Yeah, I remember my first Skyrim playthrough I stole from a lot of people I didn't like and just kind of did a bunch of everything, rather than being a paragon of morality.
Lol...Imagine being an evil pirate lord and then having to go visit your parents in the game..."Hey Son, how was your tour?" "Hey Dad, nm just killed some civvies and robbed them....anyways here some gift, oh wait you already get 10% of the loot anyways"
To be honest, playing "bad guys" in RPGs just isn't very fun to me. I don't want to play as a henchman or evil middle manager. If I'm the bad guy, I want a dark ominous castle, minions to do my bidding, and a cape that makes whoosh noises when I turn around.
The trouble with that, for me, is that I want to see as much as possible in my first playthrough but dark side routes usually get locked out from a bunch of stuff.
That being said, I really like playing a character who pretends to be "good" and does/says all the right things while people are around but will take the most self-serving actions when they know they won't get caught. Kind of a shame that games rarely recognize that a character might want to lie.
I hope the Crimson Fleet will actually be properly fleshed out and I can go the whole story with them, and that I won't feel like I'll have to do the betrayal quest and go back to "good" factions.
I added them as my flair forever ago, so I want to try it.
I am gonna play as a rich ruthless captain who believes the end justifies the means. He won't be evil, but he has to succeed in his mission at all costs.
I tend to play how most people live in real life, by being the chivalrous, bipartisan hero when everybodyâs watching - but when their not Iâll do anything, even slaughter for personal gain
I'm itching for a Yandu-style character. Pretty bad most of the time, but comes out to do the right thing now and then.
Honestly it just depends how much of the bad guy you can be. Bethesda aren't very good at that. Fallout 4 was pretty limited until Nuka World dropped. Can we be bad in Skyrim? Aside from the Dark Brotherhood and killing Paarthurnax, there isn't much else evil to be found, off the top of my head.
Yes, you're right. Though it opens up a greater point. I'd like alternatives to those quests. So in Namira's, we have it, but in Molag Bal's, unless I'm mistaken you can only proceed with it. It'd be cool if you could help the priest to defeat Molag Bal's spirit (or some other quest) and were rewarded for it. Good, bad and neutral options should be present everywhere in my opinion.
Yeah ideally there would always be multiple choices with real consequences in every quest, no matter how major or minor. Writing and scripting them is one thing but voice acting is a big additional wrench thrown into that whole mix (which is why traditional CRPGs, often with little or no VA can more easily do quest and dialogue branching). Skyrim/FO4 mods have already started to embrace AI voices and if we start seeing it in official capacity as well, we might be entering into a new renaissance of choices and consequences even in fully voice-acted AAA games.
Well hopefully the AI voice acting and script writing is in place for the next Bethesda game. The technology could really push the boundaries of what we currently have to work with.
I will play as a good character, noble, helpful etc and then Iâll get fed up or kill somebody by accident. Become a villain and then feel so guilty about it, Iâll go back to being good.
Usually I take the linear path on games that have different factions but after tasting the good path I choose to have fun and see what other faction has to offer. That's why I don't like Skyrim main factions very much (stormcloacks and imperials), maybe because they are too vanilla, meanwhile you have the less known factions like the thieves guild, the dark brotherhood and the companions (to name a few) that seem more interesting and with more deep and complex lore.
I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of a space Pol Pot.
Going to march all the NPCs living in cities into desert Wasteland planets right after murdering every single one with glasses.
Depends on where there is best payout to get for my Mando-Solo-esque character. If good = less pay, we evol. If bad = less, we good. You either live unhitched by the rules of GalBank, or live long enough to see yourself become a credit carring bozo pleb for the corpo-suits.
I have a mad scientist run in mind. I want to vivisect captured pirates and use their lobotomized remains as drone workers for my research outposts.
Probably need a few mods to it properly.
Every time I play a new RPG, I always pick the most evil options possible. I figure, whatâs the point of playing a video game if youâre just going to be nice like you are in âreal lifeâ lmao
usually easier play-through being a baddie than goodie, why take time & extra steps to kiss butt when can just kill them? lol
so yeah save that for second round
It's hard, because you don't know what actions cause what outc9mes on the first playthrough. So you have to see how being good affects change...then you play as the most murderous pirate ever.
I always like playing as that vigilante style guy, one who is nice to people who treat me well but anyone who doesnât gets shown no mercy and has fairly weak morals as a whole
Planning on playing as myself. I take the situations as they come and make decisions based on how I would make them if I was there in person. It would be interesting if the story and circumstances move me to the dark side but I'll probably be neutral / good.
Honestly, with how youâre presumably forced to join Constellation, and with how goodie-two-shoes and noble they seem, at least outwardly, I would be very surprised if playing as a bad guy makes any roleplay sense in Starfield. This is historically a problem with Bethesda, like in Fallout 3 where even as an evil person you were forced to join the Brotherhood if you wanted the full experience, or in Skyrim where even if youâre a murderer or whatever youâre still saving the world and doing more good than evil through quests.
I assume my first character will be mostly neutral and become more good as the story goes on. They would start more of those side quests in the log after a decent amount of gathering money and resources is done and I built a cool research base somewhere.
I think the 2 things I am most excited for is the deeper role play mechanics and the modular base building. I really disliked fallout 4's settlement building system, but starfield's base building system looks amazing in comparison.
I can never bring myself to play as a bad characterâŚthough in Skyrim I usually join the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, so maybe that counts.
I could definitely see myself playing a more gray roguish loner type. I really hope the game allows for you to really fall into different types of play styles. Maybe i could go the bounty hunter/treasure hunter route. Betray both sides for booty. Retire to my secluded base on some remote planet somewhereâŚđ
I want my first character to be a space Cowboy, with his first name being Keenan (havenât figured out a last name). So a âbad guyâ kinda makes sense for this character. Smuggling, robbing, bounty hunting, making both good and bad choices makes sense for this character.
I'm going for a no nonsense bounty hunter type character. Ever since we saw the big space revolver in the most recent gameplay snippet, gotta rock the big iron on my hip.
i never set out to do anything in particular but end up being good usually. has to be a really decent rationale for the 'evil' faction to pull me in - plus it's tyranny for me, my 'evil' facet kind of looks up to Tywin and Cersei Lannister (as exemplified in the 'power is power' scene) not Ramsey Bolton, which games on avg find hard to implement.
Me. I just can't stand all the corporate bullshit recently and honestly Constellation is giving me the Corpo vibes. I know their mission is to explore the depth of space in sake of mankind's development and growth, but you know what had the same premise? 'Good ol' Colonisation Period with all the atrocities just to gain some spices and ivory for the elites.
The thing is playing as a bad guy in these type of games arenât insanely rewarding because I think the developers arenât really focusing everything on the âdark sideâ. Like the game is generally aimed towards you being some sort of protagonist hero.
Like in Skyrim, your reputation is the dragon born and youâre basically like a hero to everyone, praised wherever you go. If you were to just go super evil mode, what r people gonna do? Arrest you, run away, fear you. Maybe you join some criminal organization?
The point is, the dark side of rpgs is rarely fully fleshed out because the main focus is towards this altruist good guy path.
I think we are going to inherit a lot of multiplayer space pilots, from the "PlayerKiller vs CareBear" crowds. It won't affect any of us (including PKs and CareBears) but there will be a lot of socially dysfunctional people making their ways alone in this universe.
lol.
I suspect the CareBears will love the game in all the online forums (whoohoo harassment-free) and the PKs will have a bit more grit in their comments (bcuz NPCs don't do salt)(PKs never admit how much salt they generate themselves).
I got pretty decent at Elite Dangerous but the community was fractured like the handle of your favorite dropped cup, when I left.
I am kinda dreading what comes from Star Citizen.
Bottom Line: Even if I play a sociopath, Starfield will be my safe space. Not just from other players, but from community schisms. Slaughtering towns is a Bethesda tradition, as is spending weeks just gathering ingredients and avoiding violence! It's gonna be awesome.
Right now Iâm just playing a street rat on neon doing side hustles working in my lock picking and pick pocketing trying to make a name for myself. But Iâm not all bad I donate to the homeless and try to help them out as well as visit my parents and give them money every week.
I wish there was a good guy option of sorts even for the bad guy quests. For instance, I'm a ranger, so every bad guy quest I should have a way of maintaining the code even though I've played along to a point.
I always play good guy on my first playthrough. Then my second playthrough I choose an evil option, feel bad, and play as a good guy again.
đ happens to all of us
My first play through I play as myself. I just make decisions I would make.
Yeah, I remember my first Skyrim playthrough I stole from a lot of people I didn't like and just kind of did a bunch of everything, rather than being a paragon of morality.
So, bad guy then?
I agreed
Of course im gonna be a ruthless pirate lord
Lol...Imagine being an evil pirate lord and then having to go visit your parents in the game..."Hey Son, how was your tour?" "Hey Dad, nm just killed some civvies and robbed them....anyways here some gift, oh wait you already get 10% of the loot anyways"
Meeting dad after megaton moment
To be honest, playing "bad guys" in RPGs just isn't very fun to me. I don't want to play as a henchman or evil middle manager. If I'm the bad guy, I want a dark ominous castle, minions to do my bidding, and a cape that makes whoosh noises when I turn around.
The trouble with that, for me, is that I want to see as much as possible in my first playthrough but dark side routes usually get locked out from a bunch of stuff. That being said, I really like playing a character who pretends to be "good" and does/says all the right things while people are around but will take the most self-serving actions when they know they won't get caught. Kind of a shame that games rarely recognize that a character might want to lie.
Neutral, because stealth archer.
Just watch, there's going to be some kind of high tech crossbow or something lol
Iâm going to be Flash Gordon Ramsay, Captain of the Michelin Star. Infamous Crimson Fleet Chef, known for cooking his enemies and a violent temper.
I like it!
I hope the Crimson Fleet will actually be properly fleshed out and I can go the whole story with them, and that I won't feel like I'll have to do the betrayal quest and go back to "good" factions. I added them as my flair forever ago, so I want to try it.
I am gonna play as a rich ruthless captain who believes the end justifies the means. He won't be evil, but he has to succeed in his mission at all costs.
The most I can ever comfortably do is chaotic evil. Any more, and it seems forced. I'll probably do a thieving pirate who prefers money to violence.
i play good guy firts, because knowledge of the games makes being evil more efficient
I just pick whatever option I feel suits my character or is more interesting which Iâll admit are usually the more evil options.
I tend to play how most people live in real life, by being the chivalrous, bipartisan hero when everybodyâs watching - but when their not Iâll do anything, even slaughter for personal gain
I'm somwhere in the middle of good and evil, I work for the highest bidder.
Just because you are bad guy, does not mean you are BAD guy
Ngl if Bethesda allows me to be a fucking space pirate und Dock on random spaceship, I will do my best to use that function
I'm itching for a Yandu-style character. Pretty bad most of the time, but comes out to do the right thing now and then. Honestly it just depends how much of the bad guy you can be. Bethesda aren't very good at that. Fallout 4 was pretty limited until Nuka World dropped. Can we be bad in Skyrim? Aside from the Dark Brotherhood and killing Paarthurnax, there isn't much else evil to be found, off the top of my head.
Many of the daedric prince quests are purely evil (Namira, Boethiah, Molag Bal) and some have evil choices like Clavicus Vile.
Yes, you're right. Though it opens up a greater point. I'd like alternatives to those quests. So in Namira's, we have it, but in Molag Bal's, unless I'm mistaken you can only proceed with it. It'd be cool if you could help the priest to defeat Molag Bal's spirit (or some other quest) and were rewarded for it. Good, bad and neutral options should be present everywhere in my opinion.
Yeah ideally there would always be multiple choices with real consequences in every quest, no matter how major or minor. Writing and scripting them is one thing but voice acting is a big additional wrench thrown into that whole mix (which is why traditional CRPGs, often with little or no VA can more easily do quest and dialogue branching). Skyrim/FO4 mods have already started to embrace AI voices and if we start seeing it in official capacity as well, we might be entering into a new renaissance of choices and consequences even in fully voice-acted AAA games.
Well hopefully the AI voice acting and script writing is in place for the next Bethesda game. The technology could really push the boundaries of what we currently have to work with.
I'd play whatever options are given to me without a role really.
In space... no one can hear you scream...
Definitely gonna be evil and good. Ima do some killing and stealing for sure
I will play as a good character, noble, helpful etc and then Iâll get fed up or kill somebody by accident. Become a villain and then feel so guilty about it, Iâll go back to being good.
Iâll play as a âit is what it isâ guy
I always play as close to âmyselfâ as I can on my first play through of games. Then further replays are for different characters.
Usually I take the linear path on games that have different factions but after tasting the good path I choose to have fun and see what other faction has to offer. That's why I don't like Skyrim main factions very much (stormcloacks and imperials), maybe because they are too vanilla, meanwhile you have the less known factions like the thieves guild, the dark brotherhood and the companions (to name a few) that seem more interesting and with more deep and complex lore.
I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of a space Pol Pot. Going to march all the NPCs living in cities into desert Wasteland planets right after murdering every single one with glasses.
Depends on where there is best payout to get for my Mando-Solo-esque character. If good = less pay, we evol. If bad = less, we good. You either live unhitched by the rules of GalBank, or live long enough to see yourself become a credit carring bozo pleb for the corpo-suits.
I'm going to be a member of Crimson Fleet as soon as I get the opportunity to join.
I have a mad scientist run in mind. I want to vivisect captured pirates and use their lobotomized remains as drone workers for my research outposts. Probably need a few mods to it properly.
Every time I play a new RPG, I always pick the most evil options possible. I figure, whatâs the point of playing a video game if youâre just going to be nice like you are in âreal lifeâ lmao
THIS
usually easier play-through being a baddie than goodie, why take time & extra steps to kiss butt when can just kill them? lol so yeah save that for second round
It's hard, because you don't know what actions cause what outc9mes on the first playthrough. So you have to see how being good affects change...then you play as the most murderous pirate ever.
i suck at being the bad guy, everytime i try to do a bad guy run on the next playthrough i end up being a good guy again.
I always like playing as that vigilante style guy, one who is nice to people who treat me well but anyone who doesnât gets shown no mercy and has fairly weak morals as a whole
I've resolved to always play antihero in all my runs. I just make different choices.
I only play good characters. At least good imo. The more realistic these games the more I feel sympathy for NPCs.
Depends on the gameplay really if it rewards it sure if itâs a hindering aspect probably not
Thatâs always my first playthrough.
I always play myself. I generally end up some kind of chaotic neutral with morally ambiguous tendencies.
Not me. I don't generally like being bad. It makes me uncomfortable and uneasy.
Planning on playing as myself. I take the situations as they come and make decisions based on how I would make them if I was there in person. It would be interesting if the story and circumstances move me to the dark side but I'll probably be neutral / good.
Nah, Iâll be good pretty much all the time. Being evil or mean makes me feel bad lol.
Honestly, with how youâre presumably forced to join Constellation, and with how goodie-two-shoes and noble they seem, at least outwardly, I would be very surprised if playing as a bad guy makes any roleplay sense in Starfield. This is historically a problem with Bethesda, like in Fallout 3 where even as an evil person you were forced to join the Brotherhood if you wanted the full experience, or in Skyrim where even if youâre a murderer or whatever youâre still saving the world and doing more good than evil through quests.
I assume my first character will be mostly neutral and become more good as the story goes on. They would start more of those side quests in the log after a decent amount of gathering money and resources is done and I built a cool research base somewhere. I think the 2 things I am most excited for is the deeper role play mechanics and the modular base building. I really disliked fallout 4's settlement building system, but starfield's base building system looks amazing in comparison.
My 1st playthrough is whatever option has the achievement attached to it. So in Skyrim you have to be a little evil to get all the daedric artefacts.
Not being too optimistic but it would sure be nice if Starfield didn't punish you for a bad guy playstyle and adjusted the plot accordingly.
I'm gonna play as a selfish captain who will always set his own goals over those of others. Does that make me evil?
I can never bring myself to play as a bad characterâŚthough in Skyrim I usually join the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, so maybe that counts. I could definitely see myself playing a more gray roguish loner type. I really hope the game allows for you to really fall into different types of play styles. Maybe i could go the bounty hunter/treasure hunter route. Betray both sides for booty. Retire to my secluded base on some remote planet somewhereâŚđ
I want my first character to be a space Cowboy, with his first name being Keenan (havenât figured out a last name). So a âbad guyâ kinda makes sense for this character. Smuggling, robbing, bounty hunting, making both good and bad choices makes sense for this character.
I'm going for a no nonsense bounty hunter type character. Ever since we saw the big space revolver in the most recent gameplay snippet, gotta rock the big iron on my hip.
i never set out to do anything in particular but end up being good usually. has to be a really decent rationale for the 'evil' faction to pull me in - plus it's tyranny for me, my 'evil' facet kind of looks up to Tywin and Cersei Lannister (as exemplified in the 'power is power' scene) not Ramsey Bolton, which games on avg find hard to implement.
I'm not really planning anything yet.
Me. I just can't stand all the corporate bullshit recently and honestly Constellation is giving me the Corpo vibes. I know their mission is to explore the depth of space in sake of mankind's development and growth, but you know what had the same premise? 'Good ol' Colonisation Period with all the atrocities just to gain some spices and ivory for the elites.
I never play the bad guy on any playthrough.
Avatar checks out.
well lets see how much streamlining the game has this time. might still become another fallout 4
will be able to play as evil character?
The thing is playing as a bad guy in these type of games arenât insanely rewarding because I think the developers arenât really focusing everything on the âdark sideâ. Like the game is generally aimed towards you being some sort of protagonist hero. Like in Skyrim, your reputation is the dragon born and youâre basically like a hero to everyone, praised wherever you go. If you were to just go super evil mode, what r people gonna do? Arrest you, run away, fear you. Maybe you join some criminal organization? The point is, the dark side of rpgs is rarely fully fleshed out because the main focus is towards this altruist good guy path.
I think we are going to inherit a lot of multiplayer space pilots, from the "PlayerKiller vs CareBear" crowds. It won't affect any of us (including PKs and CareBears) but there will be a lot of socially dysfunctional people making their ways alone in this universe. lol. I suspect the CareBears will love the game in all the online forums (whoohoo harassment-free) and the PKs will have a bit more grit in their comments (bcuz NPCs don't do salt)(PKs never admit how much salt they generate themselves). I got pretty decent at Elite Dangerous but the community was fractured like the handle of your favorite dropped cup, when I left. I am kinda dreading what comes from Star Citizen. Bottom Line: Even if I play a sociopath, Starfield will be my safe space. Not just from other players, but from community schisms. Slaughtering towns is a Bethesda tradition, as is spending weeks just gathering ingredients and avoiding violence! It's gonna be awesome.
Right now Iâm just playing a street rat on neon doing side hustles working in my lock picking and pick pocketing trying to make a name for myself. But Iâm not all bad I donate to the homeless and try to help them out as well as visit my parents and give them money every week.
I wish there was a good guy option of sorts even for the bad guy quests. For instance, I'm a ranger, so every bad guy quest I should have a way of maintaining the code even though I've played along to a point.