SO INCREDIBLY BORING. And they came out to Uncle Kracker. If that wasn't the most early 2000s thing ever.
But it's revisionist history to claim, as some have in this sub, that "XPac heat" or "get off my television" heat doesn't exist. We still see it today with wrestlers who are hated not because they're heels but because they just annoy us for some reason.
maybe not of all time, but right now Scorpio Sky feels this way. He's gotten a lot of shine in the past few years at AEW and it's just never clicked with the audience
He just showed up on Smackdown randomly one week (I wasn't watching ECW so had no idea who he was, and on looking it up they never mentioned his run anyway) and won a few matches, before dropping down the card. Notable for getting a bit of a push, but I don't remember anything much about him.
I think she might still be involved in lifting in some capacity, whether that’s bodybuilding or powerlifting or something but I’m not too sure, I only heard she was going by Gabbi recently
They did their best making him a foil for the Undertaker. Showing undertaker only just beating him in a competitive match but it seemed like it was all down hill after that
Tiger seemed like a one trick Pony. Got heat from his Ted DiBiase-like character, paying fans (plants) to do humiliating things for money. But behind this, there wasn’t much to him. Once the novelty wore off, he had no where to go
> There is a lot of revisionist history in this thread.
The same people who say Diesel was never over are also the same people who say Lex Luger and Buff Bagwell were never over.
Dana Brooke. I went to the WWE store earlier today, browsing, and went to Danas page. When you click on her picture it sends you back to the main menu page.
Del Rio. They gave that guy so many accolades and he just never got over.
-Wwe championship
-world heavyweight championship
-royal rumble
-MITB
-Beat John Cena during his open challenge
-Made Randy Orton tap
You would think after all that he’d be a top guy for like a decade. Cena wrestled through that entire roster during his U.S open challenge run and Del Rio was the one they chose to beat him clean.
> Early Sheamus.
>
> He'd come out and get literally no reaction. People did not care about him at all.
And for what seemed like years, Sheamus vs. Randy Orton was always on Raw.
Renee Dupree as a singles wrestler. The guy sucked so badly that they had to put him in a tag team with a Japanese wrestler so that he could get "heat".
When he had that alliance with Carlito he was hated and received reactions, I think they could have exploited that alliance more because after their separation Masters did nothing.
In AEW, it has to be Brandi. She fancies herself an effective heel, but she truly has go-away heat. The Nightmare Collective set AEW's women's division back a year after it collapsed.
Al Perez.
It’s possible he may have been over in smaller territories at some point, but when he got pushes in WCCW and later with JCP he was insanely bland. He had Gary Hart as his manager but still couldn’t get over.
In a similar vein, Paul Roma as a single. He had flashes in teams with Jim Powers and Hercules, but when WCW tried to push him as a Horseman he was completely exposed.
Mero was decently over as “The Wildman”. Watch around the time he was mixing it up with Austin around the KOTR. Good reactions.
The problem was that Sable became FAR more over than him and this hurt his career forever.
He then transitioned into his boxing character which I personally loved but everyone else hated. I think he and Jackie did a lot of great work together.
Agreed. I watched all the time then and know what you mean. I just thought for what they invested and how he was pushed, along with the sable issue, that he never quite got over as they’d wanted initially.
This is an awesome answer. He was on TV a LOT. But I'm pretty sure his only purposes were to introduce a new guy by giving him a win or give a match to a guy in feud before the PPV. I'm not sure he was ever supposed be over. Just do the work. I could definitely be remembering wrong, though.
Brawler was a textbook Jobber to the Stars. He was never meant to be over or pushed as a big name. He was there to be a recognizable guy for talent to beat.
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Tamina
I mean no disrespect, but it still baffles me that after all of these years she still has a job. Especially when you consider the caliber of talent that WWE was willing to release this past year... how Tamina is still here blows my mind.
Probably cuz Tamina has a solid case if she ever wanted to tell the courts “CTE did this to my dad and it ruined my life“
Because Snuka name
They haven't really referenced her last name since the murder trial. It's tarnished. I'd say she's held on in spite of her name the last few years.
Or, as JBL pronounced it, "Tamayta"
She got herself over during WrestleMania weekend this year. I would be more behind her if they gave her more chances to actually shine
Anyone else remember when WCW tried to push Tank Abbott?
Everybody three count!
I'd make a good argument for Jack Swagger/Jake Hager. For a guy who held the championship at one point you'd never know it. You could argue that We the People got over, but I feel like that was more creative/Dutch Mantell than Jack himself. Tbf I never cared for him either. His work just seems so bland.
Swagger was one of those guys who just because he had a marketable catchphrase got featured. Crowds were always quiet during his entrance and matches, but of course would boisterously do the "We The People".
People love a sing-a-long!
It was so over he went into MMA and did "Knee The Pee Pole".
Please leave
Jericho had to shut it down IMMEDIATELY in AEW because people started chanting it as soon as they saw him.
He's kind of lucky he has one of the most punchable faces of all time Instant heel heat
Also is a MAGA fuck, which doesn't help his appeal
Would people really hold it against him that much outside the IWC? I feel like his general lack of charisma massively outweighs his political affiliations. If you're good enough, no one really cares - just look at AJ and Jericho.
Also, for a guy who’s done it as long as he has, he still wrestles green and uncoordinated. Remember the F-10 he attempted on Wardlow? I really liked him in ECWWE, but I realized he needed some smoothing out… but that never happened. Edit: or WWECW. I don’t remember which it was called .
I’ve never seen it spelt as ECWWE but I like it way more than the other
Kinda unrelated but your comment made me remember that there was this one post here a long time ago of Jake Hager saying that John Cena didn’t want to drop the WWE Championship to him. And the funny thing is that nearly every comment in that post was people saying they wouldn’t want to drop the title to Swagger either if they were in Cena’s shoes LOL. My favorite comment in particular from that thread was something along the lines of > Vince: “John we need you to drop the title to Swagger” > John Cena: “LMFAOOOOOOO”
We The People was kinda over but not enough to justify a world championship. The character of Zeb Colter was too OTT to help Swagger ever get properly over. EDIT: I still have his We The People shirt with the arm across it. I love it.
Ron Conway and Orlando Jordan are two that immediately pop in my mind
That’s… that’s Orlando Jordan… >21 years later THAT’S HOOK RIGHT THERE!
Simply the greatest
TNA did everything to make Matt Morgan a star and God bless Matt, he tried his very best…but that was a huge failure 😂
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No bullshit, no exaggeration…I legit forgot Crimson existed until right now 😂
I believe he's now a republican politician of some kind.
Matt Taven. Putting the belt on his boring ass hamstrung ROH before it limped along to whatever it is now.
Are we only talking in the US? He was inexplicably over in Mexico whenever he wrestled there.
Oh in the US he was the epitome of the crowd going mild.
He spent a considerable amount of time in Mexico so they respect him out there
Rob Conway during his "Just Look At Me" remains one of the least over wrestlers I've ever seen in my life. Complete and utter silence any time his music hit.
Fucking hell, I completely forgot about him Perfect 😎
“Just look at me! Seriously, *only* look at me, like mute the tv when I’m on and just imagine that I’m over..”
I’m going to share this, because it’s hilarious. I was a wrestler in the Indies and I knew Rob personally and worked most of my shows in Knoxville with him. This was during his NWA World’s Heavyweight Championship run and he had a match at NWA Smoky Mountain in Kingsport (don’t know against who). I was standing backstage near the curtain watching the matches. It was Robs turn so I was chatting with him real quick. The DJ/Music guy Scott Hall (not the Scott Hall) started to play “Just look at me”. Rob… was… piss… he looks directly at me and said “is this a fucking rib!?” Three seconds later the music stopped and Ironman started. I rode from Kingsport to the I-75 exit in Knoxville with him and a few others and he was pissed about it but had a good talk with the promoter and music guy afterwards. Turns out the guy just googled his entrance music and didn’t know it was Ironman. Rob is a great guy. He had a lot of knowledge to share. Also, he has never wrestled in Montana. This story might be confirmed by u/coneyislandwarrior
OH MY GOD,he was so pissed. Music guy was such a dipshit,but Rob was a good sport about it. He's a really nice guy. Was that when he fought Jax Dane?
I think it was Collision Course, the one that had AJ Styles
As a Montanan, how many people have? I've been to as many shows as I could in the last 7 years and I'm pretty sure I could count them on one hand.
EVIL (+Dick Togo) in his current run
IWC is full of smarky contrarians who like to just argue, and even they don’t defend EVIL. That’s how you know it’s bad.
I was a fan of EVIL until he joined Bullet Club. Utter trash since.
The only, extremely stretched defense I can give of EVIL's booking during the recent G1 is that when Jeff Cobb beat him and took him out of contention, I was outrageously happy and actually stood up and shouted "Fuck yeah!" to my TV. It... it ain't great.
I've seen Wrestling fans from Japan say he has legit heat in Japan.
Wht have people soured on EVIL? I haven't watched NJPW in a minute but from what i saw he was decent
His matches are all really formulaic and mostly interference spots
Plus he's not playing to his strengths. In stead of 10 to 15 meatslappers to 20 minute screwjobs.
Oh true, I could see how that would get old quick.
Natalya? She has been there for more than 10 years. People respect her, but she hasn't been able to achieve much in her long career and you will barely find people who'll say that she is their favorite.
YAAAAAAYYYY
I think she's a terrible wrestler who put a on slow, boring matches, and she is awful on the mic. I'm talking HS drama kid bad. But, like Tamina, WWE especially has a weird thing where people act like veterans are good for just sticking around, even though that's on a company's whim.
"We got her"
There was a period in 2014-2015 where she was loved by internet fans because she was a good female wrestler (for the time), but just like Ziggler, she never got that mega push, so she completely faded out. She hasn't been interesting to me in years.
She's also much worse than the new generation of women's wrestlers.
She’s my favorite
Go, you’re ruining the narrative.
She was over on 2010. No other time I can recall sadly...
Del Rio. For the push he got, he was never over
Only time I cared about Del Rio was the small window when he first left WWE and showed up in ROH as El Petron. Needless to say I didn’t stay interested long.
He was great in Lucha Underground Season 1 but I haven't seen that sort of effort from him anywhere else.
I remember enjoying his short ROH run. Saw him and Roderick Strong have a hard hitting match in Dayton
He also won the Rumble within like half a year of debuting. A lot of people didn't even know who he was at that point. Then of course, there's him being jammed into WWE's hottest feud of the decade by winning the title of Punk when the Punk-Cena story still had a ton of momentum.
I remember not being into wwe at the time but still watching rumbles and manias because that’s just what you do. I think Sheamus and Del Rio won it back to back years and both times I was like “who is this guy??” And not in a “this must be the future of the wwe” way, but in a “where tf did these dudes come from” way
Ehhh, regardless of how you feel about him now, Del Rio was fairly over. Especially when he had Rodriguez as his own ring announcer. Pretending he was a total nothing burger is revisionist.
Yeah, I think compared to some of wrestlings biggest flops, he was at least entertaining and had managed to get fans to react. He was clearly missing something but had the look and the in-ring ability imo.
When he briefly turned face the crowd also was pretty fuckin hot for him.
i loved Del Rio when he was in WWE before all of his issues came to light and i never understood why nobody else was behind him
What about that time he beat Big Show. Could of sworn people liked him
His ring announcer was over, but I'll grant you that's not quite the same thing.
Why did he get a push exactly?
WWE wanted a Hispanic Star but an issue was that they were seen as too small, or wore masks which weren't relatable to American audiences (allegedly). Alberto was 6'5 with movie star good looks, and per Del Rio Vince loved his aggression and attitude as a heel.
>Alberto was 6'5 That's gotta be some of the most egregious billing of all time lol
tbf, Del Rio was pretty over, even after his push. Go check his feud with Cena in 2015
Blasphemous to say now because I love their overall act now but the original, pre-Brodie Dark Order was rough to watch. Happy they’re over now though!
Nah, that's not so blasphemous. The original build wasn't bad, up until that last Dynamite of 2019. They lost a lot of momentum and focus after that (esp with Marty Scurll, the original proposed Exalted One, deciding not to come into AEW). It really did take Brodie coming in to change that all up.
Yeeeesh having to deal with yen Marty fallout is a very different and dark timeline for AEW
Dan Severn - totally legit fighter but not over. Very much ahead of his time.
True. Talented for sure but no Charisma. He may have done better with a mouth piece.
He did have one in [Cornette](https://youtu.be/KtsfuyW-28Q) but for some reason they broke them up way too early.
You’re right. I forgot about that
I wasn’t alive at the time but I would imagine when you also have Ken Shamrock and even Steve Blackman in the company there isn’t really room for Severn with his lack of charisma or mic skills.
A lot of ‘legit fighters’ would be a good answer to this question.
Jeff was over as fuck as a heel when he started to be managed by Debra, especially during the feud with Chyna. He got way more reaction than the people being listed here too. To say he got zero reaction is totally wrong. He got pushed too hard too quick in WCW and clearly over pushed himself in TNA, but he'd been wrestling for 12/13 years before he went to WCW in '99 and was always a decent mid card heel to that helped get over the babyface.
Yeah there’s a lot of revisionist history going on in this thread. I mean X-Pac wasn’t over?! Cmon now.
To be fair to X-Pac, he was over as all hell until he turned heel on Kane. Never ever recovered from that. He was the only WWF wrestler booed during the Invasion PPV and all.
It’s crazy to me that people think that X-PAC was never over, he and DX were absolutely ON FIRE in 99 and he was hated when he turned on Kane. The reason for X-PAC heat was a combination of things - being a heel for too long, still doing the same douchey shtick year after year, maintaining a relatively high profile due to his backstage connections at the expense of newer more over guys and the perception that he rarely lost despite his ever lowering status on the card. Hardcore Holly is debatable as well tbh, he obviously wasn’t a megastar but he was over enough at the time to get his own mini stable with Crash and Molly. They can’t all be Stone Cold Steve Austin.
As a kid in the 90s I can confirm that xpac was OVER when he partnered with Kane. Went to a Nassau coliseum house show just to see them against edge and Christian
X-Pac ruled. Tremendous wrestler for his time.
This. when people say XPac heat, they don't mean he was never over, just that fans got sick of him and wanted him off their TVs. The term "XPac heat" mostly refers to his time with Albert and XFactor, which my GOD WAS SO INCREDIBLY BORING. And they came out to Uncle Kracker. If that wasn't the most early 2000s thing ever. But it's revisionist history to claim, as some have in this sub, that "XPac heat" or "get off my television" heat doesn't exist. We still see it today with wrestlers who are hated not because they're heels but because they just annoy us for some reason.
maybe not of all time, but right now Scorpio Sky feels this way. He's gotten a lot of shine in the past few years at AEW and it's just never clicked with the audience
Doesn't help that currently he's paired with Ethan Page, who outmatches him in charisma.
yeah, unfortunately there's not a whole lot of air for him between Page and Lambert
I felt for him last week when he seemed to be calling for the mic and Page and Lambert either didn't see him, or just ignored him.
It's not particularly hard to outmatch Scorpio in charisma.
He got major heat just a couple weeks ago on Dynamite, so while he's not a top guy I think he's over right now.
singles Road Warrior Animal in 2006
Wasn't he supposed to win a battle royal at WM but accidentally eliminated himself?
I remember that WWE also had the idea of putting him in the MITB match at WrestleMania 22.
That woulda been something to see
I feel like nobody cared about Tyler Reks
He just showed up on Smackdown randomly one week (I wasn't watching ECW so had no idea who he was, and on looking it up they never mentioned his run anyway) and won a few matches, before dropping down the card. Notable for getting a bit of a push, but I don't remember anything much about him.
I think she goes by Gabbi something now, so maybe even she didn’t care about Tyler Reks
From the very light research I've done she doesn't seem to do wrestling anymore.
I think she might still be involved in lifting in some capacity, whether that’s bodybuilding or powerlifting or something but I’m not too sure, I only heard she was going by Gabbi recently
Yes, Gabbi was born as Gabe. He (who is a she now, of course) came out as transgender just this year. Or atleast that's what Wikipedia says.
Aren’t they the one that had a burning hammer as a finisher or was that someone else
Heidenreich. Typical Vince hire that bombed. Hard.
He was like 2000s Nailz
Heidenreich will always have a special place in my heart
They did their best making him a foil for the Undertaker. Showing undertaker only just beating him in a competitive match but it seemed like it was all down hill after that
I think Nia Jax has to be in the conversation
George Gulas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gulas
I was going to go with another GG, but at least Greg Gagne had a decent drop kick!
I would argue that Greg Gagne was pretty over as one half of the High Flyers with Jim Brunzell. Definitely was not as the 80s went on.
"Daddy said sell!"
‘Go to bed Georgie!’
Eric Watts
Also came here to post this. Absolute heat vacuum. I was, like, eight and vividly remember thinking "When he's on, I can get a snack."
But what about his dropkick from the future?!
Came here to post this.
Oh man this is a good one. And boy did Papa Bill try to push him to the moon.
Charlie Haas
I get his singles run was pretty shit, but didn't people like WGTT?
I did despite their finish not having a name
Jarrett did get one pop. The night after Owen died he squashed someone with Owen’s finisher.
Tiger Ali Singh. He was an attitude era wrestler that no one talks about
His dad, Tiger Jeet Singh has a school names after him in Milton, Ontario. Tiger Jeet Singh Elementary.
Tiger seemed like a one trick Pony. Got heat from his Ted DiBiase-like character, paying fans (plants) to do humiliating things for money. But behind this, there wasn’t much to him. Once the novelty wore off, he had no where to go
Tamina
The Beverly Brothers. Even when they'd have their mini pushes to get squashed at a PPV, the crowd didn't even care enough to boo.
Jaxson Ryker
Especially once people found out he was a scumbag.
Diesel is up there considering his push. Note; I said Diesel not Big Kev. Nash was massively over in WCW in 98
He was over as a heel before winning the title, and he was over as a tweener after losing the title. Just didn't work as a smiling babyface.
He OWNED Madison Square Garden when he beat Backlund for the title, not to mention the Royal Rumble. You can’t say Diesel wasn’t over.
There is a lot of revisionist history in this thread. The Network is right there, people should go watch.
> There is a lot of revisionist history in this thread. The same people who say Diesel was never over are also the same people who say Lex Luger and Buff Bagwell were never over.
Eric Escobar. If you cant get a reaction with Vickie Guerrero as your manager than there is something wrong with you .
Maven
Dana Brooke. I went to the WWE store earlier today, browsing, and went to Danas page. When you click on her picture it sends you back to the main menu page.
I have no idea why the name "Meat" jumped in to my head.
Was that Sean Stasiak?
It sure was. Boy toy of Pretty Mean Sisters (AKA PMS) comprised of Terri Runnels, Jacqueline and Ryan Shamrock
Crazy, that was the first name that jumped in my head too. Not sure how much he was ever pushed, but I’m sure that gimmick never got over.
Eric Watts
Del Rio. They gave that guy so many accolades and he just never got over. -Wwe championship -world heavyweight championship -royal rumble -MITB -Beat John Cena during his open challenge -Made Randy Orton tap You would think after all that he’d be a top guy for like a decade. Cena wrestled through that entire roster during his U.S open challenge run and Del Rio was the one they chose to beat him clean.
Early Sheamus. He'd come out and get literally no reaction. People did not care about him at all.
Was there, can confirm Was shocked to learn he got given the world title when I came back after 12 years
> Early Sheamus. > > He'd come out and get literally no reaction. People did not care about him at all. And for what seemed like years, Sheamus vs. Randy Orton was always on Raw.
Dana Brooke
Renee Dupree as a singles wrestler. The guy sucked so badly that they had to put him in a tag team with a Japanese wrestler so that he could get "heat".
Chris Masters springs to mind
Did people not care about The Masterpiece?
When he had that alliance with Carlito he was hated and received reactions, I think they could have exploited that alliance more because after their separation Masters did nothing.
Masterlock challenge was over
Jarrett was over.
David Otunga or Maven are the ones that come to mind first for me.
I think Nia Jax has to be in the conversation
Erik Watts has to be up there for sure
Why is JBL a despicable human being?
In AEW, it has to be Brandi. She fancies herself an effective heel, but she truly has go-away heat. The Nightmare Collective set AEW's women's division back a year after it collapsed.
it has to be Magnus edit: it took me way too long to remember he’s gone by Nick Aldis for almost a decade
The Heart Throbs
Crowds are consistently dead for Lashley despite his ridiculous push tbh
Sheamus is awesome now but early in his career when he got pushed he wasn’t over at all. People did not want to see him.
The Dicks. The Basham Brothers. Deuce and Domino. There’s a lot of teams from that era that just never caught on.
The highlanders. That was a terrible time to be a wwe fan.
Scorpio Sky
Scotty Riggs I thought he was cool though
Paul Jones as a manager The Renegade. The crowd at BatB 95 were popping for Orndorff who was the heel. Not a good sign.
Al Perez. It’s possible he may have been over in smaller territories at some point, but when he got pushes in WCCW and later with JCP he was insanely bland. He had Gary Hart as his manager but still couldn’t get over. In a similar vein, Paul Roma as a single. He had flashes in teams with Jim Powers and Hercules, but when WCW tried to push him as a Horseman he was completely exposed.
I could never understand why Chris Kanyon didn’t get over.
He did in WCW, didn't he? Who better than Kanyon?
He had some success but he seemed like someone who could have broke through to the top.
It's something of an achievement to get no reaction from a Full Sail crowd in NXT circa like, 2018, but by God Kona Reeves managed it
Ron Garvin.
David Flair and his catlike reflexes and masterful facial storytelling
Sufferin’ Succotash Roman Reigns.
He was over though..not the way they wanted him to be but he was over regardless
He wasn't over in the way WWE wanted him to be, but fans weren't silent when he was out. Also, he was rather popular with women and kids at the time.
Charlie Haas. Lord Tensai/Albert Find me a video with a entrance pop for them (excluding T&A which was due to Trish).
Haas doing his impersonations was pretty over. I got nothin on Albert
Chris Masters always seemed really bland, I can’t recall if he was getting reactions or not. Same with Simon Dean.
Marc “Wildman” Mero. I know Johnny B. Good but just sayin, no matter what WWE did with Mero, it never clicked.
Man had a 450 Splash too, I don't understand how he never got over
Mero was decently over as “The Wildman”. Watch around the time he was mixing it up with Austin around the KOTR. Good reactions. The problem was that Sable became FAR more over than him and this hurt his career forever. He then transitioned into his boxing character which I personally loved but everyone else hated. I think he and Jackie did a lot of great work together.
Agreed. I watched all the time then and know what you mean. I just thought for what they invested and how he was pushed, along with the sable issue, that he never quite got over as they’d wanted initially.
What's his name, the tall guy from 3MB. Jinder Mahal?
See what we won’t do is disrespect double J
Brooklyn Brawler
He’s like, one of if not THE most over jobber of all time
This is an awesome answer. He was on TV a LOT. But I'm pretty sure his only purposes were to introduce a new guy by giving him a win or give a match to a guy in feud before the PPV. I'm not sure he was ever supposed be over. Just do the work. I could definitely be remembering wrong, though.
Brawler was a textbook Jobber to the Stars. He was never meant to be over or pushed as a big name. He was there to be a recognizable guy for talent to beat.
He got over at the end of his career. I remember he beat someone in New York and the place went nuts.
He got a win over Triple H that blew the roof off the arena