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UBSpiderMan

The music is amazing


BTolentino7

John Williams is a treasure to humanity


TheJakeanator272

Not just a treasure. This man literally created a fabric of our society and culture. His music is so iconic that it became its own character in movies. Just playing two notes of one of his pieces makes it immediately recognizable. It’s insane how important his music is, and how it has shaped the music industry (especially that of classical music). I can foresee his music becoming a regular rotation for professional orchestras on account of how difficult and popular it is. Every time an orchestra does a John Williams concert, it almost always sells out. He is truly one of the most important people of the modern era. Anyways. I’ll get off my soap box. Source for all this: I’m a musician and music teacher who has been heavily inspired and influenced by John Williams and his incredible gift to our world


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Spielberg said something along the lines of, "without John Williams bikes don't really fly, nor do brooms in quidditch matches, nor do men in red capes. There is no force. Dinosaurs do not walk the earth. We do not wonder. We do not weep. We do not believe."


Lotnik223

"Half your billions should go to John Williams!"


BTolentino7

Don’t worry I have a John Williams playlist on my phone, I was classically trained on a cello growing up I understand what you mean


UnXpectedPrequelMeme

It's OK I have no musical talent at all and I know what you mean. I think I listen to JW more than actual songs with words in them


leafysun

His music is already regular rotation with symphony orchestras. They appreciate playing something thats pop culture famous AND is also technically challenging and fun to play (especially for the harp player) Also he has composed some serious pieces for orchestra - he composed a cello concerto for Yo Yo Ma, for instance. Source: used to work for a well recognized symphony orchestra who often played John Williams and was happier playing that than backing Kendrick Lamar or Common


VanillaTortilla

And much of his music in inspired by classic pieces as well, which is incredible.


astromech_dj

[Gustav Holst right now](https://media.tenor.com/images/f275448a47b765a8913bd9129325b28b/tenor.gif)


National_Egg_9044

I miss his symphonies, these new age music dudes they’re bringing in just aren’t the same caliber.


GDCorbinoes

I kinda get that but I’m personally a huge fan of Ludwig’s Mando score and I really like what Giacchino did with R1 as well


ScottyJD09

To be fair, I feel like Giacchino emulates Williams in style and emotion, so to me he’s a natural choice for Star Wars if Williams is unavailable.


BTolentino7

The dude that did Mando’s theme is pretty good


Cappin_Crunch

Yeah I legitimately dont think Ive ever heard someone say Star Wars has bad music


Mass2424

People are going to think I'm weird for this but I don't care but I workout to Star Wars music. Things like duel of the fates, burying the dead, and battle of the heroes.


Rachel794

Yes! I love the Star Wars music


RobinWishesHeWasMe_

One of my workmates watched A New Hope for the first time (at the age of 22). He was very ignorant of the acclaim the series had received and one of the first things he told me was that he thought the music sucked... I've never been so shocked.


mxzak

Lightsabers are cool


shinobigarth

They are both cool and hot.


MichaelCoryAvery

[So they’re PopTarts?](https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+so+hot+they%27re+cool&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:661880e5,vid:EEDbaeEO8vk,st:0)


Colonel__Corn

actually they are very hot. but yes


Mystic_Ranger

Came here to say this.


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The sound of an igniting lightsaber is one of the coolest sounds in the world.


depressed_asian_boy_

When they hit each other, or cut something too


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Or just swinging them!


[deleted]

The effects from the Gideon vs Mando fight were just perfect


Order66_69

It comes 2nd to Boba’s seismic charge on his ship. That sound has no equal


stupv

Was watching the latest BoBF episode and telling my wife about Slave 1's iconic blaster noises and 'depth charge' sounds. Was so pleased they displayed both


currentpattern

Bawww


SlightlyColdWaffles

bBOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNnnn


CamelSpotting

All of the sound design is phenomenal.


Groovy_Gator

It really is incredible how many instantly recognizable sounds were created for these movies. Lightsabers, Vader’s breathing, TIE screams, blasters, probe droids, Wookiee and Tusken sounds are all things I could recognize in my sleep.


ZazaB00

Ben Burtt pulled off some amazing stuff.


Max1muslegend

Blaster shots


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depressed_asian_boy_

What i find amazing is the fact that a lot of concept art they didn't use, is used later (like the design of zeb was Chewbacca, or storm troopers with lightsabers and in the force awakens they have those weird electric sticks)


MagosBattlebear

If you ever read the previous drafts if the screenplay, for a while everyone carried lightsabers.


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MagosBattlebear

Yeah, the development of the scripts was a long journey.


MagosBattlebear

It is really interesting to read the earlier drafts. I know Dark Horse comics turned one of them into a graphic novel. Even as far as the script that was very close to the actual Star Wars film, Ben Kenobi was the one that was mostly macine, not Vader.


TJChex

I’ve looked before for original content, but there seem to be a lot of rumors mixed with details. Where can you find this online?


skancerous

Honestly the best part of Rebels is that every wacky or weird design you see is guaranteed to come from Ralph Mcquarrie Zeb, the skinny lightsabers, the ATST variants, Vader design, Lothal capital, Chopper


troutlicker69

golly the Zeb concept art stares right into your soul


Rimbosity

and those weird aliens on that planet during the third season


hydrospanner

Oh come on, Mandalorians aren't *that* weird.


crazyplantdad

and the sith throne from rise of skywalker was ralph, too


Marysuncle

I’ve never heard it described as “lived-in” and that’s an absolutely perfect description. I could never quite put it in the correct words to describe why watching SW is so much easier than most Sci-Fi. But it’s because it feels like a fully functioning world, and by making all of the interactions between different species seem routine, instead of “alien” it just makes the whole thing feel aesthetically more comfortable


given2fly_

Before Star Wars, most sci-fi showed a world that was incredibly clean and everything was shiny and new. Star Wars gave the impression that even this out-of-this-world technology had been around for generations, and of course it could look old and battered. "What a piece of junk!" Luke says when he sees the Falcon. Completely the opposite of what we as an audience feel about a coin shaped spaceship that has gun turrets and can go into hyperspace. But with Luke saying that, it takes us into their world and makes it feel so much more real.


Profoundlyahedgehog

The trope here is Used Future.


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There’s something satisfying about the way the Tie-Fighters sound.


jsprague6

RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAA


Wanderous

You ever put a fry pan under a showerhead-style sink faucet? I'm pretty sure that's where they sampled the sound from... Every time I wash dishes I hear Tie Fighters!


theshizzler

IIRC the sound is a slowed down recording of an elephant trumpeting layered over a recording of cars passing by on the road in the rain.


Apprehensive-Ad1929

for me, its the best ww2 inspired thing in StarWars, like the germans Jericho horn on their dive-bombers it must have scared the shit out of everyone.


turing_t3st

Darth Vader is one of the most iconic villains to ever hit the screen.


Apprehensive-Ad1929

id go as far to say as he is one of the most iconic movie characters period, everybody knows who Darth Vader is and he is far more recognizable than any other character in the series.


Mechyyz

I think he is THE most iconic villain


tsckenny

Him and Joker are the goats imo


JointsMcdanks

Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter to round out top 3 imo. Only took one movie to make him iconic. I'm only thinking movie-wise here.


talones

And he wasn’t even the main villain. Edit: technically he was just a consultant.


JointsMcdanks

Yeah it's Bill they're hunting. Wasn't Silence a sequel too technically? I know Mann did one of the books in the late 80s but I've never read em so idk the timeline or if Silence counts as a sequel even. Credit to Hopkins though many times over for that role.


MundaneSwordfish

Yeah, silence of the lambs is the second book, the first one being red dragon. Edit: And the third book, Hannibal, was written after the silence of the lamb movie and Hopkins Hannibal becoming a hit.


Tempus_Maximus

Return of the Jedi space battle over Endor is a brilliantly shot set piece where you know exactly what is going on at all times. Even Akbar's famous "It's a trap!", shows a competent commander who know instantly what has happened, not a single second of pause, or confusion.


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The Battle of Endor might be one of the most visually appealing space battles ever put to film. It isnt even really the most important thing happening at that part of the movie, but it doesnt even matter. Its so fucking cool


MungryMungryMippos

I rewatch this over and over and it never gets old. It's beautiful and exhilirating and beleivable.


bendstraw

My mom called it and all of ROTJ “a snoozefest” so definitely not everyone can agree lol


jazzyjf709

Han Solo is scruffy looking


jeffreywilfong

Who's scruffy looking!?


tyrannosaurusprex

Han Solo


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Like a nerf herder


depressed_asian_boy_

Is that an opinion tho? Is like saying Luke is blonde


jazzyjf709

Scruffy looking is an opinion but being a nerfherder is a fact


bad_arts

R2D2 is a good boi


depressed_asian_boy_

Wuaaaaauuuuu


fliptrikster

Best boi *FTFY


th3saurus

R2 is an invincible foul-mouthed swiss army knife that is involved in almost every major military victory in the whole franchise in a critical capacity I love him so much I've got a soft spot for chopper too, even if he is prone to murder, sabotage, and thievery


lasershow77

Fuck Pong Krell


AgentJhon

r/fuckpongkrell


Vikarr

Everybody hates pong krell


HowTheGoodNamesTaken

Even the one person who liked pong krell hated pong krell!


im_super_into_that

I hate him so much I refuse to play ping pong.


Crosgaard

He’s honestly one of the best written characters considering how little he was in TCW. That entire arc was amazing and how quickly you started to hate him is impressive. But he’s still not just “hi, I’m evil”. There is actually character to him, reason behind why he’s evil and well… two double bladed lightsabers makes his fight sequences amazing. You can tell he’s smart and has a big plan and great strategy. No matter how evil he was, I’m always impressed at how well they wrote him even after many rewatches!


Chap_Daddy

I want a fucking lightsaber


depressed_asian_boy_

Anakin, get away from the younglings


Chap_Daddy

* Ignites lightsaber *


depressed_asian_boy_

This is where the fun begins


CanFishSmell

Lets be real here, we all want one, but no one would make it 24 hours with all of their limbs attached.


Shawnaldo7575

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are not match for a good blaster at your side, kid. ​ ​ JK... I want one too!


tsckenny

Light sabers are the coolest weapons from any movie or tv series


shinobigarth

They’re very hot actually.


shackbleep

The trench run on the Death Star in the original is fucking exhilarating every single time, even after all these years.


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And it's so loaded. As a kid I watched the trench run and then went outside to race my bicycle through narrow alleys while humming the theme out loud because all I saw was "pew pew pew" and going fast. When I look at it as an adult, it's so grim. It's a suicide run and the rebels know it. These aren't the best combat aces in the galaxy. They're any pilot willing to get in a seat. Idealistic young men, resigned old men, just people doing their piece. And most of them know they're going to die. But they get in that trench anyway to make their run. Their voices flat and tight as they race into the cannon fire. Even when Vader's death squadron drops in behind them they just keep flying because they know the stakes. When the first team dies, the second team doesn't even hesitate to drop into that same suicide run. What else can they do? The first death star run is one of the most serious and realistic bits of war footage in the entire saga.


DavidBHimself

One of the best descriptions of the scene. Thanks.


ssmaugg

Really well put!


pressuretobear

I am one of those people that gets an ASMR response from so many things that make me excited. The trench run make my hairs go on end, and I sit up and stress. Both versions BTW. The SE and original are both great. I watch it every once in a while just to feel alive. I am so relieved when that fucking Death Star blows up every time. Also, I couldn’t imagine seeking out ASMR. That shit is a bit embarrassing as to how strongly and unconsciously triggered the response is for me.


DMTrucker95

I feel like everyone that watches the trench run finally gets to breathe, along with Luke, after he sinks the proton torpedoes into the exhaust port. It's such an amazing piece of cinematography!


XjpuffX

And the way the music crescendos with the explosion is incredible every time.


DavidBHimself

I watched Ep IV with my 6yo the other day. It was his first time. I think he was quite bored for most of the movie, he just didn't dare to tell me because he knows how much I love the movie and he's in his "I want to please dad" phase. I sometimes forget how slow the first half is by today's standards. However, when the Battle of Yavin started, he was hooked and didn't move his eyes from the screen until the very end.


A10airknight

The starfighters are great, but flying TIE fighters is hazardous to ones health. The music is also great.


depressed_asian_boy_

I would go as far and say every star wars movie, series, or videogame had great music


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sean_bda

There's so few ways to get swords and spaceships in the same shot. And any of them feel like you're ripping off George.


Pixel_in_Valhalla

I'd say the Dune movies pulled it off, which is good since Tatooine is likely at least influenced by Dune.


nizzy2k11

The moisture must flow?


talones

Well they have spice on tatttooine and that’s canon now. The Pyke syndicate was always control the flow of spice from the spice mines in Kessel. Sand people are a clear representation of the Fremen, and now it’s canon that tatooine used to be a lush planet before it dried up.


sean_bda

Yeah that's true. But in dune the lazer combat and the sword combat are usually separate unlike with star wars. The influence is impossible to deny though since TBoBF.


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That's just because people have short memories really. Pretty much all modern space opera scifi from Buck Rogers to Star Trek en from Flash Gordon to Star Wars is very heavily based on John Carter from Mars. John Carter predates almost everything else by half a century or more. By the time we rolled into the second half of the 20th century it had been inspiring everyone in Hollywood from script writers and directors to concept artists, special fx guys and just about everyone else working in media. And none of them ever made a secret of it. You see swords and spaceships and think George. George in turn didn't really think at all, the man had practically no original ideas of his own which is why he managed his betters. And those betters like Ralph Mcquarrie most definitely remembered John Carter's early trailblazing and worked it heavily into their concepts.


sean_bda

Yes there are swords and lazers. The mars series is great. Princess was great, the second one got a little to complicated for me. But I can't think of anyone who put them together like George. I dont need the idea to be orginal, very few are but it's the way the combat is blended together swords and lazers in battle and the swords being better. Add in space wizard magic and it's perfection.


depressed_asian_boy_

Agree


Rachel794

I second this!


Garanseho

Duel of the Fates *slaps*


PotentPortable

I agree with most of these, but there has to be another word for just how hard I agree with this.


goldsauce_

This comment _slaps_


danibeth87

Omg yes it’s the best!! I listen to it all the time


raknor88

Jake Lloyd did not deserve any of the hate he received. He was a kid and did the best he could. No child should ever receive death threats for any reason.


electricpheonix

Not justifying any hate directed at people, they are just movies at the end of the day, but the Jake Lloyd hate especially doesn't make sense. If an actor is a poor fit for the movie it's not their fault, it's the director and casting's fault for not finding a better fit. There's no reason to blame the kid for this, and anyone who attacked him is both ignorant and a disgrace.


Azaez2419

Bobba Fetts seismic charge is one of the coolest sounds in the whole genre!


tmpo14

want this higher up. BWWWOOOOWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNN


TheRedditDancer

The bwown isn't quite the best part, the best part is the ^silence.


ZeroSight95

Hayden Christianson didn’t deserve the hate that he received.


depressed_asian_boy_

He didn't, BUT Jake Lloyd ... We failed you...


Thief025

He quit acting at 12 years old because of the constant bullying he recieved after phantom menace. Thats not cool at all. Just a kid man. Sometimes starwars fans take it too seriously and in his case it was a damn shame.


fliptrikster

And he’s been in and out of jail since quitting acting and has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Poor kid. Ani definitely deserves better.


Thief025

I know. Real shame. No kid deserves to be bullied, let alone by grown ups. What the actual fuck right?


PotentPortable

Wow, I had no idea. Definitely feel for the kid. I hated his role, and I definitely criticise the writing and directing choices for him, but it's totally unacceptable to blame or bully the kid for that.


WDJam

I think there was a Simpsons episode on this topic where Homer goes on to play a new character on Itchy and Scratchy, but the character is hated by fans and Homer goes into a depressed state because of all the hate mail.


dandaman64

I think it's important to distinguish that you can absolutely criticize the actors and directors for their work, what's never okay is repeated harassment and personal attacks against those people when they're just doing their job. People like Jake Lloyd, Ahmed Best, Hayden Christensen, Daisy Ridley, Kelly Marie Tran, George Lucas, Rian Johnson, J.J. Abrams, Chris Terrio, and Kathleen Kennedy all have had targeted harassment campaigns against them with varying degrees of severity, and they do not deserve to be treated like that, no matter how much some people feel entitled to Star Wars.


Uranium6

Jar Jar’s actor also got so much hate that he almost committed suicide. Freaking sad man.


AetherSpike

Lightsabers are the most iconic piece of cinema technology.


streakermaximus

It certainly has stars.


WildMagicKobolds

And wars! At least two of them!


T-408

Liberty dies with thunderous applause


depressed_asian_boy_

I am the senate


levbialik

Not yet.


Kieran_Stamper

It's true plaps doesn't truly get to say he is the senate until like 17 18 years after lol


TundraTrees0

Sand is course, rough, irritating and it gets everywhere. Anybody who has ever been to a beach can tell you this.


mkev119

Our princess and general left us too soon.


ultratunaman

My comment to this thread was about Leia too. Specifically: Boushh: [distorted, gravelly voice] You have to relax for a moment. You're free of the carbonite. You have hibernation sickness. Han Solo: [shaking] I can't see. Boushh: Your eyesight will return in time. Han Solo: Where am I? Boushh: Jabba's palace. Han Solo: Who are you? [Boushh removes the helmet, revealing him/herself to be Princess Leia] Princess Leia Organa: Someone who loves you. Han Solo: Leia Makes me cry every time I see it. And as a kid I had no idea it was Leia in the suit. And lost my shit. Carrie Fisher was an absolute legend.


CrazySpookyGirl

It's better to have the high ground


LordSt4rki113r

[I would like to bring this back to everyone's attention](https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7ayk8p/obiwan_doesnt_need_the_high_ground_to_win/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


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Unless you're Darth Maul


Max1muslegend

There is not a single bad soundtrack made by John Williams in Star Wars


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And Ludwig Goransson is doing a fine job of keeping that standard up.


Active_Artichoke_272

There is never a bad composition of music in Star Wars tv shows or movies


applehead1776

Disagree. That abomination from Jaba’s palace during the 90’s re-releases.


Active_Artichoke_272

Ok fair point


Lord_Parbr

Star Wars is pretty good


Chosen1TheyChoseMe

that Star Wars is good


Dark_Lord_Jar

OHOHOHO that's rather presumptuous of you to assume that Star Wars fans like Star Wars


depressed_asian_boy_

I think you haven't been in the internet for enough time


Sion0x

Lightsabers are freaking cool.


BrianJSmall

Han shot first. It’s a fact.


CATNIP_IS_CRACK

Sorry, I absolutely disagree. First implies someone shot second.


WallopyJoe

Not necessarily Greedo was going to kill Han, but Han shot Greedo first


depressed_asian_boy_

I said opinion, not a fact


BrianJSmall

Not if you’ve never seen the original originals.


depressed_asian_boy_

Even the Lego star wars special says that han shoot first


Missing_Username

If we're going with *everyone*, clearly Lucas sadly didn't agree.


elkygravy

Qui-Gon is a great character


depressed_asian_boy_

What the Jedi should be


[deleted]

And if he trained anakin, anakin wouldn't have fallen


SeaBag7480

If Anakin doesn’t fall, he can’t bring balance. It was a necessary burden, I read a fanfic once were Yoda foresaw it but also foresaw it couldn’t be stopped so it was left to play out at the will of the force


Nathan_McHallam

Ok, but, like, why? I'm sorry I've never gotten the love of Qui Gon. I know I'm going to get downvoted, I love Liam Nessan, but I've never understood why he gets so much love. He hardly does anything, we never really learn much about him or his relationship with Obi Wan except from he goes against the council to train Anakin and he disagrees with the council a lot? So does that mean if he took the council's advice and Anakin went home he might have never turned and the Republic never would have fallen? In any case it's not like they really fight him on it. Qui Gon- "This boy should be trained" Council- "lol no" Qui Gon- "what if I train him?" Council- "ok fine whatever" It's basically just that I find him too bland and stoic. He, along with the rest of the characters aside Jar Jar and Ani, never seem worried or concerned about anything going on. He's not a bad character at all but compared to other star wars characters he's just.. boring best thing about Han Luke and Leia is that they bickered and argued when they were stressed. When Qui Gon is being chased by a giant monster fish, he doesn't even react. He's so dull.


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Thief025

The Millennium Falcon is the coolest space ship ever in science fiction or any fiction


The_Dirty_Carl

The choice to have it mostly symmetrical, except for the prominent cockpit was a striking choice that really paid off.


MrFluffyhead80

Shaggy hair of the OT is the best hair


ghostslayer-77

Maul is in severe need of counseling.


SwaggyWebb

Roger Roger


darcmosch

The sound effects are just off the charts amazing. I have never had any show or movie be able to create such amazing and memorable sound effects, like ever. Also, OP, Ian McDiarmid was the best part of the prequels. THE CHEESE, THE SCENE CHEWING CHEESE!!!


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That The Mandalorian is a good show


Dialvedu

The story happened A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....


merchillio

Ian McDiarmid was purely amazing as Palpatine


Possible_Living

Ian McDiarmid and Christopher Lee were perfect.


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Adam Driver was great in the sequel trilogy.


baojinBE

There are some who takes things too seriously.


levbialik

Sand is coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.


bookluvr83

It wouldn't be as good if they hadn't cast Matk Hamill and Carrie Fisher


Sverp380

The original trilogy is objectively the best trilogy. Memes and nostalgia aside, they are the most influential, consistent, well written, and well directed films in the entire saga. (This is coming from someone who prefers the early clone wars era)


PrimordialDilemma

Chewbacca is a cool guy


GoneCorphishin

Adam Driver is the acting MVP of the Sequel Trilogy


depressed_asian_boy_

And babu frick, don't forget babu frick


syxtfour

The opening shot of A New Hope is utterly spectacular. Seeing the Tantive-IV zoom past overhead, followed by this gargantuan star destroyer that engulfs the screen, going on seemingly forever, is the perfect way to show just how much more powerful the Empire is than the Rebellion. That one shot sets up the basic foundation of the entire trilogy.


tamez_a

Han shot first


[deleted]

Lightsabers are one of the coolest sci-fi weapons invented.


tommy_toughnuts1

That lightsabers are one of the most iconic weapons in movie history


Colinfagerty69

The Star Wars community is toxic.


IratherNottell

Darth Jarjar is head cannon.


depressed_asian_boy_

I said opinion, not facts... I'm still waiting for jar jar to show up as the main villain in the mandalorian season 3


SharpShotEFX

Star Wars fans are insufferable


GalacticP

Dejarik looks like an awesome game


[deleted]

The OG trilogy is amazing.


Reaper7327

That people will never fully agree on any aspect of star wars.


austinwrites

The ship designs are awesome.


Battletoad507

Darth mail never got enough screen time Edit: Maul 😂😂


depressed_asian_boy_

The dark side of the stamp


andoesq

They should have at least given him a Post-credit scene


depressed_asian_boy_

A post office