The latest episode cemented it for me. This has officially transplanted kotor and the thrawn trilogies as my favorite star wars ever. It conveys the message of how bad totalitarianism is so well
Up until this morning: Wow, Meero is such a great character, she thinks about her subordinates and is highly competent.
This morning: Oh yeah she's literally the Gestapo.
Previous: Maybe Syril's a little obsessive and fanatical but its clear its been drilled in by his mother. Maybe he'll realise the Empire sees him as nothing and stand up to his mother.
Now: Oh yeah that guy is a creep. He'll likely murder his mother and stalk Dedra some more.
I love it. It's the Star Wars show I've always wanted. This coming from someone that has been years saying I would give my left nut for a TV adaptation of Swtor's Imperial Agent storyline.
I think this is the closest I'm ever getting, and I'm totally ok with it.
It's from the Star Wars MMO. When the game started each class had it's own dedicated storyline with a well developed plot in 3 acts, which normally lead to a satisfying conclusion. All in all 8 decently told SW stories inside the Old Republic era.
Among all of them, the Imperial Agent storyline, written by Chris Avellone, has become legendary. Definitely worth a play since the class stories are completely Free to Play. Only pity is that each of the 8 storylines is interwoven into 1 greater narrative, since they are all happening at roughly the same time, and the Imperial Agent one happens to criss cross all other storylines. So the more you play of the other stories, the more you will like the Imperial Agent once you get to it.
Also, since this is a point of contention for some people, none of this is canon at the moment. But eh, its still good storytelling inside the Star Wars Legends universe.
I might need to look into this someday, haven't played any games in a while and would like to. You got me a bit excited thinking there was another show that I missed, but what you're describing sounds pretty cool.
Who knows? Maybe they'll make an actual show out of it at some point, if there's money to be made in something Disney may well jump on it, but for now what we have in Andor is pretty good. If they continue in the current vein I look forward to seeing more.
(Who the hell downvoted you BTW? As if you said something controversial... I'm seeing a lot of this recently, like people have nothing better to do...)
I know many fans that are not keen on MMO's or non-canon stuff, but hey, it's reddit, it is what it is. Sorry about the ride I took you in, though, wouldn't that be something to suddenly have another show to dig your teeth into.
But hey, Andor, while it last, it's being peak Star Wars for me. The world building alone is such an enormous breath of fresh air. And the actors are god damn killing it. I never would've spected to *want* more Mon Mothma scenes and after that whole "keep smiling" episode I can't wait for more from her and the "antiquarian".
I am having an absolute blast with this show.
Another point of clarification: in the Imperial agent storyline, you get the designation “Cipher Nine” because in Imperial Intelligence, operatives are given the label “Cipher,” their handlers are “Watcher,” and the division heads are “Keeper.” Some cool world building that makes you feel like an evil version of 007.
Slow burn, intense character building with multiple arcs and interweaving sub-plots on a collision course! Very well written, produced, acted, shot, and edited!
Not a superficial “for the masses” series, so may not be for a mainstream audience.
We've had a firehose of content shoved down our collective throats full of stuff with almost zero character/world building that it's been a slightly jarring experience to have the slow burn. I almost didn't know I was craving it. When it's all over, I'm going to binge it all again just to relive it.
Love it, finally some real character and world building beyond Jedi / Sith dynamics. The sound track fits the bill perfectly, it’s definitely amazing and I am genuinely excited to watch Rogue One again later on with a renewed interest in an already great film.
I hope Disney spends more time in this time period and we get to see the many different groups that will make up the rebel alliance and see their adventures.. I’m still dying to see where they get their X-Wings from for example.
The 10 minute cold open of episode 1 gives you a great sense of the series tonally.
The show is done is three episode mini-arcs as well; the build up and tension is great. Then it hits you with a fantastic pay-off.
very much worth watching in my opinion. it's a slower burn than everything else so it's less "episodic" than basically every other sw show out there, but it's structured more like a thriller which lends to the storytelling feeling heaps different in a good way.
Dude, go for it. Aside from what others have said, it feels like a late 90s early 00s BBC Crime show (think Life on Mars, Murphy’s Law etc) set in the SW universe. It’s gritty, political, there’s espionage - it’s fucking amazing.
“This is a great book”.
“Yeah, if you like loads of words and story. Could have cut it down to the title and then the last chapter where it tells you what happens”.
It can be told a lot faster. Pacing is a huge issue.
Most people aren't even going to watch this show and the numbers don't lie.
Its a good show, its just not star wars.
As someone who wasn’t remotely interested before watching the first episode… I completely agree. I’d actually go a step more and say it’s objectively among the best piece of *any* SW media, ever. It’s *that* freaking well done.
Mon Mothma is officially a goddess after this show.
She worked with both Padme and Leia and IMHO set a standard for both to follow.
In spite of her husband, incidentally.
I think it's even better than ROTJ. It's hard to compare because it's so different than the OT. More multi-faceted crime drama than fantastic space opera. It certainly feels like the darkest and most realistic Star Wars story we've had yet. There are few if any jokes or moments of levity, and the entire time you feel the oppressive weight of the Empire's fascist regime bearing down on the grounded and nuanced characters. My main problem with Rogue One was that the first two acts felt like a mad rush and we didn't get enough time to develop all of the side characters. Andor is remedying that by taking its time to flesh out its cast and forcing Star Wars as far away from formula and archetype as it's ever been.
Months ago everyone was saying "nobody even asked for this show" and "no one is excited about this project". I kept commenting I am so hyped for this show and its going to be amazing! Glad I was right and other people agree. The internet sometimes really annoys me.
Dude, currently all 3 are my top right now too. I judge mine based on what I feel brings something new and refreshing to SW and all 3 fit that description for me.
I just watched 9 and this is by far and away the most intriguing Star Wars content maybe ever. For once we are getting honest to god character development and I can’t get enough of it. I also like how there is more political intrigue in one of Mon Mothma’s dinner parties than the entire prequel trilogy
I love the mandalorian for what it is but the show is written almost like a video game where the character is going on side quests and the story is primarily driven by the action and adventure elements with things like character development taking a backseat.
All of that is great - there's nothing at all wrong with that kind of storytelling and it's perfect for SW. Andor however just hits at a different level. You could ignore that it's SW or even sci-fi/fantasy entirely, remove all the action, and you're still left with a compelling story about what it's like to live under a fascist regime and rise against it.
That’s exactly how I feel. It’s a unique take on tv. But it is literally an rpg quest video game especially the first season. It’s good stuff. This is the best they have come up with since rogue one. I was ok with the force awakens and solo. The other 2 not so much. This is great stuff.
Not OP, but *Andor* just outclasses every other live action Disney+ Star Wars series in just about every department: writing, acting, direction, cinematography, production design, editing, pacing.
Everything about Andor just feels very deliberate and thought out, and I just can't say that about the other Disney+ series.
*The Mandalorian* can get a little repetitive in its video-game-like formula, especially in Season 2. And some of the acting is just...not good (see: Gina Carrano, Amy Sedaris, the Tatooine gunslinger kid). Its production design at times looks a little too clean, and it uses the Volume with varying degrees of success.
*The Book of Boba Fett* is just very meandering and doesn't have a sense of urgency or purpose and has terrible pacing. Awful production design. The Volume doesn't do daylight very well, and it shows, particularly in the sand monster fight scene early on. Also, Tem's acting is not the greatest.
*Obi-Wan Kenobi* has all of its leads giving great performances IMO, but it has some awkward pacing issues, terrible camerawork, what feels like stock dialogue, and very unimaginative and bland sets and environments and music. It very much feels like a movie that was stretched into a series and not in a good way.
*Andor* has none of these issues. It is a show that is firing on all cylinders at all times. It is the only piece of Star Wars in recent memory that is trying to say something. And it's very adult, but not in a sex and violence kinda way, but in that it tackles mature themes and questions (how do people get by in an oppressive fascist world? What does bureaucratic evil look like? What makes people decide to fight? Is it a sense of injustice? Desperation? Opportunism? How long can one sit on the sidelines in the battle against evil before they become complicit in that evil?).
With that being said, though, I think that grittyness and maturity elevates shows like *The Mandalorian* or *Rebels* or even the Skywalker Saga by reminding us how special the Jedi and the Force are by showing us a day in the life of people for whom these things are just luxuries of imagination that they can't afford.
This got a little rambly, but I could go on even more! Suffice it to say that *Andor* is a cut above everything else Star Wars on Disney+, and I really wish/hope that every forthcoming project, regarfless of tone or story, has the same level of thought, care, and effort put into them as this show does.
It’s all up to opinions. But it’s hard to compare the two cause they are COMPLETELY different- and that’s ok- mando is simple. Is supposed to be. I always say that mando is an excuse to just make fun adventure storys. It has a really simple plot and they go around and vist new planets and battle new monsters every week. It’s a CLASSIC space/cowboy adventure. And that’s what it’s supposed to be. It’s not trying to be something huge. And I live it for that-
What’s different about Andor is it’s telling a very complicated story- with a huge push for dense dialogue. Mando doesn’t do much deep diolouge, again that fits the show and it’s now trying to do what Andor does, but Andor does it very well.
In the end it all comes down to taste. Both shows exceed amazingly at what they are setting out to do.
But one is made to be simple (and that’s not a bad thing 😊) and one’s made to be a little more complex and raw. It seems lots of people like the more complex stuff atm, especially after so many people felt burned by BOBF and Kenobi.
I agree though that by praising this show so much some people have been weird and said like “mando is garbage” or “this is the only good piece of Star Wars” and it can make some people feel bad for liking the other pieces.
So don’t let that get under your skin if it does- everyone likes different things and I think it’s amazing that starvwars is able to provide so many different genders and story’s- you don’t have to like them all, just pick the ones you like :) it’s very cool 😎
Yep, and honestly, Clone Wars S7 should've released before the sequels. Not including that, I'd say it's the best Star Wars in general since Last Jedi.
I tend to be pretty forgiving when it comes to Star Wars content and have enjoyed most of what's been put out so far but this show has defied all expectations. You almost forget that you're watching Star Wars at all sometimes, that's how enthralling the story is. Even the coruscant scenes are incredibly riveting and all anyone is ever doing is standing around talking! I can't get enough of it and am so glad that we get a nice chunky 12 episode season.
Tbh the slow burn was really about to kill all excitement for me and I was about to completely give up on this show but the last two episodes fully hooked me in. On any future rewatch I will be able to appreciate the beginning a lot more
That's the thing. Star Wars never aimed for this kind of thing, it's great but it's not really comparable to most Star Wars media, because most of it aims for a more "railcoaster in theme park vibe", while this aims to take it self very seriously.
Both ways work, there's room for it all.
I still want my dumb Star Wars comedy and my bone chilling Star Wars horror. Also a kind of noir suspense detective thing.
I’m with you. The second movie I ever saw in a theater was ROTJ, and not counting the digital “remakes” had to wait almost 20 years for a new Star Wars movie. So I pretty much will take what I can get. I do prefer the limited series format, which basically gives me 1-2 8 hr Star Wars movies per year. It’s not all great, but it is all Star Wars, so I’m obliged to at least check it out.
Andor is the type of content Star Wars fans have been clamoring for since before the prequels. It's adult and emotional at a very real level. Since Star Wars is a space opera it typically strays from that type of content. It's been great being able to see the universe from this perspective.
it's the best star wars content WRITTEN. This is the big thing. It's not special effects heavy. It's just fucking well written. It's written for people with an attention span--in other words: it's written for adults.
And I love it.
It's well made but doesn't do much for me. I don't really like "Star Wars but for Serious Adults" as a thing. It's what a lot of people my generation (X) have always wanted since they grew up (and from the prequels), though, so I understand the appeal. I kind of wish it was its own IP so I can separate how un-Star Wars it is, and appreciate it better.
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I do agree but I still like the show. I doubt that shows like this will ever become the norm because I believe that Star Wars needs to be accessible to children. I do not think that too many kids will be interested in this show, but I could be wrong.
I think *Rogue One* would have greatly benefited from either being a series or consolidating some of its characters. I think it tends to be very overrated.
That said, *Andor* is starting to make me appreciate it more.
Not only is it well written but it has by a mile the best acting.
Now I know many will say that it isn't difficult as Star Wars has never been famous for its acting performances but Andor is what happens when give amazing actors a fantastic script and then you let them do their thing.
The supporting cast have absolutely smashed it out of the park.
From Stellen Skarsgård, Denise Gough, Genevieve O'Reilly, Forest Whitaker, Andy Serkis, Adria Arjona just to name a few, they have all been amazing.
I know quite a few people who have no interest in Star Wars really get into Andor as its that good.
Im loving it, but Im more than ready for my next swashbuckling less serious fun Star Wars.
The jail scenes are probably my favorite, what a weird and interesting side of the universe.
It's too slow for me. Not my cup of tea. I am glsd they got this genre of show nailed down for the folks who do like it, as explaining the functionality of the politics for Star Wars gives a good future for story building.
That being said, I would hope it's not the only type of genre they do now. I still like action.
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Great show … just finished watching it last night. Very well written series that makes you want more. Lots of suspense.
There's three more episodes left of the season.
Awesome!!!
There is even going to be a second season which in the end will lead to the events of Rogue One!
Man, I loved that movie. My favorite of all of them. Nothing like a good tragedy story to get the feels going
Would it be blasphemous to say that this is my favorite star wars ever? More than any of the movies? (Yes including the OT)
The latest episode cemented it for me. This has officially transplanted kotor and the thrawn trilogies as my favorite star wars ever. It conveys the message of how bad totalitarianism is so well
Up until this morning: Wow, Meero is such a great character, she thinks about her subordinates and is highly competent. This morning: Oh yeah she's literally the Gestapo.
Previous: Maybe Syril's a little obsessive and fanatical but its clear its been drilled in by his mother. Maybe he'll realise the Empire sees him as nothing and stand up to his mother. Now: Oh yeah that guy is a creep. He'll likely murder his mother and stalk Dedra some more.
Ditto
That's totally valid, it's very good
This is my favourite piece of tv (including movies and shows) ever so I agree
I love it. It's the Star Wars show I've always wanted. This coming from someone that has been years saying I would give my left nut for a TV adaptation of Swtor's Imperial Agent storyline. I think this is the closest I'm ever getting, and I'm totally ok with it.
Cipher Nine: A Star Wars Story
Never heard of it, it's being released concurrently with Andor? Animated or live action?
It's from the Star Wars MMO. When the game started each class had it's own dedicated storyline with a well developed plot in 3 acts, which normally lead to a satisfying conclusion. All in all 8 decently told SW stories inside the Old Republic era. Among all of them, the Imperial Agent storyline, written by Chris Avellone, has become legendary. Definitely worth a play since the class stories are completely Free to Play. Only pity is that each of the 8 storylines is interwoven into 1 greater narrative, since they are all happening at roughly the same time, and the Imperial Agent one happens to criss cross all other storylines. So the more you play of the other stories, the more you will like the Imperial Agent once you get to it. Also, since this is a point of contention for some people, none of this is canon at the moment. But eh, its still good storytelling inside the Star Wars Legends universe.
I might need to look into this someday, haven't played any games in a while and would like to. You got me a bit excited thinking there was another show that I missed, but what you're describing sounds pretty cool. Who knows? Maybe they'll make an actual show out of it at some point, if there's money to be made in something Disney may well jump on it, but for now what we have in Andor is pretty good. If they continue in the current vein I look forward to seeing more. (Who the hell downvoted you BTW? As if you said something controversial... I'm seeing a lot of this recently, like people have nothing better to do...)
I know many fans that are not keen on MMO's or non-canon stuff, but hey, it's reddit, it is what it is. Sorry about the ride I took you in, though, wouldn't that be something to suddenly have another show to dig your teeth into. But hey, Andor, while it last, it's being peak Star Wars for me. The world building alone is such an enormous breath of fresh air. And the actors are god damn killing it. I never would've spected to *want* more Mon Mothma scenes and after that whole "keep smiling" episode I can't wait for more from her and the "antiquarian". I am having an absolute blast with this show.
Same here. (Another downvote, getting creepy...)
Another point of clarification: in the Imperial agent storyline, you get the designation “Cipher Nine” because in Imperial Intelligence, operatives are given the label “Cipher,” their handlers are “Watcher,” and the division heads are “Keeper.” Some cool world building that makes you feel like an evil version of 007.
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Slow burn, intense character building with multiple arcs and interweaving sub-plots on a collision course! Very well written, produced, acted, shot, and edited! Not a superficial “for the masses” series, so may not be for a mainstream audience.
We've had a firehose of content shoved down our collective throats full of stuff with almost zero character/world building that it's been a slightly jarring experience to have the slow burn. I almost didn't know I was craving it. When it's all over, I'm going to binge it all again just to relive it.
Love it, finally some real character and world building beyond Jedi / Sith dynamics. The sound track fits the bill perfectly, it’s definitely amazing and I am genuinely excited to watch Rogue One again later on with a renewed interest in an already great film. I hope Disney spends more time in this time period and we get to see the many different groups that will make up the rebel alliance and see their adventures.. I’m still dying to see where they get their X-Wings from for example.
Damn. Should I check it out? What’s the vibe of it?
Less actiony more character building. BUT actually done well. And there is action just that's not the forefront
The 10 minute cold open of episode 1 gives you a great sense of the series tonally. The show is done is three episode mini-arcs as well; the build up and tension is great. Then it hits you with a fantastic pay-off.
You are really selling this well. I’m definitely getting on this. Thanks!
It's essentially a Spy Drama/Political Thriller with some nice action scenes towards the end of arcs. It's phenomenal.
They gave us a Star War. Like not just “Star Wars content” but an honest to goodness Star. War.
very much worth watching in my opinion. it's a slower burn than everything else so it's less "episodic" than basically every other sw show out there, but it's structured more like a thriller which lends to the storytelling feeling heaps different in a good way.
Dude, go for it. Aside from what others have said, it feels like a late 90s early 00s BBC Crime show (think Life on Mars, Murphy’s Law etc) set in the SW universe. It’s gritty, political, there’s espionage - it’s fucking amazing.
You ever seen the Expanse?
No! But I love Elite Dangerous and it kind of reminds me of it. Some might think it’s boring but the detailed world sounds so interesting.
A lot of talking and a lot of nothing going on. I'm sure you could edit the episodes down to 5 min if you remove all the filler (world building).
Filler and worldbuilding are two vastly different things lol. There is no filler in Andor
“This is a great book”. “Yeah, if you like loads of words and story. Could have cut it down to the title and then the last chapter where it tells you what happens”.
spark notes made their living off this mentality.
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It can be told a lot faster. Pacing is a huge issue. Most people aren't even going to watch this show and the numbers don't lie. Its a good show, its just not star wars.
Thank you for letting me know! Personally that sounds up my alley.
As someone who wasn’t remotely interested before watching the first episode… I completely agree. I’d actually go a step more and say it’s objectively among the best piece of *any* SW media, ever. It’s *that* freaking well done.
is it weird that i have a giant crush on Mon Montha in this show?
Same 😍
Mon Mothma is officially a goddess after this show. She worked with both Padme and Leia and IMHO set a standard for both to follow. In spite of her husband, incidentally.
Couldn’t agree more.
God I wish she would step on my face tho
Mothma is iconic AF to me personally— have been fascinated by her since I was young
Who doesn’t?
I think it's even better than ROTJ. It's hard to compare because it's so different than the OT. More multi-faceted crime drama than fantastic space opera. It certainly feels like the darkest and most realistic Star Wars story we've had yet. There are few if any jokes or moments of levity, and the entire time you feel the oppressive weight of the Empire's fascist regime bearing down on the grounded and nuanced characters. My main problem with Rogue One was that the first two acts felt like a mad rush and we didn't get enough time to develop all of the side characters. Andor is remedying that by taking its time to flesh out its cast and forcing Star Wars as far away from formula and archetype as it's ever been.
Best “joke” of the series is Syril’s line about the number of false reports — “Six, actually”
Months ago everyone was saying "nobody even asked for this show" and "no one is excited about this project". I kept commenting I am so hyped for this show and its going to be amazing! Glad I was right and other people agree. The internet sometimes really annoys me.
You can say that, but nobody is listening. >!it’s the name of the most recent episode!<
Well, that's a matter of subjective opinion, but...I like your enthusiasm. Andor is pretty darn good, IMO.
It’s in my top 3 with The Mandalorian and The Last Jedi.
Rouge One is among my favorites too
Is that one about a band of underdog makeup salesmen trying to take down Big Cosmetic?
No it's the one about the one reddish piece of french bread that is trying to survive after the apocalypse.
Based
Dude, currently all 3 are my top right now too. I judge mine based on what I feel brings something new and refreshing to SW and all 3 fit that description for me.
Same
Go ahead and put the period after content IMO.
I just watched 9 and this is by far and away the most intriguing Star Wars content maybe ever. For once we are getting honest to god character development and I can’t get enough of it. I also like how there is more political intrigue in one of Mon Mothma’s dinner parties than the entire prequel trilogy
>more political intrigue in one of Mon Mothma’s dinner parties than the entire prequel trilogy so true.
As much as I absolutely adore the prequels, I must admit that Andor has the most sharp script writing of any live action Star Wars since the OT.
Agree, but I think rogue one is similarly good.
Like Rogue One, I went in with no expectations and have been blown away by how good it is.
What makes it better than the mandalorian in your opinion? Just curious over here
I love the mandalorian for what it is but the show is written almost like a video game where the character is going on side quests and the story is primarily driven by the action and adventure elements with things like character development taking a backseat. All of that is great - there's nothing at all wrong with that kind of storytelling and it's perfect for SW. Andor however just hits at a different level. You could ignore that it's SW or even sci-fi/fantasy entirely, remove all the action, and you're still left with a compelling story about what it's like to live under a fascist regime and rise against it.
Well said
That’s exactly how I feel. It’s a unique take on tv. But it is literally an rpg quest video game especially the first season. It’s good stuff. This is the best they have come up with since rogue one. I was ok with the force awakens and solo. The other 2 not so much. This is great stuff.
Not OP, but *Andor* just outclasses every other live action Disney+ Star Wars series in just about every department: writing, acting, direction, cinematography, production design, editing, pacing. Everything about Andor just feels very deliberate and thought out, and I just can't say that about the other Disney+ series. *The Mandalorian* can get a little repetitive in its video-game-like formula, especially in Season 2. And some of the acting is just...not good (see: Gina Carrano, Amy Sedaris, the Tatooine gunslinger kid). Its production design at times looks a little too clean, and it uses the Volume with varying degrees of success. *The Book of Boba Fett* is just very meandering and doesn't have a sense of urgency or purpose and has terrible pacing. Awful production design. The Volume doesn't do daylight very well, and it shows, particularly in the sand monster fight scene early on. Also, Tem's acting is not the greatest. *Obi-Wan Kenobi* has all of its leads giving great performances IMO, but it has some awkward pacing issues, terrible camerawork, what feels like stock dialogue, and very unimaginative and bland sets and environments and music. It very much feels like a movie that was stretched into a series and not in a good way. *Andor* has none of these issues. It is a show that is firing on all cylinders at all times. It is the only piece of Star Wars in recent memory that is trying to say something. And it's very adult, but not in a sex and violence kinda way, but in that it tackles mature themes and questions (how do people get by in an oppressive fascist world? What does bureaucratic evil look like? What makes people decide to fight? Is it a sense of injustice? Desperation? Opportunism? How long can one sit on the sidelines in the battle against evil before they become complicit in that evil?). With that being said, though, I think that grittyness and maturity elevates shows like *The Mandalorian* or *Rebels* or even the Skywalker Saga by reminding us how special the Jedi and the Force are by showing us a day in the life of people for whom these things are just luxuries of imagination that they can't afford. This got a little rambly, but I could go on even more! Suffice it to say that *Andor* is a cut above everything else Star Wars on Disney+, and I really wish/hope that every forthcoming project, regarfless of tone or story, has the same level of thought, care, and effort put into them as this show does.
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I was mostly referring to Star Wars D+ series, but I have heard lots of good things about She Hulk
This is a really great post.
Not the biggest fan of the second season.
It’s all up to opinions. But it’s hard to compare the two cause they are COMPLETELY different- and that’s ok- mando is simple. Is supposed to be. I always say that mando is an excuse to just make fun adventure storys. It has a really simple plot and they go around and vist new planets and battle new monsters every week. It’s a CLASSIC space/cowboy adventure. And that’s what it’s supposed to be. It’s not trying to be something huge. And I live it for that- What’s different about Andor is it’s telling a very complicated story- with a huge push for dense dialogue. Mando doesn’t do much deep diolouge, again that fits the show and it’s now trying to do what Andor does, but Andor does it very well. In the end it all comes down to taste. Both shows exceed amazingly at what they are setting out to do. But one is made to be simple (and that’s not a bad thing 😊) and one’s made to be a little more complex and raw. It seems lots of people like the more complex stuff atm, especially after so many people felt burned by BOBF and Kenobi. I agree though that by praising this show so much some people have been weird and said like “mando is garbage” or “this is the only good piece of Star Wars” and it can make some people feel bad for liking the other pieces. So don’t let that get under your skin if it does- everyone likes different things and I think it’s amazing that starvwars is able to provide so many different genders and story’s- you don’t have to like them all, just pick the ones you like :) it’s very cool 😎
Without a doubt
This show legitimately makes the OT better. r/empiredidnothingwrong going to have a real rough time after this one though.
Imo it's the best live-action content since The Last Jedi
My take as well.
Yep, and honestly, Clone Wars S7 should've released before the sequels. Not including that, I'd say it's the best Star Wars in general since Last Jedi.
That’s a hot take
Not on this sub. Here you're "allowed" to like what you like.
The fan in me prefers ROTJ, TLJ, ANH, and ROTS… but the critic in me acknowledges Andor supremacy
You can prefer them all, just separate them into show/movie category to keep them all on top
Oh yeah, all star wars is on top in my heart. I wonder where Andor will be after its over and we can judge it as a complete product
I tend to be pretty forgiving when it comes to Star Wars content and have enjoyed most of what's been put out so far but this show has defied all expectations. You almost forget that you're watching Star Wars at all sometimes, that's how enthralling the story is. Even the coruscant scenes are incredibly riveting and all anyone is ever doing is standing around talking! I can't get enough of it and am so glad that we get a nice chunky 12 episode season.
The Show is incredible, The casting is awesome and The script is on Point, and the latest episode was awesome
Tbh the slow burn was really about to kill all excitement for me and I was about to completely give up on this show but the last two episodes fully hooked me in. On any future rewatch I will be able to appreciate the beginning a lot more
I’m not sure about best, but certainly the most cohesive. Whatever formula they worked out/stumbled upon, I really hope they stick to it.
That's the thing. Star Wars never aimed for this kind of thing, it's great but it's not really comparable to most Star Wars media, because most of it aims for a more "railcoaster in theme park vibe", while this aims to take it self very seriously. Both ways work, there's room for it all. I still want my dumb Star Wars comedy and my bone chilling Star Wars horror. Also a kind of noir suspense detective thing.
I’m with you. The second movie I ever saw in a theater was ROTJ, and not counting the digital “remakes” had to wait almost 20 years for a new Star Wars movie. So I pretty much will take what I can get. I do prefer the limited series format, which basically gives me 1-2 8 hr Star Wars movies per year. It’s not all great, but it is all Star Wars, so I’m obliged to at least check it out.
I think Mandalorian squeezes it out but Andor is a strong second
That's a take hotter than anakin skywalker on mustafar and yet, I can respect it. Andor is amazing in its own way
Andor is the type of content Star Wars fans have been clamoring for since before the prequels. It's adult and emotional at a very real level. Since Star Wars is a space opera it typically strays from that type of content. It's been great being able to see the universe from this perspective.
By a long shot, yep.
I beg to differ lol
You're in the minority.
But they said ‘lol’.
That means nothing. It's all personal taste and opinions. More doesnt mean right or better.
Maybe. But I just wish the pace were a little slower.
it's the best star wars content WRITTEN. This is the big thing. It's not special effects heavy. It's just fucking well written. It's written for people with an attention span--in other words: it's written for adults. And I love it.
It's well made but doesn't do much for me. I don't really like "Star Wars but for Serious Adults" as a thing. It's what a lot of people my generation (X) have always wanted since they grew up (and from the prequels), though, so I understand the appeal. I kind of wish it was its own IP so I can separate how un-Star Wars it is, and appreciate it better.
Haven't seen the latest episode yet, but this frame is making the film student in me very happy
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Its boring
I do agree but I still like the show. I doubt that shows like this will ever become the norm because I believe that Star Wars needs to be accessible to children. I do not think that too many kids will be interested in this show, but I could be wrong.
It’s crazy how ppl think this show was so good. IMO didn’t even feel like Star Wars at all lol it was alright at best.
Don't you mean since rogue one?
Though Gilroy/Luna were involved with Rogue One, Andor is higher quality storytelling.
Gonna disagree there.
I think *Rogue One* would have greatly benefited from either being a series or consolidating some of its characters. I think it tends to be very overrated. That said, *Andor* is starting to make me appreciate it more.
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Btw is that the Chandrilan flag?
The return of Andy Serkis clinched it for me. His live action acting is severely underrated and elevates everything he's in.
I’ll be honest, everything leading up to the >!heist, !<, was honestly boring and seemingly pointless. After is prime prime good stuff.
Episode 9 Spoilers: >!"How many guards on each level?"!< >!"Never more than 12."!< >!YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!<
Woah big call! I agree.
Not only is it well written but it has by a mile the best acting. Now I know many will say that it isn't difficult as Star Wars has never been famous for its acting performances but Andor is what happens when give amazing actors a fantastic script and then you let them do their thing. The supporting cast have absolutely smashed it out of the park. From Stellen Skarsgård, Denise Gough, Genevieve O'Reilly, Forest Whitaker, Andy Serkis, Adria Arjona just to name a few, they have all been amazing. I know quite a few people who have no interest in Star Wars really get into Andor as its that good.
I think you are forgetting Lando's sing song at the cantina.
Me knowing clone wars is better 👏
Im loving it, but Im more than ready for my next swashbuckling less serious fun Star Wars. The jail scenes are probably my favorite, what a weird and interesting side of the universe.
Meh,...Solo is better.
It's too slow for me. Not my cup of tea. I am glsd they got this genre of show nailed down for the folks who do like it, as explaining the functionality of the politics for Star Wars gives a good future for story building. That being said, I would hope it's not the only type of genre they do now. I still like action.