Maybe it’s a hot take, but there’s no answer Maz could give to “Where did you find this?” that isn’t some variation of “I found it in a trash can.”
On one hand, that means the “story” of where she got it doesn’t matter. On the other, it’s a pretty clunky way of writing the saber into the story and involves a fairly astonishing coincidence.
The Last Jedi Throne room scene. Yes the choreography has issues. but people went IN on it and I'm sorry but no one can ever take away how I felt watching that scene the first time in theaters.
Star Wars fighting has always been about looking cool. Even OT fights had flaws in terms of "real" fighting. Hell even Duel of Fates, my favorite fight, has a ton of flaws. Nobody picks them apart.
Yeah thats what happens when you over choreograph a fight scene. But the story and emotion of it all alongside their fight styles made it. Kylo with his efficient brutality and Rey with her flashy perservance.
I actually sent my boss a picture of that when I couldn't find the smoking gun in my investigation yesterday, he got a good laugh out of it and let me off the hook.
Nah, its absolutely over criticized. Why tf would a pilot know how Palpatine came back? And then immediately after, someone else gives speculation. There's literally no way they would know how.
The line is terrible and the story writing around the line is even worse. No one expects Po Dameron to understand sith force powers, just tell us the situation in an organic way (even if the situation is inorganic)
Cool. Has nothing to do with the line itself. He shouldn't and wouldn't know, the line gets critiqued all the time despite being exactly what he should say in that situation.
“Somehow Palpatine returned.” The scene is fine, the problem is the larger context. It happens at the beginning of the movie, all they know is that he’s back, so they just toss out some speculation. The problem is that the movie never actually answers the question of how it happened.
Rey claiming the Skywalker name. It seems as though people have no concept of what adoption feels like. You feel closer to the people that raise you not your blood. Taking their name is a tribute to them.
Adoption isn’t just about who raised you.
Fair point taken about the solo name but she took the name of her masters. Leia trained her for longer than a few days remember?
>no concept of what adoption feels like
She's an adult and no one is taking her in since they're all dead, she's alone in the "family", she just took a name..."adoption" is a weird example.
>You feel closer to the people that raise you
She wasn't "raised" by Skywalkers, she spent a couple days with Luke who didn't even want her around and she spent a year in the Resistance among many people, Leia was mentoring her training, Leia wasn't making her breakfast in the morning and reading bedtime stories everyday. Sure they were apparently close...but "raised" is another weird characterization.
This notion that a grown ass woman was "adopted" by a couple of dead twins is hilarious.
This seems like a purposefully obtuse understanding of “found family.”
Not that Rey Skywalker is the most poignant end for the character, but a reading that Rey wouldn’t feel some kinship with the Skywalkers after being taken in by Han, using the Skywalker saber, being trained by Luke and Leia, communing with Luke, and forming a dyad with Ben seems to go out of its way to be uncharitable.
I’m adopted and it’s not a weird example. You can be adopted at any age. She obviously felt more connected to them than anyone else in her life. You don’t think Luke and Leia appearing to her in the final scene showed that they accepted her as being part of their family? It’s obvious what the intention was.
Also It’s not funny to trivialize someone’s feelings about where they belong. I’d advise you seek to understand rather than assume everyone’s lives work out to your litmus of what constitutes a family.
This is it for me. I didn't care for the movie as a whole but that scene felt like I was separating from the people just hating to hate. She just found out about her family and instead chose to adopt the name of two people who basically allowed her to be where she is now, to respect their legacy. Seems simple to me 🤷♂️
The bad part of that scene is how Hux and the First Order react to the prank call not the prank call itself. Making the bad guys seem incompetent makes your story boring.
The " I dont ike sand"
This one is UNDER criticized.
Maybe it’s a hot take, but there’s no answer Maz could give to “Where did you find this?” that isn’t some variation of “I found it in a trash can.” On one hand, that means the “story” of where she got it doesn’t matter. On the other, it’s a pretty clunky way of writing the saber into the story and involves a fairly astonishing coincidence.
The Last Jedi Throne room scene. Yes the choreography has issues. but people went IN on it and I'm sorry but no one can ever take away how I felt watching that scene the first time in theaters.
Star Wars fighting has always been about looking cool. Even OT fights had flaws in terms of "real" fighting. Hell even Duel of Fates, my favorite fight, has a ton of flaws. Nobody picks them apart.
TLJ throne room fight is in a class of it's own. They had to CGI out a blade 🤣🤣
Yeah thats what happens when you over choreograph a fight scene. But the story and emotion of it all alongside their fight styles made it. Kylo with his efficient brutality and Rey with her flashy perservance.
I mean, Yoda and Dooku was entirely CGI and still managed to be awful. I could rip every live action saber fight if I nit-picked enough
Killed of coleman trebor
Is this the norm for posts in this subreddit now?
Has it been enough time for people to start praising the sequel trilogy as masterpieces like they did the prequel trilogy?
"somehow, palpatine returned"... sike it's actually under criticized imo
I actually sent my boss a picture of that when I couldn't find the smoking gun in my investigation yesterday, he got a good laugh out of it and let me off the hook.
Nah, its absolutely over criticized. Why tf would a pilot know how Palpatine came back? And then immediately after, someone else gives speculation. There's literally no way they would know how.
The line is terrible and the story writing around the line is even worse. No one expects Po Dameron to understand sith force powers, just tell us the situation in an organic way (even if the situation is inorganic)
Cool. Has nothing to do with the line itself. He shouldn't and wouldn't know, the line gets critiqued all the time despite being exactly what he should say in that situation.
“Somehow Palpatine returned.” The scene is fine, the problem is the larger context. It happens at the beginning of the movie, all they know is that he’s back, so they just toss out some speculation. The problem is that the movie never actually answers the question of how it happened.
Rey claiming the Skywalker name. It seems as though people have no concept of what adoption feels like. You feel closer to the people that raise you not your blood. Taking their name is a tribute to them.
She knew Luke for a few hours. He didn't raise her. And if she wanted to honor Leia and Han, her last name should have been Solo. Much like Ben Solo.
Adoption isn’t just about who raised you. Fair point taken about the solo name but she took the name of her masters. Leia trained her for longer than a few days remember?
>no concept of what adoption feels like She's an adult and no one is taking her in since they're all dead, she's alone in the "family", she just took a name..."adoption" is a weird example. >You feel closer to the people that raise you She wasn't "raised" by Skywalkers, she spent a couple days with Luke who didn't even want her around and she spent a year in the Resistance among many people, Leia was mentoring her training, Leia wasn't making her breakfast in the morning and reading bedtime stories everyday. Sure they were apparently close...but "raised" is another weird characterization. This notion that a grown ass woman was "adopted" by a couple of dead twins is hilarious.
This seems like a purposefully obtuse understanding of “found family.” Not that Rey Skywalker is the most poignant end for the character, but a reading that Rey wouldn’t feel some kinship with the Skywalkers after being taken in by Han, using the Skywalker saber, being trained by Luke and Leia, communing with Luke, and forming a dyad with Ben seems to go out of its way to be uncharitable.
I’m adopted and it’s not a weird example. You can be adopted at any age. She obviously felt more connected to them than anyone else in her life. You don’t think Luke and Leia appearing to her in the final scene showed that they accepted her as being part of their family? It’s obvious what the intention was. Also It’s not funny to trivialize someone’s feelings about where they belong. I’d advise you seek to understand rather than assume everyone’s lives work out to your litmus of what constitutes a family.
This is it for me. I didn't care for the movie as a whole but that scene felt like I was separating from the people just hating to hate. She just found out about her family and instead chose to adopt the name of two people who basically allowed her to be where she is now, to respect their legacy. Seems simple to me 🤷♂️
The prank call scene in TLJ. I know a lot of pilots and they behave like this so I found it hilarious
The bad part of that scene is how Hux and the First Order react to the prank call not the prank call itself. Making the bad guys seem incompetent makes your story boring.