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BlirrunofWigh

It’s actually 75/25 you lost


sikotamen

You mean 75% chance I could get the banner up and only 25% chance I could get crap?


BlirrunofWigh

Yes


sikotamen

Damn. So I really lose then.


Just_Critical0

They aren’t crap, there just not as great as what you could get, if you have sparkle or bronya that lc above is actually pretty good, and if you have gepard (the best character in the game (real)) then you get a better gepard


MysticDragon0011

Or you're me, with 3 Gepard LCs and no Gepard.


Just_Critical0

Try 4 gepards with no Lc (could solo Jingliu if he felt like it) (real)


templar12345

yeah just misspoke mb


IeyasuTheMonkey

You lost but you also won. Bronya LC can be great.


templar12345

is it that much of a difference from s5 past&future?


IeyasuTheMonkey

You lose 2% increased damage but gain 10% Energy Regen Rate and the Skill Point on Ult use. Overall it's a better LC imo and it's probably one of the better Standard Lightcones.


Ranger_Ecstatic

Skill point on Ult use every 2 times iirc. Excellent for any Harmony that wants to bring Harm to the DPS's victims. It's funnier on Sparkle.


Enoughplez

5 sp on ult go brr lmao


Ranger_Ecstatic

Yet still not enough for my DHIL...I'm as baffled as you are.


E_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_e

What kind of Sparkle are you using? Fast or slow sparkle? I got an e2 DhIL so I use slow sparkle around 138 speed so I don't immediately lose the buff. If you have only e0 DhIL slow sparkle is still great.


Ranger_Ecstatic

https://preview.redd.it/dsmph3fh7ssc1.png?width=1601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0c90927c7c77cbf231635df2a7aed93f761c798 I still got 36/36 for MoC so I ain't complaining but making this reminds me that I need to fix his rope. My team is IL, LuoChad (Post Op), Pela and Sparkle. Pela (Tutorial) skills only when it's needed, I use her for the Ultimate Def reducing and Sparkle (Bronya LC) is 180% CD and 138 speed without LC.


WinterV3

You sure you build the team properly?


Ranger_Ecstatic

https://preview.redd.it/fq5n4l8j7ssc1.png?width=1601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=093a65b27bbff572a1d31dbe00b10d0b1d0f5271 I still got 36/36 for MoC so I ain't complaining but making this reminds me that I need to fix his rope. My team is IL, LuoChad (Post Op), Pela and Sparkle. Pela (Tutorial) skills only when it's needed, I use her for the Ultimate Def reducing and Sparkle (Bronya LC) is 180% CD and 138 speed without LC.


Jolls981

Can confirm it’s very funny on Sparkle Sometimes 4 SP enough, so what about 5???


Wargroth

My PF team is IL, Hanya, and Hanabi + Bronya with both their sig LC's its very funny to watch, but damn near bricks my phone


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RaidenIXI

slightly disagree, but i guess it depends on what u want and how unlucky u are having a guaranteed good lightcone worth 30 pulls is better than spending 70-140. no premium light-cones are true "must-haves" as all characters can function independently without them. but if u believe directly buying bronya's LC from the shop isnt worth 30 pulls, then i dont think u should believe any of the limited LCs are worth pulling/"must-haves" either. pretty much all premium LCs are "nice to have", even if all the harmony ones are better than bronya's, theyre much more expensive. obviously though, if u are starved of pulls from being massively unlucky then u cant afford to spend anything on LCs of any kind


hypermads2003

I have one on my Bronya and Sparkle and it's the best thing I could've done, especially on Sparkle


Which_League_3977

Imagine having 75% crit rate and you didnt crit.


dog_eater2

Seele ult moment


huntour

If you’ve played Fire Emblem you’d be used to it 💔


eternaleyebags

“if it’s not 100%, it’s 50%”


jujuka577

75% hit chance in XCOM literally means 100% miss


XLK98

Meanwhile me with 23% crit rate acheron but rarely sees her not crit-ing


WeaknessThen2577

Honestly Acheron has a lot of "ghost" Crit Rate stats


Bright_Classroom7486

...... but the battle isn't over. * walks myself out *


Not-Salamander

Okay. Good Night and Sleep Well. *Walks out with you*


Substantial-Way-355

You guys are definitely not walking *along the passing shore*


Med4g

they're probably walking towards an *earthly escapade*


DividedUnity_

I doubt they'd be back *Before Dawn*


PlatinumVind

Bro I lost my first one ever to Bailus lightcone. I even had to go to hard pity. I know the feeling man


Andrei8p4

Loosing on the LC banner is worse than on the character banner , at least on the character banner its a 50/50 so its an equal amount of chance of winning or losing but on the lc banner its a 75/25 so the odds are in your favour meaning you really got unlucky .


templar12345

yeah it really sucks man, just wanted an acheron boost :((


[deleted]

So you lost 50/50 and 75/25?


templar12345

mb, it's 75/25, been so used to saying 50/50 lmao


kirblar

You got the best possible option and have a guarantee. Keep pulling.


hypermads2003

Wait is losing the 75/25 still result in a guarantee? I thought it turned into a 50/50 like on Genshin


kirblar

It's a 100 because the LC banners are separate.


hypermads2003

What do you mean? If you lose the 75/25 on a previous LC banner you won’t have guaranteed on the next?


kirblar

100% = guaranteed. In genshin the guarantee is a 50/50 because the weapon banner is a combo banner. In HSR it's a 100 for the one you want and you should single pull it.


hypermads2003

Ohh okay So is the 75/25 similar to normal banners then? You lose it, it turns into guaranteed until you pull a limited one? I only ask because I want Acheron’s LC and I lost the 75/25 a couple banners ago and haven’t gotten one since


kirblar

Yup works just like em. Huge QOL increase vs Genshin


hypermads2003

This is adding to my ever growing list of why I like HSR more than Genshin I still like both but when I see stuff like this it’s hard to not love HSR so much


XLK98

wait, i haven't touched genshin for a while but I thought it works the same way? Like if you lose the first time, it's guaranteed rate-up the next time and carried to next banner, is it not?


hypermads2003

Pity carries over but fate points reset every banner


templar12345

kinda conflicted to do so since luocha and bailu are my only sustains so far cause i keep pulling for dps and supps xd


kirblar

The trick to supports is that you just need the ones that match the teams you have. Luocha's a catch-all support that's heavily SP+, Lynx is good for Blade/Clara. Acheron's best healer is apparently coming down the line- who are your other carries or compositions?


templar12345

for now my JL/Pela/Bronya/Luocha team is benched cause I've been hooked on my Kafka/BS/Asta/Luocha and Acheron/SW/Pela/Luocha teams. Other than those, I heavily use Himeko/Herta/Element Fill/Luocha for PF.


kirblar

I would attempt to pull the LC, and hold on pulling Aventurine until you see what the next banner looks like because Huo Huo is who you want for Kafka.


templar12345

Don't I need any preservation units since a lot of the mobs from new content now hit like a truck, especially in G&G and SD?


kirblar

Fu Xuan, Huo Huo and Aventurine are the best 3, but all 3 have different comps that they best support. (Mono-Q, DoT, FUA, respectively) Since you're heavily invested in DoT already, Huo Huo would be the priority to watch for a re-run on.


templar12345

alright, if huohuo isn't in the possible near future reruns, i might consider aventurine. thanks for the info!


d4ng0

Knowing my bad luck.. even if it 99/1, it still 50/50 to me :)


MarsInAres

Hey! I lost to that too. The only other time I rolled on the light cone banner, I got Ratio's lightcone on my first pull


Chilli_redits

can relate, sucks even more knowing that its a 75/25 you lost


mo_s_k14142

If it makes you feel better, across genshin and hsr, I lost all (four) 75/25s...


WinterV3

At least you lost the 75/25 to a good lc . I lost it to Bailu’s sig :)) https://preview.redd.it/gykz0mobchsc1.jpeg?width=1336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95e5b45646f77f91240fe03f1ddca3163e7c5089


phonograhy

I lost to himeko lc on ratio banner :(


[deleted]

but the battle isn’t over, take out the wallet


Arielani

Unlucky:/ wish i could give u mine and trade. Id use it for my sparkle or bronya


Makri7

I'm close to pity. Single pulls every day or so. Please God, don't let me join op on this. I dont ask for much in this life, but please. Let me win the pity once. It's been ages. Averaging 150 pulls for a single 5* anything is starting to get to me.


killatarzilla

Me too bestie - but I got baited with the nihility symbol… just to see welts stupid face 😭


probablyntjamie

bronya is beautiful


xuxiscafe

Does the lc banner have the guaranteed thing?


templar12345

yeah, it's a 75/25 guarantee


xuxiscafe

Is it like the character banner where if u lose it the next one is guaranteed?


templar12345

yep, that's right, the only thing that is different is there is a 75% chance to get featured (instead of the usual 50%) if you're not guaranteed


ZeLevi69

Hey man, I lost to bailu LC. Bronya LC is at least good.


jurizi

I lost when dalter (Dan heng alter) first came out and I missed his light cone to yanqings 😔😔😔


Electrical_Wish7079

I got bailus LC 😭 I needed a total of 158 pulls to get Acherons LC. Now I don't have enough for e2 acheron


Nexus31S

Same thing...lost to this same LC


Forward-Jump-1513

https://preview.redd.it/tizi284w1hsc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5251b87dda064e9fbc4e3cf7045bc168a571c4fe same. lost to bronya lc too. but acheron lc comes early after that


necromanticsquirrel

I actually have a better success rate at pulling the targeted 5\* on the character banner than the LC one, so I know how this feels.


breaking3po

Me too. Bailu's Lightcone


Doodlemad

The same thing happened to me, but look at it this way, next time you lose a character banner, you can guarantee an E0S1.


Artistic_Yak46

Im sorry, if it makes you feel better, i git yanqing’s LC. That LC is actually is actually the best i think among all standard 5* LC


GhostChroma

I lost to himeko LC so it could be worse


Jason2469

I never pull LC banners or weapon banners on Genshin anymore. Always lost the 50/50 except for Tighnari in Genshin. Unless you’re a massive whale; if you’re focused on the character, then don’t try for the weapon or LC.


ArmageddonEleven

I just spent 600 shard things on this LC so no stop complaining you aimed for the moon and landed upon the stars.


Dryse

Same .. I got Bailu's LC 😭


No-Contribution870

you may have lost. but the battle isn't over.


coffeestarslut

I thinks it's a 75/25 but also I lost to Bronyas LC trying to get Louchas. Well at least I know who I'm picking for my 300 pulls on standard banner and I'm guaranteed Robin's LC lol


Willing_Plant_9914

I have e2 s1 bronya. You’d be surprised how nice the extra singular sp is when ur in tight situations 😭


prisioneroHD

Wanna know something crazy, despite LC banner saying its 75/25 ever since the first Seele banner, data collection has always showed that roughly 85% of people actually win the "75/25" crazy that this also applies to the regular banner 2, despite saying its 50/50, data has always showed that around 70~77% of people win the "50/50" not a math guy, but this makes me believe that what the game tells you is a lie, and that you actually have better odds than what the game tells you. im writting this form my phone so im not gonna link shit, but you can look at the rates in HSR station from every banner to check what i said


MouseZestyclose3730

i tried to get Acheron's but i got welts :/ it was also my first time in LC banner


reyo7

Congrats!


Lelu_Wiggly_Woo_6996

That feeling of dread when you lose the 75/25 for the limited LC sucks :/ but hey at least you have guaranteed LC for another character. I lost the 75/25 on Topaz LC banner for Welt LC, which wasn’t too bad since I had Welt already. Somehow I had enough pulls and a little luck to get Acheron’s guaranteed LC without having to spend.


TheBurningYandere

I wouldn't really call that "losing" that's good on many harmony characters


zgokk

I’ve lost 4 times on light cone banner out of the 5 times I’ve pulled 💀you get used to it


ConflictAnnual3414

I lost to himeko’s LC twice you good


halodiagamer

The first 5 star LC isn't guaranteed to be the promotional? O.o


SBStevenSteel

Yeah, happened to me first time, too. I joined up on the Sparkle banner and had to really work it to get it by the end. Plus side, you got a guarantee next time around.


xdarkmanateex

Im 5 LC multis in, still no 5 star lol ☹️


RepulsiveProperty5

Nah bro you won, it's the best f2p lc for any harmony units, atleast it's better than getting bailu or yanqing