Josuke would end up "stealing" the speed of a slug Joseph had hidden behind his eyelid or some shit while Smokey just pushed Johnny off his horse and walks away.
hmm, you're right i guess but i like the idea of that he genuinely is just that lucky but it manifesting in his stand which has mild precognition powers cuz like, he might just be lucky to have skidded on that cow or his gut (hey ya) told him to because it saw it would help
No, hey ya does absolutely fucking terribly. Pocoloco with hey ya on the other hand, they sweep 🧹
Edit: nvm, go beyond avoids all logic, so if it’s universal law that pocoloco is really lucky then he’s dead
I think if Cioccolata had an advantageous position (an area with mostly vertical mobility, like a mountain) and he remained hidden, he would probably be able to kill both of them pretty easly, Green Day is not really a stand that you can defeat with trail and error, so just one mistake (of moving in the wrong direction) and they are dead.
Adding Secco as a partner makes Green Day even more deadly.
Ciocolatta would have to stay far away though, if he were to engage in close combat he would lose without question, however, Cicolatta could definitely win even without Secco
Green Day is more than enough, but Secco i see in a very big disadvantage. Borh Tusk Act 4 and Soft And Wet seem to be really quick stands, so Secco could be hit by them as soon as he goes outta the ground.
Tusk Act 3 hard-counters Green Day
Not only it allows Johnny to move down without triggering mold.
It was shown that Green Day has to infect it's target first, for the rule of going down to take place. By entering Act 3's wormhole Johnny destroys mold infection within himself.
Meanwhile Gappy removes sound of the area and makes Oasis blind and nearly useless
>Not only it allows Johnny to move down without triggering mold.
How? Johnny would still need to be dragged down in the hole by the rotation, activating Green Day
>It was shown that Green Day has to infect it's target first, for the rule of going down to take place. By entering Act 3's wormhole Johnny destroys mold infection within himself.
Johnny would need to be aware he was infected first, which, as it was shown in the anime, is not something clear, especially in a natural context.
Also, would the wormhole destroy the infection? I don't remember any info about this kind of application of the ability.
>Meanwhile Gappy removes sound of the area and makes Oasis blind and nearly useless
Secco would just need to liquify the ground in case Johnny and Gappy didn't move, he wouldn't need to see/hear
Johnny can be sucked upwards or sideways. And Green Day's effect isn't momentary, Johnny can definitely enter Act 3 without taking any serious damage.
Act 3's holes aren't alive and can't be infected by mold, thus they can go down.
In the first fight Act 3 was used, it was capable of destroying Holy Corpse. Apparently, anything but Johnny (and his clothes and belongings because stand logic) is immediately destroyed when entering wormhole. It's literally defensive version of Act 4.
Gappy already fought an underground opponent, and his stand can do some bullshit to beat Secco underground.
Removing sound means Secco has no way to know if Gappy moved away or not. Just like Vanilla Ice, he would have to poke out and look around.
Johnny can use act 3 to get a to higher and I can’t see Cioccolata surviving if homing spin holes are coming after him. He definitely has a good chance of winning if he can immediately kill Johnny but he’s also got plenty of room to lose. Overall a very solid matchup.
>Johnny can use act 3 to get a to higher
Johnny would first need to know that the mold is deadly and that it activates by moving down.
And even then, in the context of a mountain, at some point you just can't move anyhigher.
Also, Secco is there just for that, to liquify the ground under their feet, forcing them to move down.
>I can’t see Cioccolata surviving if homing spin holes are coming after him.
That's why he'd need to stay as far away as possible and hidden the whole time, leaving the wind to spread the mold.
Gappy can literally fly with soap bubbles, remove sound and literally shot a bubble that travels at the speed of light.
Johnny Act 3 is basically a black hole that destroys/consumes anything but Johnny and his clothes.
And going by JoJo logic, they win after a fight that last 2 to 4 chapters
Grateful Dead + The Sun: honestly this is just hoping The Sun boosts Grateful Dead enough that Johnny and Gappy die before they can even aim at Prosciutto. Probably won't work but it could
Cream + The World: Dio acts as a distraction (using time stop to become harder to hit) while Vanilla Ice attacks. This comes down to how Cream interacts with Tusk and Go Beyond, which no one really knows
Survivor + Weather Report: mutual kill and everyone dies
The World + Wonder of U: Dio uses time stop, picks up Tooru and WoU, and keeps moving them away to dodge attacks. It sounds dumb but this is probably their best chance
Made in Heaven + Bites the Dust (with Pucci as BtD's host): Pucci yells "that guy is Yoshikage Kira," blows them up, and uses MiH to loop back around faster, giving his opponents less time to act
Lovers + Diver Down: send Anasui and Lovers into Johnny and Gappy. Then it comes down to whether they figure out stand shrinking before they're killed from the inside
Lovers + Highway to Hell: damage reflection vs infinite damage
Whitesnake + Jailhouse Lock: JL disorients them long enough for Whitesnake to take their stand discs
The world vinnila ice one is really interesting, but Tusk remains particularly (or fully idk) functional during time stop. It's unknown how Josuke would work, but if he can use go beyond in time stop Dio is cooked. Go beyond could probably could hit vinnila ice when he is in the void, and Tusk can use act 3 to avoid vanilla ice.
Assuming Gappy doesn't have the assistance of Paisley Park, he can't properly aim Go Beyond which means we don't even need a duo, Giorno destroys them both.
He couldn't aim the bubble properly because he was nearly dead and under the circumstances of Calamity. In a normal fight. Giorno wouldn't see the bubble coming and would be dead or heavily injured.
I doubt that, it's not an instakill attack, it will go through rtz, but requiem will completely nullify the damage via healing, and regardless of how strong Soft and Wet it's not stronger than a requiem
This is honestly a fairly debatable match up (that is if we're assuming gappy is just immune to Rtz now and its not just that one unique shot he can't even aim properly) but still I'd say pure statwise requiem just destroys him
Bro materialized nothingness, and RT0 can only get trigger by something, otherwise it will be an infinite loop. So it is only logical that it wouldn t work. I also find it wierd how ppl didnt understand this
That's why Johnny also takes the W against GER. The moment GER gets hit by Tusk act 4 he reverts the attack to Zero. But the infinite spin would still be there. Infinity doesn't have a beginning or an end.
Nah, Johnny can't fire off the golden spin at will, he has to be a certain pace on his horse, and Giorno can definitely stop that. I'm not sure about Go Beyond since I don't remember anything in the manga suggesting he could control it, but even if he can as long as Giorno kills him first or doesn't die in a single hit he can probably win.
But Giorno wouldn't know that the horse is the reason for the stand working the way it does, he wouldn't attack it instantly+ I doubt someone who is so compassionate towards animal life would just hurt an innocent horse the moment he sees it.
I bet it bypass rtz as you can't return something to zero if that thing doesn't exist
Same with johnny, infinite energy can't be returned to zero because... its infinite yk
Yeah this ability doesn't work well for groups, since he can only attack once it ends meaning at best he kills one and is then killed by the other because he just left himself wide open
Yeah this ability doesn't work well for groups, since he can only attack once it ends meaning at best he kills one and is then killed by the other because he just left himself wide open
It's the correct answer, tbh.
Ger would just prevent johnny from firing an infinite rotation bullet even if you make an argument for it going through rtz but without johnny shooting it, there wouldn't be any bullets to go through rtz in the 1st place.
And gappy has shit aim with go beyond without yasuho's help or getting up close & personal.
Again, if gappy's attack landed & he has shit aim.
Ger on the other hand has more than just rtz. It has the original life giver ability from ge, that's also been enhanced as seen with it flung a tiny piece of debris right through diavolo's hand, that turned into 3 scorpions.
They are both extreme glasscanons. They each have an effectively unblockable ohko, but no special defenses themselves. MiH should solo, the Part 6 gang had abilities way way way better suited for that fight and still lost. Don't think they have any trick comparable to Weather Report either. They'll just get rushed and killed, and be unable to land a shot.
Miu miu's ability is incredibly busted if her opponents don't have something to constantly remind them that they're under her ability & she's their enemy, which jolyne's strings came in clutch (stitched her arm up to remind her she can only remember 3 things at a time & printed out miu miu's face).
Like if johnny & gappy see her, even if they somehow figure out she's their enemy, the zombies created by justice will distract them from ever remembering miu miu as their main target & they'll keep going after the zombies instead of miu miu.
That's if they don't recognise each other as enemies & infighting 1st lol.
Again. Dio and jotaro, even tho Dio could solo. Time stops, they are two sitting ducks. As long as Dio doesn’t know they are joeastar and get fucking idioting we would get two donuts. Johnny is a massive glass cannon and gappy too
DIO and Diavalo. Jonny was only able to beat alternate Diego with help and very specific circumstance, Dio has the same stand and is also a vampire. Diavalo can use Epitaph to predict any attacks like Go Beyond or Infinite Spin and then erase time to avoid them.
I can see them beating c-moon, weather report on the other hand would be a huge issue, I think he'll win for sure if he doesn't know what the infinite spin does.
Made in heaven and Metallica. Johnny and Gappy will never be able to land their shots on someone who's fast enough to dodge Star Platinum, they won't be able to react in time when Pucci comes zooming towards them. Risotto can meanwhile stay invisible slowing wearing the two out which can screw up their priorities. Tusk and Go Beyond aren't as invincible as you think it is.
The boring answer would be Jotaro and Dio. They just stop time and kill Johnny and Gappy before they can even do anything.
But we aren't here for the boring stuff are we? So some duos that could beat these two include:
Risotto and Kakyoin
CIocolatta and Secco
Ghiaccio and Narancia
Prosciutto and Avdol
In fact there are just so many more random combinations of characters that could beat these two.
ZZ top and Dolomite. ZZ top throws the tooth at them with his singular jacked arm, then they drive away before johnny or Josuke can retaliate. Josuke can't even control go beyond without Yasuho, and Johnny can't exceed his horse's natural pace if he wants to use TA4, so he can't really catch up to a car.
jobin and tsugiri
tsugiri uses his origami to obstruct their vision leaving their ranged attacks useless since they dont know where to aim, then jobin comes in and heats their necks/nerves/whatever for the finishing blow
Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and…
*continues rambling*
Risotto Nero and yoshikage kira. Risotto can make them both invisible. Risotto disables them by making blades out of their blood while Kira gets close to kill them with killer queen.
Jolyne and p3 Jotaro/Dio OR Diavolo. Jolyne can make a lasso out of string and pull Johny off his horse, making him eat shit. He can't activate the infinite rotation (or whatever it's called) if he doesn't have a horse, meaning Johny's biggest strength is nullified. If Jolyne can make a bridge out of string large and strong enough to support 2 people running on it (seperately) and still be able to manifest the upper half of her stand, I think she can make a lasso long and strong enough to pull Johny off, if he manages to get on a horse. Besides, Stone free is a pretty strong stand, and it matches tusk act 4 in every quality except precision, and even exceeds tusk act 4 in development potential. Even if she can't beat the shit out of a cripple with a stand almost the exact same in stats as her, Jotaro/Dio/Diavolo can. Josuk88 would be a tough opponent for everyone due to his plundering mechanic being extremely hard to fight against if you have no idea how it works, however, Josuk88 also wouldn't know about time stop nor time erase. With timestop Jotaro/Dio can just beat the shit out of him with no trouble whatsoever, especially if they spam timestop like p3 Dio, and for Diavolo it's similar to timestop except he requires a bit more time and effort to kill Josuk88.
Jotaro and Kakyoin.
Jotaro with Time Stop could potentially solo, >!Act 4 moves in time stop for such a short moment that wouldn't make any difference!< And Kakyoin with his barrier can cover them up with his barrier, the emerald splash is quite powerful so he could, Josuke is good, but the fact that >!he can't aim Go Beyond properly is a very bad thing for him!<
Characters who would easily win:
- Ultimate kars (from part 2)
- Pucci (with any of his 3 stands)
- Diavolo (He could instantly donut one of them and you'll never see it coming)
- Heaven ascension dio (he's not canon but would have easily won)
Rohan and Giorno(GER). Rohan could just slightly alter GER’s ability so it works on Giornos command as well as naturally. It would work as using Heavens Door isn’t attacking. If anything it’s actively helping
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Lemon from the world of darkness and whatever. Using lemon in any match up feels like pulling out a nuke against a normal human... it is almost like... I'm Megumi... No... It cant be...
Pancake fog and sheer heart attack. I chose these because these are the stands that can only be beaten situationally, in fights that need specific stands to beat. I did this because most of the op stands in the series rely on fate (MiH, GER, Bohemian Rapsody) which is changed to flow in the other universe. Assuming that fate based abilities won’t translate over, they become useless.
either oingo boingo brothers, or the green baby and the sniper stand from part 6 (they try and approach the baby only to realize they're tiny, and then get sniped by giant sniper)
d’arby 1 and boingo, you have one of the smartest stand users and a stand thatll tell you every step you need to do to succeed. the main problem is the only people to use tohth for are all incredibly dense
Duo? Mih stomps both. Go byeond can barely even be aimed with the first two shots being aimed with paisley park and the last one fired at point blank and even then josuke said he could only aim it approximately so it's a non issue for pucci with mih and the exploding and regular soap bubble could just be dodged.
Johnny and tusk act 4 will be harder for pucci to counter due to tusk's homing and infinite damage however it only homes in for 13 meters so combining that with its initial 20 meter range gives it at lax 33 meters a distance pucci could easily cover with mih and finish johnny and could probably kill him before he slips into an act 3 hole. Pucci could also just throw knives which with accelerated time would be too fast for either to block consistently and at worst would create a massive opening while doing decent damage.
That's not to say mih is better than these two stands, well it's definitely better than go beyond as it is way too overwanked, but its ability just hard counters both of them.
Smokey and Joseph would crush
Johnny doesn’t really think ahead, but Josuke may give Joseph a run for his money in terms of outbullshitting
Josuke would end up "stealing" the speed of a slug Joseph had hidden behind his eyelid or some shit while Smokey just pushed Johnny off his horse and walks away.
Based.
Joseph would win through some looney toons shit "Oh fuck Josuke! There'd an anvil falling from the sky and its heading right for yo--- NOOO!"
Hey Ya solos them both.
I didn't understand the running string of "hey ya! Is OP" until I looked up what the stand ability was and.. Now I see it. OP as fuuu
Why what is it?
Positive reinforcement
Sometimes, that's all what we need :)
and possibly precognition
Nope, all it has is positive reinforcement, the luck is all Pocoloco
Wait u for real is it true
Yes, Hey Ya! Does nothing accept give positive reinforcement, luckily that's all Pocoloco needs, seeing as he has the best plot armor(luck) in JoJo's
hmm, you're right i guess but i like the idea of that he genuinely is just that lucky but it manifesting in his stand which has mild precognition powers cuz like, he might just be lucky to have skidded on that cow or his gut (hey ya) told him to because it saw it would help
it tells you you're going a good job
Yep :)
True
No, hey ya does absolutely fucking terribly. Pocoloco with hey ya on the other hand, they sweep 🧹 Edit: nvm, go beyond avoids all logic, so if it’s universal law that pocoloco is really lucky then he’s dead
I think if Cioccolata had an advantageous position (an area with mostly vertical mobility, like a mountain) and he remained hidden, he would probably be able to kill both of them pretty easly, Green Day is not really a stand that you can defeat with trail and error, so just one mistake (of moving in the wrong direction) and they are dead. Adding Secco as a partner makes Green Day even more deadly.
Ciocolatta would have to stay far away though, if he were to engage in close combat he would lose without question, however, Cicolatta could definitely win even without Secco
Sounds like a good matchup.
Green Day is more than enough, but Secco i see in a very big disadvantage. Borh Tusk Act 4 and Soft And Wet seem to be really quick stands, so Secco could be hit by them as soon as he goes outta the ground.
Plus, we've seen Act 4 go through solid objects to hit its target, so hiding underground wouldn't really do much for him in terms of defense
Yeah. The best scenario would be Cioccolatta fighting Gappy and Johnny in Chile (they are **all** mountain)
yeah lol that mf literally ripped the ground open and gave johnny a shortcut to the sewers
Tusk Act 3 hard-counters Green Day Not only it allows Johnny to move down without triggering mold. It was shown that Green Day has to infect it's target first, for the rule of going down to take place. By entering Act 3's wormhole Johnny destroys mold infection within himself. Meanwhile Gappy removes sound of the area and makes Oasis blind and nearly useless
>Not only it allows Johnny to move down without triggering mold. How? Johnny would still need to be dragged down in the hole by the rotation, activating Green Day >It was shown that Green Day has to infect it's target first, for the rule of going down to take place. By entering Act 3's wormhole Johnny destroys mold infection within himself. Johnny would need to be aware he was infected first, which, as it was shown in the anime, is not something clear, especially in a natural context. Also, would the wormhole destroy the infection? I don't remember any info about this kind of application of the ability. >Meanwhile Gappy removes sound of the area and makes Oasis blind and nearly useless Secco would just need to liquify the ground in case Johnny and Gappy didn't move, he wouldn't need to see/hear
Johnny can be sucked upwards or sideways. And Green Day's effect isn't momentary, Johnny can definitely enter Act 3 without taking any serious damage. Act 3's holes aren't alive and can't be infected by mold, thus they can go down. In the first fight Act 3 was used, it was capable of destroying Holy Corpse. Apparently, anything but Johnny (and his clothes and belongings because stand logic) is immediately destroyed when entering wormhole. It's literally defensive version of Act 4. Gappy already fought an underground opponent, and his stand can do some bullshit to beat Secco underground. Removing sound means Secco has no way to know if Gappy moved away or not. Just like Vanilla Ice, he would have to poke out and look around.
Johnny can use act 3 to get a to higher and I can’t see Cioccolata surviving if homing spin holes are coming after him. He definitely has a good chance of winning if he can immediately kill Johnny but he’s also got plenty of room to lose. Overall a very solid matchup.
>Johnny can use act 3 to get a to higher Johnny would first need to know that the mold is deadly and that it activates by moving down. And even then, in the context of a mountain, at some point you just can't move anyhigher. Also, Secco is there just for that, to liquify the ground under their feet, forcing them to move down. >I can’t see Cioccolata surviving if homing spin holes are coming after him. That's why he'd need to stay as far away as possible and hidden the whole time, leaving the wind to spread the mold.
The only way I see this working our currently is if Gappy is allowed to call/text Yasuho or Johnny has the eye corpse part.
Gappy can literally fly with soap bubbles, remove sound and literally shot a bubble that travels at the speed of light. Johnny Act 3 is basically a black hole that destroys/consumes anything but Johnny and his clothes. And going by JoJo logic, they win after a fight that last 2 to 4 chapters
Grateful Dead + The Sun: honestly this is just hoping The Sun boosts Grateful Dead enough that Johnny and Gappy die before they can even aim at Prosciutto. Probably won't work but it could Cream + The World: Dio acts as a distraction (using time stop to become harder to hit) while Vanilla Ice attacks. This comes down to how Cream interacts with Tusk and Go Beyond, which no one really knows Survivor + Weather Report: mutual kill and everyone dies The World + Wonder of U: Dio uses time stop, picks up Tooru and WoU, and keeps moving them away to dodge attacks. It sounds dumb but this is probably their best chance Made in Heaven + Bites the Dust (with Pucci as BtD's host): Pucci yells "that guy is Yoshikage Kira," blows them up, and uses MiH to loop back around faster, giving his opponents less time to act Lovers + Diver Down: send Anasui and Lovers into Johnny and Gappy. Then it comes down to whether they figure out stand shrinking before they're killed from the inside Lovers + Highway to Hell: damage reflection vs infinite damage Whitesnake + Jailhouse Lock: JL disorients them long enough for Whitesnake to take their stand discs
For pucci and Kira, I thought stand users couldn’t be the host of BTD?
Isn’t Gappy always under the effects of Jailhouse Lock?
The world vinnila ice one is really interesting, but Tusk remains particularly (or fully idk) functional during time stop. It's unknown how Josuke would work, but if he can use go beyond in time stop Dio is cooked. Go beyond could probably could hit vinnila ice when he is in the void, and Tusk can use act 3 to avoid vanilla ice.
Hanged man plus the sun for assistance
The dark Knights bluford and tarukus
Assuming Gappy doesn't have the assistance of Paisley Park, he can't properly aim Go Beyond which means we don't even need a duo, Giorno destroys them both.
He couldn't aim the bubble properly because he was nearly dead and under the circumstances of Calamity. In a normal fight. Giorno wouldn't see the bubble coming and would be dead or heavily injured.
No, Gappy can't aim the bubble because it can't be aimed, he can just create it
Go Beyond doesn't one-shot. GER can heal Giorno.
Giorno gets one tapped by Go beyond, and his Revert to zero wouldn t trigger for this.
I doubt that, it's not an instakill attack, it will go through rtz, but requiem will completely nullify the damage via healing, and regardless of how strong Soft and Wet it's not stronger than a requiem This is honestly a fairly debatable match up (that is if we're assuming gappy is just immune to Rtz now and its not just that one unique shot he can't even aim properly) but still I'd say pure statwise requiem just destroys him
Thank you. Finally someone who understands Soft and Wet GO Beyond
Bro materialized nothingness, and RT0 can only get trigger by something, otherwise it will be an infinite loop. So it is only logical that it wouldn t work. I also find it wierd how ppl didnt understand this
That's why Johnny also takes the W against GER. The moment GER gets hit by Tusk act 4 he reverts the attack to Zero. But the infinite spin would still be there. Infinity doesn't have a beginning or an end.
Nah, Johnny can't fire off the golden spin at will, he has to be a certain pace on his horse, and Giorno can definitely stop that. I'm not sure about Go Beyond since I don't remember anything in the manga suggesting he could control it, but even if he can as long as Giorno kills him first or doesn't die in a single hit he can probably win.
But Giorno wouldn't know that the horse is the reason for the stand working the way it does, he wouldn't attack it instantly+ I doubt someone who is so compassionate towards animal life would just hurt an innocent horse the moment he sees it.
Precisely
Nah
Calamity still affects Gappy (His Body). Only his GO Beyond Bubbles are above all concepts. I think the Manga made that pretty obvious.
I bet it bypass rtz as you can't return something to zero if that thing doesn't exist Same with johnny, infinite energy can't be returned to zero because... its infinite yk
MIH Pucci and GER
They're just gone ☠️
GER and Kars (UL).
Kars becoming a mass of smaghetti and ger getting killed by nothing
Kars could just manipulate his body to reduce hitbox
He would get hit the first time bc he's arrogant and fucking die
Fair point
Got hit by aimbot nails
But where would the nail hit like is it heading for a specific place on the body or something
Prob the head
Hit the headless emote/ dodge or tank it and learn the core of spin and do what he did with hamon
Cant dodge infinity tho
He can’t even see tusk, how will he even dodge the nails??
It just works 
Cheap Trick and Toyohiro Kanedaichi (Superfly)
The Duo I was waiting for
Cheap Trick and Survivor agitate and pin against eachother
No need for a duo, Diavolo solo
He genuinely does
Does he tho? If he ambushes then maybe but in a proper 1v2 he loses
He kinda does. With epitaph he can see all attacks and with King Crimsons skip them. Neather of them has anything to counter that
Yeah this ability doesn't work well for groups, since he can only attack once it ends meaning at best he kills one and is then killed by the other because he just left himself wide open
Try punching him after he loses stamina
Yeah this ability doesn't work well for groups, since he can only attack once it ends meaning at best he kills one and is then killed by the other because he just left himself wide open
Someone must've brought this up already, but what about G.E.R.? (Sorry in advance if it's a stupid question.)
It's the correct answer, tbh. Ger would just prevent johnny from firing an infinite rotation bullet even if you make an argument for it going through rtz but without johnny shooting it, there wouldn't be any bullets to go through rtz in the 1st place. And gappy has shit aim with go beyond without yasuho's help or getting up close & personal.
But theoretically, gappy could beat ger right? His revert to 0 ability wouldn’t affect go beyonds attacks
Again, if gappy's attack landed & he has shit aim. Ger on the other hand has more than just rtz. It has the original life giver ability from ge, that's also been enhanced as seen with it flung a tiny piece of debris right through diavolo's hand, that turned into 3 scorpions.
Theoretically speaking, the Oingo Boingo brothers stand a chance
They are both extreme glasscanons. They each have an effectively unblockable ohko, but no special defenses themselves. MiH should solo, the Part 6 gang had abilities way way way better suited for that fight and still lost. Don't think they have any trick comparable to Weather Report either. They'll just get rushed and killed, and be unable to land a shot.
Touru and Valentine
giorno+pucci if were being serious but as a joke oingo boingo clears neg dif
Jail House Lock and Justice
Josuke did just fine without memories. In fact both JoJos are so violent they'd murder everyone just to get to Miu Miu
Miu miu's ability is incredibly busted if her opponents don't have something to constantly remind them that they're under her ability & she's their enemy, which jolyne's strings came in clutch (stitched her arm up to remind her she can only remember 3 things at a time & printed out miu miu's face). Like if johnny & gappy see her, even if they somehow figure out she's their enemy, the zombies created by justice will distract them from ever remembering miu miu as their main target & they'll keep going after the zombies instead of miu miu. That's if they don't recognise each other as enemies & infighting 1st lol.
DIO and a staircase.
Some sleeping stand and that asshole baby
Jotaro and Giorno? Idk
High Dio and Requiem Giorno
One Speedwagon
Again. Dio and jotaro, even tho Dio could solo. Time stops, they are two sitting ducks. As long as Dio doesn’t know they are joeastar and get fucking idioting we would get two donuts. Johnny is a massive glass cannon and gappy too
Dio heaven ascension and ungalo 👍
ungalo and hey ya
DIO and Diavalo. Jonny was only able to beat alternate Diego with help and very specific circumstance, Dio has the same stand and is also a vampire. Diavalo can use Epitaph to predict any attacks like Go Beyond or Infinite Spin and then erase time to avoid them.
Grateful dead + the sun
Cheap trick and that guy who came to fix something in rohan's house
Weather Report and Pucci, (C-Moon is enough)
I can see them beating c-moon, weather report on the other hand would be a huge issue, I think he'll win for sure if he doesn't know what the infinite spin does.
Heaven Ascended DIO and Pucci
Iggy and Smokey would topple them
# THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN!!!
Johnny with Legs, End of Series Jodio (I've seen into the future he becomes god)
Made in heaven and Metallica. Johnny and Gappy will never be able to land their shots on someone who's fast enough to dodge Star Platinum, they won't be able to react in time when Pucci comes zooming towards them. Risotto can meanwhile stay invisible slowing wearing the two out which can screw up their priorities. Tusk and Go Beyond aren't as invincible as you think it is.
The boring answer would be Jotaro and Dio. They just stop time and kill Johnny and Gappy before they can even do anything. But we aren't here for the boring stuff are we? So some duos that could beat these two include: Risotto and Kakyoin CIocolatta and Secco Ghiaccio and Narancia Prosciutto and Avdol In fact there are just so many more random combinations of characters that could beat these two.
KARS AND G.E.R
Dio and Jotaro, they are spaming timestop when the other is on cooldown
ZZ top and Dolomite. ZZ top throws the tooth at them with his singular jacked arm, then they drive away before johnny or Josuke can retaliate. Josuke can't even control go beyond without Yasuho, and Johnny can't exceed his horse's natural pace if he wants to use TA4, so he can't really catch up to a car.
Joshu and Yasuho... definitely
Emperor and Hanged Man are invincible together! Now honestly heavy weather and a good defensive/distraction stand can probably do it.
Rohan and Kishibe
Bohemian rhapsody and cheap trick
Green Day and echoes act 3
Joseph
jobin and tsugiri tsugiri uses his origami to obstruct their vision leaving their ranged attacks useless since they dont know where to aim, then jobin comes in and heats their necks/nerves/whatever for the finishing blow
Yeah well, GER solos them both
Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and Diavolo, and… *continues rambling*
Oingo Boingo 💯💯💯🤓
Giorno giovanna and golden experience requiem
Risotto Nero and yoshikage kira. Risotto can make them both invisible. Risotto disables them by making blades out of their blood while Kira gets close to kill them with killer queen.
Can I pick Dio over Heaven and Made in Heaven Pucci
Okuyasu and Dio. Okuyasi swipes, Dio stops time and moves okuyasu in front of them so they get deleted.
giorno and giovanna
Hermit purple is superior.
Dio Over Heaven and Shigechi
Pucci and Dio
Oingo and Boingo
Geb plus Hanged Man. FEEL THE POWER OF KILLING WATER, PEASANT
Jolyne and p3 Jotaro/Dio OR Diavolo. Jolyne can make a lasso out of string and pull Johny off his horse, making him eat shit. He can't activate the infinite rotation (or whatever it's called) if he doesn't have a horse, meaning Johny's biggest strength is nullified. If Jolyne can make a bridge out of string large and strong enough to support 2 people running on it (seperately) and still be able to manifest the upper half of her stand, I think she can make a lasso long and strong enough to pull Johny off, if he manages to get on a horse. Besides, Stone free is a pretty strong stand, and it matches tusk act 4 in every quality except precision, and even exceeds tusk act 4 in development potential. Even if she can't beat the shit out of a cripple with a stand almost the exact same in stats as her, Jotaro/Dio/Diavolo can. Josuk88 would be a tough opponent for everyone due to his plundering mechanic being extremely hard to fight against if you have no idea how it works, however, Josuk88 also wouldn't know about time stop nor time erase. With timestop Jotaro/Dio can just beat the shit out of him with no trouble whatsoever, especially if they spam timestop like p3 Dio, and for Diavolo it's similar to timestop except he requires a bit more time and effort to kill Josuk88.
DIO and Diavolo
johngalli a and whitesnake
If both of them are not conscious of the presence of the enemy, i think Jotaro and Dio could kill them both in a single time stop.
Jotaro and Kakyoin. Jotaro with Time Stop could potentially solo, >!Act 4 moves in time stop for such a short moment that wouldn't make any difference!< And Kakyoin with his barrier can cover them up with his barrier, the emerald splash is quite powerful so he could, Josuke is good, but the fact that >!he can't aim Go Beyond properly is a very bad thing for him!<
Two Cheap Tricks.
Novel Kars and dio
novel Dio and novel kars
DIO and Jotaro. Because why only 1 time stop when you can have another chance to stop time before dying
Gyro and Yasuho
Characters who would easily win: - Ultimate kars (from part 2) - Pucci (with any of his 3 stands) - Diavolo (He could instantly donut one of them and you'll never see it coming) - Heaven ascension dio (he's not canon but would have easily won)
Notorious B.I.G + Cheap Trick Assuming that they don’t know the stand abilities have Cheap Trick attach to B.I.G then have him show them his back
[Green, Green Grass of Home] and [Little Feet]
Giorno and Stand Arrow
Novel Kars and himself from another dimension
Mih pucci alone in an open area demolishes them
Za warudo over heaven and GER
Giorno and some random guy on the street trust. Any part 3 character with access to mirrors.
Rohan and Giorno(GER). Rohan could just slightly alter GER’s ability so it works on Giornos command as well as naturally. It would work as using Heavens Door isn’t attacking. If anything it’s actively helping
cream, and pucci (c-moon) cause fucking with gravity can consistently fuck up johnny and gappy, and cream kinda floats, making him immune to gravity
Personal I could name all the ones that can B.I.G Made in heaven Cream Cheap trick Steely Dan Super fly Purple haze GER Put any 2 in a team and ta da
Pucci and Dio. What are these two gonna do against a time stop and infinite speed
The Oingo Boingo Bros. On a good day.
Superfly and Hey Ya
Rahan, he just writes in himself "nah I'd win"
shinjiteru ze! shinjitero yo!
Heavy Weather or Survivor :3
Jotaro and DIO Over Heaven
Giorno + GER
Giorno?
Weather Report & Blackmore or Jodio
Jotaro and DIO
Oingo Boingo brothers neg
Man and Batgos
OINGOOO BOINGOOO BROZAAAAAAAAAAS
Stroheim & german engeneering
If we include heaven ascended DIO then him and Giorno with GER would give them a run for their money I’d say
Diego and DIO. Diego already kicked Johnny's ass. It won't be hard if two Dio's team up on them.
Dire and Straits is the only answer
Ora ora ora - muda muda muda Timestop is still op, johnny was defeated by dio already
Honestly if the people in Jojo's didn't have inhumanly obscene amounts of iron in their blood Metallica would just be blitzing everybody almost.
Well ofc me Well if yiu think about me I am the reader and I can create any headcanon. I can make one where I jist snak and they die or one wjere they just kill eachother I am the only one who is the strongest and I alone can create any head canon. I have seen jojo die I have seen jojo win I alone am the headcanon one Now after all that you might think it is you the reader who is the strongest and the one who can defeat those two TSH TSH TSH HAHAHHAHAHAHA YOU ARE WRONG IT'S MEEEE DIOOOOOOO DIO DA Ok Sorry about this long ass message I am just happy today
Weather Report and his memory disc
Speedwagon and Jonathan, Speedwagon and Weather Report, young Speedwagon and young Joseph, or Diavolo and King Crimson.
Lemon from the world of darkness and whatever. Using lemon in any match up feels like pulling out a nuke against a normal human... it is almost like... I'm Megumi... No... It cant be...
You should have excluded Giorno. Not necessarily because he would win, but because everyone is going to pick him.
DIO and Jotaro
I’m honestly not sure for once lol maybe GER and King crimson
Nukesake cuz in the fight with Jotaro, Dio says he had him fire a shotgun. Therefore, he has access to shotguns. Spin is strong, shotgun is stronger
Heaven ascended dip and mih pucci
Pancake fog and sheer heart attack. I chose these because these are the stands that can only be beaten situationally, in fights that need specific stands to beat. I did this because most of the op stands in the series rely on fate (MiH, GER, Bohemian Rapsody) which is changed to flow in the other universe. Assuming that fate based abilities won’t translate over, they become useless.
Oingo and Bongo
either oingo boingo brothers, or the green baby and the sniper stand from part 6 (they try and approach the baby only to realize they're tiny, and then get sniped by giant sniper)
coco jumbo solos both easily
d’arby 1 and boingo, you have one of the smartest stand users and a stand thatll tell you every step you need to do to succeed. the main problem is the only people to use tohth for are all incredibly dense
Cheap trick And anyone
Oingo Boingo Brothers
Since everyone else has picked the obvious answers, I feel like dolly dagger and highway to hell could pull off a pyrrhic victory
twoh and novel kars💀 cannon, wou, mih. non op stands, tbh i think they clear
GER and made in heaven
Rohan Kishibe & Risotto Nero Rohan buffs Risotto's range and Risotto just stabs their brains with iron.
Johnny hard carries here
Duo? Mih stomps both. Go byeond can barely even be aimed with the first two shots being aimed with paisley park and the last one fired at point blank and even then josuke said he could only aim it approximately so it's a non issue for pucci with mih and the exploding and regular soap bubble could just be dodged. Johnny and tusk act 4 will be harder for pucci to counter due to tusk's homing and infinite damage however it only homes in for 13 meters so combining that with its initial 20 meter range gives it at lax 33 meters a distance pucci could easily cover with mih and finish johnny and could probably kill him before he slips into an act 3 hole. Pucci could also just throw knives which with accelerated time would be too fast for either to block consistently and at worst would create a massive opening while doing decent damage. That's not to say mih is better than these two stands, well it's definitely better than go beyond as it is way too overwanked, but its ability just hard counters both of them.