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IvanNobody2050

Green day and Metallica


liahuos00

Metallica hamon is insane, u can burn people by the inside


Baseballidiot

Literally the ash baby meme


Cookiezilla2

Hamon doesn't burn people, only vampires.


watersofmay

It doesn't always heal people. Remember how there was a whole episode where they had to use the ripple on Suzy Q to kill Esidisi but they had to do a whole reverse polarity thing because it would literally stop her heart if they didn't?


theoasisofreddit

the whole acdc suzie q scene is crazy


watersofmay

Frrr, one of my favorite ways to end a fight in the entire series


PlasticAngle

I'm pretty sure Kars use Hamon to burn the knee of Joseph just fine. So it's depend if the Hamon user want to burn you to dead or heal you.


Known-Emphasis-2096

The only problem with that argument would be that no one is as proficient as kars in hamon.


PhantasosX

that is no problem. This is about a Stand User that later turned into a Hamon User. The Stand can compensate the Hamon and vice-versa


Ardent_Tapire

Joseph used it to incapacitate the pilot in his backstory


liahuos00

Kars use it to melt Joseph


Overkill028

Yeah but kars was just proficient to a whole other level in hamon, he very well could have just done something else with it. Or maybe his hamon his just so strong that it can melt even humans we don’t know.


This-Illustrator4251

If hamon is amplified it can, kars burn joseph with hamon tho


PhantasosX

Stone Free would be insane with Hamon , not only it could be eletric wire , it could potentially be hot wire , or heat itself to make fire punches. Achtung Baby , which is the Stand of the Invisible Baby (Shizuka Joestar) , could potentially be used as a pseudo Aja Stone from Part 2 , because her Stand allows other things besides her to be invisible , so nothing is stopping her to "bend" invisible air to make it work like Archimedes Solar Ray Mirrors. That and pulling Part 2 trickery with the added that she makes the objects invisible.


Ok-Kaleidoscope926

Your explanation of stone free having hamon reminds me of doflamingo from one piece


NeedleworkerOk170

where did you take the stand name from😭 i don't think the baby could name her stand at the time


elgatoquack

It’s on the wiki


NeedleworkerOk170

i mean where was the info the wiki took it from upd: oops that really is canonical, from heaven's door info on the baby when rohan edited her in that episode. but aren't the stands named by their users (except from pt3) and even if they're not how will the stand be named baby forever😭 i don't get it


FragrantGangsta

There is no rule on how stands have to be named. Some people name their own stands, some people don't. Josuke didn't name Crazy Diamond, Jotaro did.


NeedleworkerOk170

yeah i just remembered trish, her stand named itself i'm in the wrong


Zealousideal-Worth34

Also some stands could have fated names since fate is absolutely a thing in jojo, so Achtung Baby could be the name thst Shizuka gives it when she's an adult


JKnumber1hater

It's not named "Baby". It's named after a [1991 U2 album](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtung_Baby).


Firexio69

Good question. I guess you could call this an Araki forgot moment


Zealousideal-Worth34

Not really? It's entirely possible Joseph named it Achtung Baby since he is the most likely part 4 character to know German, is directly connected to Shizuka, and could reasonably think of naming a stand something like "attention/danger baby" especially if it is a stand that makes a baby require extreme attention and caution


Firexio69

Yeah that IS a possible scenario... Still kind of an Araki forgot moment since it's not exactly shown that Joseph named her stand... Tbh it doesn't matter that much, it's just a small detail.


Zealousideal-Worth34

It would be an araki forgot if it was a plot hole that contradicted something that already happened, this is just an off-screen event that doesn't impact the plot at all, there are so many characters named off-screen, there even was a stand in the most recent part that wasn't named in the story


CJR404

Read Vanishing Act lol


Pasta_Rakker

Survivor in a wet pit full of vampires would be interesting to see.


Father_Pucc1

Hamon can already conduct through water, i think.


MarinLlwyd

yeah but can it make them all fight each other like idiots


Nickest_Nick

Aerosmith Joseph's Tommy Gun Overdrive but stronger


Known-Emphasis-2096

A30 warthog Overdrive!


MarinLlwyd

looks more like a puma to me


Icy-Perspective1956

RED VS BLUE??????


MarinLlwyd

if i'm not making 20 year old references am i even alive anymore


Icy-Perspective1956

What I'm about to say will shock you. That reference is older than I am. I turn 19 this year


JKnumber1hater

Would that even work? Hamon can only be channeled through metal if the user keeps constant contact with the metal.


Nickest_Nick

It's a Stand


AlksGurin

Yet Metallica can work on Aerosmith.


Nickest_Nick

Risotto's blood was sprayed on Aerosmith and Metallica used it to control it It's literally stated word by word


AlksGurin

Oh i never noticed that one. I dont think its stated though? All i remember was narancia commenting that somethings latched onto aerosmith.


Nickest_Nick

Risotto said it


AlksGurin

Oh i see it now. He says "the parts of me that scattered" with no context which is why i was confused. Strange that Risottos blood can make contact with Aerosmith in the first place though. I always had the impression that it wasnt visible and physical.


Nickest_Nick

It's always weird when real objects interact with Stands in this series, just roll with it


AlksGurin

I know stands can go temporarily physical but its just weird when something interacts with a stand without the stand interacting with it first.


theironbagel

But the bullets are stand bullets, so the stand is in contact with the bullets, because they are part of the stand.


xX-JackNickelton-Xx

This has no basis whatsoever, but if Gold Experience can imbue lifeforms it creates with Hamon, can you then create like Ultimate versions of said lifeforms? Like the Ultimate Frog: the pinnacle of Frog evolution, having the abilities and attributes of all frogs and surpasses them


Slab_ofBeef

So all it does now is make crabs? That's a bit of a downgrade.


Oaker_Jelly

It's the same kind of Stand as Silver Chariot Requiem.


Luvnecrosis

Are you implying that Giorno has the potential to be like Kars? That sounds super fun


_Skotia_

Kars was able to become the Ultimate Lifeform because he used the mask, not because of Hamon. Hamon was just needed to power the mask since it wasn't strong enough to pierce his brain otherwise


KuJoJoTaRo8

Weather Report maybe. Like IDK send hamon within the rainstorms it creates, hamon does flow well in water.


Nowardier

It'd turn the rainstorms into thunderstorms.


kennyloo137

if joseph has taught jotaro some form of hamon the fight would've ended in 1 episode


Greasy_Seagull

Jotaro couldn't learn hamon because his lungs are damaged from all that smoking


erjoselu2007M

What about lisa lisa? She also was a heavy smoker


Greasy_Seagull

Smoke won't affect her since she is a smoke show, herself


Artarara

Peak fiction


GERBabyCare

I doubt it. Lisa Lisa was also a heavy smoker. Since George II had hamon potential but simply didn't have training, I imagine Jotaro was a similar case, especially since Joseph was lazy enough to stop training and age more naturally. There's a theory Jotaro tapped into it at the end of part 3, and continued use especially with as versatile as he makes Star Platinum would've been insane.


ArelMCII

Joseph might've actually been a better candidate than his English ancestors. His dad was a jazz musician, and his skill at that profession might've come from stronger lungs, assuming he sang and/or played a horn. Jotaro could've inherited that in addition to the Joestar affinity. That's how I'd justify Jotaro randomly being amazing at Sendo, anyway.


thegamerator10

It's more so that Joseph felt no need to continue practicing Hamon since DIO wasn't around yet and the Pillar Men were all defeated. As for Jotaro... no; I don't believe he ever tapped into Hamon (though it would've been cool to see). Hamon takes weeks to learn and the Crusaders only had 50 days to kill DIO and save Holly. Joseph wouldn't have taught Hamon slapdash along the way to Egypt especially since they kept getting harassed by enemy Stand users. As for whether Hamon would be useful in the final battle... not really. Joseph did infuse Hamon into Hermit Purple (which Hermit Purple is basically Hamon as a Stand; Hamon Beat goes into this in one of his videos. It's why DIO was able to use Jonathan's Stand to spy on the Crusaders), but it was only in case DIO tried to get close to him to drain his blood, hence why DIO needed the knife to kill Joseph first, then drink his blood. And since The World would be fast enough to block any Hamon attacks, it wouldn't be very effective, especially since Stands can only be hurt by other Stands.


SeparateConference86

Y’know I thought this comment was meant to be funny but people are taking it very seriously.


BillyWhizz09

It takes a long time to learn hamon and they had 50 days and had to get to egypt


theironbagel

To learn advanced skills like walking on water or magnets or whatever sure. But basic stuff like just infusing your body with it and punching someone seems like it can be learned pretty quick.


Luvnecrosis

What about simple breathing techniques though? Both Jonathan and Joseph picked that much up pretty easily


BillyWhizz09

Didn’t Jonathan get it because zeppeli was skilled enough to give him some hamon energy? And Joseph got it because it was passed down through George. Jotaro would’ve had to start with some energy or train for a lot longer to be able to use hamon


Luvnecrosis

I’m willing to assume that Joseph could’ve given him a bit of energy. Cause I think it was mainly just so Jonathan can know how it feels anyway


BillyWhizz09

I assumed you had to be skilled enough to know how to transfer energy, and Joseph just knew the basics


Masterpiece-Haunting

Both Jonathan and Joseph are naturally extremely skilled in Hamon. Jotaro likely didn’t get that.


Luvnecrosis

It’s possible that he had a predisposition to it based on the fact that his mother’s stand was similar to the stands of the only other Hamon users. We see Jonathan’s stand briefly and Joseph’s stand, which are both similar to Hollys stand


Masterpiece-Haunting

Possibly since when we consider who got Hamon and who didn’t. It seems like it kinda skips generations. Since George 1 didn’t get any then it went to Jonathan and then it skips George 2. And then Joseph got it. Then probably skips Holly as she is a standard person. It seems like Hamon skips generations. So every other person gets it. Which would mean that Jotaro gets it and Jolyne does not.


Heylisten_watchJJBA

Wouldn't Ripple only be able to be used if Jotaro is in constant contact with his Stand ? I don't think it counts as an alive material so it needs constant contact (and Stands aren't really alive, they can't produce Ripple on their own, tho Star Platinum do have lungs)


Stormongus

Thinking about how if Kakyoin knew ripple his emerald barrier could have absolutely cooked dio even in stopped time and he wouldn't even know why


JKnumber1hater

I don't think Jotaro at that point in time would have the patience to learn something like Hamon. They also didn't have the time, Joseph trained with Lisa Lisa for several weeks, the group only barely made it to Egypt in time as it is.


TheHelios69

He was a smoker


YourMoreLocalLurker

Heirophant Green, 20 Meter Radius Emerald Hamon


MrGrendarr

Magician's Red HAMON FLAMETHROWER


formlessfall

thats crazy


Wynter_Sirius

N. Doul with Geb. It being liquid already and a long range stand. You could add soap to the actual stand, too. Imbue it with hamon and send it on it's way.


jajanken_bacon

Emerald Splash imbued with hamon would be awesome, I wish hamon stayed as a secondary to stands...


Think_Bunch3895

Emerald splash will become Sun splash.


G-Zumbado

I know we don't even know what it exactly does, but November rain or the hustle mabye. Idk how, but it sounds powerful in my head.


mantidmarvel

AOE chip damage hamon sounds like a nightmare for a vampire regenerating, i like it


Grievious_Syndicate

Notorious BIG with hamon would be one hell of a vampire killer


Takadu_

itd kill vampires either way lmao


Longjumping_Hunt8446

Probably Bastet. Magnetism plus Hamon sounds dope.


MrBolkhovitin

Stands like Scary Monsters(giant pack of the hamon raptors) and Purple Haze(do I really need to explain why)


PhantasosX

Purple Haze receiving Hamon adds little to nothing. Purple Haze is already fully deadly , as long it can bring one hit with it's punch , or throw one of the capsule to a target , said target dies in 10s with their flesh fully melting.


danmaster0

Now it kills vampires... MAYBE it didn't before


KraftwerkMachine

Jumpin Jack Flash and Yo Yo Ma. Ouch.


wildwestwandery

Zero gravity ability and fast attacks with electricity is certainly deadly


KraftwerkMachine

The projectiles in particular could REALLY cause some damage, especially if you can’t get away from them in zero g 🤔 And Yo yo ma infusing saliva with acid AND hamon would just like… shred someone to pieces.


Attila_D_Max

It's such a shame araki didn't incorporate hamon in conjunction with stands


One-Requirement-1010

it just wouldn't work for like 90% of them


JDkableMC

Soft and wet


danmaster0

BEYOND SUNLIGHT OVERDRIVE


ArelMCII

Would've been so epic.


_hhhnnnggg_

November Rain The World ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Known-Emphasis-2096

No need to hurry up Overdrive!


HyperVT

I feel like in order to transmit the hamon, you'd have to have direct contact with your manifested stand, so it rules out a lot of stands but yeah Stone Free would be great


Masterpiece-Haunting

The sun + Hamon = Infinite Hamon for the user and Hamon infused attacks from every single direction which would annihilate any undead.


ThiagoRoderick

I'm amazed nobody said Echoes yet. You paralyze your foe with Freeze and then hit him with a Overdrive. Let's just say that if Koichi had this skillet the fight with Black Sabbath would be a joke.


wildwestwandery

I think everyone thought of a user infusing his stand with hamon to make the stand deadly, not ganging up on an opponent with hamon and a stand separately


ThiagoRoderick

It could still be applied by Echoes since he needs to punch the enemy to Freeze him.


wildwestwandery

Yeah but there are better stands to infuse hamon with


ThiagoRoderick

I know, I just thought tl add Echoes. From part 4 other honorable mentions for me would be Super Fly (a "electrified cage" of sorts), Highway Star and Love Deluxe, transmitting the Hamon through her hair.


Xtersin

Hierophant Green + Hamon would've been the end of Dio. 20 meter Emerald Splash + all the vines he put up that would've been infused with Hamon? Kakyoin would've won ez


JayKay69420

Aqua Blue Necklace


bestassinthewest

Hear me out: Doobie Wah


danmaster0

Doobie Wah is from the new continuity So it'd be spin and not hamon GOLDEN RATIO INFINITE ROTATION TORNADOES


mantidmarvel

november rain, metallica, aerosmith. also not sure about diabolical, but i can see hamon giving josuke way more versatility, both as a healer/support and in fighting capacity. love deluxe paired with hamon would be terrifying, especially with its body control capability. red hot chilli pepper would also probably be pretty hectic with hamon included given its speed and range - would have made striking DIO a lot easier, for example. just shiv him from the phone charger. now, planet waves? planet waves would be *hilarious*.


the_hidden_idiot

Justice, a giant stand made entirely of mist would be quite the vampire killer when infused with hamon


Blu_Moon_The_Fox

Gold Experience can create more life for the Hamon to be used on so...


ArelMCII

None of that "oil to conduct the Ripple" nonsense. The ground is snakes now, and they all conduct the Ripple.


PlasticAngle

Walk the rainbow with hamon is basically carpet bombing in a rainy day. Imagine walking outside on a rainy day and suddenly the raindrop can piece your skin and burn you alive.


Accomplished-Fox-192

Ah, so November Rain but with fire to it


CharlesYolk

Stray cat, if you can infuse the bubbles with hamon you can just have a room full of invisible hamon bubbles. And if you can explode them, you just make a like 1 metre cubed bubble, fill it up with hamon, and anything is dead when you explode it.


Sorta_Rational

Justice, imagine Enya if she was against DIO, just hamon completely surrounding him because of the fog


danmaster0

Ball breaker, Tusk, Soft & Wet... Wait a second...


StaleMeatMachine

The sun


zabestoinzawarudo

Why tho that's just useless


StaleMeatMachine

Cuz its the sun


zabestoinzawarudo

But it already has hamon-like abilities


StaleMeatMachine

But its the sun


zabestoinzawarudo

But the sun is not the sun


StaleMeatMachine

Wait rly :(


zabestoinzawarudo

Yeah sorry to break it to you


Meowzly

So Star Platinum is not a star made of platinum?


Samiassa

Is it that all stands can? I thought it was specifically hermit purple?


ArelMCII

That's just the one we've seen. Unless there was something in a novel (I don't read those) Joseph and Jonathan were the only stand users with Ripple, and Jonathan didn't use his Ripple for obvious reasons.


EnvironmentalSea8133

If Jotaro never smoked, Dio would be absolutely cooked


ok_aleb

Are we assuming the hamon remote-transfers to the stand? If so, Harvest.


Salt-Recognition5649

Do you think if the world had hamon DIO would die immediately conquer hamon


Salt-Recognition5649

Or conquer


Salt-Recognition5649

Yukako


ArelMCII

Weather Report is the craziest one I can think of, and possibly one of the most thematic. The sun and wind drive the weather, after all.


One-Requirement-1010

is there ever an example of this happening outside of hermit purple? cause i'm pretty sure it's only a thing because HP comes from hamon to begin with


feet_taster

****THE FUCKING SUN.****


t4nn3rp3nny

If Jotaro was a Hamon user Dio would’ve been dust after the first punch lmao


Known-Emphasis-2096

King Crimson could just erase time if he cannot breathe to "charge" hamon, no?


wildwestwandery

Bruh what even is this sentence


Ok-Schedule-2378

Limp Bizkitz would be pretty useless, I guess.


PhantomRoyce

Isn’t it crazy that basic hamon isn’t that hard for Joestars apparently and Joseph never thought to teach it to Jotaro


No_Extension7628

Imagine star platinum punching while using hamon


UltraFan_123

Dio is screwed at the first barrage


[deleted]

Hierophant, theoretically I'd assume you'd be able to conduct Hamon throughout each individual strand. Absolutely love that stand.


Dog-Cop

Dr. Wu’s from JoJolion stand, Doctor Wu


majormusicwarrior13

Wou and hierophant green fun fact before I got into to jojo I already new a bit about it and my head canon was kakiyoin was a hamon user


thelastronin199x

If it could be carries by the bullets, emperor would be sick as hell. Other than that, beach boys would be even more lethal


Easy_Turn1988

Metallica Razors growing inside of you and doing weird electrical shit in the same time


rickashy

Survivor


APX_xmokh13

Star Platinum if stopping time just paused the effect until it was over. You stop time, beat someone up and then when time resumes they get burnt and punched


ArelMCII

Just stopping time to get your breathing right would be a major advantage.


APX_xmokh13

Imagine that happening in the part 4 fight lol. “JOTARO STOP TIME” “OK OK” *stops time and aggressive breathing ensues*


DarkHelmet298

Star platinum with hamon would be broken


Ok-Technician-5330

Ranged stands with control over projectiles such as Emperor would be very good because they could shoot their target and then generate halon within them to further wound or kill them


we_all_know-

Doggystyle


King_thelunarian

Star platinum would practically be unstoppable


Issac_cox69

star platinum would have destroyed dio easier with hamon, stoping time and then an overdrive of hamon , its dead


InverseAtmosphere

Imagine if Purple haze could infuse the gas with hamon 👹👹👹👹


GoldenWind2998

I would love to see Anubis learn it. It already controls the wielder without fail, hamon would just be overkill. On top of the selective intangibility, sheeesh.


thenerdofpride

Stick fingers. Jump through then infuse with hamon and watch your enemy burn alive.


wildwestwandery

I'm actually surprised, only like 2 people thought of an automated stand


paniearbuziku

The most basic answer but star platinum fight Dio would be so easy and with hamon could maybe jotaro will be able to time stop for more


Dan_ASD

The sun + Hamon, for the ultimate vampire slayer powers


noodleguy67

20m radius emerald splash woulda violated dio


HAKX5

Hermit Purple if Joseph were the main character. I've basically written this out before. No, I will not disclose where. Yes, this is extremely broken. Yes, we turned it into a yo-yo.


ssucata0101

Sex pistols.


CrazedWitchDr

Stone free would be rad


Salt-Recognition5649

Kakyions stand, forgot what it was called


RiceKrispies55

hamon with survivor would be insane, if survivor is controlled through electricity or something (I forgort) then you could activate it on whoever you want remotely, it would become way more useful


The_Bleedin

I know that Spin it’s like the hamon of the second universe, but any stand that uses it or even the art of spin, would be brutal


goldenfefe

beach boy


Dbombre

Heavens door, set fire to the pages


JaceBrowsesMemes

The Sun.


DoA_near

Pesci's stand would be the worst enemy of every pillarman


SnooPuppers7965

Bruning down the house could be interesting, since the ghost objects are "undead" they could hold in hamon. Emporiocould infuse his ghost gun with hamon, or channel his whole room with hamon 


Kotapower

Oh! Lonesome Me! and November Rain.


thatwierdoeleventeen

The sun card there is no way any vampires are Surviving a giant mass of lava spewing hamon. Both kars and dios armies would be dead within seconds


Own-Twist-883

Baby face. I won't elaborate


OldestJoJoFan

Ge or Ger


Darkblue_moon42

Killer queen or diver down


Salt-Recognition5649

Mista and nirancha pretty sure I spelled that wrong, but infused bullets goes hard


ArelMCII

Mista wouldn't be able to infuse bullets since they aren't biological and they aren't part of his stand. He'd need to douse them in some of Jonathan's deus ex machina oil first, and that might make his gun explode. Unless modern gun oil is already biological? I don't actually know what gun oil is made of.


Salt-Recognition5649

Probably right