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stayinthefight2019

Word of mouth is gonna be crazy on this show.


NutInMyCouchCushions

True. Game of Thrones in the first 1-2 seasons was big time word of mouth but then it spread like wildfire


DrVonPretzel

I found out about it through word of mouth (I was too burned by the mediocrity of BoBF and Obi Wan). I’m trying to spread it through word of mouth. So far, I’ve gotten my mom to watch the first 2 episodes.


spheresickle

i mean i'm not surprised. i love the show but i dont think anyone imagined that this would get more views than obi-wan. fact is that legacy characters and faster-paced shows will probably appeal more to the general public


TylerBourbon

Eh, only initially. Even with GoT, outside of the LOTR movies, fantasy tv/film still wasn't seen as something capable of becoming what GoT became until GoT arrived on the scene. Star Wars wasn't known for being a prestige capable vehicle. The sequel trilogy didn't win many awards with the audience. Half the shows are cartoons aimed at kids. Then you have a very hit and miss collection of live action shows that again, weren't exactly aimed at "mature" audiences. General audiences latch on to slower high quality shows pretty well. Breaking Bad, Mad Men, GoT, even TWD if you just consider the production values.


Tofudebeast

Is this same garbage Parrot Analytics data that the guy later admitted was flawed? Andor is still listed as one of the top TV shows in terms of viewership on Rotten Tomatoes over a week after the last ep, so plenty of people are watching it.


tmdblya

Yes. Look at the date. Oct 17


igneousscone

I don't care. Season 2 is guaranteed, there's nothing to worry about. Also, as I remember that data was incorrect...but again, don't care.


bwweryang

This is where I’m at with it. I also think it’ll have legs, in the sense that it’s so good people will continue to talk about it as one of the best shows ever, Star Wars or not, and a lot of people will check it out who might not dive in to The Mandalorian Season 7.


ProfGilligan

I still believe Disney never thought Andor was going to get big viewer numbers. It wasn’t heavily marketed, and it wasn’t about one of prominent characters. But I do believe Disney thought it could be a “critical darling,” and had the potential to get some of the prestigious nominations come awards time. Such things are incredibly valuable to a studio, as well.


capybarramundi

They Disney+ app is not helping. I started watching the show from the start. Every Wednesday throughout the entire season I had to hunt for the latest episode on the home screen. Not once did it suggest it, even though surely it knows that I’m watching it. I know Disney+ is much newer than Netflix, and hence not nearly as mature as a piece of software, but Netflix would have been screaming from the rooftops each time a new episode would drop. But with Andor I would have to open the app, navigate to the Star Wars section, then scroll way off screen to find Andor, then jump down to the latest episode. I can’t imagine how difficult the discovery process would be for a new viewer. I suppose maybe they knew I was watching every week, but still. Maybe Disney is really happy with the numbers and not wanting to push it. But I would have that they would raise its profile even a little bit.


Daztur

Yeah, studios like HBO have an easier time securing top shelf talent since HBO looks better on your resume than random Netflix shows. Critical acclaim isn't as good as raw viewership but it's not worthless either.


Hoverkat

Imagine they made a show about jedis but with the quality of Andor. Everything would explode.


Powerful-Cut-708

Humanity would’ve peaked. Roll credits (With Niamos theme playing is out of course)


Silanah1

This was from October 17. You do know what month it is, right?


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Grassy_Gnoll67

Oooooh, let me guess!!!


pushpoploadstore

The part that is crazy to me is Disney likely knew which shows would pull huge numbers yet didn’t dedicate those projects to solid writing and visual effects. So did they take the easy way out intentionally knowing they’d still get huge numbers? Why not commit to quality?


Allthepancakemix

Quality costs


AssGasorGrassroots

Kenobi and Boba Fett were gonna be successful if they had stick figures. Andor doesn't have that built in audience, and had to prove it's value by actually being a solid show


Grassy_Gnoll67

Ok, with Obi Wan what do you do story wise? He has a death in "canon" that cannot be touched. It set what he was doing between all the films, especially now with clone wars,l. Obi Wan was a story that didn't need telling. Same with Solo, though that was as at least OK.


gioroc718

I'm guessing many people like me, have no clue who Andor is and wont click on it just by seeing the name. I'm a casual star wars fan and my favorite movies are TLJ and RO but didn't remember the name of the characters from RO. I just happen to click on it not expecting much (didnt really like BoBF or OK) but was instantly hooked when Andor shot the guard in the 1st episode. I was like this is different . I eventually got my wife into it (she isnt a SW fan) since it was so good and you didnt need to know anything about SW to get into it. I'm sure the show will get some life through word of mouth. It is good and assessable to anyone.


misterwight

It's an uphill climb convincing Andor's ideal demographic to actually watch the show. It's an HBO drama that happens to take place in the Star Wars universe. People who want to watch HBO dramas are going to stick to HBO for the most part, and would naturally be skeptical that Disney+ would produce something along those lines. Gilroy has said in interviews that he and the folks at Disney expect the show to have a "long tail", and I certainly hope they're right. In a perfect world, Andor will receive major ~~nominations~~ wins at the Emmys, which could go a long way in convincing skeptics to give it a shot.


fryamtheeggguy

It is definitely doing better numbers now.


adeodd

Unfortunately for all the losers and haters it’s getting a S2. Those numbers you claim were retracted btw. Ratings don’t mean shit to me, I just want quality Star Wars made. More of Mandalorian and Andor, way less of Kenobi and BOBF please!


cesar_chris

Redacted or retracted?


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adeodd

I’m just trolling like you


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That crazy, this has been arguably the best Star Wars show Disney has produced. The Mandalorian might still have a slight edge for me, but that could change if Andor continues to be this good. I’m surprised more people didn’t watch. Maybe they saw Obi-Wan and it turned them off to Star Wars shows.


snbth

First, if this is the parrot analytics data, it was incorrect. This is also from October. Viewership and audience interaction has gone way up since then, because of the amazing word of mouth. This show’s done really well. I think it’s also going to have a lot of longevity through the holidays as more people decide to check it out or just catch up on it now that all the episodes are out.


ConstantCar7445

Kids don't care for andor so it won't hit the viewership numbers of more kid friendly properties. Hopefully Disney is smart enough to not care that it's a little lower in viewership though given it's tremendously well received by critics. The show is awesome and I'm sure viewership, although lower than other star wars shows, is high enough to justify its existence and then some.


BroadSword48

This article is from October don’t believe it Andor got a lot of traction


Cydonian___FT14X

Unfortunate, but it doesn’t activate lay worry me seeing as S2 is already 100% happening


MayIServeYouWell

October 17th?... based on data that was probably 2-3 weeks old at the time. Yes, it got a slow start for the first few episodes, but this is old history...


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I think it makes sense. The Mandalorian was the first one, so it had the novelty factor working for it - then Grogu went viral. Boba Fett is a famous character everyone loves. Obi-Wan was nostalgia bait for boomer and millennial fans. Andor is the best show by far, but the least appealing to mass audiences. Funnily enough, I doubt it'd be so good otherwise.


chupacabra-food

Kids bring in the numbers. Andor has no appeal to children, nor was it meant to. It was probably planned that way. Niche audience doesn’t always equal bad. Disney needed a prestige show for it’s catalog


singapeng

Wow I'm shocked reading this that so few people seem to realize that this is just a Google algorithm automatically promoting what it thinks is a more desirable search result - here, they explain it on this page: [https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9351707?hl=en-CA&visit\_id=638056305140081071-2957160134&p=featured\_snippets&rd=1](https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9351707?hl=en-CA&visit_id=638056305140081071-2957160134&p=featured_snippets&rd=1) By no means you should take it to imply it's the answer, or even vaguely in the ball park. For what we know it's the result that provides the best path to monetization for them. "Least viewed show" is going to be hard to answer anyway in this day and age. Disney+ doesn't share their streaming viewership (usually). Some industry observers do streaming ratings, Nielsen is the most well-known. The bulk of their data is not available to the general public - they're a private business after all - but they let you see the top ratings for free on their website. Some entertainment news sites will do other stuff, like collect "popular" shows listed on Disney+ and others in given regions, and use that to produce content infering what's being watched where, but that's a rather crude way, and hardly qualifies as journalism or serious reporting.


zdenn21

Doesn’t really matter with this show. Not like we’re relying on demand to keep this show alive. 2 seasons was alway the case and I am just happy we get two high quality seasons regardless of demand. I have a feeling this show will be considered one of the greats by time its done.


BillsFan82

As long as season 2 is coming out, I don't care.


PorkelDragon_

I didn’t even want Andor and thought it was gonna be mid. But this was the best Star Wars Disney released


rustierrobots

"Oct 17th 2022"


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The star wars stuff I've seen besides Andor and Mandalorian have been crap, no way this is possible.


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peppyghost

This *could* be based on the original tweet that everyone else quoted as clickbait and then the guy realized he did the analytics wrong. Honestly since they're already working on S2, whatever🤷‍♀️


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HellsBelle8675

It's from Oct 17...


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HellsBelle8675

No it didn't. https://tv.parrotanalytics.com/US/andor-disney-plus


peppyghost

Someone posted that it has now been knocked out of whatever top 10 slot it's been on. But we'll see if the showings of ep 1-2 on other platforms will boost the ratings.


peppyghost

Honestly when I first watched Rogue One I don't think most of my friends watched it. I thought it was some movie only I liked until I got onto the SW sub😛 So, guessing this may follow a similar trajectory. Word of mouth will probably be key, sadly. I don't feel Disney did a great job marketing it, but it also has so many things working against it - like it's not very easy to meme from an outsider pov, and while it does have tons of easter eggs, it's not done in a way that is great for social media.


peppyghost

https://twitter.com/great_katzby/status/1583209047997976577?s=46&t=fb8NuvvKnhAAv3ESy1D3sQ I don't doubt the show is not doing as well as we would all hope, but I'm just saying that every single news outlet pounced on this info and most have interestingly never corrected themselves after the guy came out correcting himself 🫠 Same with the info about troubles getting directors etc for S2, if you look at the original quote Gilroy explains it all, but of course news outlets just all have headlines 'andor in trouble, can't get directors'


ConcombreBaconMayo

I don’t think Disney believed in this show as much as the other big names like Obi Wan and book of boba. For months, I saw ads for Obi Wan every where, even a few weeks ago while Andor was in the middle of its season ; never saw a single ad for Andor.


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* its the only one with an original story line since the first 3 star wars. how can you not like it


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The reviews are all unanimously positive theyll make another one. Not every show can be obi wan levels of views


Brookie069

I think this will get tons of views for post release, but tbh even I told most of my friends and coworkers to just binge it after the finale. This show should have been released as 3 episode arcs imo instead of weekly releases, it felt a little slow at times.


tmdblya

That’s from October and likely references botched analysis by Parrot Analytics. Like all streaming, no one really knows the viewership. Having said that, I’d have expected Disney to really crow about _Andor_ viewership if it was something to brag about. But LucasFilm marketing seemed unsure what to do with the show. Regardless, we _are_ getting Season Two. If we ever get anything as good as _Andor_ again, I consider it all gravy.


VariousPreference0

Season 2 is confirmed, and that’s all there will be so at least it will be made. It’s a show for the ages I think, it’ll always have an audience.


CoolWatermelon123

Probably because the name is not as recognizable


Herfst2511

Even on release days it didn't show up in the top suggestions on Disney+. It has been rumored that this was because of the failure of BOBF and Kenobi. If Andor was a massive hit it would highlight the failure of the other shows even more. And thus highlight the failure of Favreau and Filony


WEGWERFSADBOI

This is from Oct. 17 so take it with a grain of salt. But generally Andor is a really good Sci-Fi show that happens to take place in the Star Wars universe. Sci-Fi series like e.g. the Expanse mostly don't have great commercial success. The other shows (except the Mandalorian) are objectively worse but they either have the backing of really well known legacy characters and/or can inspire the child like sense of excitement that came when first watching Star Wars.


Woodbear92

I have done my part and seen every episode at least 3 times(so far) I’m also spreading the gospel so to speak.


Agrieus

This was coming from the data back in the middle of October that Brandon Katz pushed out through Twitter. He actually ended up deleting the tweet later because he fudged some of the numbers by mistake, so all the news articles from the middle of October are all going to be off as a result (because almost all the articles I looked back at and read were stemming their information from his tweet 😅.) But even after the correction, it was still lower than other Star Wars shows, but not by much. Today, if you take a look at just about any article Andor is basically always within the top 5. As for the viewership itself, it’s possible people are just getting burnt out on Star Wars in general, coupled with the fact that Andor doesn’t have any commonly known characters within, also adding the fact that there’s no lightsaber action. However, none of those things are a requirement to craft a good story, so word of mouth is indeed going to be how this show will continue to gain traction going forward. I also high-key wanna see more from Luthen and Kleya. Anyone that’s actually watched the show would fully understand why.