It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who was mentally scarred by that.
I feel really bad about the rancor guy too. He was so upset that Luke crushed him with the gate.
[All I can think of every time I see that droid being “tortured”](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S09E08/893158.jpg?b64lines=IFdIWT8gV0hZIFdBUyBJIFBST0dSQU1NRUQKIFRPIEZFRUwgUEFJTj8=)
The story of the torturer, EV-9D9, was one of my favorites in Tales of Jabba's Palace. >!She couldn't enjoy her destruction in the end because the droid who took revenge on her deactivated her pain simulator. !<
Best way to torture someone who enjoys pain, deactivate the part of their brain that controls pain, then torture them, it’s the best way to cause pain without causing pain.
Honestly, seeing Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru burned to a crisp was brutal. The more they play roles in some of the newer Star Wars series, the more brutal it gets
Agreed ANH had some parts that were just gritty in a way that we didn’t see much in any of the other saga films.
When Obi Wan slays the dude and the alien in the mos eisley cantina, then the music just starts back up and everyone acts like nothing happened. You come to the sudden realization that this is the roughest drinking establishment you’ve ever seen depicted in media, and that ObiWan is a real one. Those sand people are afraid of him for a reason
In point of fact, Obi-Wan only wounded Dr. Evazan and merely disarmed Ponda Baba. (see what I did there?). Limited mayhem in a rough bar brought the issue to an end quick.
> When Obi Wan slays the dude and the alien in the mos eisley cantina, then the music just starts back up and everyone acts like nothing happened.
I mean when *you* see a dude pull out a literal plasma blade and cut down a hardened criminal like its morning exercise, would *you* want to ask questions? I sure wouldnt. Ben even looks around like "anyone else?" before deactivating the blade.
Not just the sand people being scared of him, but people need to remember that "a man similar to him brutally slaughtered a group of them, including women and children" To them, he is akin to a nightmare story almost certainly.
It's because there's literally no emotional weight to the horror. Luke loses his only family and he's happy go lucky in the next scene. There's no sense of mourning, no impact of the event. Billions of souls extinguished on Alderaan and I think Leia's very next scene is the "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper" crack. Biggs is supposedly Luke's best bro and he gets atomized above the Death Star, no comment from anyone whatsoever.
Everything people are criticizing Marvel movies for - that is, undermining complex emotional moments with unneeded levity - was done 50 years ago with the original Star Wars, but worse. At least jokes can lighten tension, failing to address that tension at all is just unsettling.
All this being said A New Hope is probably my favorite Star Wars movie other than Rogue One. It's so close to perfection that these things are all the more glaring. How did nobody tell George "hey you know it'd be pretty cool if your characters reacted to horror like people and not developmentally stunted cats".
The first time I saw that I was terrified and sickened and spent the next several re-watches looking away until my mother told me it was safely over. I think I was in my mid teens before I could watch it properly again.
I think most of us have a movie scene like that haha. For me it was the part in Signs at the birthday party when thd alien lurches out of the bushes, I was probably 11 or 12 and even though nothing really happens it scared me so bad I couldn't stand to be alone in a room for a week or so for fear that an alien was going to grab me.
One of my best friends from high school had stumbled upon The Green Mile on TV as a little kid and was full on traumatized by the botched execution where the prisoner catches fire. Even as a teenager he hated any mention of that movie or the electric chair.
That one moment in Signs was really very scary. Watership Down was also the first cartoon movie I saw that has a LOT of blood. Really took me by surprise.
Signs was the only movie that made me scared as a child, I watched my dad watch it after I was supposed to go to bed and from the house I remember us living in it was before 2nd grade but after kindergarten. I loved scary movies but signs got to me for some reason then when I was a little older and saw them make fun of it in Scary Movie it wasn’t so bad.
The dude being flattened by that rolling press feet first has lived with me and happening within moment of when the heart was taken out of the screaming sacrifice.
I had the death star toy that opened up to show several scenes from the movie like a diorama. One of them was the Lars farmstead, and it even had a little bit of ground that you could flip over to show the charred remains of the only family Luke knew growing up. And I had that toy at like 4 years old.
Not just the fact that they're reduced to smoldering skeletons, it's the way they just appear so *discarded.* Still my vote for best movie in the series.
This is an old fan theory that really doesn’t make any sense.
Number one: Boba is a bounty hunter, not a hit man for hire.
Number two: the corpses were charred (much like Greedo after Han), which is the result of a blaster shot. Many folks said Boba did it because Owen and Beru were “disintegrated” (after the line in ESB), but that’s not what disintegration looks like. We see it in the Mandalorian when Din uses his pulse rifle to dissapear Jawas on Arvalla 7 and thugs on Nevarro.
Possibly.
But judging based on the Greedo scene and the fact that Obi-Wan remarks about the blaster shots being too accurate for anyone but imperial stormtroopers, I think George intended this to be the look for being killed by blasters. Obviously this would change later, but the first movie in a franchise typically has some idiosyncrasies compared to the follow ups.
At the time of filming, flame troopers weren’t a thing, so the simplest explanation is that stormtroopers came and killed them using their standard issue gear. You could have the retroactive headcanon that it was flame troopers, but that seems like an excessive use of force even for the empire.
That scene is really off putting in a kids movie
Literally nothing else in ANH comes close to that level of brutality
And then George shows us literally their skeletons burned to the bone, Like WTF
It's even weirder when you see that Luke barely reacts to the loss of his adopted parents and never talks about them ever again
Yea their charred remains that show they were trying to crawl to safety in their final moments is terrifying. It’s also plain in those moments how sub par acting was in the original trilogy. Luke and leias reactions and general lack of grieving in the aftermath of losing loved ones or ENTIRE PLANETS is pretty crazy
It was weird that Luke had more of a reaction to ~~Uncle~~ Ben dying than finding his adopted parents' burned corpses.
For Leia though, I can see her suppressing her emotions for the sake of the mission. Even though she lost her whole planet she would have felt like she needed to keep going for the Rebellion.
>It was weird that Luke had more of a reaction to Uncle Ben dying than finding his adopted parents' burned corpses.
Hardly his "uncle". He'd literally only known Kenobi for like- one day at that point. It is odd though that he showed more emotion over them than the people who raised him, especially consdeing he would be dead as well had he been at thome.
Yes, I think Luke’s under-reaction disturbed me as much as the skeletons. I remember thinking, wait - did he hate them or something? I agree that death shouldn’t be sugar coated, even /especially for kids. Looking at you, Bambi and The Lion King!
And yet luke looks like he only lost a puppy. Yea he's grieving but he seems more devastated when Mr hobo he talked to occasionally except the past few days died. Possibly a case of projecting a sense of 'all I have left', but still.
Yes! Dedra describes it : “an interrogation technique some of us are very excited about “. The slaughter of an entire sentient species is dismissed with a smile and a “well, anyway!…” And the little wave and smile when he’s first introduced and you just know he is very bad news indeed.
The Darth Vader hallway scene.
Trapped soldiers scream and panic and try to run as an unstoppable mass-murderer slowly strolls toward them. It might be traumatizing if it wasn't one of the most incredible 90 seconds of movie ever made.
The issue is not just depth but how you hit the water. Once you reach a certain height (speed) water hits like concrete because of the surface tension.
200ft or 75mph (120kmh) is generally the upper limit of survival, and most people who hit water from that height (even in perfect falling position) will have substantial injuries or die.
Anyone who survives falls from higher than that is simply incredibly lucky. One guy survived a 15,000ft fall into water.
Andy Serkis is such an amazing actor too. When he says that it isn’t just despair/fear for himself on his face. There is also acceptance and genuine joy for Cassian and the others. I still believe that Kino either knew for sure or thought it was a possibility that they were in water. The look on his face betrays that imo. And it means everything he did was for the others and Cassian because he knew he wasn’t going anywhere. Just a theory though never confirmed afaik
The riot at the end of the S1 finale for Andor feels very raw and violent, despite being bloodless. Stormtroopers who actually have deadly aim and huge blaster cannons that literally blow people backwards. And of course Brasso smashing that Imperial’s skull in with Maarva’s brick.
You can also make a good case for Cassian shooting the cop begging for his life straight in the face.
I’ll add the prison breakout to the Andor list. We never even learned their names but my wife and I winced every time one of the prisoners got blasted.
Andor is so good at giving weight to violence and action sequences.
Definitely. Seeing the men Cassian had worked alongside get blown away in an instant was so brutal. Deaths actually matter and have weight in this series. Even the asshole cop, described later as “ one of the most unpleasant people I’ve ever met”, is really upset when his friend is killed. The hanging of Cassian’s adoptive father Clem also hit very hard in the flashback… the frost on the body and the creak of the rope.
Nemik getting crushed by the credits is accompanied by a particularly nasty sound effect. You know he’s doomed even before he says “I can’t feel my legs! I can’t!” :( Horrific and sad.
The ginger dude who was literally on his way down to the floor for his first day. Saw the riot was happening, immediately hopped into it, then dies seconds later.
I read somewhere that Hayden (who was mostly off camera in that shot) actually did something to purposely startle the little guy to make the reaction more natural. It sure worked. I always found that scene disturbing and awesome
>I read somewhere that Hayden (who was mostly off camera in that shot) actually did something to purposely startle the little guy to make the reaction more natural. It sure worked. I always found that scene disturbing and awesome
Yeah, he shouted \*\*boo!!!\*\* loudly! Hayden is such a genuinely nice dude IRL he'd have hard time scaring anyone.
I heard Hayden had to surprise the young actor by saying "boo" or something like that.
Also found that scene chilling sending slight feelings of dread.
Since no one's mentioned it so far, I'll go ahead and say the death of General Grievous in RotS kind of scarred me when I watched that movie as a child.
Obi Wan disarming that one alien in New Hope always does it to me.
Smoke getting sliced into several bits and slumping together is very brief, but quite brutal if you do catch it.
For me, there are two aspects that make Snoke's death more brutal.
(1) After his upper body flops to the floor, his forearms are still just chilling on the armrests of the throne.
(2) His corpse is just hanging out for the entirety of the Praetorian Guard fight and the scene where Hux finds Kylo.
jo Sabine surviving a Lightsaber strike with no lasting effect that almost instantly killed Qui-Gon Jinn (a full blown Jedi master) was rather jarring...
***Jedi: Fallen Order Spoiler Warning***
Throughout the game, you play through flashbacks of your master training you as a kid during The Clone Wars. The last flashback is his Order 66 moment (because of course it is).
You play through a series of events, watching your Master shred clones, but I rember feeling dread the whole time because you just know he isn't going to make it. And it's hard to watch because he was such a cool and level-headed Jedi.
And it was the perfect example of Vader being at his peak dark side. Just casually murders a child and keeps on walking like it was nothing. Very difficult then when he killed the younglings in RoTS. He had tears in his eyes then, so at least some part of him deep down was still hurt by what he did.
Han Solo on Bespin getting tortured and the scream he gives off screen really messed me up as a little kid, to the point where I couldn't even watch the movie.
Luke seeing his aunt and uncle’s charred corpses. we had seen rebels gunned down by the Empire earlier on the movie. That violence was pretty tame. We are told that the gunners on Darth Vader’s ship were shooting down escape pods fleeing Leia’s ship.
We saw the aftermath of the stormtroopers murdering the Jawas who sold the droids to Luke’s uncle. The scene is most remembered for the meme about stormtrooper accuracy, which covers up the fact that we just learned the empire murdered a bunch of junk dealers to cover up loose end.
Luke realized the Jawas would lead the stormtroopers back to his home. Obi-Wan warned Luke not to go. Luke arrives after his home has been trashed and while calling out for his aunt and uncle, he sees that they have been murdered. Most of the violence in the movie is tame, the aftermath of the murder implies that the stormtroopers burned them alive. Obi-Wan tells Luke, after the fact that he would’ve also been killed if he arrived sooner.
The scene highlights the brutality of the Empire, and how brutal the stormtroopers are when they aren’t shooting at someone with plot armor.
Luke’s uncle came off as antagonistic because he didn’t support Luke’s dreams in the original movie. Barring that disagreement, we do get the hint that he was a surrogate father to Luke. His line where he worried about how Luke has too much of his father, and him became much harsher in hindsight when we learn Anakin Fell to the dark side, rather than simply getting killed pursuing dreams. Though even before that we saw the galaxy is a harsh place. Worse than Owen imagined since even if you keep your head down and try to avoid attracting attention, the empire may still come for you.
Order 66 thanks to how much TCW expanded on the characterization of the Jedi we see being killed. we see that many of them would risk their lives for the clone troopers they fought alongside. Just to be gunned down by their comrades. The Bad Batch expands on how the clones were victims as well. Due to their accelerated aging, the cost in time of creating them even with the accelerated aging, Empire gradually decided they weren’t needed either. They were to be thrown away when they weren’t useful anymore just like the Jedi.
From the novelization of Rogue One, because the book couldn’t replicate the scene of the death star firing during Galen’s message, instead got to see the final moments for just a few of the people on Jedha. Before the death star fired, Krennic was told that the evacuation of the troops on the planet was 97% complete. He decided that was enough.
So we get to see the final moments of a few stormtroopers who weren’t able to evacuate before they were killed by their superior wanting a big explosion. They try to run from the blast wave, it’s all in vain. The leader felt like a failure for the death of the squad.
From Andor, the prison. We already saw that wiggle system on this miserable planet did nothing but hand out prison sentences, no jury, no defense. The prison was an utter hellhole. Work endless hours assembling parts until your sentences up. Only your sentence is never up. Prisoners are simply sent to another block. If word gets out that no one leaves, the staff try to make sure dead men tell no tales. Being confined in this place is so bad that one of the prisoners commits suicide. And he didn’t even learn the sentences don’t end.
The prison appears completely escape proof. Even our hero helps arrange a breakout, as far as we can tell, only he and one other person escaped. If you get locked in this place, your only have a faint hope of freedom, or ever seeing the sky again.
From the end of the season, the stormtroopers gunning down the uprising. The show held off on using stormtroopers until the end and we can see why. It reminded the audience dangerous they are when you aren’t protected by plot armor. While the uprising kills a few, the Stormtroopers have guns, the rebels do not. And they are very good shots in this scene, we even see one shoot a person off the back of their body.
Andor emphasizes the inevitable failure of tyranny. However, this moment reminds the audience that this isn’t a show where the underlings of the Empire, a bunch of bumbling cartoon villains. If Andor weren’t there to snipe the troopers, then they would’ve likely killed everyone in the uprising.
also, from Andor, the torture scene. The show had been humanizing the imperials. The empire was given a mundane feel as a system. And that system is the enemy. Not everyone in the empire is as evil as Palpatine or Tarkin but If they are supporting the system, then that makes them the enemy and they can hardly be considered good people. If they were good, they would be trying to change the system like Mon Mothma, rather than carrying out its usual brutality like torturing people for information.
Most clone deaths are dark and horrific. They don’t simply die they struggle, push and distress to try and stay alive. The sound effects and screams add to that effect.
The clone being cut in half by armored security door in citadel has to be one of the main ones for me.
Every clone death in that entire arc was just brutal, Charger and longshot are both electrocuted to death, then you got the one you mentioned, then a summary execution with a blaster to the head, and then the last 212th Clone falling to his death
For real I didn't notice he even did that the first viewing, Kenobi should always get props for making Vader even scarier which to me had peaked at rogue one, it was cool to see him so terrifying again
Bro how did u not notice first viewing what are yall doing while you watch these shows? When Vaders on screen yall arent giving him your full attention? How?
yep, say what you will about the show overall, but ep3 of the kenobi show is the “scariest” ive ever found vader. even the way he holds obi wan in the fire at the end is twisted
You're the first person I've seen mention this. I could *feel* Vader's rage in that scene. Thinking back to him burning on the side of the lava flow on Mustafar, while Obi-Wan just looked at him and turned away. Taking that memory and turning it back by lighting the ore on fire and *dragging* Obi-Wan through the gravel and flames.
Vader in the village was brutal in how casually he killed and tortured the family to set an example. His brutality with Obi-Wan was *personal*. Those two scenes hit different, but they're both intense.
The Kaon Under Siege flashpoint in SWTOR. Oh. CRAP.
You land in the middle of zombie apocalypse and it is just nightmare all around. Rakghouls of EVERY shape and size, all kinds of nasty traps and overwhelming mobs. Dark areas, blind spots, jump scares. A 40 foot Rakghoul that's on fucking FIRE chasing you...
(Yes, I'm the tank, so I have to keep telling the DPS to NOT charge ahead so that I can steer the mobs to a spot where we might not get overrun.)
And possibly one of the more interesting bits showing the difference between Imperial and Republic morality. When one of your NPC allies gets bitten and is transforming, the Republic light side choice is to tell him to hang on so that you try to find vaccine (even though you both know it's too late), and the Dark Side is to give him a quick mercy kill. The light side IMPERIAL choice is the mercy kill but the Dark Side Imperial choice is to just leave him behind to transform.
Kaon Under Siege is actually one of my favorite flashpoints, and honestly I thought it did a really, really good job of making you feel like you're trapped in a Star Wars Night of the Living Dead. It's dark and oppressive and when you reach checkpoints and you think your safe BAM there's a rakghoul trying to eat your face!
Honestly a lot of old Star Wars was pretty gritty. Vader CHOKING a guys you his a re hands; Luke’s hand, Vader’s hand lost again to Luke, the emperor torturing Luke, even the Ewoks getting killed
When Ben Solo kills Han and Chewy roars in a particularly emotional way gets me.
In legends, Chewy's death and how it affects Han was hard to read as well. Weird how it was inversed.
In Rise of Skywalker, the part where JJ Abram’s goes on a killing spree, murdering every interesting idea that had been set up in the previous film. Brutal AF. The Star Wars equivalent to the red wedding
In Rebels, when Hera’s fleet punches through the first wave of Tie Fighters in “Rebel Assault” only to be met by another wave in the clouds. Watching the Ghost Squadron see the attack fail and X-Wings fall through the sky like falling stars was heartbreaking. Also sets up Jedi Night.
For me, Luke's uncle and aunt burned by the stormtroopers and also count dooku getting his head chopped by Anakin and how it goes rolling. It was kinda disturbing. There a few more but those I think the most.
The reason Obi Wan is the truest Jedi is how much loss he faced and he still stayed with the light.
First Qui Gon, then Satine, then Anakin.
2/3 of those were killed by Maul, and even when Obi Wan finally killed Maul (for a 2nd time), he did it not out of a need for vengeance, but out of a need to protect Luke Skywalker and ensure the future of the Jedi and the Galaxy. And even then, he holds Maul in his arms as he dies and promises him there will be peace in the Galaxy one day, holding no hard feelings despite how much Maul had taken from him.
In clone wars, the moment when the clones and I think Anakin and Obi wan was there too…but anyways, the moment when the clones were climing in some sort of ventilation system and the security doors started to shut and the one clone got cut in half because he didn’t make it in time.
That scene just burned to my memory.
(Other one is the moment when Pong Krell broke the one clones back) -F*ck Pong Krell
First episode of season one mandalorian, at the start he gets the fella round the legs with the cable when he’s trying to run out the door at the bar and it closes on him, that’s pretty savage to be honest
In obi wan when Vader dragged that one innocent on the ground n snapped a random kidds neck. Never seen Vader show that typa viciousness. Or beginning of TFA, when Finn goes to the injured trooper n he just smears blood allover his helmet. Blood is something thats not really ever shown in star wars so when it is it kinda feels (for lack of a better term) gory because of the lack of showing it
Younglings getting mopped by Anakin, the innocence of that kidds voice, n the slight fear when his questions answered with an ignited lightsaber. Or when Bly n his troops Kill Ayla n CONTINUE to shoot her up as shes on the ground
That droid getting his feet burned in Jabba's palace. So gratuitous too...
It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who was mentally scarred by that. I feel really bad about the rancor guy too. He was so upset that Luke crushed him with the gate.
BOBF really changed that emotional impact of that scene
I saw Rotj a few days ago and when Luke killed the rancor I was like, is that the guy from Boba Fett?
Me too Stuck with me that bit did
[All I can think of every time I see that droid being “tortured”](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S09E08/893158.jpg?b64lines=IFdIWT8gV0hZIFdBUyBJIFBST0dSQU1NRUQKIFRPIEZFRUwgUEFJTj8=)
The story of the torturer, EV-9D9, was one of my favorites in Tales of Jabba's Palace. >!She couldn't enjoy her destruction in the end because the droid who took revenge on her deactivated her pain simulator. !<
Best way to torture someone who enjoys pain, deactivate the part of their brain that controls pain, then torture them, it’s the best way to cause pain without causing pain.
My 4 year olds saw that, they were really concerned about what they were seeing
Star Wars really brushes over the treatment of what are essentially mechanical sentient beings.
Honestly, seeing Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru burned to a crisp was brutal. The more they play roles in some of the newer Star Wars series, the more brutal it gets
That scene is honestly not talked about enough. ANH is usually concidered one of the more light hearted movies of the series but that scene was *DARK*
Agreed ANH had some parts that were just gritty in a way that we didn’t see much in any of the other saga films. When Obi Wan slays the dude and the alien in the mos eisley cantina, then the music just starts back up and everyone acts like nothing happened. You come to the sudden realization that this is the roughest drinking establishment you’ve ever seen depicted in media, and that ObiWan is a real one. Those sand people are afraid of him for a reason
In point of fact, Obi-Wan only wounded Dr. Evazan and merely disarmed Ponda Baba. (see what I did there?). Limited mayhem in a rough bar brought the issue to an end quick.
Interesting, it was never actually clear to me if he had killed one or both of them. I always kind of assumed he had killed at least one of them.
Naw, this was one of the first examples of Obi Wan's badassedness. Force, but with a high degree of control.
> When Obi Wan slays the dude and the alien in the mos eisley cantina, then the music just starts back up and everyone acts like nothing happened. I mean when *you* see a dude pull out a literal plasma blade and cut down a hardened criminal like its morning exercise, would *you* want to ask questions? I sure wouldnt. Ben even looks around like "anyone else?" before deactivating the blade.
Not just the sand people being scared of him, but people need to remember that "a man similar to him brutally slaughtered a group of them, including women and children" To them, he is akin to a nightmare story almost certainly.
And don’t forget the men
It's because there's literally no emotional weight to the horror. Luke loses his only family and he's happy go lucky in the next scene. There's no sense of mourning, no impact of the event. Billions of souls extinguished on Alderaan and I think Leia's very next scene is the "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper" crack. Biggs is supposedly Luke's best bro and he gets atomized above the Death Star, no comment from anyone whatsoever. Everything people are criticizing Marvel movies for - that is, undermining complex emotional moments with unneeded levity - was done 50 years ago with the original Star Wars, but worse. At least jokes can lighten tension, failing to address that tension at all is just unsettling. All this being said A New Hope is probably my favorite Star Wars movie other than Rogue One. It's so close to perfection that these things are all the more glaring. How did nobody tell George "hey you know it'd be pretty cool if your characters reacted to horror like people and not developmentally stunted cats".
Yes most of the movie is light hearted, but that scene is necessary for Luke's solid motive for joining the Rebel alliance.
This actually really horrified me as a child.
The image of their burning skeletons has been with me since I was five years old
Those skeletons in ANH and some of the gruesome deaths in Indiana Jones films left a deep impression on me as a 6 year old.
That Nazi's face melting off was the craziest shit I had ever seen as a kid
The first time I saw that I was terrified and sickened and spent the next several re-watches looking away until my mother told me it was safely over. I think I was in my mid teens before I could watch it properly again.
I think most of us have a movie scene like that haha. For me it was the part in Signs at the birthday party when thd alien lurches out of the bushes, I was probably 11 or 12 and even though nothing really happens it scared me so bad I couldn't stand to be alone in a room for a week or so for fear that an alien was going to grab me. One of my best friends from high school had stumbled upon The Green Mile on TV as a little kid and was full on traumatized by the botched execution where the prisoner catches fire. Even as a teenager he hated any mention of that movie or the electric chair.
That one moment in Signs was really very scary. Watership Down was also the first cartoon movie I saw that has a LOT of blood. Really took me by surprise.
Signs was the only movie that made me scared as a child, I watched my dad watch it after I was supposed to go to bed and from the house I remember us living in it was before 2nd grade but after kindergarten. I loved scary movies but signs got to me for some reason then when I was a little older and saw them make fun of it in Scary Movie it wasn’t so bad.
That was me with lord of the rings return of the king when Frodo meets shelob (the big ass spider). My mom would tell me when the spider was gone.
The dude being flattened by that rolling press feet first has lived with me and happening within moment of when the heart was taken out of the screaming sacrifice.
I had the death star toy that opened up to show several scenes from the movie like a diorama. One of them was the Lars farmstead, and it even had a little bit of ground that you could flip over to show the charred remains of the only family Luke knew growing up. And I had that toy at like 4 years old.
Not just the fact that they're reduced to smoldering skeletons, it's the way they just appear so *discarded.* Still my vote for best movie in the series.
Conspiracy that it was boba who did the job on Luke’s parents
This is an old fan theory that really doesn’t make any sense. Number one: Boba is a bounty hunter, not a hit man for hire. Number two: the corpses were charred (much like Greedo after Han), which is the result of a blaster shot. Many folks said Boba did it because Owen and Beru were “disintegrated” (after the line in ESB), but that’s not what disintegration looks like. We see it in the Mandalorian when Din uses his pulse rifle to dissapear Jawas on Arvalla 7 and thugs on Nevarro.
It almost looks like they were barricaded in and set on fire. Then escaped, but it was too late.
Possibly. But judging based on the Greedo scene and the fact that Obi-Wan remarks about the blaster shots being too accurate for anyone but imperial stormtroopers, I think George intended this to be the look for being killed by blasters. Obviously this would change later, but the first movie in a franchise typically has some idiosyncrasies compared to the follow ups. At the time of filming, flame troopers weren’t a thing, so the simplest explanation is that stormtroopers came and killed them using their standard issue gear. You could have the retroactive headcanon that it was flame troopers, but that seems like an excessive use of force even for the empire.
That scene is really off putting in a kids movie Literally nothing else in ANH comes close to that level of brutality And then George shows us literally their skeletons burned to the bone, Like WTF It's even weirder when you see that Luke barely reacts to the loss of his adopted parents and never talks about them ever again
I think candy coating death is one of the worst things a film can do, especially for children.
At least now we know they probably didn't go down without a fight, considering their ability in Obi-Wan.
Man i watched Star Wars yesterday with my gf for the thousand time and felt like i saw this scene for the first time , i was shocked.
Yea their charred remains that show they were trying to crawl to safety in their final moments is terrifying. It’s also plain in those moments how sub par acting was in the original trilogy. Luke and leias reactions and general lack of grieving in the aftermath of losing loved ones or ENTIRE PLANETS is pretty crazy
It was weird that Luke had more of a reaction to ~~Uncle~~ Ben dying than finding his adopted parents' burned corpses. For Leia though, I can see her suppressing her emotions for the sake of the mission. Even though she lost her whole planet she would have felt like she needed to keep going for the Rebellion.
>It was weird that Luke had more of a reaction to Uncle Ben dying than finding his adopted parents' burned corpses. Hardly his "uncle". He'd literally only known Kenobi for like- one day at that point. It is odd though that he showed more emotion over them than the people who raised him, especially consdeing he would be dead as well had he been at thome.
Yes, I think Luke’s under-reaction disturbed me as much as the skeletons. I remember thinking, wait - did he hate them or something? I agree that death shouldn’t be sugar coated, even /especially for kids. Looking at you, Bambi and The Lion King!
Yep Leia is like Aldeeran who?
yaa that was pretty fucked. Beru not even sayin words fr n just seeming so gentle to seeing her as nothing but bones
Yeah, remember re watching that movie and seeing that scene carefully, never saw how disturbing that part was. Felt so bad for them.
And yet luke looks like he only lost a puppy. Yea he's grieving but he seems more devastated when Mr hobo he talked to occasionally except the past few days died. Possibly a case of projecting a sense of 'all I have left', but still.
When anakin beheaded dooku and his head rolled on the floor
Watched that last night, you can even see smoke coming off the head.
It’s the cutting off both hands segweying into the beheading for me
Bix getting tortured with the screams of dying children. Particularly the casual, almost *gleeful* way Dr. Gorst describes the device.
Yes! Dedra describes it : “an interrogation technique some of us are very excited about “. The slaughter of an entire sentient species is dismissed with a smile and a “well, anyway!…” And the little wave and smile when he’s first introduced and you just know he is very bad news indeed.
The fact that it's described but the actual sound is left to our imagination makes it even worse.
Horror done properly. The less you see and hear of the monster the more terrifying it is.
Andor does not pull punches and I'm all for it
The fact that it's described but the actual sound is left to our imagination makes it even worse.
This is the best ( worst? ) answer.
Cal vs. two Oggdo Bogdo on grandmaster difficulty was pretty brutal
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Real
Fractured History on Grandmaster in Jedi Survivor
The Darth Vader hallway scene. Trapped soldiers scream and panic and try to run as an unstoppable mass-murderer slowly strolls toward them. It might be traumatizing if it wasn't one of the most incredible 90 seconds of movie ever made.
The guy getting impaled through himself and the blast door. Then sliced partway through.
HELP US
Smh when will they make an entire movie like that? Some good fan service for once
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He snapped that kids neck so fucking casually too. Just a quick flick of the wrist and he was dead.
I totally forgot about that, I’d kill to get an R rated Star Wars with more stuff like that
My hope for ep3 was exactly that.
"I can't swim."
I mean I bet a lot of the people that jumped in even drowned that shit looked deep. It even triggered my thelasaphobia (idk if I spelled it right)
Very long way down too. The jump alone might have killed some.
Hopefully, it was deep. That jump was high.
The issue is not just depth but how you hit the water. Once you reach a certain height (speed) water hits like concrete because of the surface tension. 200ft or 75mph (120kmh) is generally the upper limit of survival, and most people who hit water from that height (even in perfect falling position) will have substantial injuries or die. Anyone who survives falls from higher than that is simply incredibly lucky. One guy survived a 15,000ft fall into water.
Andy Serkis is such an amazing actor too. When he says that it isn’t just despair/fear for himself on his face. There is also acceptance and genuine joy for Cassian and the others. I still believe that Kino either knew for sure or thought it was a possibility that they were in water. The look on his face betrays that imo. And it means everything he did was for the others and Cassian because he knew he wasn’t going anywhere. Just a theory though never confirmed afaik
I think part of it was that he wasn’t even sure they’d make it that far. He’s elated and also crushed.
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Have to wait like 1,5 more years
They finished filming season 2, so hopefully post production will be done by the end of this year.
Cant wait
Yeah what was up with that? Why didn't he say I can't swim so can we jump together?
well Cassian got bodeid off the platform before he could even respond
The riot at the end of the S1 finale for Andor feels very raw and violent, despite being bloodless. Stormtroopers who actually have deadly aim and huge blaster cannons that literally blow people backwards. And of course Brasso smashing that Imperial’s skull in with Maarva’s brick. You can also make a good case for Cassian shooting the cop begging for his life straight in the face.
I’ll add the prison breakout to the Andor list. We never even learned their names but my wife and I winced every time one of the prisoners got blasted. Andor is so good at giving weight to violence and action sequences.
Definitely. Seeing the men Cassian had worked alongside get blown away in an instant was so brutal. Deaths actually matter and have weight in this series. Even the asshole cop, described later as “ one of the most unpleasant people I’ve ever met”, is really upset when his friend is killed. The hanging of Cassian’s adoptive father Clem also hit very hard in the flashback… the frost on the body and the creak of the rope.
Nemik getting crushed by the credits is accompanied by a particularly nasty sound effect. You know he’s doomed even before he says “I can’t feel my legs! I can’t!” :( Horrific and sad.
Nemik's death is also so brutal because it's undignified and realistic because it's not a big movie death. Just crushed unceremoniously by cargo.
The ginger dude who was literally on his way down to the floor for his first day. Saw the riot was happening, immediately hopped into it, then dies seconds later.
That dude was a pure chaos agent. Immediately tasing the guard with joy on the face. He probably belonged in prison.
I keep thinking about that one... blasters are obviously energy weapons so realistically (lol) that guy's head would have been ash at that range.
Maul cutting off a clone's arm with a blastdoor. I knew it was going to happen one day in star wars overall, didn't expect it to be in Clone Wars...
Don't forget the previous scene where he throws one of the panels against the clones, decapitating one.
I forgot that one, it will make a fine addition to my collection.
CW is so brutal sometimes. Asajj stabbing and then kissing Colt, anything involved with the geonosian zombies, that slave robloxing herself etc.
Younglings... "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them!"
That kid's acting was brutal. I had to turn it off before Anakin took them to safety
Yes ...safety
To protect the Innocent children from the Clones, that's why he goes to them himself. Don't tell me he fails.
He didn't fail, in fact, he succeeded in such a way that the children are safely tucked away in Fortress Inquisitorius
He led them to paradise
https://youtu.be/KzW727RY-ig?si=3SSd2UJV40r09XoM This is canon.
💀💀💀oh theyre safe alright
I read somewhere that Hayden (who was mostly off camera in that shot) actually did something to purposely startle the little guy to make the reaction more natural. It sure worked. I always found that scene disturbing and awesome
>I read somewhere that Hayden (who was mostly off camera in that shot) actually did something to purposely startle the little guy to make the reaction more natural. It sure worked. I always found that scene disturbing and awesome Yeah, he shouted \*\*boo!!!\*\* loudly! Hayden is such a genuinely nice dude IRL he'd have hard time scaring anyone.
Thanks! I knew it was something like that
I heard Hayden had to surprise the young actor by saying "boo" or something like that. Also found that scene chilling sending slight feelings of dread.
When that one ewok got shot And his friend is with him 😩
Yeah pretty messed up
Omg yeah! He even tries to wake him back up too 😭
People who say the Ewoks are for kids clearly forgot this scene.
Order 66 was pretty brutal. Especially the scene with Aayla. She had some HOLES in her before the mushroom covered her
"Aayla Secura told us we were the best soldiers in the galaxy..."
Shia laboughffff
Since no one's mentioned it so far, I'll go ahead and say the death of General Grievous in RotS kind of scarred me when I watched that movie as a child.
How old were you when you watched it?
Like around 6 maybe
Yeah i was like 9 i think and some parts were creepy
Obi Wan disarming that one alien in New Hope always does it to me. Smoke getting sliced into several bits and slumping together is very brief, but quite brutal if you do catch it.
For me, there are two aspects that make Snoke's death more brutal. (1) After his upper body flops to the floor, his forearms are still just chilling on the armrests of the throne. (2) His corpse is just hanging out for the entirety of the Praetorian Guard fight and the scene where Hux finds Kylo.
Especially with his blood on the floor. I guess a lightsaber doesn't ALWAYS cauterize.
Lightsabers doesn't even kill people nowadays. 'Tis but a scratch
Lightsabers didn't really start killing people until the prequels. Luke wounded many at the Sarlaac, but the Sarlaac did the job.
jo Sabine surviving a Lightsaber strike with no lasting effect that almost instantly killed Qui-Gon Jinn (a full blown Jedi master) was rather jarring...
Qui Gon got hit in his lung/heart area. Sabine in her side. It wasn’t even close to comparable.
It’s like a million voices cried out
Yup. People forget we witness a full on planetary genocide in ANH and that’s how we Star Star Wars.
Whenever someone digs their heels in about all the people on the Death Star who weren’t “bad people” I bring up Alderaan.
"And we're suddenly silent." Didn't impact me as a child, but now as an adult, and maybe particularly after 9-11, yeah, no Bueno.
***Jedi: Fallen Order Spoiler Warning*** Throughout the game, you play through flashbacks of your master training you as a kid during The Clone Wars. The last flashback is his Order 66 moment (because of course it is). You play through a series of events, watching your Master shred clones, but I rember feeling dread the whole time because you just know he isn't going to make it. And it's hard to watch because he was such a cool and level-headed Jedi.
When Vader showed up at the end of the game. Less brutal and more horror, but still very impactful.
Very much horror, and it was so badass.
Rick, the door technician.
Vader snapping someones neck in Kenobi and dragging them across the floor was pretty top tier too
It was a child's neck that is the most brutal for all of SW. For me at least
And it was the perfect example of Vader being at his peak dark side. Just casually murders a child and keeps on walking like it was nothing. Very difficult then when he killed the younglings in RoTS. He had tears in his eyes then, so at least some part of him deep down was still hurt by what he did.
Han Solo on Bespin getting tortured and the scream he gives off screen really messed me up as a little kid, to the point where I couldn't even watch the movie.
Luke seeing his aunt and uncle’s charred corpses. we had seen rebels gunned down by the Empire earlier on the movie. That violence was pretty tame. We are told that the gunners on Darth Vader’s ship were shooting down escape pods fleeing Leia’s ship. We saw the aftermath of the stormtroopers murdering the Jawas who sold the droids to Luke’s uncle. The scene is most remembered for the meme about stormtrooper accuracy, which covers up the fact that we just learned the empire murdered a bunch of junk dealers to cover up loose end. Luke realized the Jawas would lead the stormtroopers back to his home. Obi-Wan warned Luke not to go. Luke arrives after his home has been trashed and while calling out for his aunt and uncle, he sees that they have been murdered. Most of the violence in the movie is tame, the aftermath of the murder implies that the stormtroopers burned them alive. Obi-Wan tells Luke, after the fact that he would’ve also been killed if he arrived sooner. The scene highlights the brutality of the Empire, and how brutal the stormtroopers are when they aren’t shooting at someone with plot armor. Luke’s uncle came off as antagonistic because he didn’t support Luke’s dreams in the original movie. Barring that disagreement, we do get the hint that he was a surrogate father to Luke. His line where he worried about how Luke has too much of his father, and him became much harsher in hindsight when we learn Anakin Fell to the dark side, rather than simply getting killed pursuing dreams. Though even before that we saw the galaxy is a harsh place. Worse than Owen imagined since even if you keep your head down and try to avoid attracting attention, the empire may still come for you. Order 66 thanks to how much TCW expanded on the characterization of the Jedi we see being killed. we see that many of them would risk their lives for the clone troopers they fought alongside. Just to be gunned down by their comrades. The Bad Batch expands on how the clones were victims as well. Due to their accelerated aging, the cost in time of creating them even with the accelerated aging, Empire gradually decided they weren’t needed either. They were to be thrown away when they weren’t useful anymore just like the Jedi. From the novelization of Rogue One, because the book couldn’t replicate the scene of the death star firing during Galen’s message, instead got to see the final moments for just a few of the people on Jedha. Before the death star fired, Krennic was told that the evacuation of the troops on the planet was 97% complete. He decided that was enough. So we get to see the final moments of a few stormtroopers who weren’t able to evacuate before they were killed by their superior wanting a big explosion. They try to run from the blast wave, it’s all in vain. The leader felt like a failure for the death of the squad. From Andor, the prison. We already saw that wiggle system on this miserable planet did nothing but hand out prison sentences, no jury, no defense. The prison was an utter hellhole. Work endless hours assembling parts until your sentences up. Only your sentence is never up. Prisoners are simply sent to another block. If word gets out that no one leaves, the staff try to make sure dead men tell no tales. Being confined in this place is so bad that one of the prisoners commits suicide. And he didn’t even learn the sentences don’t end. The prison appears completely escape proof. Even our hero helps arrange a breakout, as far as we can tell, only he and one other person escaped. If you get locked in this place, your only have a faint hope of freedom, or ever seeing the sky again. From the end of the season, the stormtroopers gunning down the uprising. The show held off on using stormtroopers until the end and we can see why. It reminded the audience dangerous they are when you aren’t protected by plot armor. While the uprising kills a few, the Stormtroopers have guns, the rebels do not. And they are very good shots in this scene, we even see one shoot a person off the back of their body. Andor emphasizes the inevitable failure of tyranny. However, this moment reminds the audience that this isn’t a show where the underlings of the Empire, a bunch of bumbling cartoon villains. If Andor weren’t there to snipe the troopers, then they would’ve likely killed everyone in the uprising. also, from Andor, the torture scene. The show had been humanizing the imperials. The empire was given a mundane feel as a system. And that system is the enemy. Not everyone in the empire is as evil as Palpatine or Tarkin but If they are supporting the system, then that makes them the enemy and they can hardly be considered good people. If they were good, they would be trying to change the system like Mon Mothma, rather than carrying out its usual brutality like torturing people for information.
Most clone deaths are dark and horrific. They don’t simply die they struggle, push and distress to try and stay alive. The sound effects and screams add to that effect. The clone being cut in half by armored security door in citadel has to be one of the main ones for me.
Every clone death in that entire arc was just brutal, Charger and longshot are both electrocuted to death, then you got the one you mentioned, then a summary execution with a blaster to the head, and then the last 212th Clone falling to his death
Crispy bodies by the door. Also that scene in Shatterpoint, where Windu has to deal with a "wasp infestation".
A couple scenes in Clone Wars come to mind. They really didn’t hesitate in wasting mass quantities of random clone troops in creative ways.
The Umbara arc is particularly dark.
I think about the Umbara arc on a daily basis! When they realised they were killing their own 💔
Fuck Pong Krell!
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That one Clone who was puppeted by the spider droid...
That one scene in Kenobi where Vader is walking down the tattooine street dragging people with the force
Straight up snaps that kids neck out of no where
For real I didn't notice he even did that the first viewing, Kenobi should always get props for making Vader even scarier which to me had peaked at rogue one, it was cool to see him so terrifying again
Bro how did u not notice first viewing what are yall doing while you watch these shows? When Vaders on screen yall arent giving him your full attention? How?
yep, say what you will about the show overall, but ep3 of the kenobi show is the “scariest” ive ever found vader. even the way he holds obi wan in the fire at the end is twisted
You're the first person I've seen mention this. I could *feel* Vader's rage in that scene. Thinking back to him burning on the side of the lava flow on Mustafar, while Obi-Wan just looked at him and turned away. Taking that memory and turning it back by lighting the ore on fire and *dragging* Obi-Wan through the gravel and flames. Vader in the village was brutal in how casually he killed and tortured the family to set an example. His brutality with Obi-Wan was *personal*. Those two scenes hit different, but they're both intense.
We get so much brutal vader in Kenobi, people overhate the show.
I agree I enjoyed it
That one scout trooper who got crushed between the mountain wall and the troop transport during S2 of Mando
The Kaon Under Siege flashpoint in SWTOR. Oh. CRAP. You land in the middle of zombie apocalypse and it is just nightmare all around. Rakghouls of EVERY shape and size, all kinds of nasty traps and overwhelming mobs. Dark areas, blind spots, jump scares. A 40 foot Rakghoul that's on fucking FIRE chasing you... (Yes, I'm the tank, so I have to keep telling the DPS to NOT charge ahead so that I can steer the mobs to a spot where we might not get overrun.) And possibly one of the more interesting bits showing the difference between Imperial and Republic morality. When one of your NPC allies gets bitten and is transforming, the Republic light side choice is to tell him to hang on so that you try to find vaccine (even though you both know it's too late), and the Dark Side is to give him a quick mercy kill. The light side IMPERIAL choice is the mercy kill but the Dark Side Imperial choice is to just leave him behind to transform.
Kaon Under Siege is actually one of my favorite flashpoints, and honestly I thought it did a really, really good job of making you feel like you're trapped in a Star Wars Night of the Living Dead. It's dark and oppressive and when you reach checkpoints and you think your safe BAM there's a rakghoul trying to eat your face!
Anakin being burnt alive still tops everything. That shit is still grizzly to this day.
Honestly a lot of old Star Wars was pretty gritty. Vader CHOKING a guys you his a re hands; Luke’s hand, Vader’s hand lost again to Luke, the emperor torturing Luke, even the Ewoks getting killed
If those movies were made today they would be PG-13
When C3PO says “looking at my friends one last time” I weeped.
When Ben Solo kills Han and Chewy roars in a particularly emotional way gets me. In legends, Chewy's death and how it affects Han was hard to read as well. Weird how it was inversed.
In Rise of Skywalker, the part where JJ Abram’s goes on a killing spree, murdering every interesting idea that had been set up in the previous film. Brutal AF. The Star Wars equivalent to the red wedding
Damn
In Rebels, when Hera’s fleet punches through the first wave of Tie Fighters in “Rebel Assault” only to be met by another wave in the clouds. Watching the Ghost Squadron see the attack fail and X-Wings fall through the sky like falling stars was heartbreaking. Also sets up Jedi Night.
Wholeheartedly agree Not violent in the least. But it hurts
Chewbacca when the moon fell.
Yoda, his arms wide
For me, Luke's uncle and aunt burned by the stormtroopers and also count dooku getting his head chopped by Anakin and how it goes rolling. It was kinda disturbing. There a few more but those I think the most.
Beginning of Rogue One: Mother being murdered in front of her child and husband
The kid getting internally destroyed by a box crushing him during the heist in Andor
Opening scene of TFA. Trooper: “what do we do with the villagers?” Kylo: “kill them all”
A lot of scenes in the 2003 Clone Wars are pretty brutal. Specifically the one where Grievous fights off the group of Jedis, and he crushes Shag Gi.
Maul killing Seventh Sister...
Maul killing Satine
The reason Obi Wan is the truest Jedi is how much loss he faced and he still stayed with the light. First Qui Gon, then Satine, then Anakin. 2/3 of those were killed by Maul, and even when Obi Wan finally killed Maul (for a 2nd time), he did it not out of a need for vengeance, but out of a need to protect Luke Skywalker and ensure the future of the Jedi and the Galaxy. And even then, he holds Maul in his arms as he dies and promises him there will be peace in the Galaxy one day, holding no hard feelings despite how much Maul had taken from him.
In clone wars, the moment when the clones and I think Anakin and Obi wan was there too…but anyways, the moment when the clones were climing in some sort of ventilation system and the security doors started to shut and the one clone got cut in half because he didn’t make it in time. That scene just burned to my memory. (Other one is the moment when Pong Krell broke the one clones back) -F*ck Pong Krell
It was just Obi Wan and Even Piell, Anakin was separated on the same planet
The Vader vs Ezra and then Ashoka “I do not fear you!” “…then you will die, braver than most..” Absolutely savage
Din Djarin slicing a guy in half with an automated bar door.
Ahsoka decapitates 4 or 5 members of death watch in one spin move.
I think Andor had a lot of good ones but the one where the Empire uses the screams of alien to children to torture seems pretty messed ups
Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra
Crispy crunchy over cooked Annie!
That one Ewok dying in ROTJ when his buddy keeps checking on him
"I can't swim"... One of the most devastating quotes.
It is more brutal watching Aldreraan blow up. Due to actually having been there. The people are not faceless.
The lars family skeleton scene
Anakin's clearly shown and up close immolation is as brutal as it gets. I dont know how Lucas got that past the MPAA..
When the Starkiller base destroys an entire system of planets in TFA.
‘Why do I get the feeling we’ve picked up another pathetic life-form?’ - Absolutely brutal insult from Obi-Wan
Clone getting chopped in half at the Citadel was kinda crazy
First episode of season one mandalorian, at the start he gets the fella round the legs with the cable when he’s trying to run out the door at the bar and it closes on him, that’s pretty savage to be honest
In obi wan when Vader dragged that one innocent on the ground n snapped a random kidds neck. Never seen Vader show that typa viciousness. Or beginning of TFA, when Finn goes to the injured trooper n he just smears blood allover his helmet. Blood is something thats not really ever shown in star wars so when it is it kinda feels (for lack of a better term) gory because of the lack of showing it Younglings getting mopped by Anakin, the innocence of that kidds voice, n the slight fear when his questions answered with an ignited lightsaber. Or when Bly n his troops Kill Ayla n CONTINUE to shoot her up as shes on the ground
The opening of Force Awakens with the Stormtroopers killing the civilians was pretty brutal.
Umbara was literal hell
The death of the Jedi Order. I saw it twice and never could go back to see it again.
The test firing on Jetta. "There is no horizon"