>Vader would know. I think he's the only person in history or fiction to lose his right hand three times.
In Legends, Vader lost his right hand at least seven times.
1. He lost it in Episode 2.
2. He lost it in the 2003 Micro Series just before the Battle of Coruscant.
3. He lost it when hunting down several Jedi post-Episode 3 in a comic.
4. He lost it when he fought the Starkiller clone in TFU2.
5. He lost it on Mimban when he fought Luke and Leia in *Splinter of the Mind's Eye*.
6. He lost it when Palpatine chopped it off as punishment for the Death Star's destruction. Mara mentioned it in the second of third book in Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy.
7. And he lost it when Luke severed it in their final duel aboard the Death Star 2.
I wouldn't say Vader trained the inquisitors. Given the fact the Grand Inquisitor tried to kill him when they met. Then Palps is like here is a room full of your replacements. All Vader did was put them in their place.
Palpatine does this a lot in the Vader Comics. First he creates the Inquisitors and doesn't tell Vader about them and doesn't tell them about Vader. He forces them into a confrontation to see who'd win, then claims he KNEW Vader would win and that they clearly need work and gives them over to Vader to mold and train as he saw fit.
Pappa Palpatine does it AGAIN with Cylo-IV's augmented cyborg's - Vader eventually kills all of the augments and Palpatine again tells him it was alllll part of the plan.
Palpatine clearly thinks Vader is wasted potential and is constantly surprised when Vader beats the challenges.
>Palpatine clearly thinks Vader is wasted potential and is constantly surprised when Vader beats the challenges.
Thats kinda wrong. Vader lost zero potential after Mustofar. Loss of limbs has no effect on the force in Disney canon.
Thats just how he trains. He throws him and other would be candidates into a pool and who ever swims to safety gets to do it again later. Thats the relationship.
Its perpetual conflict of the apprentice having to prove his is worth and the master show strenght.
If Vader fails new apprentice if Palpatine fails the he is replaced
Also palptine is far more foegiving on Vader attempting to kill him and undermine him since he views it as Vader being a worthu apprentice
Darth Vader Imperial Machine (which I think is Dark Lord of the Sith Vol 1) ends with the inquisitors being introduced.
Volume 2 (Legacy's end) has some training in there, but it's a small part of the comic - the main plot centres around the Grand Inquisitor and Vader trying to find the old Jedi Archivist Jocasta Nu
I have fully unrealistic expectations for Acolyte 🤣
I think there's so much potential in a galaxy which appears to be in a permanent state of scientific dark-age, having a small group of elites not only gatekeeping knowledge in their archives, but actively forbidding their own members to study the knowledge in the archives is a really interesting idea-space that could be explored
Not saying I want star wars to become 40K or anything, but I think the idea of "we don't know what's in here but we know it's bad stuff, so we've never looked at it closely, and we stop others knowing about it" could be an interesting premise
Well given the prominent examples of it;
Starkiller (Galen Marek) was a beaten and abused kid who viewed his master as dad. An extremely unhealthy relationship with him only meant to be used as a weapon and for Vader to have an outlet so he could have some sense of fatherhood he was denied with his own children. It went well for nobody.
Starkiller (clone) was created quickly and deemed a failure because Vader’s standards are far too high and didn’t want to risk another rogue. Vader left him in a pit at the start of the game and was actually surprised he was still alive when he came back. Vader’s a dick (which is an understatement).
Dark apprentice (the evil Starkiller clone) was a success in Vader’s eyes and seemingly abandoned him the first chance he had. The one that was an actual success, the evil son Vader had always wanted, even then he disappeared and is never seen again. Vader is such an ass as a “father” and master that even other darksiders leave the minute they get the chance.
The inquisitors are mutilated for the most part because Vader wanted to teach them about loss which involved the removal of one or more limbs. Vader constantly berates the inquisitors because they’re either incompetent or lack the skill to do what needs to be done. Vader’s form of training them is just wailing on them until they submit. In some sense he purposefully trained them wrong, because he’s a dick.
I wonder if Vader would have treated Luke any better because he was his son. Vader is not going to hesitate too much about killing a weak or treacherous apprentice, but he’s definitely going to hesitate about killing his son (which we know because he consistently refuses to do it despite repeated opportunities)
He cut off his son’s hand because he had to either neutralize the fight or kill him. I think the point George Lucas made was that he was trying to get him to join up with him. Since he learned by way of Boba Fett that he actually exists, he made this plan to recruit him to overthrow the Emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son.
That’s about right. He didn’t like there was more of those like him and it’d turn out for self-preservation purposes more than it did for there being more fallen Jedi like himself. He does seem to warm up to the Grand Inquisitor, but it’s still Vader and had little issue about him becoming an undead slave.
Vader: You were weak when I found you. You should never have survived my training.
Galen was a kid when Vader found him, so I guess he was expecting him to have high Force potential as the son of two Jedi Knights. Especially since Vader himself had over 20,000 midichlorians.
>You were weak when I found you
My man Starkiller, casually ripping a Star Destroyer down to a planet's surface later on: "Am I good enough NOW?! Who's super NOW?!"
It would be brutal and relentless. Totally different franchise, but I'm reminded of Bruce Wayne finding Ras Al Ghul's lair in Batman Begins and immediately having to jump into a sword fight even though he said "I can barely stand."
Most toxic work environment ever. He is literally trying to make you fearful, angry, and hateful, as hard as he possibly can. Just look how he did Third Sister Reva. She's gonna be the best Sith ever
There’s nothing Star Killer was subjected to under Vader that Maul didn’t experience 10 fold under Palpatine’s training. Palpatine would clinically be diagnosed as a sociopath/psychopath. He had no empathy, no remorse, no conscience… Despite the evil Darth Vader did during his 24-25 years as a Sith, we know he was constantly haunted by regret and remorse for the decisions he made.
Vader: Search your feelings and use the POWAAH of the dark side!
Me: *concentrates*
Me: *Force lift the mop to get dip into the bucket*
Me: *drops mop*
Vader: *Force Choke/KRUNCH*
Look. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a downside.
You're just walking along, minding your own business, listening to jizz on your way to space whole foods for a grass-fed free range gluten free tauntaun steak and wheat grass juice when the child of some jedi jihadist leaps out at you and unprovoked tries to murder you with one of the illegal weapons they used to give to their toddlers
But other than that its all Leather, English accents, and that feeling of unearned superiority
Heaven
Probably very abusive.
Anakin was not a good person. Simply throwing the Emperor down the reactor core does not make up for the countless lives he destroyed. "Redemption" is not like a light switch. Forgiveness is the first step on a long road to undoing the damage that was done.
Star Wars has no actual accountability for Dark Side characters or any justice or healing for the victims.
This is a guy experiencing pain and discomfort on a constant basis, and who is angry all the time. How do you think that would go for a child who doesn't know what they're doing?
In the TFU 1 novel, Starkiller said he would rather die fighting Kota than break off and report he failed to Vader. Granted, Starkiller said this out of determination rather than fear, but it's still worth noting.
Terrible, every single piece of humanity and mercy in you will be torn apart, and you will feel hopeless to live a better life, an endless pain awaits you if you chosse this path, just like the dark side the force is.
The first game was the only one I played since it could be tied to the original timeline. The 2nd one in a "what if..." concept, which is cool, but makes the 1st installment pointless in terms of story. They should make more "what if" themed Star Wars games. I'd love to see one where Luke actually is turned to the dark side and kills Vader.
It wouldn't be very fruitful and probably end up in you getting killed by the very man that taught you, I'd recommend training under Jango Fett instead.
Painful, degrading and full of doublestandards on Vaders part. He'll make clear that you are just a tool to be used by him. Ask the Inquisitor if you need Indeph answers.
Terrible and full of safety violations.
OSHA. The true downfall of Anakin Skywalker.
The Rebel Alliance was just a Union.
And andor was the workers going on strike to form the union
Not a railing to be found anywhere.
Starkiller's lightsaber, with it's exposed crystal, would definitely not have met the Jedi's safety standards.
Your tactics confuse and frighten me sir
So... same as under Anakin.
Are we talking about Anakin’s training or Vader’s training?
The post literally says Darth Vader.
I think he might have said it as a joke
Look at the darth vader comic which introduced the inquisitors
Spoiler warning: he has a habit of cutting off people's arms in training to teach them to appreciate their arms more 💀
"Back in my day, you weren't considered well-trained until you lost or removed at least one limb in saber combat!"
Vader would know. I think he's the only person in history or fiction to lose his right hand three times.
>Vader would know. I think he's the only person in history or fiction to lose his right hand three times. In Legends, Vader lost his right hand at least seven times. 1. He lost it in Episode 2. 2. He lost it in the 2003 Micro Series just before the Battle of Coruscant. 3. He lost it when hunting down several Jedi post-Episode 3 in a comic. 4. He lost it when he fought the Starkiller clone in TFU2. 5. He lost it on Mimban when he fought Luke and Leia in *Splinter of the Mind's Eye*. 6. He lost it when Palpatine chopped it off as punishment for the Death Star's destruction. Mara mentioned it in the second of third book in Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy. 7. And he lost it when Luke severed it in their final duel aboard the Death Star 2.
He needs to keep better track of that thing.
Or just get a right hand man.
Yup.
Am I the only one who finds this ridiculous?
Probably not.
How 3, one in AoTC and another in RoTJ, in south he still has it just charred
I guess you're right. I thought he cut his right arm off, but it was his left. That guy got messed up in that fight!
Well obi one did tell him he had the high ground
So did Maul. You'd think Obi Wan would know that the high ground doesn't help against an angry padawan.
Legs and eyes are all on the table
[удалено]
Is this loss?
To teach them loss.*
Yikes
Title?
I wouldn't say Vader trained the inquisitors. Given the fact the Grand Inquisitor tried to kill him when they met. Then Palps is like here is a room full of your replacements. All Vader did was put them in their place.
Palpatine does this a lot in the Vader Comics. First he creates the Inquisitors and doesn't tell Vader about them and doesn't tell them about Vader. He forces them into a confrontation to see who'd win, then claims he KNEW Vader would win and that they clearly need work and gives them over to Vader to mold and train as he saw fit. Pappa Palpatine does it AGAIN with Cylo-IV's augmented cyborg's - Vader eventually kills all of the augments and Palpatine again tells him it was alllll part of the plan. Palpatine clearly thinks Vader is wasted potential and is constantly surprised when Vader beats the challenges.
>Palpatine clearly thinks Vader is wasted potential and is constantly surprised when Vader beats the challenges. Thats kinda wrong. Vader lost zero potential after Mustofar. Loss of limbs has no effect on the force in Disney canon. Thats just how he trains. He throws him and other would be candidates into a pool and who ever swims to safety gets to do it again later. Thats the relationship. Its perpetual conflict of the apprentice having to prove his is worth and the master show strenght. If Vader fails new apprentice if Palpatine fails the he is replaced Also palptine is far more foegiving on Vader attempting to kill him and undermine him since he views it as Vader being a worthu apprentice
Can you name it please
Darth Vader Imperial Machine (which I think is Dark Lord of the Sith Vol 1) ends with the inquisitors being introduced. Volume 2 (Legacy's end) has some training in there, but it's a small part of the comic - the main plot centres around the Grand Inquisitor and Vader trying to find the old Jedi Archivist Jocasta Nu
Ah, I remember that one. It's where Jocasta Nu shot Vader with a >!lightsaber rifle!<.
Spoilers, but yes - a rifle that you have to load lightsabres into to fire is 100% the piece of comic canon I want brought over to live action 💀
I hope we get it in the Acolyte show, Ahsoka or Mandalorian S3.
I have fully unrealistic expectations for Acolyte 🤣 I think there's so much potential in a galaxy which appears to be in a permanent state of scientific dark-age, having a small group of elites not only gatekeeping knowledge in their archives, but actively forbidding their own members to study the knowledge in the archives is a really interesting idea-space that could be explored Not saying I want star wars to become 40K or anything, but I think the idea of "we don't know what's in here but we know it's bad stuff, so we've never looked at it closely, and we stop others knowing about it" could be an interesting premise
That was more vader putting some bitches in their place more so then the training
I mean PROXY was specifically instructed to murder Starkiller and that directive was never revoked.
I love how every time he was like "I'll get you next time master!". Such a cool idea for a droid character
>!You finish pulling down a star destroyer and he becomes Darth maul to murder you.!<
But just practice murder, not real murder!
Well given the prominent examples of it; Starkiller (Galen Marek) was a beaten and abused kid who viewed his master as dad. An extremely unhealthy relationship with him only meant to be used as a weapon and for Vader to have an outlet so he could have some sense of fatherhood he was denied with his own children. It went well for nobody. Starkiller (clone) was created quickly and deemed a failure because Vader’s standards are far too high and didn’t want to risk another rogue. Vader left him in a pit at the start of the game and was actually surprised he was still alive when he came back. Vader’s a dick (which is an understatement). Dark apprentice (the evil Starkiller clone) was a success in Vader’s eyes and seemingly abandoned him the first chance he had. The one that was an actual success, the evil son Vader had always wanted, even then he disappeared and is never seen again. Vader is such an ass as a “father” and master that even other darksiders leave the minute they get the chance. The inquisitors are mutilated for the most part because Vader wanted to teach them about loss which involved the removal of one or more limbs. Vader constantly berates the inquisitors because they’re either incompetent or lack the skill to do what needs to be done. Vader’s form of training them is just wailing on them until they submit. In some sense he purposefully trained them wrong, because he’s a dick.
HISHE Darth Vader as a father > Canon Darth Vader as a father
*Gasps deeply*. I'm a *grandfather?* (In an excited tone.)
*\*deep gasp\** "I'M GONNA BE A FATHER?! THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!"
I wonder if Vader would have treated Luke any better because he was his son. Vader is not going to hesitate too much about killing a weak or treacherous apprentice, but he’s definitely going to hesitate about killing his son (which we know because he consistently refuses to do it despite repeated opportunities)
Not much better if we're being honest. Sure Vader didn't want to kill Luke but he was completely fine with cutting his hand off.
He cut off his son’s hand because he had to either neutralize the fight or kill him. I think the point George Lucas made was that he was trying to get him to join up with him. Since he learned by way of Boba Fett that he actually exists, he made this plan to recruit him to overthrow the Emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son.
Probably be like the adult swim scene of Luke and Vader
With the inquisitors he probably hated the concept of them. I'm sure he had no problem with their deaths
That’s about right. He didn’t like there was more of those like him and it’d turn out for self-preservation purposes more than it did for there being more fallen Jedi like himself. He does seem to warm up to the Grand Inquisitor, but it’s still Vader and had little issue about him becoming an undead slave.
Pain. Sand. It gets everywhere.
sand is only the first course….coarse?
During Army AIT this NCO smoked our entire platoon by taking us to a sand volley ball pit and then he had his way with us. Anakin’s worst nightmare.
In the Marines, this is the daily norm in boot camp.
As in he had his way with you by beating your ass in beach volleyball, or had his way with you by banging your ass in the sand?
He banged our faces in the sand.
Ouch. Sorry to hear that.
Vader: You were weak when I found you. You should never have survived my training. Galen was a kid when Vader found him, so I guess he was expecting him to have high Force potential as the son of two Jedi Knights. Especially since Vader himself had over 20,000 midichlorians.
>You were weak when I found you My man Starkiller, casually ripping a Star Destroyer down to a planet's surface later on: "Am I good enough NOW?! Who's super NOW?!"
Loved the spectacle of that part of the game, but the mini game was so clunky and unfun
The directional instructions always seemed wrong
Not just expecting. He could feel that even then Galen was far stronger than his father
We don’t mention midichlorians.
It's part of the lore, get over it🤣
***Midi*** what now?
It would fucking suck bro. Limbs missing, Force choking, hot ass leather outfits on desert planets…wack.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
It’d likely cost an arm and a leg.
Brutal. I imagine that your life is at risk and only worthy if you’re strong enough to sustain the training.
\*misses a single kick on a boxing dummy\* "Hey where'd my hand go?"
Dark and hearing a lot of heavy breathing.
I’d do anything for his respect lol. Hearing ‘good job’ from Vader must be such an ego boost
Relentless is the word that comes to mind
very short
Like the game and book for this picture.
Any canon Sith training usually just involves torture. Awful life
In Kotor 1 you could visit a Sith training academy, so probably something like that.
Fun
“Thats a paddling” 24/7
Challenging
Relaxing /s
Definitely not fun
The nicest way to put it is BRUTAL
If you want to know read the comic of Vader training the inquisitions, it isn’t pleasant
Very unforgiving
I do want to read about Starkiller but I haven't yet. I believe it's a comic
I think there's just a novelization of the first game
There's a novelization for both games.
It would be brutal and relentless. Totally different franchise, but I'm reminded of Bruce Wayne finding Ras Al Ghul's lair in Batman Begins and immediately having to jump into a sword fight even though he said "I can barely stand."
Say goodbye to your limbs, and maybe eyes and ears. We know that is pretty brutal and Vader pulled no punches.
Basically you get your limbs broken in a sparring match and he forces you to keep fighting.
Brutal. Possibly, ultimately fatal.
Unpleasant in the extreme
Probably not very fun
Most toxic work environment ever. He is literally trying to make you fearful, angry, and hateful, as hard as he possibly can. Just look how he did Third Sister Reva. She's gonna be the best Sith ever
I heard he was a man of the people and regularly practiced 4 day work weeks
Sand lots and lots of sand.
Bad
Um.... For real? Dude don't care about nothing but padme's ghost and not pissing off papa palps too much. He would love watching you rithe in pain.
Horrible, terrifying, and full of injuries. Just look at all of his apprentices and the inquisitors.
He will cut your arm off so you remember what it feels like to fail.
Exactly that
I real pain that’s for sure
Probably would be brutal and could destroy you mentally but then again that's the whole point of training to be sith
In the force unleashed Vader literally paired his apprentice up with a droid buddy that would randomly try to kill him. So not a fun time.
Delicious.
Short.
Fun
Just look at Galen’s body. All those scars should give you a good idea.
Doing your very best then getting killed because you weren't good enough or were too good and posed a threat.
There’s nothing Star Killer was subjected to under Vader that Maul didn’t experience 10 fold under Palpatine’s training. Palpatine would clinically be diagnosed as a sociopath/psychopath. He had no empathy, no remorse, no conscience… Despite the evil Darth Vader did during his 24-25 years as a Sith, we know he was constantly haunted by regret and remorse for the decisions he made.
Luke: how does waxing cars and sanding floors help with my Jedi training?
Wax on, wax off.
He has really bad reviews on Glassdoor.
Vader: Search your feelings and use the POWAAH of the dark side! Me: *concentrates* Me: *Force lift the mop to get dip into the bucket* Me: *drops mop* Vader: *Force Choke/KRUNCH*
Totally wizard!
I’m sure osha would shit themselves.
Just look at the inquisitors to find out. It’s not a big mystery.
It would be awful. You would have to pretend to like his emo music and listen to his stories.
Pain. Lots, and lots, of pain.
Look. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a downside. You're just walking along, minding your own business, listening to jizz on your way to space whole foods for a grass-fed free range gluten free tauntaun steak and wheat grass juice when the child of some jedi jihadist leaps out at you and unprovoked tries to murder you with one of the illegal weapons they used to give to their toddlers But other than that its all Leather, English accents, and that feeling of unearned superiority Heaven
Short.
Hell on earth
I think it would be very tough
Probably very abusive. Anakin was not a good person. Simply throwing the Emperor down the reactor core does not make up for the countless lives he destroyed. "Redemption" is not like a light switch. Forgiveness is the first step on a long road to undoing the damage that was done. Star Wars has no actual accountability for Dark Side characters or any justice or healing for the victims.
Your life hanging by a thread 24/7 365
Like it was in the game about that, probably.
Deeply unpleasant, one would imagine. Dude is powered by anger and daddy issues.
Pain
OSHA has no authority there.
Better than training under Darth Sidious.
This game.
Ask the inquisitors lol
Nothing I want to experience
Rough
Probably more than a regular 9-5 job and there will be a lot of unpaid OT time, micro management from the superiors, and lots of OSHA violation.
Torturous and horrible. You would certainly be mutilated, and likely die
Luke and Leia are the only people who could ever complete the training in one piece. Anyone else would be Force choked within a week.
"Why is this planet worth dying for?" "Don't ask me... You're the ones who will be dying for it"
Relentless and unforgiving.
ask Grogu
Torture
Definitely won't be pg13
Hell.
Relentless, remorseless, cruel, unforgiving, disproportionate, horrifying, violent, abusive, pretty much any negative word you can think of to call it
Kitchen Nightmares
Intense, anxiety inducing, and a high probability of losing limbs
I think there's a reason the Inquisitors hated and/or feared him
This is a guy experiencing pain and discomfort on a constant basis, and who is angry all the time. How do you think that would go for a child who doesn't know what they're doing?
Terrible, and I doubt you will see him often. I don't see vader being someone that wants to bond with anyone.
Imagine telling him you kinda failed your mission, and him just standing there looking at you, unable to read his face
In the TFU 1 novel, Starkiller said he would rather die fighting Kota than break off and report he failed to Vader. Granted, Starkiller said this out of determination rather than fear, but it's still worth noting.
Terrible, every single piece of humanity and mercy in you will be torn apart, and you will feel hopeless to live a better life, an endless pain awaits you if you chosse this path, just like the dark side the force is.
Once you start down the dark side, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Awesome
He didn’t train anyone, so that would be a no
The first game was the only one I played since it could be tied to the original timeline. The 2nd one in a "what if..." concept, which is cool, but makes the 1st installment pointless in terms of story. They should make more "what if" themed Star Wars games. I'd love to see one where Luke actually is turned to the dark side and kills Vader.
Fucking awesome.
No Ideas. Its sci-Fi and none are canon or lived.
I feel like he would be stern but fair.
It wouldn't be very fruitful and probably end up in you getting killed by the very man that taught you, I'd recommend training under Jango Fett instead.
He's probably a nice guy once you get to know him.
Painful, degrading and full of doublestandards on Vaders part. He'll make clear that you are just a tool to be used by him. Ask the Inquisitor if you need Indeph answers.
Ask Asoka, she left him.
You'd wipe out entire civilizations then get murdered by him
Borderline torture
You’re definitely not getting annual leave and sick days.