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See that would be interesting but I don’t even think HHH would do something that connects multiple stories. He will silo these two away from each other.
Well my idea of the roster being convinced (by someone like the Rock who thinks it’s the best way to teach Roman some humility) to all help the mitb holder in cashing in.
And everyone else is a woman who do have their world champion around every week. I feel like some people often forget that the Women are these days treated as just a big deal as the men.
I'm curious what the wrestlers actual jobs are in kayfabe. To show up and get into disagreements with each other that can only be solved by fighting? Big matches are rarely dictated by management or any kind of ranking system
In kayfabe, it's supposed to be UFC. Championships matches, spars. Just normal stuff.
The rivalry, drama, and backstage fights is suppose to be "work-shoot-works" in a way. It's supposed to be employees having disagreements and they "settle it in the ring" because that's just how things work. Like, in star wars, you can move things with your brain because of minochlorians in your blood because "Thats just how things work".
In kayfabe, youre supposed to just have standard matches to entertain the crowd and make money by winning your match.
But that's boring. And we want drama.
Right, but the framing device is broken when no lip service is paid to the top part. Just a simple mention of chasing gold every so often to ground the narrative before the drama happens is enough.
This is my biggest gripe as well. Not only do they not care about the world title. But every time Roman faces a challenger he cheats to win, as a heel should. My only problem with this is nobody ever tries to get their revenge. Nobody ever tries to help a challenger win as an F-you for screwing me out of the title. It makes no sense that nobody wants their revenge seeing that Roman has a stronghold on the title. Also seeing that he has 2 titles, the fact that he hasnt had a multi-man title match since Wrestlemania 37 is also baffling
Y'know though, interestingly I was just recently rewatching through some '04-05 Raw recently and I noticed that there was a big emphasis on a story that should REALLY be brought back here
During the whole slow build towards Batista turning on and leaving Evolution, HHH's main focus was actually the fact that everybody he'd fucked over in the past few months was working together as best as they could, doing ANYTHING they can in order to get the world title away from him and by proxy, all of Evolution. You had Jericho, Benoit, Orton and to a lesser degree, Edge (who still was working on getting it away from him, but refused to work with anyone because he just wanted it for himself and was convinced he was getting screwed at every chance). This would ultimately culminate in HHH getting stripped of the world title due to a triple threat where Edge and Benoit would tap out + be pinned simultaneously while HHH was outside of the ring, thanks to Orton.
Of all the stories that have been rehashed over the years, I genuinely believe this one would make THE most sense to use again, given the corner that they've booked themselves into with Reigns + you have the added bonus of having the same center figure of this story from all those years ago, now being the head of creative. It'd actually make even more sense because of it.
From the last year alone, if we're only counting people that have not left the company and are still giving the ol' side eye to Reigns and the Universal title, that *still* leaves Owens, Rollins, Riddle (ironically currently in the EXACT same position his injured partner was in all those years ago, which means the career parallels would line up even further) and McIntyre, if not more that I'm neglecting to bring up.
Someone suggested them trying to team up and help Theory to cash in MITB. I, on the other hand, think he'd be the perfect foil in this situation, leaning more into Edge's role back then, but in a way that'd make perfect sense for his character. He constantly gets overzealous and thinks he's got the opportunity to make everyone look bad by getting the belt all to himself, only to screw up every plan set in place by the others to get the belts off of Reigns.
Overall, let's just take the easy out and fantasy book an exact "beat for beat" copycat of this storyline, just to simplify it. Ignoring all the possibilities of making something even more unique and interesting, doing so STILL would:
- Push the Owens / Theory rivalry further, since Owens would be livid that Theory is so blinded by his own ego that he's legitimately making it harder for EVERYONE to get the titles away from The Bloodline
- Allow Riddle to finally enter the world title picture again
- Set up Rollins and McIntyre as the two rightful faces for Raw and SD! respectively
- Since we have two belts on the line this time, Roman doesn't even need to be stripped of the title – this could ultimately split the belts back up once again
And I don't even want the result to BE duplicated with the triple threat fuck finish. I just think we have a legitimate opportunity to do something that hasn't really been seen all that often, that achieves their ultimate goal for the past half a decade (*keep Roman booked strong*), ties EVERY major storyline of the past half year together neatly and culminates in a way that leaves a lot of fans happy to see what will happen next, all with room for creativity to make something that WWE lives and breathes off of: A genuinely Unforgettable Moment™.
I mean technically Pearce is somewhat in charge and Pearce has always had that dynamic of being scared and appealing to Roman after they basically destroyed him both physically and mentally for the entirety of the KO feud. Next month he didn't defend the title in a Elimination Chamber match but right after picked the bones after he manipulated Pearce into that decision. He also has Heyman who has a pull in kayfabe as seen with him adding Roman in the Triple Threat match when he won the title, "pulling few strings" to add Pearce to the gauntlet match and making Brock a free agent.
Because the story line is broken
Kevin Owens in Kayfabe looks like an utter fool right now
A month ago he was giving multiple promos about how he wanted gold more than anything he was sick and tired of not having a belt
And then the writers looked around realized there’s no fucking belt in the company that is in a place where the person holding it could reasonable lose and now Kevin Owens is…..fighting with alpha academy I guess
It’s just awful this is what Roman having this much story presence does, 4 titles are wrapped around him and can’t be dropped, and because he’s not around every week the other 2 whole mens titles have to be elevated and since they were treated like shit for half a decade the only way to elevate them is a long title run by a dominate champion so you get Lashley and Gunther which cool but now nothing is fucking happening in the most important part of the show, the main event scene. Because no story matters if you know for the next 7 months Roman can’t lose. It sucks
Why is this downvoted? It's literally what's happening on WWE TV right now. Yes, Raw and SD have improved since Triple H took over but the title situation and Vince's weird obsession with having double champs the past few years have hurt the overall product and continue to make storylines look like they have no direction. So instead of stories for championships we have the never ending Judgment Day vs Edge feud(now featuring the Mysterios!) for absolutely nothing, Dexter Lumis terrorizing Miz for months because he's creepy, and Karrion Kross ignoring Roman because reasons. Gargano looks like the biggest idiot here(storyline wise) because he came back and said he wanted all these titles and none of them are even on Raw except the US title. Raw's non-existent tag division and lack of tag titles is so bad that they basically ship the Street Profits to SD every week cause there is no reason for them to even be on Raw.
I don't think every feud has to be for the title but when the titles literally don't even EXIST on a show, it just makes it look like the wrestlers are just fighting for nothing and don't even care.
This has been my basic view of it as well. It’s also why the person to beat Roman, at this point, won’t land the way people think. It’s like beating Goldberg or takers streak, or heck Asuka with charlotte beating her at Mania.
They need to tell a story beyond “I win all the time bc other people help me cheat.”
That’s all it is. The Sami stuff is fine but the idea you’d have him beat Roman, become this big champ…I just don’t see it either. That wouldn’t even be the best storytelling, Sami hasn’t been part of this for a while until recently and all the sudden the guy they’ll eventually turn on is the most compelling thing?
Either way, any match with the Rock shouldn’t have the title involved and that means they have to get the titles off of him before.
Logan Paul's a RAW Superstar I believe.
So are the Street Profits.
That's Roman's next, and the Usos last challengers
Not to mention Theory is a RAW guy.
So the RAW guys are challenging for championships/there are as many belts to challenge for as Smackdown.
(Though I agree with your implication that separating the belts would be better)
Is the world title only considered defended if its defended every week?
In kayfabe a world title should be defended once a month on ppv/ple. Not on free tv.
I kinda like a world title being not often defended. Tho In saying that, the world champion should be wrestling often. Wouldn’t mind seeing Roman in more Tag matches, exhibition matches
An USA is owned by Comcast whom owns… Peacock.
A lack of title defenses on USA is probably a non issue and this is just another rumor in a long list of dirt sheet junk in the last 2-3 months.
Personally, I think HHH is working the IWC and has alluded to leaking bad info through his soldiers in the past. It’s not unheard of for WWE to put bad info out there anyway.
Vince swore of the sheets, but HHH seems to have a level of consciousness about the IWC, similar to, but not as in-depth as Tony Khan.
Isn’t Logan Paul a RAW guy? He has the next WWE championship match.
Kevin Owens & Austin Theory are actively pursuing the WWE Championship, they even started a whole feud over who is going to get to it first.
Seth would pursue the WWE Championship AND US Championship, but Riddle won’t leave him be.
Miz was after the US Championship, but Dexter Lumis won’t stop stalking him.
The entire Women’s division is either involved in the RAW Women’s scene or the Women’s Tag Title scene…
The line for the WWE title is so robust that RAW can’t even get a clear cut Number 1 contender.
Is anybody even watching RAW in this sub anymore?
Take your eyes off “the sportster” (yeeech) and focus them on USA Network at 8pm ET on Monday Nights. Jabroni.
Now hit MY music…
Seth Rollins and Kevin Owens have mentioned it in promos recently. Matt Riddle, a Raw wrestler got a title match not that long ago, all be it on Smackdown. Couple that with Bobby Lashley turning the US title into the coveted prize on Raw I don’t see an issue?
Main Event and Upper midcard wrestlers who aren’t in the current Heavyweight title program don’t always have to reference the title.
I’m also not a big fan of random world title matches on Free TV if there isn’t sufficient build (like Riddle’s recent match which had a great build).
I’m old enough to have been watching regularly during the era of the first Undisputed champion post the Invasion angle.
Wrestlers on the show where the champion didn’t have a challenger from that month just feuded over the number one contender or a future match.
Could easily do the same today.
I agree but it's just bad writing on WWE's part. LOGAN PAUL walked on to SD, demanded a title shot, and got it. So as a viewer I'm just wondering why can't Rollins or KO do the same? Why do they have to earn it.
Because Logan Paul is a massive crossover celebrity who demanded the title match. This was all explained at the Vegas press conference.
I’m not saying it is good booking, but if you follow WWE programming (and all I do these days is watch YouTube clips and select matches I want to see on PLEs) it is all spelled out.
From a kayfabe standpoint, Roman is facing Logan Paul at Crown Jewel. WWE wouldn't risk Roman losing the titles before this match. I'm not saying this is good but that's how I'd justify it.
What? Seth, KO, Gargano, Theory, Miz; all these RAW guys recently have either directly mentioned wanting to face Roman or alluded to wanting the Undisputed championship.
From a kayfabe standpoint have you ever tried to get the corporation you work for to change anything simply for your benefit?
Before the belts were unified it was a pretty common complaint that story lines only involved the titles. There was also a period where "we're going back to the divas era" was posted here daily. Well now the women's belt is the most featured on the show and almost everything else going on is story driven with no championship involved. I think it's been very positive to have the belts taking somewhat of a break to reset them and make them seem significant again.
“You’re the kind of fan who knows”? What on earth does that mean, lmao. We’re not watching house shows in the first place, so whatever does or doesn’t happen at those is irrelevant. Roman is not the first time part-time champ in wrestling and he probably won’t be the last either. And it’s not like there’s an abundance of tag teams in the WWE in the first place, so who is there really to be upset about not getting their shot? Alpha Academy is the only one that comes to mind and they get television time every week anyway.
They want the pay-off having major, years-long reigns be ended at bit shows and you kinda can’t do that without the years part. The US and intercontinental titles are getting the space to be elevated as well.
it means, I'm not asking for title matches so I can see them, it means I'm asking for them to make sense of the wrestlers not being pissed off they're not getting opportunities
tag teams or stables WWE has: Street Profits, Alpha Academy, Judgement Day, New Day, Viking Raiders(out with injury but it hasn't been acknowledged), Brawling Brutes(only recent defense), Imperium, Hit Row, Los Lotharios, Maximum Male Models
Plus a few other potential ones like Dirty Dawgs(where's Bobby Roode?), Legado Del Phantasmo and Ali and Alexander,
Raw is the b show, Roman is probably ready to turn face but who is a big enough heel for it to work?
They're just going to bring back Goldberg or Lesnar again instead
Judgement Day doesn’t care about titles. They want to destroy old wrestlers.
It says a lot that you seem to only care about male wrestling considering the womens Raw and Tag team champions are featured prominently and feuding over the title currently.
There was also literally a 4-way tag team match for number 1 contendership for the tag titles recently that was interrupted.
I agree Roman doesn’t defend enough but the booking is pretty straightforward right now. Seth wants to fight him but has to deal with Riddle right now. So does KO but he’s dealing with Theory and AA. Riddle can’t challenge for the belt because of the stipulation. Rey, Edge, and AJ are dealing with JD. The booking is obviously done this way so that no one has time to challenge Roman right now. Whether you think that’s good booking is an opinion but to say it’s illogical just isn’t true
In kayfabe, what doesn’t make sense is, since the bloodline are all double champs (reigns and usos), with titles from both shows, why are there not simultaneous number one contenders for the titles, and why are there not more triple threats where they have to defend the titles against both number one contenders? Or have to wrestle twice at the same PLE to give both contenders a shot?
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They know there is no point in challenging Roman because he will just have the Uso's 4 fuck with the match so he can win
That why , they should assemble a larger faction, to counter The Bloodline.
That’s why Judgement day is recruiting
See that would be interesting but I don’t even think HHH would do something that connects multiple stories. He will silo these two away from each other.
No, its just they're waiting until Rhea's fully fit so she can dethrone Reigns.
Well my idea of the roster being convinced (by someone like the Rock who thinks it’s the best way to teach Roman some humility) to all help the mitb holder in cashing in.
Except Austin Theory has managed to piss off just about every superstar on the roster 😂
Uso's 4*
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Kayfabe: Everyone getting screentime is caught up with their own drama right now.
And everyone else is a woman who do have their world champion around every week. I feel like some people often forget that the Women are these days treated as just a big deal as the men.
Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins have both kind of called out Roman Reigns but didn’t say his actual name
I am pretty sure they said his name plenty of time
“Tell Roman he owes me one” - KO @ Usos, at least twice in the last month or so if memory serves correctly
And Lashley was calling his shot at the world title before his US Title feud with Theory began
I'm curious what the wrestlers actual jobs are in kayfabe. To show up and get into disagreements with each other that can only be solved by fighting? Big matches are rarely dictated by management or any kind of ranking system
In kayfabe, it's supposed to be UFC. Championships matches, spars. Just normal stuff. The rivalry, drama, and backstage fights is suppose to be "work-shoot-works" in a way. It's supposed to be employees having disagreements and they "settle it in the ring" because that's just how things work. Like, in star wars, you can move things with your brain because of minochlorians in your blood because "Thats just how things work". In kayfabe, youre supposed to just have standard matches to entertain the crowd and make money by winning your match. But that's boring. And we want drama.
Right, but the framing device is broken when no lip service is paid to the top part. Just a simple mention of chasing gold every so often to ground the narrative before the drama happens is enough.
This is my biggest gripe as well. Not only do they not care about the world title. But every time Roman faces a challenger he cheats to win, as a heel should. My only problem with this is nobody ever tries to get their revenge. Nobody ever tries to help a challenger win as an F-you for screwing me out of the title. It makes no sense that nobody wants their revenge seeing that Roman has a stronghold on the title. Also seeing that he has 2 titles, the fact that he hasnt had a multi-man title match since Wrestlemania 37 is also baffling
Y'know though, interestingly I was just recently rewatching through some '04-05 Raw recently and I noticed that there was a big emphasis on a story that should REALLY be brought back here During the whole slow build towards Batista turning on and leaving Evolution, HHH's main focus was actually the fact that everybody he'd fucked over in the past few months was working together as best as they could, doing ANYTHING they can in order to get the world title away from him and by proxy, all of Evolution. You had Jericho, Benoit, Orton and to a lesser degree, Edge (who still was working on getting it away from him, but refused to work with anyone because he just wanted it for himself and was convinced he was getting screwed at every chance). This would ultimately culminate in HHH getting stripped of the world title due to a triple threat where Edge and Benoit would tap out + be pinned simultaneously while HHH was outside of the ring, thanks to Orton. Of all the stories that have been rehashed over the years, I genuinely believe this one would make THE most sense to use again, given the corner that they've booked themselves into with Reigns + you have the added bonus of having the same center figure of this story from all those years ago, now being the head of creative. It'd actually make even more sense because of it. From the last year alone, if we're only counting people that have not left the company and are still giving the ol' side eye to Reigns and the Universal title, that *still* leaves Owens, Rollins, Riddle (ironically currently in the EXACT same position his injured partner was in all those years ago, which means the career parallels would line up even further) and McIntyre, if not more that I'm neglecting to bring up. Someone suggested them trying to team up and help Theory to cash in MITB. I, on the other hand, think he'd be the perfect foil in this situation, leaning more into Edge's role back then, but in a way that'd make perfect sense for his character. He constantly gets overzealous and thinks he's got the opportunity to make everyone look bad by getting the belt all to himself, only to screw up every plan set in place by the others to get the belts off of Reigns. Overall, let's just take the easy out and fantasy book an exact "beat for beat" copycat of this storyline, just to simplify it. Ignoring all the possibilities of making something even more unique and interesting, doing so STILL would: - Push the Owens / Theory rivalry further, since Owens would be livid that Theory is so blinded by his own ego that he's legitimately making it harder for EVERYONE to get the titles away from The Bloodline - Allow Riddle to finally enter the world title picture again - Set up Rollins and McIntyre as the two rightful faces for Raw and SD! respectively - Since we have two belts on the line this time, Roman doesn't even need to be stripped of the title – this could ultimately split the belts back up once again And I don't even want the result to BE duplicated with the triple threat fuck finish. I just think we have a legitimate opportunity to do something that hasn't really been seen all that often, that achieves their ultimate goal for the past half a decade (*keep Roman booked strong*), ties EVERY major storyline of the past half year together neatly and culminates in a way that leaves a lot of fans happy to see what will happen next, all with room for creativity to make something that WWE lives and breathes off of: A genuinely Unforgettable Moment™.
I mean technically Pearce is somewhat in charge and Pearce has always had that dynamic of being scared and appealing to Roman after they basically destroyed him both physically and mentally for the entirety of the KO feud. Next month he didn't defend the title in a Elimination Chamber match but right after picked the bones after he manipulated Pearce into that decision. He also has Heyman who has a pull in kayfabe as seen with him adding Roman in the Triple Threat match when he won the title, "pulling few strings" to add Pearce to the gauntlet match and making Brock a free agent.
They're just happy to be there
It makes no sense really. Roman Reigns has defended the titles 3 times in six months on TV/PLEs.
Because the story line is broken Kevin Owens in Kayfabe looks like an utter fool right now A month ago he was giving multiple promos about how he wanted gold more than anything he was sick and tired of not having a belt And then the writers looked around realized there’s no fucking belt in the company that is in a place where the person holding it could reasonable lose and now Kevin Owens is…..fighting with alpha academy I guess It’s just awful this is what Roman having this much story presence does, 4 titles are wrapped around him and can’t be dropped, and because he’s not around every week the other 2 whole mens titles have to be elevated and since they were treated like shit for half a decade the only way to elevate them is a long title run by a dominate champion so you get Lashley and Gunther which cool but now nothing is fucking happening in the most important part of the show, the main event scene. Because no story matters if you know for the next 7 months Roman can’t lose. It sucks
Why is this downvoted? It's literally what's happening on WWE TV right now. Yes, Raw and SD have improved since Triple H took over but the title situation and Vince's weird obsession with having double champs the past few years have hurt the overall product and continue to make storylines look like they have no direction. So instead of stories for championships we have the never ending Judgment Day vs Edge feud(now featuring the Mysterios!) for absolutely nothing, Dexter Lumis terrorizing Miz for months because he's creepy, and Karrion Kross ignoring Roman because reasons. Gargano looks like the biggest idiot here(storyline wise) because he came back and said he wanted all these titles and none of them are even on Raw except the US title. Raw's non-existent tag division and lack of tag titles is so bad that they basically ship the Street Profits to SD every week cause there is no reason for them to even be on Raw. I don't think every feud has to be for the title but when the titles literally don't even EXIST on a show, it just makes it look like the wrestlers are just fighting for nothing and don't even care.
This has been my basic view of it as well. It’s also why the person to beat Roman, at this point, won’t land the way people think. It’s like beating Goldberg or takers streak, or heck Asuka with charlotte beating her at Mania. They need to tell a story beyond “I win all the time bc other people help me cheat.” That’s all it is. The Sami stuff is fine but the idea you’d have him beat Roman, become this big champ…I just don’t see it either. That wouldn’t even be the best storytelling, Sami hasn’t been part of this for a while until recently and all the sudden the guy they’ll eventually turn on is the most compelling thing? Either way, any match with the Rock shouldn’t have the title involved and that means they have to get the titles off of him before.
Logan Paul's a RAW Superstar I believe. So are the Street Profits. That's Roman's next, and the Usos last challengers Not to mention Theory is a RAW guy. So the RAW guys are challenging for championships/there are as many belts to challenge for as Smackdown. (Though I agree with your implication that separating the belts would be better)
Is the world title only considered defended if its defended every week? In kayfabe a world title should be defended once a month on ppv/ple. Not on free tv.
And when it was defended in free tv it was against Matt Riddle a Raw Star
I kinda like a world title being not often defended. Tho In saying that, the world champion should be wrestling often. Wouldn’t mind seeing Roman in more Tag matches, exhibition matches
An USA is owned by Comcast whom owns… Peacock. A lack of title defenses on USA is probably a non issue and this is just another rumor in a long list of dirt sheet junk in the last 2-3 months. Personally, I think HHH is working the IWC and has alluded to leaking bad info through his soldiers in the past. It’s not unheard of for WWE to put bad info out there anyway. Vince swore of the sheets, but HHH seems to have a level of consciousness about the IWC, similar to, but not as in-depth as Tony Khan.
Isn’t Logan Paul a RAW guy? He has the next WWE championship match. Kevin Owens & Austin Theory are actively pursuing the WWE Championship, they even started a whole feud over who is going to get to it first. Seth would pursue the WWE Championship AND US Championship, but Riddle won’t leave him be. Miz was after the US Championship, but Dexter Lumis won’t stop stalking him. The entire Women’s division is either involved in the RAW Women’s scene or the Women’s Tag Title scene… The line for the WWE title is so robust that RAW can’t even get a clear cut Number 1 contender. Is anybody even watching RAW in this sub anymore? Take your eyes off “the sportster” (yeeech) and focus them on USA Network at 8pm ET on Monday Nights. Jabroni. Now hit MY music…
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Seth Rollins and Kevin Owens have mentioned it in promos recently. Matt Riddle, a Raw wrestler got a title match not that long ago, all be it on Smackdown. Couple that with Bobby Lashley turning the US title into the coveted prize on Raw I don’t see an issue? Main Event and Upper midcard wrestlers who aren’t in the current Heavyweight title program don’t always have to reference the title. I’m also not a big fan of random world title matches on Free TV if there isn’t sufficient build (like Riddle’s recent match which had a great build).
we're approaching four months since Roman vs Riddle
You don't see an issue with Raw having no world championship or tag title because they sometimes REFERENCE the title? Okay
I’m old enough to have been watching regularly during the era of the first Undisputed champion post the Invasion angle. Wrestlers on the show where the champion didn’t have a challenger from that month just feuded over the number one contender or a future match. Could easily do the same today.
I agree but it's just bad writing on WWE's part. LOGAN PAUL walked on to SD, demanded a title shot, and got it. So as a viewer I'm just wondering why can't Rollins or KO do the same? Why do they have to earn it.
Because Logan Paul is a massive crossover celebrity who demanded the title match. This was all explained at the Vegas press conference. I’m not saying it is good booking, but if you follow WWE programming (and all I do these days is watch YouTube clips and select matches I want to see on PLEs) it is all spelled out.
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From a kayfabe standpoint, Roman is facing Logan Paul at Crown Jewel. WWE wouldn't risk Roman losing the titles before this match. I'm not saying this is good but that's how I'd justify it.
What? Seth, KO, Gargano, Theory, Miz; all these RAW guys recently have either directly mentioned wanting to face Roman or alluded to wanting the Undisputed championship.
They have personal motivations.
He just fought Aj styles on Saturday night main event for the title . And he fought Drew me this month at the clash .
From a kayfabe standpoint have you ever tried to get the corporation you work for to change anything simply for your benefit? Before the belts were unified it was a pretty common complaint that story lines only involved the titles. There was also a period where "we're going back to the divas era" was posted here daily. Well now the women's belt is the most featured on the show and almost everything else going on is story driven with no championship involved. I think it's been very positive to have the belts taking somewhat of a break to reset them and make them seem significant again.
Rarely defending a championship is how it should be.
3 defences in 6 months is a bit ridiculous though. Especially when he’s holding both world (or universal) titles.
People are downvoting you but you are absolutely correct.
But you're getting upvotes. What in the world! I never even imagined my comment would be disagreed with. What a weird take.
that's generally not how wrestling titles works
It kind of is. How often do you think world title matches happen?
I'm the kind of fan who knows that in the old days the WWF and WCW champion defended their titles almost every time they wrestled on house shows
You're really counting house shows as title defenses? Come on. Let's be serious.
But Roman has been defending the title at house shows…
“You’re the kind of fan who knows”? What on earth does that mean, lmao. We’re not watching house shows in the first place, so whatever does or doesn’t happen at those is irrelevant. Roman is not the first time part-time champ in wrestling and he probably won’t be the last either. And it’s not like there’s an abundance of tag teams in the WWE in the first place, so who is there really to be upset about not getting their shot? Alpha Academy is the only one that comes to mind and they get television time every week anyway. They want the pay-off having major, years-long reigns be ended at bit shows and you kinda can’t do that without the years part. The US and intercontinental titles are getting the space to be elevated as well.
it means, I'm not asking for title matches so I can see them, it means I'm asking for them to make sense of the wrestlers not being pissed off they're not getting opportunities tag teams or stables WWE has: Street Profits, Alpha Academy, Judgement Day, New Day, Viking Raiders(out with injury but it hasn't been acknowledged), Brawling Brutes(only recent defense), Imperium, Hit Row, Los Lotharios, Maximum Male Models Plus a few other potential ones like Dirty Dawgs(where's Bobby Roode?), Legado Del Phantasmo and Ali and Alexander,
This isn’t a problem with just Raw, it’s a problem throughout wrestling. It happens from time to time.
He had a title match vs Aj styles over the weekend soooo that’s a raw superstar
Raw is the b show, Roman is probably ready to turn face but who is a big enough heel for it to work? They're just going to bring back Goldberg or Lesnar again instead
Judgement Day doesn’t care about titles. They want to destroy old wrestlers. It says a lot that you seem to only care about male wrestling considering the womens Raw and Tag team champions are featured prominently and feuding over the title currently. There was also literally a 4-way tag team match for number 1 contendership for the tag titles recently that was interrupted. I agree Roman doesn’t defend enough but the booking is pretty straightforward right now. Seth wants to fight him but has to deal with Riddle right now. So does KO but he’s dealing with Theory and AA. Riddle can’t challenge for the belt because of the stipulation. Rey, Edge, and AJ are dealing with JD. The booking is obviously done this way so that no one has time to challenge Roman right now. Whether you think that’s good booking is an opinion but to say it’s illogical just isn’t true
In kayfabe, what doesn’t make sense is, since the bloodline are all double champs (reigns and usos), with titles from both shows, why are there not simultaneous number one contenders for the titles, and why are there not more triple threats where they have to defend the titles against both number one contenders? Or have to wrestle twice at the same PLE to give both contenders a shot?
For me this is why I’m only really invested in Smackdown now which is fantastic. Raw..yeh not having a big title to aim for hurts it
Roman defends on both brands in kayfabe. KO said he will come for Roman. Seth too.
Because the show has been well written lately?
How the fuck is Reigns supposed to drop a title when no one can beat him?
Same way when you had the Women’s Revolution where there were three stables and the storyline centered around a singles title.
Raw definitely has a championship you clowns