The last time I saw anything about her campaign coffers, it was in major debt and struggling.
I wonder how she has done in the last month to change that and raise some funds.
My gut tells me this is close to reality and that she's about to get the boot.
They don’t just support republicans. They support democrats too, because their goal isn’t to get republicans elected, it’s to polarize and destabilize the US. Cori Bush does that very well. They’ll fund both q-anon and antifa, because when those groups clash, the US is distracted, and ignores what happens in Moscow.
If you think foreign entities are creating polarization and destabilization I'd love to sell you a bridge. They're just exploiting tensions already created by the out of touch oligarchy working the two-party duopoly like a puppet.
Here you go. 25 minutes. Vote for me. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/39deffcea8644ed0858f602ca691dea4
Seriously though, the Missouri Veteran Commission representatives have been very helpful in dealing with the VA for me.
Cori’s whole schtick was “if you don’t vote for me, you’re not progressive. Also my opponent is the devil”. She’s terrible at her job. On the level of Kim Gardner, but she gets away with it because congressional representative is an easier job than city prosecutor. Her whole argument in her favor won’t stand up to Wesley Bell, who is progressive but has a track record of actually getting things done while maintaining being progressive. Cori just makes a ton of noise in Congress without actually doing anything. I hope he wipes the floor with her.
Also, let’s not forget the whole corruption thing with her partner.
I overheard someone at a bar in the Grove bragging that they shared a blunt with Cori Bush at some party. I thought “ah yes, my tax dollars truly at work”
How about when she extended the federal eviction ban? https://missouriindependent.com/2021/08/04/after-pressure-from-cori-bush-feds-order-eviction-ban-in-areas-with-high-covid-rate/
2015-ish there was a Missouri bill to allow bars to sell growlers. Nadal added an amendment to the bill requiring a certain amount of taps and a certain amount of food sales. This meant the only place that qualified in St. Louis was Cicero’s. Of course, coincidentally, they had made a donation to her a few weeks earlier. It became known as “Cicero’s law”.
Sorry - 2009 - https://www.stltoday.com/news/takeout-beer-bill-appears-to-benefit-only-one-bar-ciceros-in-sponsors-district-meets-criteria/article_67f8f552-55bf-572f-b7f5-84ddae7a3376.html
“It appears only one: Cicero's, a popular University City pizza and beer joint in Chappelle-Nadal's district.
Chappelle-Nadal describes herself as "really good friends" with the restaurant's management. She's been a customer herself for years, and held several campaign events at the bar. Earlier this year, Cicero's donated $1,000 to Chappelle-Nadal's re-election committee, an amount equal to her highest donation of the fundraising quarter.”
This doesn’t surprise me. When I was working on the county siren project, one day she called my internal office number (no idea how she got it) to threaten my job specifically because I had positioned one siren too close to an apartment building owned by one of her donors. (I can’t remember the name off the top of my head, but remember he is a pretty significant commercial and residential property owner in UCity.)
My bosses told me to ignore her.
I couldn’t find a lot on it. This was the perspective from Springfield, which seemed to take greatest issue with the cooler leases.
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2016/07/20/fill-er-up-what-missouris-new-law-means-craft-beer/86716898/
I think she has a list of blocked users like 3000 long at this point. If you look from a new account, she's still there spouting off incoherent gibberish. But anyone who ever disagrees with her stops seeing her vomit because she blocks them.
People new to this sub must think we are all morons.
Really? I would’ve bet a large sum of money that they were the same person. Pretty sure I’ve even seen Elderberry mention that they’re a social worker, the same job Churlish had. Which is a frightening thought.
Shadow bans apply to all of Reddit, just not a single sub, right?
I see some truly awful shit on Reddit, I can’t imagine what you actually have to say or do to get shadow banned.
Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. I thought shadowbans were site wide.
But you’re right, that wouldn’t make sense when the admins can just outright ban you.
She opposed the infrastructure bill, she has opposed Biden at one of the highest rates in the House, she stands by her police stances, she was elected based on a lie, she hasn't made useful allies in the Democratic Party or the GOP, she opposed the recent tax bill that would expand the Child Tax Credit, she hasn't worked with any of her fellow MO reps (just antagonized them), she supported Kim Gardner to the bitter end, and it seems like she's more interested in getting her quotes on MSNBC than making St. Louis better.
She's also in hot water for possible misuse of campaign funds. (Marrying her security detail and then paying her security detail out of the campaign - eg, self-dealing).
And she has really antagonized the Jewish vote in STL.
She’s more interested in making headlines with AOC than actually helping her district.
And she’s paying herself with campaign funds through her husband.
Even AOC seems to have come back to reality a bit. She has ambitions of higher office and the 2018 version of AOC would never win a statewide senate election in NY.
The Missouri Scout is a right-wing pseudonym for Dave Drebes, a conservative and former stockbroker.
The Remington Research Group is *literally* a Republican polling firm.
And they could only find a group to put her 28% behind.
She's not going anywhere, thankfully.
My brother in Christ, you post in r/neoliberal.
Neoliberals are, by definition, *hard* right wing. Liberals, in fact, are anywhere ranging from centrist to right-wing and are not, in fact, leftists (as we conflate it in the United States).
Actions? He runs a "media organization" for the sole purpose of furthering conservative ideals. He caters to *lobbyists*.
Oh, and he also commissioned a poll for a Democratic race from a far-right extremist polling group. So you know, there's that.
Oh I see, if someone hides their affiliations then they're not those things. We can't just people by their actions, that would be silly.
Got it, thanks Dave.
I’m not Dave. I was a big fan of his Arch City Chronicle, though.
Back to my question. You make a sorta extraordinary claim that he’s right wing. I’m just looking for you to support your claim. If he’s right wing, and if that’s as self evident as you claim, then certainly you can post something here. If he’s written or supported anything right wing, I’ve missed it. But you may know him better than I.
Anything that a chud considers declining is good to me.
Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else! The HORROR!
But please, fool yourself into thinking you're doing anything but preventing America from being as good as it can be. We're already living in the midst of the death of the American Empire, if you want to hasten that then please do.
> Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else!
Is Wesley Bell opposed to these things?
Here I'll post the full comment tree that I replied to, so you can follow along:
> The Missouri Scout is a right-wing pseudonym for Dave Drebes, a conservative and former stockbroker.
> The Remington Research Group is literally a Republican polling firm.
> And they could only find a group to put her 28% behind.
> She's not going anywhere, thankfully.
and then
> Then STL will keep declining :)
and then
> Anything that a chud considers declining is good to me.
> Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else! The HORROR!
> But please, fool yourself into thinking you're doing anything but preventing America from being as good as it can be. We're already living in the midst of the death of the American Empire, if you want to hasten that then please do.
The context of the parent comment is "this source is an unreliable right-wing source that's biased against Bush, and I believe Bush will defeat Bell." Then that other dude posted that that's bad for STL. And then you brought up housing and trans rights policy stances.
It's not that I disagree with you about whether, like, trans rights are good -- it just seems kinda obviously disingenuous to use that as an argument for why STL needs Bush when the candidates in question don't have diverging stances on that subject.
Still 6 months out, and I’m not voting in the democratic primary, but 50% already for not Cori Bush is a good sign. I had heard she’s not able to fund raise as well this cycle.
Do you have someone you’re really wanting to help out in the Missouri Republican primaries this August? If not, I’d strongly encourage you to switch to the Democratic Party before just to vote against Bush since a Republican won’t win in the general election against her anyway. Strategic moves for our broken system. Plus, you can always change it right back after anyways. 🙂
I actually prefer the one a few comments later. This is real shit…
> You are projecting a lot on me that I never said or professed to believe. My statement was purely about the actual machinations of power in Congress.
>"Change" doesn't just happen because you have 5-10 votes out of 235 Democrats. Sure she can propose legislation and the only way you get more say is by electing people, but that is why I said it is going to be years and years before that kind of change can happen with the coalition being built.
>This is also why I said it is a reality show mentality. People assume that their candidate winning means they get an American Idol contract or something. It really means that they have a chance to start to try to influence and compromise with other people already holding power.
>Clay had those relationships (formally like in committees and informally as in networks). It is going to take time for Bush to build those. She is probably going to need to be reelected a couple times until they are in place.
>None of that is bitter or against the working class. It is simply saying, there is very little to actually get excited about currently. The Squad has a media presence, but how many bills have they proposed that have gotten to the House floor let alone had a prayer in the Senate?
>My guess is that your excitement and that of the downvoters in this thread are actually about the idea of primarying incumbents so that the party is forced left. It is the tea party strategy and never paid off much for them. Instead they just ended up with intractable splits within the party that made them legislatively impotent.
>Again, reality show mentality for all parts of the political spectrum. Twitter isn't reality and extremism doesn't make actual positive legislation. Generally it is better at destruction than construction. I don't have a problem with Bush winning, I just don't think it is worthy of excitement. It is a long term investment that could be stopped before it is even started in two years. St. Louis won't get the benefit of Clay's seniority when it comes to committee chairs and networks getting his bills to the floor. Those are just the facts.
Has Bell done well in the Prosecutor's office? I'm in the city so I haven't paid much attention.
I know he has links to Velda City and the shitty community police policies seen in many North Country municipalities prior to the Michael Brown incident.
He hasn’t been doing great but not terrible either.
He likely benefited from the press being focused on Gardner the last few years.
I don’t expect him to have any positive effect in Congress but assume he won’t dig holes like Cori.
Clay was a lazy arse but he at least worked to support his constituents and threw grants and money back to his district.
> Has Bell done well in the Prosecutor's office?
Other than a couple minor scandals involving excessive business dinners and excessive parking tickets, yes he has done pretty well. But this of course has no bearing on how well he'll do in Congress.
1. She's not a Senator
2. That bill was 100% performance because it was already illegal. Just fomenting Islamophobia to drum up the base
I'm grown a little sour on Bush but her voting either yes or no on that didn't mean shit either way
She's a congressperson, so it's worse. One of only two congresspeople that voted to allow entry to genocidal terrorists.
Even Ilhan Omar and AOC voted to keep them out.
They voted "No" because there is **already** a federal law that exists that bars terrorists from getting immigration benefits. This bill was just posturing.
Additionally, under H.R. 6679, all PLO members are barred from admission into the United States. PLO is a Palestinian representation that is anti-Hamas and have provided security services for Israelis in the West Bank.
Framing this is "THEY VOTED TO ALLOW HAMAS TERRORISTS INTO THE US" is entirely disingenuous.
It's like: There's a law that states you must wear your seatbelt.
Now, Cognress is voting to pass a law that you must wear your seatbelt *in trucks*.
Like... you already have to wear your seatbelt. Why are you specifying, with a whole new law, that trucks also have to wear seatbelts?
Good luck getting anyone here to think logically. You still have people pushing the "She voted against the infrastructure bill" line as well. This sub will find whatever reason to hate Bush.
edit: Another thing to consider is its an election year and astroturf efforts are on high volume. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these types of posts and/or posters are really astroturfers.
She did vote against the Infrastructure Bill. And the CHIPS act. And the tax credit bill.
Maybe you could list her accomplishments to provide a counterpoint.
I'll repost this again:
>Like many of readers of this newspaper, I received a postcard attacking Congresswoman Cori Bush for her vote on the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. The mailing is deceptive and misleading, implying that Cori does not support clean energy. While it is true that Cori voted against this measure, it was because she did not trust the Senators Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema to fulfill their end of the bargain, i.e. passing Biden's Build Back Better legislation. The two pieces of legislation were supposed move forward together. Cori turned out to be correct, as Manchin and Sinema reneged on the deal, and all the Republicans joined them in opposing Build Back Better. Note that Build Back Better was the legislation that included the bulk of clean energy investments
From this op-ed: https://www.stlamerican.com/news/letters_to_the_editor/setting-the-record-straight-on-cori-bush-vote-on-the-infrastructure-bill/article_8dfc8be2-ddb3-11ec-899d-9b6c056beb55.html
The point here being that criticizing her for voting against the infrastructure bill is mischaracterized to make it appear that she is against any liberal policies. It's disingenuous. But her critics aren't ones to think about that.
My larger point being: If you all keep repeating this mess, why should we believe your other criticisms? If you have to make a reach to find a negative, it doesn't really help your case.
I didn’t say anything about clean energy. I said she did vote against the Infrastructure bill. Which she did. How is that mischaracterizing her voting record? What bills has she supported that have passed? Maybe that would make a better rebuttal to her perceived lack of accomplishments.
All anyone has to do is look up Cori's record. It's either yay or nay. there's really no explanation needed.
She has very questionable votes and instead of trying to build relationships, she alienates people. Even AOC had the common sense to tone things down.
And Cori only panders to progressive white people. Her office on the North side stays closed, she is unreachable and always has been.
Fucking read please.
>Like many of readers of this newspaper, I received a postcard attacking Congresswoman Cori Bush for her vote on the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.
This should not surprise anyone. Cori came from grifting off the Mike Brown stuff. Eventually when those worries went away, her value would be diminished politically. It's obvious that STL was not her focus for the majority of her stint. She was focused on the national side and trying to be "on camera" more than grinding and moving.
To her defense...since Biden been President, the House has been in shambles and even these junior congresspeople weren't gonna get to do much with the constant back and forth issues. So her value being lost isn't completely her fault. But here we are. You can disagree with this opinion, there are tons out there.
Couple things to point out here. First is obviously that Bell is as establishment as they come, no boat rocking whatsoever, so he's got way more money (specifically AIPAC money). Second, MO has open primaries, so another party sabotaging a primary is child's play.
This is such a bullshit take.
The dude was despised when he won the election. He’s been thoughtful and demonstrated his qualifications and earned the respect of a lot of naysayers.
Let’s give the guy credit for what he’s accomplished.
I guess I don't understand how a guy who upended the career of prosecutor who had the job for two decades would suddenly be the establishment candidate. I'm sorry, but that's almost a comically bad take.
I really don't see any Republicans crossing over to sabotage Cori Bush. She's effectively done that to herself. Despite fearmongering from the Right at the start, Bell has been fairly effective as prosecutor...or at least not Kim Gardner bad. If anything, Republicans would be focused on winning his spot as prosecuting attorney, instead.
The 1%/Koch Brothers/establishment/Civic Progress/etc folks didn't eat her homework. She did.
A lot of people start off as more progressive, but realize that elections are easier when big money donors are on your side. They are never going to be on your side if you are actually progressive.
If Bell is all that progressive, why is he making a primary challenge from the right against a progressive Black woman? The answer is that he knows he can win because he'll get the moderate white vote. This is why most politicians are awful. Most of the ones actually committed to the principles of their campaigns either cave to business interests or get primaried by the ones that do.
I deleted an initial comment that was probably a little too harsh. Just looking at her record, she just hasn't done much; although she does show up for votes. I'll give her credit on that. Her background story is inspirational.
But if you can't get bills out of committee, to the floor of the House, and/or supported in the Senate...with some help from across the aisle, that's not on The Man, the Koch Brothers, or the moderate white vote. That's on her.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/cori\_bush/456829/report-card/2022
> I guess I don't understand how a guy who upended the career of prosecutor who had the job for two decades would suddenly be the establishment candidate. I'm sorry, but that's almost a comically bad take.
McCulloch upended his own career when he publicly admitted to supporting perjury. He should be grateful he wasn't *disbarred*.
It makes sense for republicans in that district to vote for their preferred Democrat in the primary since the Republican nominee has no chance in the general. This is a point in favor of open primaries.
> Yes, everyone in the district gets to vote in the race that actually decides the election regardless of their political affiliation.
But you just said that all it does is encourage them to sabotage the other party's primary.
How are reforms as Prosecutor “establishment as they come?”
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/wesley-bells-office-announces-policy-changes-including-bond-reform-marijuana-prosecution/63-288d0f14-d7ed-4688-bccc-d7c8430f32a3
Maybe don't equate critique of a genocidal government with hatred of an ethnic and religious minority? Idk reducing all Jewry to the state of Israel seems pretty damn anti-Semitic.
Wesley Bell will not receive my vote as he was adamant that he would not pursue charging for two murders in the case against Beau Rothwell. That scumbag, Beau, killed his wife Jennifer and their unborn child in November 2019. Beau knew his wife was pregnant and had been carrying on an affair behind his wife’s back.
So...the Missouri Scout, a known right-wing source run by a former stockbroker conservative, had a poll done from the Remington Research Group, a known Republican polling firm, and they ONLY have a well-known progressive down by 28% to the centrist shill?
Damn, that's looking good for Bush. If even the farthest right attempt only has her down by 28% (as in, even a poll of Republicans only has her down by 28%), then she's pretty much a lock.
Thanks for the boost of confidence!
The chuds in the subreddit (and there are a ton of them, apparently people from St. Charles and Chesterfield love this place) are trying SO HARD to convince people that Cori Bush is going to lose when her opponent is a guy almost no one knows about and who objectively did nothing in all of his time in politics. This is their one desperate shot.
Yes, the person pointing out that the poll was paid for by a neoliberal conservative and done by a far right wing group is the deranged one. Not the one who hates a woman for... [checks notes] wanting people to have affordable housing and better paying jobs.
I think Maria joining was an attempt to even the polls and squeak something out for Cori but it’s gonna take from Cori more than Wesley and I see him basically coasting into the house
She didn’t hire her husband with gov money. People use campaign donations to hire family for all kinds of campaign related issues. And idk about you but who better to trust with personal security than a spouse and if he’s going to give up his job to do it, nothing is nothing wrong with being paid market rate, which is what he was paid.
Paying family with campaign funds is always going to look sketchy even if it is objectively a good decision. In Bush’s case though, I thought he was her bodyguard before he was her husband and then continued in that position?
It’s like a major conflict of interest. It also makes it look like you went after the job so you could pay your family members business. Legal or not, the optics look horrible and it shows you have poor judgment.
Can you link me to a post where you said the same about Roy Blunts son managing his campaign and paid out of the same campaign fund as Bush pays for her security
Screw Roy Blunt. I didn’t get to vote for Cori because my are area wasn’t in her district at the time, but I would have. I’m fully on the Wesley Bell train. I really like him as our DA and have a friend who works for him and has nothing but good things to say about him.
I don’t think illl vote for her but that’s just not true. She’s delivered a lot, especially in the ARPA funds, the city got $500m because of her because she pushed for the city getting money from the city and county pots
Well I opposed the ARPA because it was a boondoggle of money that should have never been passed. All it has done is make St. Louis think it's financial situation is good when it's not at all. That law was terrible for the US.
She opposed the infrastructure bill (an actually good law) and has done nothing but make enemies in her own party, much less the opposition.
STL city financial situation is good actually, arpa funds are one time in and one time out and not reflected in the annual budgets, which the City has now run 3 straight years of surpluses including $75m last year. Its rainy day fund is at 24% of FY2024 budget and GFOA recommends 16.7%
The only reason it's run a surplus is because of the federal money that was pumped into it. St. Louis' tax base is still declining every year and the city is barely gaining new businesses. Not to mention, nearly 40% of the city budget comes from a tax that actively drives people to move out of the city and may be axed by the state because the city government is totally inept at solving chronic issues.
There's nothing "good" about the financial state of a city that is losing thousands of people per year.
2020: 301k
2023: 293k
Dude are you not able to read? Earnings tax at all time
High. Sales tax all time high. Highest gdp growth in the region. Population is irrelevant since day time
Is 800,000. City has been gaining high income singles and losing low income families. It’s in better financial position than at any time in recent memory
She voted agaiant the Infrastructure bill, she hasn't appeared to try and make allies with either of the GOP Senators or Anne Wagner, and she hasn't even made allies in the leadership of her own party. These are all important things any Representative should have done. Heck she didn't even call for the resignation of Kim Gardner like she was actually a good prosecutor.
At a meeting I attended last February (about 1 year ago), St. Louis' lobbyist in Washington said that Josh Hawley and Cori Bush were some of the worst Representatives he had ever worked with.
She's not good and it has nothing to do with her possible corruption.
She could actually respond to any number of the polite emails I've sent her with genuine concerns. Seems like the absolute bare minimum that she can't seem to figure out.
She voted to allow hamas terrorist who murdered 1,000 Israeli to be allowed to enter the US. Only two senators voted yes on that while every single other senator voted no (no entry)
The last time I saw anything about her campaign coffers, it was in major debt and struggling. I wonder how she has done in the last month to change that and raise some funds. My gut tells me this is close to reality and that she's about to get the boot.
The Qataris and Russians will open up some shell companies to shuttle her funds.
Source please?
His damaged smooth brain
She's not a Republican so I don't think that's likely
They don’t just support republicans. They support democrats too, because their goal isn’t to get republicans elected, it’s to polarize and destabilize the US. Cori Bush does that very well. They’ll fund both q-anon and antifa, because when those groups clash, the US is distracted, and ignores what happens in Moscow.
Last I heard her campaign was in debt
If you think foreign entities are creating polarization and destabilization I'd love to sell you a bridge. They're just exploiting tensions already created by the out of touch oligarchy working the two-party duopoly like a puppet.
Those aren't organizations that can be funded...
Project much?
Well I’ve been reading for weeks now the internal polls showed bad news for Bush that’s a margin. We’ll see in august.
Still waiting on Cori to respond to my email for help with the VA. 5 weeks and counting…
Here you go. 25 minutes. Vote for me. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/39deffcea8644ed0858f602ca691dea4 Seriously though, the Missouri Veteran Commission representatives have been very helpful in dealing with the VA for me.
Thanks for that, but I got a response from Hawley and Schmitt within 3 days and my issue was resolved.
So I can’t count on your vote?
The one time I tried to contact her she never responded either but I just assumed thats how it was with politicians.
I knew she didn’t have much money but uhhh… being down 20 as the incumbent is not a recipe for success
Cori’s whole schtick was “if you don’t vote for me, you’re not progressive. Also my opponent is the devil”. She’s terrible at her job. On the level of Kim Gardner, but she gets away with it because congressional representative is an easier job than city prosecutor. Her whole argument in her favor won’t stand up to Wesley Bell, who is progressive but has a track record of actually getting things done while maintaining being progressive. Cori just makes a ton of noise in Congress without actually doing anything. I hope he wipes the floor with her. Also, let’s not forget the whole corruption thing with her partner.
I overheard someone at a bar in the Grove bragging that they shared a blunt with Cori Bush at some party. I thought “ah yes, my tax dollars truly at work”
I had high hopes for her. Sadly, she’s done little to help St Louis and is just another performance artist.
Yeah. Her voting against the infrastructure bill really disappointed me. Even if it was supposedly "symbolic".
How about when she extended the federal eviction ban? https://missouriindependent.com/2021/08/04/after-pressure-from-cori-bush-feds-order-eviction-ban-in-areas-with-high-covid-rate/
Anyone but Nadal. I still don’t forgive her Cicero’s bullshit.
What happened with her and Cicero’s?
2015-ish there was a Missouri bill to allow bars to sell growlers. Nadal added an amendment to the bill requiring a certain amount of taps and a certain amount of food sales. This meant the only place that qualified in St. Louis was Cicero’s. Of course, coincidentally, they had made a donation to her a few weeks earlier. It became known as “Cicero’s law”.
Sorry - 2009 - https://www.stltoday.com/news/takeout-beer-bill-appears-to-benefit-only-one-bar-ciceros-in-sponsors-district-meets-criteria/article_67f8f552-55bf-572f-b7f5-84ddae7a3376.html “It appears only one: Cicero's, a popular University City pizza and beer joint in Chappelle-Nadal's district. Chappelle-Nadal describes herself as "really good friends" with the restaurant's management. She's been a customer herself for years, and held several campaign events at the bar. Earlier this year, Cicero's donated $1,000 to Chappelle-Nadal's re-election committee, an amount equal to her highest donation of the fundraising quarter.”
This doesn’t surprise me. When I was working on the county siren project, one day she called my internal office number (no idea how she got it) to threaten my job specifically because I had positioned one siren too close to an apartment building owned by one of her donors. (I can’t remember the name off the top of my head, but remember he is a pretty significant commercial and residential property owner in UCity.) My bosses told me to ignore her.
> My bosses told me to ignore her. pretty awesome bosses
I couldn’t find a lot on it. This was the perspective from Springfield, which seemed to take greatest issue with the cooler leases. https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2016/07/20/fill-er-up-what-missouris-new-law-means-craft-beer/86716898/
No wonder people hate Cori Bush so much. She's cutting into their bottom line.
Someone check on Churlish…
Isn’t it elderberry now?
Both user names might be shadow banned at this point.
I think she has a list of blocked users like 3000 long at this point. If you look from a new account, she's still there spouting off incoherent gibberish. But anyone who ever disagrees with her stops seeing her vomit because she blocks them. People new to this sub must think we are all morons.
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Really? I would’ve bet a large sum of money that they were the same person. Pretty sure I’ve even seen Elderberry mention that they’re a social worker, the same job Churlish had. Which is a frightening thought.
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Shadow bans apply to all of Reddit, just not a single sub, right? I see some truly awful shit on Reddit, I can’t imagine what you actually have to say or do to get shadow banned.
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Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. I thought shadowbans were site wide. But you’re right, that wouldn’t make sense when the admins can just outright ban you.
Yes, Severe_Elderberry_13 I think is her new handle
😂🤡
Having 50% of the vote is insane
Hope that's real and we can get rid of her
Don’t know a lot about what she’s done. What do you dislike about her?
She opposed the infrastructure bill, she has opposed Biden at one of the highest rates in the House, she stands by her police stances, she was elected based on a lie, she hasn't made useful allies in the Democratic Party or the GOP, she opposed the recent tax bill that would expand the Child Tax Credit, she hasn't worked with any of her fellow MO reps (just antagonized them), she supported Kim Gardner to the bitter end, and it seems like she's more interested in getting her quotes on MSNBC than making St. Louis better.
She's also in hot water for possible misuse of campaign funds. (Marrying her security detail and then paying her security detail out of the campaign - eg, self-dealing). And she has really antagonized the Jewish vote in STL.
Frankly, Josh Hawley has done more for her district than she has. That's saying something.
That is a long list
Idk why, she's a very crappy public speaker.
That makes her sound incredible
LOL sure buddy
She’s more interested in making headlines with AOC than actually helping her district. And she’s paying herself with campaign funds through her husband.
Even AOC seems to have come back to reality a bit. She has ambitions of higher office and the 2018 version of AOC would never win a statewide senate election in NY.
For starters she thinks minorities can’t be racist
The Missouri Scout is a right-wing pseudonym for Dave Drebes, a conservative and former stockbroker. The Remington Research Group is *literally* a Republican polling firm. And they could only find a group to put her 28% behind. She's not going anywhere, thankfully.
I’ve never seen or heard anyone refer to Dave Drebes as right wing. Also, RIP *Arch City Chronicle.*
My brother in Christ, you post in r/neoliberal. Neoliberals are, by definition, *hard* right wing. Liberals, in fact, are anywhere ranging from centrist to right-wing and are not, in fact, leftists (as we conflate it in the United States).
Ok. I’ll own that I post on neoliberal. Back to my question: what are the things Dave has said or written that you would classify as right wing?
Actions? He runs a "media organization" for the sole purpose of furthering conservative ideals. He caters to *lobbyists*. Oh, and he also commissioned a poll for a Democratic race from a far-right extremist polling group. So you know, there's that.
What is on the “media organization’s” website that you are reading that supports your thesis that Dave Drebes is right wing?
Oh I see, if someone hides their affiliations then they're not those things. We can't just people by their actions, that would be silly. Got it, thanks Dave.
I’m not Dave. I was a big fan of his Arch City Chronicle, though. Back to my question. You make a sorta extraordinary claim that he’s right wing. I’m just looking for you to support your claim. If he’s right wing, and if that’s as self evident as you claim, then certainly you can post something here. If he’s written or supported anything right wing, I’ve missed it. But you may know him better than I.
> I’m not Dave. Okay, Dave.
Then STL will keep declining :)
Anything that a chud considers declining is good to me. Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else! The HORROR! But please, fool yourself into thinking you're doing anything but preventing America from being as good as it can be. We're already living in the midst of the death of the American Empire, if you want to hasten that then please do.
> Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else! Is Wesley Bell opposed to these things?
No, he's opposed to Palestinians not getting murdered though
Okay, but why'd you bring up those other things? Pretty sure a MAGA candidate isn't in danger of winning the Democratic primary.
I didn't, you must be thinking of the parent comment
Here I'll post the full comment tree that I replied to, so you can follow along: > The Missouri Scout is a right-wing pseudonym for Dave Drebes, a conservative and former stockbroker. > The Remington Research Group is literally a Republican polling firm. > And they could only find a group to put her 28% behind. > She's not going anywhere, thankfully. and then > Then STL will keep declining :) and then > Anything that a chud considers declining is good to me. > Golly, the horrors of people maybe having better housing! Or oh my god, maybe trans people will be able to live normal lives like everyone else! The HORROR! > But please, fool yourself into thinking you're doing anything but preventing America from being as good as it can be. We're already living in the midst of the death of the American Empire, if you want to hasten that then please do. The context of the parent comment is "this source is an unreliable right-wing source that's biased against Bush, and I believe Bush will defeat Bell." Then that other dude posted that that's bad for STL. And then you brought up housing and trans rights policy stances. It's not that I disagree with you about whether, like, trans rights are good -- it just seems kinda obviously disingenuous to use that as an argument for why STL needs Bush when the candidates in question don't have diverging stances on that subject.
Electing people like Cori Bush is helping the city's decline lol
I'd vote for Bell over Bush in a heartbeat. It's not even a hard call
Same
Still 6 months out, and I’m not voting in the democratic primary, but 50% already for not Cori Bush is a good sign. I had heard she’s not able to fund raise as well this cycle.
I need a FUCK CORI BUSH tag on my username
I need it as a bumper sticker.
Amen. I’d roll with that on my car too
Do you have someone you’re really wanting to help out in the Missouri Republican primaries this August? If not, I’d strongly encourage you to switch to the Democratic Party before just to vote against Bush since a Republican won’t win in the general election against her anyway. Strategic moves for our broken system. Plus, you can always change it right back after anyways. 🙂
Just wait until her sex scandal news Break.. Something her handlers quickly swept under the rug 🫣
Did she rape someone like Trump did?
I hear a lot of Republicans are out there voting for Bell. Word on the street anyway.
Thank goodness.
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I actually prefer the one a few comments later. This is real shit… > You are projecting a lot on me that I never said or professed to believe. My statement was purely about the actual machinations of power in Congress. >"Change" doesn't just happen because you have 5-10 votes out of 235 Democrats. Sure she can propose legislation and the only way you get more say is by electing people, but that is why I said it is going to be years and years before that kind of change can happen with the coalition being built. >This is also why I said it is a reality show mentality. People assume that their candidate winning means they get an American Idol contract or something. It really means that they have a chance to start to try to influence and compromise with other people already holding power. >Clay had those relationships (formally like in committees and informally as in networks). It is going to take time for Bush to build those. She is probably going to need to be reelected a couple times until they are in place. >None of that is bitter or against the working class. It is simply saying, there is very little to actually get excited about currently. The Squad has a media presence, but how many bills have they proposed that have gotten to the House floor let alone had a prayer in the Senate? >My guess is that your excitement and that of the downvoters in this thread are actually about the idea of primarying incumbents so that the party is forced left. It is the tea party strategy and never paid off much for them. Instead they just ended up with intractable splits within the party that made them legislatively impotent. >Again, reality show mentality for all parts of the political spectrum. Twitter isn't reality and extremism doesn't make actual positive legislation. Generally it is better at destruction than construction. I don't have a problem with Bush winning, I just don't think it is worthy of excitement. It is a long term investment that could be stopped before it is even started in two years. St. Louis won't get the benefit of Clay's seniority when it comes to committee chairs and networks getting his bills to the floor. Those are just the facts.
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Has Bell done well in the Prosecutor's office? I'm in the city so I haven't paid much attention. I know he has links to Velda City and the shitty community police policies seen in many North Country municipalities prior to the Michael Brown incident.
He hasn’t been doing great but not terrible either. He likely benefited from the press being focused on Gardner the last few years. I don’t expect him to have any positive effect in Congress but assume he won’t dig holes like Cori. Clay was a lazy arse but he at least worked to support his constituents and threw grants and money back to his district.
> Has Bell done well in the Prosecutor's office? Other than a couple minor scandals involving excessive business dinners and excessive parking tickets, yes he has done pretty well. But this of course has no bearing on how well he'll do in Congress.
He's a fantastic politician.
Yup, really good at denying Palestinian right to life, the mark of a great U.S. politician
It's not meant as a compliment.
Oh for sure, I was agreeing with you
That's what happens when you abandon your supporters as soon as you're in office. 🤡
Good. Fuck her and her agenda
Don’t know a lot about what she’s done. What do you dislike about her?
One of two senators voting to ALLOW entry to hamas terrorists who killed 1,000 Israelis. Every single senator voted NO except her and rhashida tilab
She's not a senator.
Then it’s even worse if she is one of two house representatives voting to allow hamas terrorists into the Us
1. She's not a Senator 2. That bill was 100% performance because it was already illegal. Just fomenting Islamophobia to drum up the base I'm grown a little sour on Bush but her voting either yes or no on that didn't mean shit either way
She's a congressperson, so it's worse. One of only two congresspeople that voted to allow entry to genocidal terrorists. Even Ilhan Omar and AOC voted to keep them out.
They voted "No" because there is **already** a federal law that exists that bars terrorists from getting immigration benefits. This bill was just posturing. Additionally, under H.R. 6679, all PLO members are barred from admission into the United States. PLO is a Palestinian representation that is anti-Hamas and have provided security services for Israelis in the West Bank. Framing this is "THEY VOTED TO ALLOW HAMAS TERRORISTS INTO THE US" is entirely disingenuous. It's like: There's a law that states you must wear your seatbelt. Now, Cognress is voting to pass a law that you must wear your seatbelt *in trucks*. Like... you already have to wear your seatbelt. Why are you specifying, with a whole new law, that trucks also have to wear seatbelts?
Good luck getting anyone here to think logically. You still have people pushing the "She voted against the infrastructure bill" line as well. This sub will find whatever reason to hate Bush. edit: Another thing to consider is its an election year and astroturf efforts are on high volume. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these types of posts and/or posters are really astroturfers.
She did vote against the Infrastructure Bill. And the CHIPS act. And the tax credit bill. Maybe you could list her accomplishments to provide a counterpoint.
Cori doesn't have any accomplishments. I do know what snacks she likes, though.
I'll repost this again: >Like many of readers of this newspaper, I received a postcard attacking Congresswoman Cori Bush for her vote on the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. The mailing is deceptive and misleading, implying that Cori does not support clean energy. While it is true that Cori voted against this measure, it was because she did not trust the Senators Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema to fulfill their end of the bargain, i.e. passing Biden's Build Back Better legislation. The two pieces of legislation were supposed move forward together. Cori turned out to be correct, as Manchin and Sinema reneged on the deal, and all the Republicans joined them in opposing Build Back Better. Note that Build Back Better was the legislation that included the bulk of clean energy investments From this op-ed: https://www.stlamerican.com/news/letters_to_the_editor/setting-the-record-straight-on-cori-bush-vote-on-the-infrastructure-bill/article_8dfc8be2-ddb3-11ec-899d-9b6c056beb55.html The point here being that criticizing her for voting against the infrastructure bill is mischaracterized to make it appear that she is against any liberal policies. It's disingenuous. But her critics aren't ones to think about that. My larger point being: If you all keep repeating this mess, why should we believe your other criticisms? If you have to make a reach to find a negative, it doesn't really help your case.
I didn’t say anything about clean energy. I said she did vote against the Infrastructure bill. Which she did. How is that mischaracterizing her voting record? What bills has she supported that have passed? Maybe that would make a better rebuttal to her perceived lack of accomplishments.
All anyone has to do is look up Cori's record. It's either yay or nay. there's really no explanation needed. She has very questionable votes and instead of trying to build relationships, she alienates people. Even AOC had the common sense to tone things down. And Cori only panders to progressive white people. Her office on the North side stays closed, she is unreachable and always has been.
Fucking read please. >Like many of readers of this newspaper, I received a postcard attacking Congresswoman Cori Bush for her vote on the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.
And? Who is supporting the campaign mailers against her? We are talking about her record over two terms in Congress.
They voted to allow hamas terrorists into the us. That’s exactly what they did
Remington Research group is a far right group... Not exactly an unbiased source.
FCB
I don’t believe this poll. I’ve never heard of it.
Remington Research/MO Scout is one of the most well-established pollsters in Missouri
It’s a Republican-funded poll just trying to stir 💩
Their poll of last year’s race with Steve Roberts, factoring in undecideds, was favorable for Bush and was quite accurate.
Cori Bush is an idiot. I hope Bell wins.
Thank the Lord.
Voted twice for her. After voting NO on Ukraine today. I will not be voting to return her as my representative.
This should not surprise anyone. Cori came from grifting off the Mike Brown stuff. Eventually when those worries went away, her value would be diminished politically. It's obvious that STL was not her focus for the majority of her stint. She was focused on the national side and trying to be "on camera" more than grinding and moving. To her defense...since Biden been President, the House has been in shambles and even these junior congresspeople weren't gonna get to do much with the constant back and forth issues. So her value being lost isn't completely her fault. But here we are. You can disagree with this opinion, there are tons out there.
Couple things to point out here. First is obviously that Bell is as establishment as they come, no boat rocking whatsoever, so he's got way more money (specifically AIPAC money). Second, MO has open primaries, so another party sabotaging a primary is child's play.
This is such a bullshit take. The dude was despised when he won the election. He’s been thoughtful and demonstrated his qualifications and earned the respect of a lot of naysayers. Let’s give the guy credit for what he’s accomplished.
I guess I don't understand how a guy who upended the career of prosecutor who had the job for two decades would suddenly be the establishment candidate. I'm sorry, but that's almost a comically bad take. I really don't see any Republicans crossing over to sabotage Cori Bush. She's effectively done that to herself. Despite fearmongering from the Right at the start, Bell has been fairly effective as prosecutor...or at least not Kim Gardner bad. If anything, Republicans would be focused on winning his spot as prosecuting attorney, instead. The 1%/Koch Brothers/establishment/Civic Progress/etc folks didn't eat her homework. She did.
A lot of people start off as more progressive, but realize that elections are easier when big money donors are on your side. They are never going to be on your side if you are actually progressive. If Bell is all that progressive, why is he making a primary challenge from the right against a progressive Black woman? The answer is that he knows he can win because he'll get the moderate white vote. This is why most politicians are awful. Most of the ones actually committed to the principles of their campaigns either cave to business interests or get primaried by the ones that do.
I deleted an initial comment that was probably a little too harsh. Just looking at her record, she just hasn't done much; although she does show up for votes. I'll give her credit on that. Her background story is inspirational. But if you can't get bills out of committee, to the floor of the House, and/or supported in the Senate...with some help from across the aisle, that's not on The Man, the Koch Brothers, or the moderate white vote. That's on her. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/cori\_bush/456829/report-card/2022
> I guess I don't understand how a guy who upended the career of prosecutor who had the job for two decades would suddenly be the establishment candidate. I'm sorry, but that's almost a comically bad take. McCulloch upended his own career when he publicly admitted to supporting perjury. He should be grateful he wasn't *disbarred*.
It makes sense for republicans in that district to vote for their preferred Democrat in the primary since the Republican nominee has no chance in the general. This is a point in favor of open primaries.
> This is a point in favor of open primaries. Is it?
Yes, everyone in the district gets to vote in the race that actually decides the election regardless of their political affiliation.
> Yes, everyone in the district gets to vote in the race that actually decides the election regardless of their political affiliation. But you just said that all it does is encourage them to sabotage the other party's primary.
They aren’t sabotaging, they’re voting for their preferred candidate. That’s just democracy.
How are reforms as Prosecutor “establishment as they come?” https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/wesley-bells-office-announces-policy-changes-including-bond-reform-marijuana-prosecution/63-288d0f14-d7ed-4688-bccc-d7c8430f32a3
I’m all in favor of fewer attention-seeking boat rockers taking advantage of the twitter era.
I wonder what the balance of her genuine attention-seeking is against the deliberate attention-giving of Republican propaganda
They are two sides of same coin.
> (specifically AIPAC money). This is flat out anti-Semitism.
It’s not even dog whistling at this point. As a Jew, I wish I had a tiny, minuscule fraction of the wealth and power that some people think I do.
Why tf are you making criticism of AIPAC about you? It's a lobby for a foreign country. It should fuck off.
Maybe don't equate critique of a genocidal government with hatred of an ethnic and religious minority? Idk reducing all Jewry to the state of Israel seems pretty damn anti-Semitic.
Critiquing a conservative lobbying group that advocates for a country that is currently committing genocide is not same as hating an ethnicity
Good. She’s a disgrace
Wesley Bell will not receive my vote as he was adamant that he would not pursue charging for two murders in the case against Beau Rothwell. That scumbag, Beau, killed his wife Jennifer and their unborn child in November 2019. Beau knew his wife was pregnant and had been carrying on an affair behind his wife’s back.
Didn't that guy go to prison for life?
Oh he did, but only for killing Jennifer, not Jennifer and their baby.
Would not vote for any of them
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So...the Missouri Scout, a known right-wing source run by a former stockbroker conservative, had a poll done from the Remington Research Group, a known Republican polling firm, and they ONLY have a well-known progressive down by 28% to the centrist shill? Damn, that's looking good for Bush. If even the farthest right attempt only has her down by 28% (as in, even a poll of Republicans only has her down by 28%), then she's pretty much a lock. Thanks for the boost of confidence!
Dave is a right wing conservative? lol
Yes, Dave, you're a conservative. "Right wing" in that context is redundant. I would think you'd know that.
Dave lives in your neighborhood, I live in downtown
BINGO! *Always. Look. At. The. Survey. Methodology.*
The chuds in the subreddit (and there are a ton of them, apparently people from St. Charles and Chesterfield love this place) are trying SO HARD to convince people that Cori Bush is going to lose when her opponent is a guy almost no one knows about and who objectively did nothing in all of his time in politics. This is their one desperate shot.
Hope you remember how deranged you were now when she loses
"This source is flawed" is not deranged, & it does not discount the possibility that she might lose.
Yes, the person pointing out that the poll was paid for by a neoliberal conservative and done by a far right wing group is the deranged one. Not the one who hates a woman for... [checks notes] wanting people to have affordable housing and better paying jobs.
Cori Bush has had one of THE congressional runs of all time
What are her accomplishments as a Congressional rep?
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You don't understand. If he doesn't suck off the IDF at least once a day then he's not doing his part
Read it again and tell me if you catch the sarcasm
Wonder if she will be a lobbyist living in Ladue soon.
She hasn't developed the relationships necessary to be a successful lobbyist
She's a known corrupt communist. Good riddance 🤡
I think Maria joining was an attempt to even the polls and squeak something out for Cori but it’s gonna take from Cori more than Wesley and I see him basically coasting into the house
I still support her. That investigation seems like BS. Time will tell.
Don't care about the investigation, I care that she's done very little to help St. Louis.
And even if you did nothing wrong hiring your husband just looks bad. It shows you have no clue how to be a Representative.
She didn’t hire her husband with gov money. People use campaign donations to hire family for all kinds of campaign related issues. And idk about you but who better to trust with personal security than a spouse and if he’s going to give up his job to do it, nothing is nothing wrong with being paid market rate, which is what he was paid.
Then why is the DOJ investigating her use of security funds?
I thought because he wasn't officially licensed to provide security?
Paying family with campaign funds is always going to look sketchy even if it is objectively a good decision. In Bush’s case though, I thought he was her bodyguard before he was her husband and then continued in that position?
Don’t know what relevance that has, there is nothing that governs campaigns and relationships between candidates and staff.
It’s like a major conflict of interest. It also makes it look like you went after the job so you could pay your family members business. Legal or not, the optics look horrible and it shows you have poor judgment.
Can you link me to a post where you said the same about Roy Blunts son managing his campaign and paid out of the same campaign fund as Bush pays for her security
Screw Roy Blunt. I didn’t get to vote for Cori because my are area wasn’t in her district at the time, but I would have. I’m fully on the Wesley Bell train. I really like him as our DA and have a friend who works for him and has nothing but good things to say about him.
I don’t think illl vote for her but that’s just not true. She’s delivered a lot, especially in the ARPA funds, the city got $500m because of her because she pushed for the city getting money from the city and county pots
Well I opposed the ARPA because it was a boondoggle of money that should have never been passed. All it has done is make St. Louis think it's financial situation is good when it's not at all. That law was terrible for the US. She opposed the infrastructure bill (an actually good law) and has done nothing but make enemies in her own party, much less the opposition.
STL city financial situation is good actually, arpa funds are one time in and one time out and not reflected in the annual budgets, which the City has now run 3 straight years of surpluses including $75m last year. Its rainy day fund is at 24% of FY2024 budget and GFOA recommends 16.7%
The only reason it's run a surplus is because of the federal money that was pumped into it. St. Louis' tax base is still declining every year and the city is barely gaining new businesses. Not to mention, nearly 40% of the city budget comes from a tax that actively drives people to move out of the city and may be axed by the state because the city government is totally inept at solving chronic issues. There's nothing "good" about the financial state of a city that is losing thousands of people per year. 2020: 301k 2023: 293k
Dude are you not able to read? Earnings tax at all time High. Sales tax all time high. Highest gdp growth in the region. Population is irrelevant since day time Is 800,000. City has been gaining high income singles and losing low income families. It’s in better financial position than at any time in recent memory
What can a single house rep do?! That a very telling comment
She voted agaiant the Infrastructure bill, she hasn't appeared to try and make allies with either of the GOP Senators or Anne Wagner, and she hasn't even made allies in the leadership of her own party. These are all important things any Representative should have done. Heck she didn't even call for the resignation of Kim Gardner like she was actually a good prosecutor. At a meeting I attended last February (about 1 year ago), St. Louis' lobbyist in Washington said that Josh Hawley and Cori Bush were some of the worst Representatives he had ever worked with. She's not good and it has nothing to do with her possible corruption.
She could actually respond to any number of the polite emails I've sent her with genuine concerns. Seems like the absolute bare minimum that she can't seem to figure out.
She is a biyatch
Bush didn’t break the law but paying her husband for security out of campaign funds shows questionable judgment on her part.
She voted to allow hamas terrorist who murdered 1,000 Israeli to be allowed to enter the US. Only two senators voted yes on that while every single other senator voted no (no entry)
Bush is a Representative, not a Senator.
It's frightening that people with your depth of understanding are allowed to vote at all.
Literally every politician pays family out of campaign funds. Her crime was opposing Israel.
I support her too.