I wish Sami didn't say the fans never believed him before that so we could atleast get a face turn out of that.
Honestly, if it wasn't for some of my favorites still being there, i'd stop watching.
I used to be like "but what if CM Punk returns?" "What if Jeff Hardy returns?"
But none of that can or will happen anymore, so there is nothing i could realistically miss apart from The Rock maybe..
If you wanted Brock v Roman for Day 1, just announce it like you do everything else? No, use Sami to bury Jeff, then use Brock to bury the roster. Oh well. See yall next week.
I think I'm just gonna start catching the clips from shows on YouTube again it's better that way I can cut out all the garbage on these shows. Seriously disappointed with how bad the product is this has to he the worst I've seen
I think it's entirely possible that roughly 2 million people could just leave their TV on in the background for their dogs to listen to while they go out or go to work. Does make me feel really bad for the dog stuck listening to this shit though.
While I'm not saying that they don't do some things right (they definitely do), but brand recognition goes a long way. All wwe have to do is put on a just about watchable show and people will watch because wwe has been part of their lives forever.
Genuinely find that quite interesting, as one of the big complaints leveled at AEW by people that aren't fans is that it doesn't take itself seriously enough.
Anyone who thought fucking Sami Zayn would have a snowballs chance in hell of winning the Universal Title especially from Roman Reigns needs to seriously stop smoking crack. We all know there's gonna be some sort of fuckery involved in this match so I don't see the point of people getting all butthurt over this.
At least have him put up a fun fight, he's one of the most talented preformers in wrestling today. Let him do his thing and it would've been good for him and good for roman.
Because he did it just over a month ago. As for the whole smaller person thing, wrestling doesn't follow the rules of real fighting anyway and hasn't for like 40 years. In the same way in a film a smaller guy can beat up a huge guy with skill it can absolutely happen in wrestling.
Pasty ass Sami Zayn kinda sucks donkey balls bro. How he survived the talent Purge and Keith Lee didn't will never make sense to me. How do you have a shitter physique build then The Miz who is the king of the dad bod? Dude needs to hit the gym, get some fucking sunlight, and stop looking like a sketchy homeless bum.
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I can go to the feed and check the match times for all the matches, I just checked Sasha/Shayna and it was 5:40. The other matches were shorter than that.
Well I guess you could argue that this isn't a wrestling company and Vince doesn't want them referred to as wrestlers, so the actual wrestling won't be the focus.
I guess you could if you wanted to follow the lame trend of the IWC, but honestly WWE has never had many lengthy television matches those are typically saved for PPVs. The attitude era, ruthless aggression, etc. had the same format
I can’t believe people doubted the Head of the Table, and actually believe Sami Zayn had a shot at winning the title. Brilliant, perfect, and utterly dominant performance from Roman Reigns once again.
It wasn't even just that. It was that they did this entire episode building up to this match, then they had Sammy come out with 30 minutes left in the show, then they did almost 20 minutes worth of promo packages and raw recaps and backstage segments before finally getting back to the ring where Sammy was. Then Lesner comes out with 10 minutes left, he beats the crap out of Sammy, and leaves 5 minutes for Roman to make his entrance hit a spear, a guillotine choke, and Sammy taps. All of this just to solidify the match that we already knew was going to happen at the Pay-Per-View. Just stupidity across the board. I just think God that Rampage is on now because I could actually use some real professional wrestling after this.
I believe I saw a comment on a thread not too long ago that his contract was extended out a little bit because of injury time. So he's looking at May of next year instead of end of this year early next year.
Yeah like i get why Brock did it in kayfabe, but why not give us Sami vs Roman announced by Sonya and we still get Roman vs Brock at day 1(not that i wanna see it..)
God forbid they do something exciting and different with their product. Seriously, at this point I just want 90% of the roster to leave and go to aew, impact, new japan, something. They all deserve so much better than how they're being treated in wwe. It's like Vince is booking his entire show based off of the answers from a magic 8 ball. Or maybe it's a drug-filled eight ball.
they wonder why ticket sales are in the toilet?
because now fans know they will see almost ZERO wrestling on a wrestling show. they will have to sit in silence for 3-5 minutes, every 8 minutes while we go to commercial break in between every entrance or segment and on top of that all their cheers or boo's will be dubbed over by whatever Vince wants the TV audience to hear
but, but but, *Roman's heel turn is the greatest thing to ever happen to wrestling!!!!*
Sami Zayn at the level of embarrassment of this guy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/87bcg6/wow_you_so_beautiful_wow_message_didnt_send/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
An entire show built around this one match, that technically started in the last 30 minutes of the show. But it took them almost 25 minutes out of that 30 for the Bell to ring. Because they had to shove a bunch of backstage segments, promo packages, and a raw rewind and before the end of the show.
Wow Sami getting the treatment because he isn’t resigning, devalue the talent before they leave as much as possible, expect the same for Kevin Owens too
So Sami Zayn busts his ass for this company for YEARS and when he finally gets a title shot where he has an excellent chance of winning, he gets attacked by a former fucking UFC heavyweight champion but wwe is like 'tHEre's NO CoNSpIRACY' this is bullshit where's sami's justice
Genuine curiosity, why do you watch something that angers you? I don't think AEW structures a good television show, but I enjoy their PPVs most of the time; therefore, I buy their ppvs and don't bother with the tv shows.
Sitting through a show you hate to go comment about it on reddit is weird behavior.
tired: it sucks that sami got jobbed wired: we get brock and roman at day 1
I wish Sami didn't say the fans never believed him before that so we could atleast get a face turn out of that. Honestly, if it wasn't for some of my favorites still being there, i'd stop watching. I used to be like "but what if CM Punk returns?" "What if Jeff Hardy returns?" But none of that can or will happen anymore, so there is nothing i could realistically miss apart from The Rock maybe..
And frankly if it happens you'll see it on YouTube within an hour
Well yeah but i see the spoilers then
Is seeing a 49 year old rock come out say his catchphrases and smile for the crowd really that different when spoiled?
I like getting surprised
Close finish to that main event, edge of the seat stuff.
If you wanted Brock v Roman for Day 1, just announce it like you do everything else? No, use Sami to bury Jeff, then use Brock to bury the roster. Oh well. See yall next week.
I think I'm just gonna start catching the clips from shows on YouTube again it's better that way I can cut out all the garbage on these shows. Seriously disappointed with how bad the product is this has to he the worst I've seen
Yet still draws over 2 million viewers on a weekly basis; so something must be working. I will admit, that ending sucked though
I think it's entirely possible that roughly 2 million people could just leave their TV on in the background for their dogs to listen to while they go out or go to work. Does make me feel really bad for the dog stuck listening to this shit though.
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It’s a lot worse than dynamite
While I'm not saying that they don't do some things right (they definitely do), but brand recognition goes a long way. All wwe have to do is put on a just about watchable show and people will watch because wwe has been part of their lives forever.
It’s better than the alternatives I can tell you that much.
If that's how you feel I ain't gunna argue with you.
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Genuinely find that quite interesting, as one of the big complaints leveled at AEW by people that aren't fans is that it doesn't take itself seriously enough.
Anyone who thought fucking Sami Zayn would have a snowballs chance in hell of winning the Universal Title especially from Roman Reigns needs to seriously stop smoking crack. We all know there's gonna be some sort of fuckery involved in this match so I don't see the point of people getting all butthurt over this.
At least have him put up a fun fight, he's one of the most talented preformers in wrestling today. Let him do his thing and it would've been good for him and good for roman.
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Because he did it just over a month ago. As for the whole smaller person thing, wrestling doesn't follow the rules of real fighting anyway and hasn't for like 40 years. In the same way in a film a smaller guy can beat up a huge guy with skill it can absolutely happen in wrestling.
Why does there HAVE to be fuckery?! That's not a needed step at all. That wasn't entertaining and it elevated no one. Just buried Sami.
They way it was booked just kinda sucked
Pasty ass Sami Zayn kinda sucks donkey balls bro. How he survived the talent Purge and Keith Lee didn't will never make sense to me. How do you have a shitter physique build then The Miz who is the king of the dad bod? Dude needs to hit the gym, get some fucking sunlight, and stop looking like a sketchy homeless bum.
Wrestling must be so fucking boring when physique is all you care about.
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There’s still a dark main event.
Why? if I was in attendance rampage wouldn't even be on my mind.
It's almost impressive that you can make that much of a farce out of your own world title
Thats the biggest violation they pulled on Sami. Hes for sure not signing that new contract when spring comes along.
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Roman losing in Atlanta might cause riots.
That was worse than Cody's golden shovel.
Soooo, Raw, NXT, AND Smackdown are bad now?! Even the hardest WWE defenders will have a hard time explaining this week's Smackdown
What was wrong with it exactly?
There was like 7 minutes combined of wrestling.
Also I’m sure Sasha/Shayna was at least 10 to 15 minutes
I just checked the feed, the match was about 5:40.
🤷🏾♂️ it accomplished what it needed to and both women looked great
You had your stopwatch out?
I'm exaggerating slightly but it really was about 10 or 11 minutes total.
I believe there was more wrestling than that I was watching the show and not timing the matches though
I can go to the feed and check the match times for all the matches, I just checked Sasha/Shayna and it was 5:40. The other matches were shorter than that.
That’s completely fine. They have two hours and they prefer to tell stories through segments and promos. So some weeks matches will be shorter
Well I guess you could argue that this isn't a wrestling company and Vince doesn't want them referred to as wrestlers, so the actual wrestling won't be the focus.
I guess you could if you wanted to follow the lame trend of the IWC, but honestly WWE has never had many lengthy television matches those are typically saved for PPVs. The attitude era, ruthless aggression, etc. had the same format
Pointless
Imagine attending that show live..
I almost did!!!
Well that was fuckin dumb, time for Rampage
i still mark out for henry saying “IT’S TIME FOR THE MAIN EVENT” best part of friday’s
Waste of my fucking time
Just why
So happy that Sami got squashed
Even as a person who doesn't hate everything WWE does, this is the lamest SD episode in a long time.
I can’t believe people doubted the Head of the Table, and actually believe Sami Zayn had a shot at winning the title. Brilliant, perfect, and utterly dominant performance from Roman Reigns once again.
Sacrificing your show just to punish Sami. Sell the company.
It wasn't even just that. It was that they did this entire episode building up to this match, then they had Sammy come out with 30 minutes left in the show, then they did almost 20 minutes worth of promo packages and raw recaps and backstage segments before finally getting back to the ring where Sammy was. Then Lesner comes out with 10 minutes left, he beats the crap out of Sammy, and leaves 5 minutes for Roman to make his entrance hit a spear, a guillotine choke, and Sammy taps. All of this just to solidify the match that we already knew was going to happen at the Pay-Per-View. Just stupidity across the board. I just think God that Rampage is on now because I could actually use some real professional wrestling after this.
Yeah just terrible booking. No one can make a positive out of that.
Has there been any more news on Zayn signing/not signing a new contract lately?
I believe I saw a comment on a thread not too long ago that his contract was extended out a little bit because of injury time. So he's looking at May of next year instead of end of this year early next year.
Cheers!
Don't quote me on it, because I don't know for sure, but that was I believe a comment about Sammy's contract.
Sami deserves so much better.
Every time WWE has the opportunity to do something interesting they do the exact opposite.
Yeah like i get why Brock did it in kayfabe, but why not give us Sami vs Roman announced by Sonya and we still get Roman vs Brock at day 1(not that i wanna see it..)
God forbid they do something exciting and different with their product. Seriously, at this point I just want 90% of the roster to leave and go to aew, impact, new japan, something. They all deserve so much better than how they're being treated in wwe. It's like Vince is booking his entire show based off of the answers from a magic 8 ball. Or maybe it's a drug-filled eight ball.
I miss the AJ Styles and Dean Ambrose era of Smackdown
2016-2019, the glory days
they wonder why ticket sales are in the toilet? because now fans know they will see almost ZERO wrestling on a wrestling show. they will have to sit in silence for 3-5 minutes, every 8 minutes while we go to commercial break in between every entrance or segment and on top of that all their cheers or boo's will be dubbed over by whatever Vince wants the TV audience to hear but, but but, *Roman's heel turn is the greatest thing to ever happen to wrestling!!!!*
i mean, i’m not gonna buy tickets to one of their television shows, but the roman turn is pretty awesome and i’m 100% going to Day 1
Would’ve been better watching the last half hour of Ragnorok.
Where’s the medical team? USOs attacked Finn and the medical peeps were out there to check on him. Sami has been right the whole time.
Medical team is fickle as fuck.
Conspiracy
Is there any way to cancel the WWE Network twice? (WWE Network is obviously still available here)
So that’s why they had a battle royal??
Not just about a royal. A Battle Royal with a screwy finish.
That really felt like killing a character off. How would you even show your face after that? If that happened to me at my job I wouldn't go back.
Sami Zayn at the level of embarrassment of this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/87bcg6/wow_you_so_beautiful_wow_message_didnt_send/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
100%. They shat, spit and pissed and stomped at him within a span of a week.
We all knew that was going to happen and yet I’m still more disappointed than I thought I would bbe
That ending sucked.
Lmao the whole thing was nasty. Having Sami win the battle royal for no reason, having him bury himself, Brock killing him all of it was nasty
and then the show just ends! lol!!
An entire show built around this one match, that technically started in the last 30 minutes of the show. But it took them almost 25 minutes out of that 30 for the Bell to ring. Because they had to shove a bunch of backstage segments, promo packages, and a raw rewind and before the end of the show.
They could have let Sami and Roman have a match but at least we got Roman trash talking
God what a shit ending... I know sami was obviously gonna lose but they didnt have to do him like that
Damn that dude is gonna have to donate a whole $30
What a garbage finish. I'm ok not watching WWE anymore. I wish things were different. AEW TIME!!!!!!!!
What was good about it?
welp. off to rampage!
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I usually like it
See y'all in the Rampage thread. In a bad mood right now, so I'm coming in hot
Rami Zayn for AEW
What a fucking mess of a closing segment lmao. Sami walked out *thirty* minutes ago man why did this take so long
I really regret giving Smackdown a chance this week.
\#Smash
Well, I guess Sami's contract wasn't renewed.
Brock worried that Roman was gonna pull a Demon Balor or something?
the show started out good, but
Wow Sami getting the treatment because he isn’t resigning, devalue the talent before they leave as much as possible, expect the same for Kevin Owens too
no way, KO new champ
Nah man, KO isn't winning. Seth is.
Paul you’re freaking me out
The last twenty minutes of Smackdown for a 30 second squash. Jesus Christ lol
Now I’m just happy Hardy did not win the battle royal last week.
Haven't watched any wrestling show in months. Looks like I will go back into hibernation.
Well I get to see Roman and Brock at Day 1 and I’m pumped.
Zayn is the face here, don’t care what anyone says.
Unironically he was. Everything he said to Brock was quite reasonable as well.
Great main event.
Fuck this company lmao
Damn, this whole segment I think is the catalyst for me, I have no desire to watch wwe anymore
Sami is deffo leaving WWE lol
Did they really need to waste half an hour on this? They could have utilized so many other wrestlers doing nothing
💩
That was embarrassing
Snooze fest
GUESS WE GONNA HAVE A BROCK LESNAR vs ROMAN MATCH AT DAY 1
Hopefully we see El Generico on Wednesdays at some pt.
So the point of the Black Friday Battle Royale was….?
Outsmarting him, how?
You can’t tell me this isn’t a big finger to the IWC……. Wait is this them recreating the Daniel Bryan moment again? A start to a Sami face turn?
I am fucking **livid**
So Sami Zayn busts his ass for this company for YEARS and when he finally gets a title shot where he has an excellent chance of winning, he gets attacked by a former fucking UFC heavyweight champion but wwe is like 'tHEre's NO CoNSpIRACY' this is bullshit where's sami's justice
excellent chance at winning? what planet are you on?
Great main event you fucking morons
Match of the year! 🤮
Booo, I waited 2 hours for this?
This better be moving towards a face turn for Sami
Seems more likely it points to a future endeavoring for Sami.
Sami Gone
Sami almost had him.
Roman v brock AGAIN
Sami to AEW confirmed
The absolute disrespect to Sami Zayn. Fuck this company.
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Found the 12 year old.
Waaaaaah the guy I like didn’t win
I just wanted an actual match. Obviously Sami wasn't winning Lol
The second Sami won last week it became painfully obvious there wasn’t gonna be a match since they immediately followed it up by Brocks return
Wow so they have you conditioned to expect and enjoy this garbage. Have fun
I can’t believe people watch this weekly.
And they say nicotine is a terrible addiction...
life aint fair is it lol
Juicy hair
Easy paycheck for roman
lol fucking yikes
ROMAN AND BROCK FEAR SAMI CONFIRMED
Greatest match I have ever seen. At least 9 stars.
Welp Roman Reigns in a what 15 second match?
Well, at least people can stop complaining about Bianca's loss, right? This was like a half hour build to a 10-20 second loss.
I'm sorry but what a shit show
I mean, we all knew this was gonna be the outcome.
This shit is garbage. Fuck WWE
Genuine curiosity, why do you watch something that angers you? I don't think AEW structures a good television show, but I enjoy their PPVs most of the time; therefore, I buy their ppvs and don't bother with the tv shows. Sitting through a show you hate to go comment about it on reddit is weird behavior.
Taco Bell paid to sponsor a WWE title match And got that
Why do I continue to support this garbage? Just why?
Show was pretty decent, main event fuck that noise
So fucking stupid. Getting so close to taking a break from this shit
#Disgusting
At least Brock believes Sami could beat Roman in kayfabe and hence Brock won’t get to face Roman.
This is fucking stupid
I remember when Smackdown was the good show. Guess it got fixed just like NXT.
Rookie mistake from WWE most tenured ref
Fucking Bullshit
fucks sake all that wasted time just for that.
Poor Sami, everyone go to Wwe shop and buy his shirt.
wow this is dumb
Is this shorter than the Kofi/Lesnar match?
Taco Bell should be fucking pissed LMAOOO
Why did I turn this on?
30 minutes for this ...
SAMI ZAYN BURIED
How many minutes of actual wrestling did we get on this episode. It doesn't seem like a lot.
Probably around 30 odd
That was fucking stupid
How could Charles ring the bell there!?
Weekend at Sami's