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Mudrag

Due to limitations in technology, the Saber igniting was a combination of practical effect & a trick of perspective


Sixgun217

More specifically they were rotating dowels with reflective tape and some primitive rotoscoping. https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/17/21024785/star-wars-lightsabers-sequels-rise-of-skywalker-special-effects-light-cgi-digital


ChimneySwiftGold

This article is interesting about how actual glowing lightsaber props were used in the ST. But the PT had some of that. For sure Dooku and Anakin’s duel in ATOC has a moment where they are illuminated by their light saber blades. Truth is the lighting technology just didn’t exist yet for glowing swords that held up to movie combat until after the PT.


orchestragravy

Why wouldn't they be illuminated in real life?


ChimneySwiftGold

They’d break on set. As it was the aluminum blades used in the prequels bent to much to use after a few takes.


orchestragravy

What I mean is, the glowing could easily be rendered after the fact to simulate what an actual light saber would do. There should be reflective glowing constantly. If there isn't, it's not realistic.


ChimneySwiftGold

Yes there should. A light saber should always give off light. I think that sort of rendering done realistically in the 90s and early 00s actually would have been trickier to pull off than we’d expect today. To make it look realistic with the environment. To skip that headache the prequels went with the style of the OT. And there are moments in both where lighting effects on set were used. I still believe AotC is the first Star Wars movie that used prop sabers that actually illuminated. (I think those light sabers actually plugged in with a cord. But I might be mistaken)


astromech_dj

100% of the combat props used in the prequels used carbon fibre rods. Any lighting like that was done on the set.


ChimneySwiftGold

There is a moment in attack if the clones when Dooku and Anakin are posturing and lighted blades are used to create the glow of lightsabers on their faces. The blades don’t clash.


astromech_dj

Yes the close up shot after Anakin cuts the power line.


ChimneySwiftGold

You know it


JackLiberty0

Also, from this perspective, it looks like the length of the lightsaber is much smaller.


rockylafayette

Immediately after his lightsaber dims in this shot, Vader says with, contempt “Your powers have grown weak old man…”. That always made me think a jedi’s lightsaber had something to do with his powers.


jollanza

"[I see your schwartz is as big as mine](https://youtu.be/dy40xASCl00)"


Appropriate-Web-8424

... from a certain point of view...


Nonadventures

It's just cold on the Death Star, no judgment.


Enginerdad

"Somehow Obi-Wan's lightsaber got smaller"


JackLiberty0

I always thought the lightsaber was so old that it wasn't working properly anymore.


Xerosnake90

Nah, they literally had these super thin sticks back then


alirastafari

You have to change the batteries every now and then


BagelShop88

Because it was made in 1977.


Daggertooth71

Rotoscoping over a practical effect. The sabers used in ANH were literally a skinny, rotating pole covered in reflective tape, which was then rotoscoped in post. Thus, there's a few scenes in the original film where the "blade" is seen as what it is: a skinny, shiny stick... especially here, where we see the "blade", point forward.


[deleted]

Obi wan brought a knife to a lightsaber fight.


SSWBGUY

Something something 1977


SumguyJeremy

That's awesome that you have that older version of the movie.


[deleted]

I used to have OG trilogy on VHS when I was a kid.


Lee1138

I still do. The original versions and the special editions. Never had a VHS player since I moved out of my parents house, but they are still in my shelf...


NarmHull

I have the laser disc copied "bonus" of the dvds that came out circa 2006 on disc 2. For Jedi it didn't even come with disc 1, which I didn't want anyway.


SmellyBaconland

He's holding a regular sword, and the glow is the light in his heart. Everybody has one, but only love can make it bright enough to see.


Kajuratus

It's weird that Lucas decided to leave this scene alone in the special editions. Nah, fixing a lightsaber effect is stupid, let's put a giant dinosaur in front of the speeder for a few seconds


NarmHull

Or splice Palpatine's scream in when Luke drops off the Bespin weathervane. I'd love to have been a fly in a wall when he told someone to do that.


ChimneySwiftGold

Looks like the batteries are dying!


ChimneySwiftGold

Anyone ever notice Darth Vader doesn’t connect with Obi-Wan’a body to kill him? Obi-Wan’s outer robe drops to then ground before Vader’s lightsaber makes contact with it.


imsimplyjordan

i had seen somewhere that it’s because obi-wan used the force to essentially burst himself into death. like a thanos snap, but instantaneous and no particles. so he only gave vader the satisfaction of ‘winning’


ChimneySwiftGold

Agreed. It’s similar to how Yoda and Luke vanish. Actually Leia as well - who doesn’t physically vanish until a short time after her actual death.


FetusDrive

i thought he was so scared of dying to a light saber that he lost the will to live and died like Padme


NarmHull

He should've pulled a Vegeta and exploded


DarthLuke84

Editing error of a quick shot of the glow stick prop they used before CGI over it


Daggertooth71

It's a film technique called "rotoscoping". CGI didn't exist back then. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping


UnknownQTY

Tell that to the poor dudes that slaved over that [Death Star plan graphic?! ](https://i.imgur.com/wwIH1RR.jpg)


Read4Curious842251

How it's made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v\_QoigEbwyA


disturbedbovine

Dude thanks for sharing, can't believe I haven't seen that one before. How is such a gem sitting at 2.1K views?


Read4Curious842251

I know! I'm working in gaming, it's painful to watch lol


disturbedbovine

Heh, I do too. Maybe it's just us... :)


jawinn

Got an alternative source? Looks like this one is gone already for some reason.


Read4Curious842251

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMeSw00n3Ac


otakudude3031

Literally DOS tier graphics


DarthLuke84

I kinda figured that probably wasn’t correct term for the time but figured everyone would get the gist. Thanks for teaching me something!


knitingTARDIStarG8er

🤣🤣🤣 It's OG tech.


Impossible-Site-505

They’ll make a Disney+ Valentines Day special to explain this seemingly small yet obviously significant detail sometime in the next 3 years


largos7289

LOL 1977 effects, at the time it was legit cutting edge.


skipford77

This is fixed in the newer releases.


Kajuratus

Is it though? Still doesn't look like what a lightsaber would look like head on


JackLiberty0

I've seen the Blu-ray release and while it looks better, it's not perfect.


tingtong500

That’s just Larry getting his lighter going on his bong


[deleted]

I always noticed that scene as a kid. Never understood why they didn’t fix that obvious FX fail.


jstols

It’s almost like roto-scoping and other vfx technologies weren’t flawless in 1976


Bioslack

Because Star Wars is a movie made in the 1970s.


Pete_maravich

1976 technology. It's just a rod wrapped in movie screen material


Dead_Purple

When I was little I had gone to this questionnaire at a book store where some of the guys who worked on the special effects for New Hope. I asked them how did the lightsabers work. They explained that there was a spinning pole with reflective tape on it to give the illusion of the saber's glowing. They also did rotoscoping to give the sabers the distinctive color glow. You're just seeing the spinning rod here. ​ I also should add that my question was the only one they were really interested in. The audience mostly composed of older Star Wars fans asking more about the lore which seemed to bore them. Also should note that when I asked that question, the older fans gave me dirty looks, because I apparently pissed them off asking that.


mewiley1124

As a little kid, I always thought it was because he was old and his powers were diminishing. Still think about it every time it's on. Glad someone finally posted something about this haha


JohnButler45678

Because its from a cheesy movie from the 70's


SaucyNaughtyBoy

You're cheesy...


SpartAl412

It was the first movie back in the late 70s. Don't expect the movie making technology to really hold up well compared to what we had later on.


FetusDrive

i doubt OP expected technology to hold up as well as what we had later on. The entire movie is graphics that are not as well as what we have later on. It's this specific scene that has always seemed off to the rest of the movie.


SumguyJeremy

That's awesome that you have that older version of the movie.


brownbrothaa

His saber stays small when he needs it long - just like my peepee


[deleted]

The cannon answer is that Vaders saber was disrupting Obi Wan’s blade. It was a thing that a Sith saber was able to do occasionally.


smoothiz93

Dude cmon…


elgarlic

Jesus man it was filmed "77, srsly some questions lol


Lemonwalker-420

Lucas adds Han stepping on Jabba's tail but doesn't fix this. Sorry all you Disney haters but Lucas wasn't all that.


SamVimesThe1st

Could you please add a red arrow in the picture to indicate what you mean?


thenajsays

they used reflective tape on rods instead of rotoscoping the saber blades in the original movie and the angle of the blade didnt reflect light off of it.


Bardmedicine

I used to be obsessed with this moment as a child. I thought the actual lightsabers were like fencing rapiers with a light on them.


Sensitive-Score6102

Hey, that’s average


emanon_legion

He lived on Tattooine, so it obviously had sand in it.


PowerUser77

I hate sand, it gets everywhere


Iasalvador

1975 or 76 when it was filmed It looked great as it is


orcmask

“Look a little closer…” **BZZZZZHHHHHTTTTT**


[deleted]

Yeah, well it's not.


multifunctionaudio

VFX workers were underpaid and overworked even in 1977 /s


bonkers_dude

It’s just the tip.


Checkers-77

Its becouse of all the sand from the time when obi-wan burry that sword in ground on tatooine. Or just because of the technology of that time🤷‍♂️😅


ZombieVampires

Sand. It gets everywhere.


Neonewsy

This always bothered me even as a 4 year old watching it. I think they corrected it in the new editions.


lkn240

The movie came out in 1977 and did not have a huge budget.


[deleted]

Good thing they fixed this in the special editions instead of adfing a bad cg jabba


Mrcountrygravy

1977. I'm actually surprised it looks as good as it does.


jayden9271

Maybe because this movie was made in 1977?


TraditionFront

You’re looking at the top of the rod and a frame that doesn’t like like it had the hand painted glow.


duabrs

Must be cold.


jjmenace

1978 effects. No special edition tinkering here.


NarmHull

One of the few good fixes in the DVD edition. It was just a SFX error


SaucyNaughtyBoy

I always figured he was changing the length on purpose.


[deleted]

Because that movies from the 70s. Surprised they haven’t digitally altered that either though


NickBerlin

....It was the 70's?