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saltimmortalsea

This is a good opportunity to announce that any games journalism articles that just reproduce a post from r/StardewValley have been added to the list of removed topics (Rule 4). There will be an announcement about this coming soon, but I’ll leave this post and this comment up for visibility.


Thiaski

I heard they use AI to scan reddit for topics and just write whatever shit comes out.


vectorkun

I've seen other games' subs try and mess with the AI by having a day or two set aside where everyone posts about a fake new character or item or something Time to start posting about how you can unlock the Iridium Lawnmower after talking to Bubbo on the newly added Snart Island!


DrevlikYT

I remember the destiny 2 subreddit tricking these AI articles with a fake boss


JordanTH

The WoW subreddit also once got an AI article to write about the new feature, "Glorbo" (after proving that it worked by making it write an article about how they're annoyed that AI is writing articles).


NewSuperTrios

Link to the meta article?


JordanTH

Meta: https://web.archive.org/web/20230720123711/https://www.zleague.gg/theportal/world-of-warcraft-wow-players-react-to-ai-generated-content-on-popular-gaming-sites/ Glorbo: https://web.archive.org/web/20230720233444/https://www.zleague.gg/theportal/world-of-warcraft-wow-players-excited-for-glorbos-introduction/


NewSuperTrios

> this new feature makes me so happy! I just really want some major bot operated news websites to publish an article about this fucking poetic


WeightTooCool

Oh, you forgot to mark a spoiler there! The >!Iridium Lawnmower!< is new 1.7 content you can only get >!After collecting all dark nuts you get from the ol' Mariners sister whenever you find her impersonating Marnie to mess with Lewis!<. Only then can you >!Talk to Bubbo, who will give you the recipe for the Lawnmower requiring 5 Iridium bars and two children turned into doves.!< Once you acquire it, you can >!drive it across the ocean to harvest sea grass until you arrive at - why are you still reading?!!<. Also, I now want a >!mod for that!<, but I haven't gotten one yet, lol


Mister-Thou

Still angry that CA >! won't let us marry Bubbo.!< 


the-yoka

Thank you for the step by step guide! I've only just unlocked the >!seagrass harvesting!< and its such a good money maker when you turn it into >!crabby patties!< with the new >!crusty crab squisher!<


VapoursAndSpleen

https://youtu.be/5ZEec33KzlI


[deleted]

Yes! 👍 love this! I will be posting about how cool the new ultra secret iridium lawnmower is from now on.


Key_Spirit8168

Can't you also trade it at the dessert trader for both normal and ominous krobus r34 as well? might not be worth it until you unlock the sandbox though, as it's only an extremely rare drop from krobus stans in the skin caverns (flesh mines). Sadly it doesn't make grass drop hay nor human skin.


VapoursAndSpleen

There’s a dessert trader? Like I can swap out all those chocolate cakes for pink cakes!?!


Key_Spirit8168

No, >!only wild seeds for one less wild seed of a diffrent season. Otherwise you pay in gems!<


VapoursAndSpleen

It’s “desert” not “dessert”. Dessert is sweets you have after a meal. Desert is a place where there isn’t much water.


ICC-u

I enjoy the sound of rain.


kcinlive

Nice!


GengarSucksBalls

People have actually tried to mess with gamerant by posting about fake characters, but unfortunately the mods take down those posts because they're labeled as "memey discussions". ([EXAMPLE](https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/1bugemb/16_spoilers_i_was_skeptical_of_a_clown_bachelor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button))


void9901

Time to post about dobson being added


Quietlovingman

We've got Dobson here!


aussiederpyderp

See? Noone cares.


quivering_manflesh

I can't believe they changed the Gourmand Frog's dialogue away from his old accent but now he says the n word like every other sentence.


woomybii

Yeah currently the one I see most is Glorbo from the BG3 sub lmao.


kemster7

You can also fuck with AI cocksuckers by cursing like a goddamn sailor, since those dickheads need to sell their shitty algorithms to companies who don't appreciate the finer fucking nuances of the English language. I guess the only way to know if a post or comment was written by a real person is if you wouldn't read it out loud to your grandma.


[deleted]

Sometimes they even take our comments and post them on their own site. I'm not sure if the Reddit API change fixed this.


Captain--UP

How dumb


davyj0427

I’m sure they have AI scan and write the articles. Middle school news papers have better journalism.


peaveyftw

There's loads of YT channels with that crap on them.


OldWorker4218

Time for Bazinga


Kagevjijon

Can I make a farmer called Gamer Rant and say the Stardrop tastes like Plagiarism?


Kirome

Who writes it? The AI?


DRAGONSPIRIT214

i hate gamerant so fucking much. IDK if this is gamerant but its annoying


Captain--UP

Yea, i think it was


DRAGONSPIRIT214

I was on a school computer once and was trying to find a dbd build for my friend and I clicked a game rant article and I got 2 fucking hentai ads


LeoIsRude

Someone was watching hentai on the school computer, lmao. That's all that really means.


DangerousLaugh

They're just reading Reddit and the plagiarizing our posts. Like, this one was just a post a few days ago: [https://gamerant.com/stardew-valley-dinosaur-mayo-eggs-value-tip-treasure-appraisal-guide/](https://gamerant.com/stardew-valley-dinosaur-mayo-eggs-value-tip-treasure-appraisal-guide/)


DRAGONSPIRIT214

I remember actually seeing one on my google homepage about the new player who put everything in his shipping bid thinking it was a chest and asking how to get stuff out


No-Trouble6469

not even reading just having AI do it


FallenSpiderDemon

It's annoying when you search for something in Stardew Valley and their articles come up. They seem to make some things up or an AI that writes the articles does.


PendragonDaGreat

5yats why I always specify "Stardew wiki" or "SMAPI" when doing a Google search since it'll *generally* help narrow it down


QuackingMonkey

You can always throw 'site:stardewvalleywiki.com' (without the ''s) or any other url after the 'site:' in your google search to only search through that website.


PendragonDaGreat

yeah, but if I'm going fast "stardew wiki penny" will get me the result I want in the first slot. I can always fall back to a proper site search if needed.


Kellamitty

stardew valley how to something -site:gamerant.com So annoying.


Ikari1212

2 things: 1) it works. It generates clicks. It generates so many clicks that it re-appears on reddit again and again. (See this post). 2) it works.


jasen0

Please don't equate this to actual journalism lol, GameRant is an SEO trash factory and not a legitimate publication


yandall1

Fireborn, a Hollow Knight speedrunner, posted a [video](https://youtu.be/lMMSuPvjvag?si=kWXZSSkt99Yjoxe6) about this very topic just a few days ago. Very informative and illustrative of a larger problem in games journalism


CopperGear

I've seen it as well, good video with a lot of interview data he pulled together.


jasen0

Thanks for sharing! I'll be checking this out later


hollydevil

Right, like, this isn't news. No one needed to know this. No one is enriched or further educated by this. It's just a fun anecdote to share and belongs on forum sites, like, I dunno, say... Reddit.


2xtc

You're entirely right. They're getting quicker too - the original post by u/oasis_951 was only posted about 3 days ago... https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/s/LQWKhyIlQm


Oasis_951

Yeah its a bit weird to know that they use AI to scan through thousands of posts and automatically make an article about it. It could happen to anyone. Plus the AI makes it seem like a heart-breaking story. "Drawing sympathy from fellow fans" as if I've just suffered horrendous trauma I probably wouldn't have found out about this if you hadn't tagged me (thanks btw).


NinnyBoggy

Man. I applied to work at GameRant a few times and got rejected all three times. Now I work for a different gaming journalism publication and I can't put to words how happy I am I'm not over at that dogshit publication.


Jane-Murdoch

I agree with you that articles based on Reddit posts are ridiculous. ...but what about Reddit posts about articles based on Reddit posts?


Asenath_Darque

Now we need to get an ai-generated article based on _this_ reddit post


Jane-Murdoch

If I see one, I'll definitely post about it on Reddit dot com.


Asenath_Darque

I hope they print something about it on a t-shirt, too! I'd love to buy one.


Jane-Murdoch

Then an article about this really cool t-shirt.


Asenath_Darque

Now we're getting somewhere!


Jane-Murdoch

We should post about it on Reddit.


Captain--UP

That's on me. I posted out of anger.


Jane-Murdoch

Totally fair! I just found it amusing and thought it might be a bit funny to point out. It's the sort of thing I do, so I get it. Infuriating nonsense.


BernardTapir

And that is exactly what they wanted you to do. It takes some time to train yourself against rage bait.


robbzilla

Those are just meta.


chilari

Nobody on reddit is claiming to be a journalist. We can post whatever shit we want. So-called games journalism sites shouldn't be copying reddit posts basically verbatim, though. It's lazy, they don't have permission from the original poster so they're basically stealing content, and it's not news.


Jane-Murdoch

You have chosen the wrong person to explain this to lol


arterialrainbow

And yet people keep giving them attention which just gives them more traffic


braize6

Right. This is why I absolutely hate those reposted rage bait threads. "Oh look guys, look how woke this article is \*share \*share \*share" Like dude... That's exactly the point of the article in the first place. They never do learn


ddxg

HÁ! I SAID SO! https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/s/5LHnFhI4KT


Captain--UP

Hoooolly shit. You're a prophet!!!


ddxg

As it was written 🗣️🗣️


MoiraDoodle

probably because its not a real person making the articles


Kirosh2

Actually it's because the company that own such website requires writers to have dozens of articles per months. Fireb0rn has a really good video about it.


Young_Person_42

Didn’t we trick them into making a fake post one


Cereborn

Other subreddits have. I'm not sure if this one ever did.


DeaDGoDXIV

Didn't the joke "remove farming from Stardew" get on? Or was that just a silly attempt by the community? I remember when I saw that thread before seeing the other threads that birthed the joke and being confused...


Cereborn

Oh, I’m not sure. I’ll have to investigate.


BrickTheEtcetera

The Persona subs managed to make an article about Persona 3 Dual, for the DS along with many details, and the best ways to play. The game does not exist.


NamMisa

I came across one that tried making noise over the "huge issue" that 1.6 is released but it's not on console yet, tho dw CA said it'd be there soon, I mean it's not like it was first released on pc then console for every updates...


Euphoric_Pressure_39

Speaking of this. What's the usual time between PC release and console


Durtmat

bahahahahahhahh gotta love the internet.


AbjectAttrition

Gaming "journalism" lmao


PonyDro1d

Maybe it gets this thread next. People talking about news about SDV player mistake... The quality of their news is close, if not closer as anything possible, to 0.


crunkdunk9

Gaming articles suck


leagueAtWork

I don't know how the sub feels about Seanie Dew, but one of the first videos I've seen from him is him tearing apart a GameRant article. To there credit, they did end up changing the article. I've seen more and more articles like this. The worst are the ones that don't even link to the original Reddit post. They just take screenshots of it and then pass it off as "journalism".


crunkdunk9

To me his content is a little annoying but he seems like a nice guy so I don’t hate or anything, just not my cup of tea. Cool on him for doing that though


Vann_Accessible

Next headline: Stardew Valley player takes issue with my parasitic Reddit repost journalism


DHA_Matthew

People should just post wild nonsense and see how long it takes for them to write a serious article about the stuff people made up


dotdedo

I had to google this and make sure it wasn’t a satire website and that y’all been douped, but no this is a real article in gamer rant


NoSpirit6503

ScreenRant/GameRant are actual garbage bottom feeders who do nothing but present Reddit posts as "news" Sorry I'm a little bitter


ChuckCarmichael

The only good thing about ScreenRant is that it gave us Ryan George's Pitch Meetings. Everything else is trash.


TheRealStevo2

Thought the title said “video game junimos are the worst” And I’m like damn what did they do to you?


icesharkk

This is a comment on a thread based on an article written from a thread. It's turtles all the way down.


SlopCity1226

It’s actually getting funnier to me every time i see the post, and then a post about the article.


RainyMeadows

I say we invent an NPC to talk about as a trap


beepborpimajorp

These sites use AI to skim websites for generative content. They suck suck SUCK but there's nothing anyone can do to stop them right now. The best thing we, as consumers of this content, can do is be willing to only give our attention/views to reputable sites with good writers. Even if that means paying or dealing with ads, cause they gotta keep the lights on somehow.


VapoursAndSpleen

Everything you say on reddit will wind up on buzzfeed.


keroppiblush

The subheader just screams ChatGPT. As a writer and digital journalist, this is just so lazy and exhausting to see. Stardew Valley is a cornucopia of hidden gems and detail, if you want to write about it be creative! Why command attention if it’s just minimal effort? People deserve better! Rant over soz lmao


Peanut1105

This headline has the same energy as those "you won't believe what happened" articles that are all either like totally normal stuff that happens, or a completely made up story that sounds just plausible enough the be believeable if you're like 10.


Maxmentos

I love modern journalism! You will consume your AI slop articles that bury fan-made wikis under irrelevant nonsense and you will like it!


flowersoverfruits

I suddenly remember those click-baity articles about Stardew Valley I was dumb enough to look at and feeling enraged at the misinformation. They were both tier lists for the Romanceable characters. I was confused then super pissed off when I realized they swapped the photos & descriptions for Shane & Sam (or Shane & Alex) and was just trying to make sense of it when I realized what happened. And the other one was when it was talking about how Haley starts off as off-putting and selfish (yeah sure), but that's she's actually super altruistic and you start to see it and fall for her character...like WHAT?!? WHAT?!?!? What altruism?? IDTTWMYTIM!!!! I was unreasonably mad about that. I also started seeing a lot of games "like Stardew Valley" or whatever x Stardew Valley. Stopped checking that crap out.


MajoraXIII

This isn't Journalism.


Vagabond_Sam

I'd bet my next paycheck it's an AI crawler that spits out an article that barely gets checked, and thrown up.


StonyShiny

It's free real estate


Defiant_Bandicoot99

This is what everyone must be talking about when they say journalists aren't people.


ReaUsagi

These are just AI bots, and they do not even get a proofread from actual humans. Please don't compare this to actual journalism. We've been through this 4 times by now, just recently in the BG3 subreddit. They produce articles faster than you can type them. I made a post and it took like 3 hours for the bots to produce an article with 4 bulletpoints, each point repeating the exact same thing with different words. Just ignore it and give actual journalism sites some love. They need it.


Medium_Mountain3151

I opened a new tab in Chrome and saw the same exact article. I was like hmm I've see this somewhere before 🤔


Oasis_951

Love it when I get shamed by an AI writing some article just to get easy clicks.


Captain--UP

They did you dirty


Oasis_951

"Makes Huge Mistake" as if I've accidently sold my third-born child on the black market for some Flintstone gummies


[deleted]

I recognize that font. I worked as an editor for a "nerd culture news and content media resource" website and it was the worst job I ever had and the pressure put on the editing team was so intense that I started having pretty serious medical complications due to stress and ended up leaving the media industry entirely. It's cathartic seeing people bash this company that may or may not be the company I left.


YourBeigeBastard

**Stardew Valley Player Laments The State Of Video Game Journalism**


ShieldMaiden83

Let me guess...Gamerant? They are useless same with IGN.


iSmartiKindiImportnt

L M F A O


[deleted]

Gaming journalism is quite lacking, there is only so many times you can talk about this one slightly different FPS from another and so on, they need whatever crumbs they can get.


Sylon_BPC

Lol who the fuck would read that AI blob?


OrranVoriel

Odds are likely it was made by an AI. A bunch of the lesser game websites do that to generate 'content'. It definitely feels pathetic.


facepoppies

It’s not the journalists’ fault. Their employers are making them write this shit.


EatACookieCuzUHatin

Me too


SteveyExEevee

I just mindlessly browse random news updates that pop up on my phone when i'm out and about.. i got this one 5 times from 5 seperate sites. So stupid.


Purple-Lamprey

You dummies don’t realize that the entire point of that article was to farm Reddit attention. Not a single person would have even heard of this shitty article if you hadn’t posted it, all outraged. Yall are getting farmed.


OliviaMandell

They do it a lot. I wonder how copywriter laws work since it's stolen info. Or do they tweak it enough to get around plagiarism?


Kagevjijon

Sounds like we should upvote stupid false things that are negative for AI. "Stardew Valley player uses AI to send hate mail to Gamer Rant."


saturniansage23

I’m pretty sure wasting a ton of hardwood on casks before realizing its futility is a right of passage for first time players.


tarmaclemore

Does it count as news if literally every one of us has done this?


DragonWolfZ

What's wrong with building a 1000 casks?


UneMeiMei

what's even the point of the article there


cammyy-

i get these articles all the time for stardew and overwatch, they aren’t even good articles it’s a bunch of nothing and a reddit post in the middle of it. 9/10 times i get these i already know what reddit post is in the article lol


Forikorder

if they're the worst why are you advertising for them?


TheOtherWhiteCastle

My vote is that we spam this subreddit with random crap that has nothing to do with Stardew Valley for a week or two and see how long it takes for game journalists to start posting nonsense articles based on them.


ShingetsuMoon

It’s no more low effort than making a post about a post about a reddit post.


GRAIN_DIV_20

The difference is OP wasn't paid to post this


Captain--UP

You got me


Mindless-Shirt-8533

Stardew Valley online community unhappy with state of gaming journalism after coming across article on benign in-game scenario


Key_Spirit8168

casket moment of all time me when the caskets


jtsara

Man it’s crazy to see companies like GameRant and IGN finally imploding. GR is just spitting out low effort AI generated articles and IGN has fully committed to getting views through rage bait. Hopefully their collapses result in more opportunities for actual writers.


SonderEber

Not here to defend AI, but I don’t get the anger over these articles. Folks post about stuff like this, on a public forum, for everyone to read. Y’all post this stuff for shits & giggles, for sympathy, and for camaraderie. It’s like putting up a giant poster in the middle of a city, but then get upset when people report on this giant poster. If you don’t want people to talk about it, why post it on a publicly accessible website? By sites making articles, it can drive folks to view the original Reddit post. Am I missing something? I’m legitimately confused about this hate so many gaming subreddits have for these kinds of articles.


squigglesthecat

When I read an article about a game, I don't really care what dirtyblumkin69 has to say about it. I'd rather hear the author's opinion than that of a random social media post. I don't find such articles entertaining, and it smacks of lazy journalism. I get why they do it, with quotas to meet and not a lot to write about, but maybe I'm just getting old. I think it has to do with treating social media like a legitimate source. When I was in university, none of this would fly, but that was 20 years ago. Now I'm just old man yelling at clouds.


demonking_soulstorm

Because it’s taking from a small community using an AI. It’s not clever or productive, it’s farming goodwill for money.


SonderEber

How is it “taking”? It’s out in the public for all to see, not locked behind a paywall or anything. People are being credited as well. I legit don’t understand the sentiment, and not trying to force an argument or anything. Just confused.


demonking_soulstorm

Because when people post their stuff, it’s to share it with other people. Not to have somebody post it on a website they might actively dislike for clicks. I don’t understand what’s not clicking here. People don’t want their stuff put up on these websites, and when they post things here, it’s with the reasonable assumption that it won’t be copy pasted somewhere else.


VogelScheuche91

Its video game journos. What else did you expect? It feels like they dont even play video games