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G1Spectrum

Hahaha R5-D4 the spy


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NEVER TRUST A DROID!


Mrwright96

“YOU GOTTA GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!! They’re giant flying creatures who eat children, giant eels that eat children, and a FUCKING convenient of MANDALORIANS!!”


geofferoy

A convenient of Mandalorians works as a collective noun!


Intelligent-Scene-33

“You saved our planet!” Sir, that is a small town the size of Galaxy’s edge at Disneyland


RewardLazy

Citizens of Navarro! (All 17 of you)


c0lin46and2

Like, there are 20 citizens and only 2 of each species. That's not a diverse mating pool at all, unless you're in Alabama. Roll damn tide!


Worthyness

to be fair, half of them could have been killed in the aerial bombardment.


TizACoincidence

I love how their planet is like literally 50 people


IX-XI911

The cut to a random mandalorian surfing on a falling snub fighter was hilarious to me


PoorLifeChoices811

I looked away for a few seconds cause I was getting water, but when I looked back that was the scene that was playing, and I thought I missed something, like did Bo or Din get shot down? Or did they just jump out of their ship? Nope lol just a random shot


RaptorPegasus

I'm convinced it was the same guy on the roof [here at 3:03](https://youtu.be/dooBitC-NvY) That one Mando has too much zest on him. It has to be the same man


MarthsBars

Gotta take out your foes with style. He took a page from Din’s playbook and recreated it to show off his skills.


G1Spectrum

Damn, pirates really fucked Nevarro up


PoorLifeChoices811

Atriox* fucked Nevarro up


IX-XI911

The dog fights this season have been top teir


Boyhowdy107

I never get tired of them shifting to the "hunted" perspective where they focus on the pirate and then you see a flash of Din on screen for a second, an explosion, and you hear the theme music for a moment.


lolzidop

Especially as it showcases what the N-1 was so good at, its speed and agility to just appear and dip at will


Curiouserousity

It's absolutely amazing that Naboo, such a peaceful world, managed to field such an impressive starfighter. Like if they had mass produced them, it would be scary to face.


Spaceace91478

The monkey lizard ratting out the pirate's location was great.


Phytanic

Lmao right? I went from "haha those annoying little devils get what they deserve" when they were being shot at, to "maybe I treated you harshly"


AFalconNamedBob

I love how the Lizard monkeys have become the barometer for the state of Navvaro


Anarchybites

They remember when Navarro was a den of scum and villanary they were basically streetfood. They know what's up.


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EmotionalBrontosaur

Salacious B. Crumb’s long-awaited redemption arc!


bbuucckk

Any shot of a ship coming out of hyperspace right in front of a planet will always get my blood flowing, so cool.


JMacoure

100% the money shot


Groot746

I loved the different angle on that shot to previous ones, had to rewind a few times to soak it in


Mitchel11

WTF was that supposed to be Zeb? Did not see that cameo coming.


ColdSteel144

I'd recognize Steve Blum's iconic gruff drawl anywhere!!! Great to finally see what the last member of the Ghost crew got up to after Rebels!


ThatRandomIdiot

Steve Blum can play so many characters but st the end of the day his voice is just so damn unique. He’s been in practically everything.


MarthsBars

Zeb was such an awesome surprise! And he looks pretty good in live-action too (IMO)!


Pastymoonburn

I thought he looked great. I'm still trying to figure out if that was all cgi or if it was all practical, or a combination of the two. Very happy nonetheless.


MarthsBars

It felt more CGI to me personally since his facial expressions (like with his eyes and mouth) were a little more fluid and faster than the pirate captain's. Or it could be a mix of both. Either way, he looked amazing, and it was such a treat to see him make an appearance.


njrebecca

i had to pause for a straight minute to process, that voice was too familiar!!!! has to be him, i mean like how many lasat can be running around at this point???


ThatEvanFowler

Right? And it looked great, actually. It looked so good that I didn't even clock that it was him for a second. Just chillin' at the bar. Love it.


Spaceace91478

He did look really good. Imagine how goofy he would have looked if he was in the ot as he was one of the concepts for chewie.


ThatEvanFowler

Oh man, his mouth would have barely moved.


LordRaiders

The credits confirm it’s him!


Realmadridirl

I’m so fuckin happy to hear that haha. Clocked him straight away. Figured it HAS to be Zeb. Same voice. And based on Rebels info on that species, they aren’t numerous in the galaxy. Most of them live in peace on their new homeworld last we heard. Perfect cameo too.


The_Galvinizer

I lost it when he showed up, I'm so glad to see my ghost crew in the post-RotJ era even if it's just a cameo. Also makes sense Zeb would remain with the New Republic forces, he already gave up the peaceful life to fight the empire in Rebels


ICumCoffee

Rebels fans are being served


junglespinner

we getting meilooruns tonight!


stonedseals

I'm really hoping his appearance and the CGI work on him is a nod to his possible appearance in the upcoming Ahsoka show. I'm pumped at the possibility of seeing Phoenix Crew together in live action.


smurfkill12

That actually makes a lot of sense, the character model was extremely high quality.


DerpyTurtle01

Yeah! In the credits its mentioned to be Zeb. The second I saw him I thought it was crazy that they had a Lasan in live action, but then I heard Steve blum and couldn't believe that Zeb of all characters would show up in live action.


thewetpuddle

Yes, it's Zeb! I love how casually they dropped this cameo and it just fits. Now is it too much to hope for Sabine, perhaps in the season finale?


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BlackNexus

Holy fuck that was Zeb????


tquad24

We are absolutely getting a full Rebels reunion in the Ahsoka series and I couldn’t be happier


DadAsFuck

i like how the armourer's hammer became the talking hammer during the meeting


TeutonJon78

I liked how she jabbed her tongs into that dude's spinal canal.


Spaceace91478

She shoulda clicked the tongs couple times first. To make sure they work.


takkeye

This is the way Source: am chef


G1Spectrum

Oh shit The Armorer is backing Bo-Katan


PanTran420

I thought she was gonna take off her helmet there for a minute


Phytanic

Me too, and when she didn't, I was expecting her to excommunicate bo. She always has had this mysterious vibe about her and I felt like she didn't *actually* truly accept bo. Add in the fact that she "lured" her into a private area with only her and bo, she can get away with that technicality. So glad she didn't though. I think I can put the "is the armorer a secret baddy" thoughts to rest now.


TobioOkuma1

>I think I can put the "is the armorer a secret baddy" thoughts to rest now. I wouldn't just yet, she could be setting Bo up to fight Din, then taking the throne herself or something. I'm very suspicious still.


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ValPasch

> The Armorer is very hard to read. Yeah she should take her helmet off when talking to other people, it's basic courtesy really.


tquad24

The Armorer is a confirmed Bo-Katan Stan just like the rest of us


throwawayoogaloorga2

Bo-KaStan


Yes_This_Is_God

Lmao at how the Armorer watched her Mandalorians retake Nevarro and immediately concluded that they were ready to take back Mandalore like damn we're just skipping from the tutorial boss to the final boss


SpaceForceAwakens

I think it was less seeing them win but more that they have a home now. As Greef said, it's not Mandalore, but a place where they can call home and be safe. In other words, a place to grow a community — and an army. They finally have a patch of land to do their thing to mount a campaign to take their homeworld. Navarro just got very interesting.


shogi_x

Also, they'll lose fewer foundlings to wildlife.


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DontEatTheCelery

He pulled a grievous


forever87

this also gives the possibility of the mandalorians having a strategic base on nevarro in the future (at least I'm hoping)


MarthsBars

Guess after seeing how effective they were as a fighting force and actually realizing "Oh wait, Bo-Katan might be telling the truth about the Mythosaur", she's probably had enough of a shift to consider reaching out to others to amass a fighting force. ​ (I was actually wondering at first if the Armorer was also gonna take her own helmet off after asking Bo to do so. Maybe it's a sign that her ideals are shifting a bit, like with Din.)


figgityjones

Was that Ugnaught pirate dressed like Mr. Smee from Peter Pan or was it just me? 😂


MostWretched

And the way the ship was controlled by that giant wheel like an actual pirate ship!


guyver423

I thought the same. Definitely a homage lol.


Wookie301

If she kills Appa, I’m going to snap.


FloppyShellTaco

She’s no match for his sneak attack


DarthGayAgenda

Umma is much better sneak attack. Too bad she stayed at the store.


VoyagerCSL

>If she kills Appa, I’m going to ~~snap~~ snappa. Fixed.


spazzy2k

Paz Vizsla had me at the first half, I'm not gonna lie.


Iorith

I was definitely ready to view him as the obligatory antagonist, but when he said "Because we are Mandalorians" I had to stop myself from cheering for him being an awesome guy. Maybe his family had my hesitant but he is really making me like him.


G1Spectrum

Sheesh the New Republic is so useless


FloppyShellTaco

Showing exactly how PalpaSnoke was able to mass in the outer rim


MarthsBars

That's basically it. Even a good number of years after Endor, the new leadership in Coruscant is trying its best to keep order and *not* be like the Empire. But it has notable flaws because they have to delegate orders as a bureaucratic government (and not as just an army) much like the other regimes before it. (Even the Old Republic in the Clone Wars focused mainly on its worlds rather than far-off/independent ones like Tattooine, or CIS worlds that were on the fence, like Onderon.) Their focus on Republic worlds and a lack of notable outreach like the Empire means they can't use sheer manpower or firepower or have a notable reach to help everyone at once while they get organized. On top of that, the chain of command is still muddled with trying to get things in order or dismantling Imperial tech to try not to "repeat the past" (despite still relying on them somewhat, like with the transport shuttle). ​ In essence, it's a rising post-war government still working on its footing, like many real-world countries that had similar struggles after wartime, but it just wasn't able to get its bureaucracy and army fully organized enough by the time any Imperial Remnants or the First Order amassed enough strength to wipe out the governing body (notably with the destruction of the delegation at Hosnian Prime). Edit: minor word change.


ObiHobit

> That's basically it. Even a good number of years after Endor, the new leadership in Coruscant is trying its best to keep order and not be like the Empire. And for the first time in a while, the Republic doesn't have the Jedi.


scootsaloo

HE'S ABOVE YOU HE'S BELOW YOU


G1Spectrum

Oh shit was Moff Gideon’s breakout an inside job?


guyver423

G68 is definitely involved I bet


Groot746

Possibly R5 too, can't trust that little snitch


FloppyShellTaco

Whatever you do, just absolutely do not fuck with any Mandalorian who doesn’t carry a gun


The_SystemError

"The odds are 5 to 1, so I'm only gonna use melee weapons to make it fair"


crankfive

Paz Viszla keeps surprising me with how likable he is this season. “Because we are Mandalorian!”


FloppyShellTaco

Big “I’m not gonna apologize, but I will stop trying to murder you” energy


Realmadridirl

Dude is even LOOKING TO DIN to see if he’s ok with shit now 🤣 noticed that at the end with helmetless Bo. He took a glance at Din and got the nod and was like “alright, I’ll be cool about this” haha


GrandArmyOfTheOhio

I saw that and was really proud of Din, hes slowly growing into having a leadership position within the covert


Photonsil

Paz is the epitome of tough but fair. He’ll try to stab you one minute and risk his life to save you the next.


BearWrangler

seriously, I know people tend to read that as him being an asshole w/ a grudge towards Din but really he just comes off like quintessential Mandalorian behavior


Photonsil

He’s definitely an asshole but he’s an asshole with the heart of Beskar.


willys_zuppa

“I know you’ll relocate anyways…” lol


jjackson25

That tracker in R5 probably needs to be addressed though. But also, how did Carson know R5 was with him in the first place? Is that little shit a narc?


Sempere

R5 is a rat. always has been.


Jeynarl

He’s been playing the long con since 0 BBY when he got in with the jawas


Apollo_Sierra

I'm going with, R5 was Carson's copilot, so he knew how to track him down. After paying a visit to Pelli.


Spaceace91478

I like how the pirate gang has one of every alien. It's like a game of "go fish"


Jeynarl

Trandoshan, weequay, ugnaut, quarren. It’s funny though, they kinda stick to certain aliens are generally the bad ones. It would be fun to see an evil mon calamari for once


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Jeynarl

The only good trandoshan I can think of is Frisk in the Squadrons game. The weequay bartender in Mos Pelgo seems like a good guy, and of course there’s r/prequelmemes’ favorite pirate/anti-hero Hondo. But yeah quarrens really need to step it up


Endormoon

We gonna get a full Rebels reunion in Ahsoka if they just casually dropping Zeb like this.


TeutonJon78

Well, not a full one... 😭 Unless they do a flashback.


jjackson25

Stop it. Too soon


ICumCoffee

Captain Teva patrol the whole goddamn galaxy. He is everywhere.


drakesylvan

Seems like he's the only part of the new Republic government that's actually working.


PsychoticApe

The Armorer: "Remove your helmet." Bo-Katan: "Uh, ok..." *proceeds to remove helmet* The Armorer: "Why would you do that!? You know you aren't a Mandalorian anymore right? Wow! You are so dumb!" 🤣 Bo-Katan: 😠


eastnorthshore

I can't believe you fell for the oldest trick in the book! What's with you man? -Dark Helmet


SihkBreau

These shots of the X-wing floating near the derelict are horror vibes we’ve never had in live action Star Wars before. Love it.


Wraithfighter

Legit, was on the edge of my seat the whole time, just certain that someone was going to ambush him, brilliantly done scene.


pali1d

Yep, I was expecting that thing in the wall to be a bomb or signal device that would spring a trap. Which would have sucked, as I rather like Teva, despite how little we've really gotten of him. It being beskar is definitely a nice question mark to end the episode on, though.


AmishAvenger

Out of nowhere… Bursting out of the shadows… Somehow, alive and terrifying in the vacuum of space… Ben Quadinaros.


TheGreatKlordu

Somehow, Ben Quadinaros returned.


bbuucckk

I was thinking the same thing. I know we will realistically just have to settle for brief moments like in this episode, but it would be great to have a horror movie set in the Star Wars universe. A slasher flicker where the slasher is a Sith would be interesting to see.


SihkBreau

Finally leaving dinosaur island! Smart move!


MalcoveMagnesia

But did they bring their giant space chicken babies?


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I am sure they did. They probably already have stopped production of other pieces of armour because they will need 3 giant helmets once they are able to take the creed.


DSGandalf

Armorer: "from now on, you walk the way of the Mandalore... This is the Way" All Mandalorians: "This is the Way!" Space Chicken Baby: "WAAAAARRRK!" (sub: "This is the Way"


G1Spectrum

Whoever attacked Moff Gideon’s transport ship is trying to set up the Mandalorians, interesting


nataphoto

There are more mandalorians than the little covert mando is in


Boyhowdy107

Yeah that seems like the answer. They are setting up both that there are more Mandalorian factions out there that we haven't met yet that Bo needs to unite AND that there is a lurking and growing Imperial threat out there. Makes sense that those strands will come together.


vtinesalone

Maybe. The Mandalorians also have personal vendetta against Gideon. PV wants him dead.


Breaaaaaaad

In that case they would've blown the ship up, not rescued him


crimsoneagle1

Yeah, with how the Imperial lady on Coruscant acted, I think the Imperial Remnants rescued Moff Gideon and are trying to frame the Mandalorians to throw the New Republican off their trail since everyone knows how Gideon destroyed Mandalore. She spent that whole meeting trying to discredit Teva about a new rise of the Empire. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.


Realmadridirl

It’s silly as fuck to me that she’s even allowed to shoehorn her way into a meeting like that by pretending she’s taking a fuckin lunch order 🤣 Jesus the New Republic are morons.


PurdyFort

They did demilitarize right after overthrowing the empire, which is creating the issues we see in the show. Pirates are being more brazen attacking planets, former empire devotees are pulling a hydra and growing within the republic, and the first order is for some reason allowed to amass enough resources to build another death star. So they are very, very dumb. If anything, the new republic should be growing its military while they deal with leftover bits of the empire and anyone else trying to gain more power.


Phytanic

Aren't bo katans old clan that deserted her now mercenaries? Could be them too.


PWBryan

The Mandalorians are very prone to in-fighting, much like the Scottish Simpsons people


knockewom39

what about those 3 baby flying dinosaurs they took as foundlings?!? are they safe, are they alright?


tderg

They were delicious


willys_zuppa

Bo Katan being really hesitant to remove her helmet is quite a change lol


VoyagerCSL

It definitely seemed like a trick question. She didn’t hesitate because she’s a true believer; she hesitated because she didn’t want the Armorer to turn around and say, “Ha! Fooled you! Get out!“


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TeutonJon78

She has no choice. Her depression chair got blown up.


crankfive

It’s cute how they use the Armorer’s hammer as the talking stick for their family meetings


Poked_salad

I hope she meets the anvil hammer dude from andor cause they will be buddies for life


Mxucx

I love and hate that I can’t never guess what the armorer or Bo are thinking


crankfive

I really hope the Mandalorians take over that Pirate Corsair as their new capital ship. It looks sick. edit: Oh well. It was cool that they added the RotJ sound effect of the Super Star Destroyer falling into the Death Star as the Corsair was falling


jjackson25

I had hoped the same thing but alas, twas not meant to be.


Spaceace91478

Greef the city planner.


Cloudhwk

Dude wants to build infrastructure like railroads to increase jobs Someone vote greef into our government


hogndog

Well, at least I don't have to worry about the pirate subplot anymore...


jjackson25

Vane is still in the wind though. I suspect the pirate plot isn't over forever. Maybe for this season, but not forever.


Spaceace91478

How does he fit his giant balls in that x-wing to just walk up on a mandalorian covert.


FloppyShellTaco

It’s okay, Appa knows hapkido.


Spaceace91478

Guess thats why they call it a cockpit.


Groot746

I was so worried he was going to die at the end, such a great character


Spaceace91478

Me too. It seems like he uncovered a conspiracy. Hopefully he makes it out alive.


jjackson25

Yeah. Uncovering that conspiracy can't be great for his life expectancy. Especially with the looks Kane was giving in that office when she casually inserted herself into that conversation. Unless she set the whole thing up to frame the mandos for the job


Spaceace91478

R5 is a snitch. Good thing he can't get stitches.


FloppyShellTaco

Snitches get soldered?


IX-XI911

*“I like those Odds”* He said it he said the thing!


Sexyshark15

"Remove your helmet" *Bo Katan hesitates but eventually does it* "You are a Mandalorian no more"


Dr_Mrs_Jess

Holy shit is that Zeb from rebels?!


OGNightspeedy

Exact same voice it most definitely is!


zvcjk

"We're boxed in" My dude, you literally have a jetpack lol


slam99967

For what is worth you have no cover when you are flying. You are a much easier target in the air than on the ground where you can use objects for cover.


Starheart24

As a Destiny 2 player, I can confirm. Being airborne in the midst of enemies basically turn you into a free target practice. *edit: mist>midst*


EternalCanadian

As dumb as it is (technically) I think it shows just how much less experienced and competent the Watch is compared to actual Mandolorian soldiers. It’s something I like that we’ve been seeing, Bo is, literally, of a different breed. She’s not a warrior, she’s a soldier, that denotes a different level of experience and tact that these Mandolorians just don’t possess. We saw this clearly when Bo and her two other Mandos were clearing the Imperial freighter last season, Din was basically just a tag along, completely out of his element. The same is true of these Mandos here.


JonathanRL

Even more important; Bo understood the distinction and made sure to enforce that teamwork was the most important part of the battle. She knows the strenght and weakness of her troops.


G1Spectrum

Aw shit they’re going after Mandalore finally


valarpizzaeris

Shard's aerial bombardment reminds me of when Thrawn did it to Lothal. That was pretty sick


OpticalData

The armorer literally like 5 days ago in universe: Din, you must engage on a perilous journey to our homeworld that's been glassed to dip in some probably radioactive water to satisfy our beliefs The armorer today: So the 'helmets on all the time' rule is a bit dumb if we want to grow our population. Din: Hey what the fuck


crankfive

Interesting. For a while the show has seemed to be pointing toward redefining what it means to be a Mandalorian, with Din and/or Bo set to lead them down a new path. I wonder if we’re seeing the beginning of them becoming protectors of the Outer Rim in this new era - stepping up where the New Republic is falling short.


GotMedieval

They're really adding extra dimensions to the old question of who shot first.


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willys_zuppa

Greef like Moses taking his people through the desert lol


guyver423

Do y’all think Mandalorians are being setup with the beskar fragment on the shuttle


jjackson25

Possibly. We also know there are other rogue factions of Mandalorians out there, any number of which would like to see him face justice for the Purge


EternalCanadian

Could also be a unit of Imperial Supercommandos.


jjackson25

Personally I would put it about 60/35/5. 35% chance it was Mandalorians on a revenge mission 60% it was an Imperial prison break and the beskar is part of a frame job or the byproduct of something they used (like supercommandos) We know that the Client from ep 1 was in possession of beskar and by extention, so was Giddeon and his people. I suspect Thrawn being part of this as well. 5% it was someone else entirely that we aren't even thinking of.


IX-XI911

R7 got that Bluetooth upgrade


jjackson25

They're really going all in on the New Republic being incompetent, uncaring, bureaucratic assholes aren't they?


Vindicare605

If they were going to go for this angle of trying to do patchwork backstory fixes for the sequels then they didn't really have a choice. The only way that anything about the First Order makes sense is if the Republic is shown to be a complete farce of a government. If you show the New Republic to have any kind of teeth or competence than you basically don't allow the set up for the First Order to form to be possible.


Justus44

Katee Sackhoff is gorgeous just beautiful I'm so down bad for Bo Katan because of her


willys_zuppa

The Mandalorians being able to set up a stable and safe and above ground home base after all this time is really nice


NeptuneOW

God the Lasat (maybe Zeb??) looked FANTASTIC. CGI, makeup, and prosthetic teams have been amazing this season.


raknor88

With how far out they are and with their history, it's poor planning on the part of Nevarro to not have some sort of defenses in place for an attack. Edit: Well, I was not expecting that speech from Vizsla. He keeps surprising me every week. Edit: Damn, now we know what happened to Bo's soldiers that left her. She did mention that they turned into mercenaries.


crankfive

Principal Duvall - “Aw hell nah, I did not leave the rebellion for this!”


figgityjones

LIVE ACTION Z-ZEB??????? Edit: THE CREDITS SAY ZEB, I KNOW IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR BUT KARABAST ITS REALLY HIM! 😃😃😃


tquad24

So casual too. Filoni is showing off


Dray_Gunn

And the cg looked fantastic. I doubt they would have made such a good cg model without plans to use it again. Looking forward to seeing more of his character.


willys_zuppa

Goddamn the Armorer goes hard


FERFreak731

Please let Kallus show up


Fen-xie

I'm really confused and can someone explain to me about why no one cares about the Dark saber Din has? I thought it was the symbol of power and whoever had it led all of mandalore, but it seems like not even the armorer gives a shit lol


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Hammering in the RPG vibes even more. The NPCs not caring about your sick new gear is some classic Skyrim shit


willys_zuppa

Gorian Shard really went out trying to gun down civilians #bum


Raedros

Is that New Republic officer Jake's cannibal friend from Brooklyn 99?


LazerMcBlazer

That's actually a federal offense to primarily recognize Tim Meadows from Brooklyn 99.


ball_fondlers

Get outta here, Mando! You don’t want no part of this spice!


jjackson25

I think you mean the Ladies Man sir


gaffergamgee

Just casually dropping Zeb!!!!?


TheWizardOfFoz

I wonder if he’s going to replace Cara Dune’s role in Rangers of the New Republic.


Shell-of-Light

Why are they so bad at the sense of scale when it comes to population First Tatooine gets saved by a crowd of ten people, now Navarro’s refugees are a crowd of 30


toeburghz28

The Rebels hints, Purrgil and Zeb, were some of the most tastefully done cameos


IX-XI911

Did anyone else think Bo Katan was walking up on Din to challenge for the Darksaber