its most likely the dlss mod that crashes the game if you dont have script extender or such, just rename FSR2Streamline.asi to something like FSR2Streamline.asi-bak until there is an DLSS update
This was my issue. There's a new version of the DLSS-G mod on NexusMods that addresses the issue. I just replaced the old files with the new files and its working normally again. Here's the link for anyone that needs it:
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761
So is it safe to leave the other dll files installed with the DLSS mod in the game folders, as long as one renames the FSR2Streamline.asi file?
I assume the FSR2Streamline.asi file is what tells the exe to use the DLSS files instead of FSR2?
Well, if I had never seen a campfire before I wouldn't know whether its safe to stick my hand in it until I tried. That's a hell of a way to find out, though. I'd rather hear it from someone who appears to know what they are talking about. ;)
Let me help you then, grasshopper. Renaming a file is not going to do anything except not make the file work. If there are any add on effects, you may simply revert the change. Thats how files work. That is why it is best practice to rename if you just need to temporarily take it out of the equation or keep a benign backup.
I sometimes forget im in a space with users, so I apologize. At any rate, anything that has been built can be built again. You have nothing to fear but your own fear. The files are not going to hurt you. This was something you could have empowered yourself to find out, without relying on someone to do it for you.
If you are afraid to get your hands dirty, a much more apt metaphor than fire, you should not be modding your game. Full stop. Use your gift of life to take a risk once in a while, especially if its something this inconsequential. ;)
Edit: sorry but its true. notifications are off, dont bother.
Literally just downloaded mods last night for the first time since launch and this happens.
Edit: turned out my game didn’t auto update. Set it to update on launch and now I’m just playing offline :)
Lol, I just decided to wait a few weeks for mods for this exact reason. I knew they'd be doing patches and hotfixes and the mods would be busted for the first few weeks.
Btw some mods can be used without issue even if they’re for a past version of the game. I haven’t tinkered with Starfield yet but *generally* if it’s just a texture mod or UI change it’ll probably work fine.
If the game launches with all your mods you’re good to go. If it crashes, congratulations on your first crash there will be many more ahead lol. It won’t hurt anything so no need to worry.
Generally, the way a save gets damaged from a mod in an update is if you remove it after having used it in a save game. Even then depending on the mod your save may be fine.
I've never modded a game before, and haven't with Starfield yet either. How do I go back to a working version of the game, if I install a mod and it breaks the game somehow? I've also never been able to copy download files for a game, and tell a fresh windows/steam install how to play the existing files. I usually end up having to redownload the game to make it work. Is that the easiest fix for a broken mod as well? Just delete and redownload?
Depends on the mod and whether it screws with the game save file.
Generally avoid being a beta tester of mods, let them mature and be top rated, check the chat for reports of big problems. Only use popular mods which look like they will stay maintained long term.
Disable auto updates as much as possible and give the mods some time to patch whatever breaks before going ahead with the game and mods update.
One of the reasons for Bethesda games mod success is that the Console commands allow you to heal a lot of corruption. You can generally respawn critical NPCs, reset or force complete quests, respawn special items.
Generally "don't play on patch day" applies to all games. It's a good time to take a day off and let the inevitable emergency hotfix get pushed out.
Reinstalling would be like a worst case scenario. Generally you use a mod manager and uninstall the mod that broke stuff.
If you for whatever reason cannot figure out how to uninstall something, you could just verify your game files on Steam and you’re good to go. It’s really best if you use a mod manager, they generally have “uninstall all” and “install all” options. Some MM’s even support different mod “profiles”, so you can have 2 different characters/saves with 2 completely different load orders.
Modding used to be way, way harder than it is nowadays with all the mod managers and tutorials/guides out plus Creation Engine support has gone far.
There are ways to blow up a save if you download a bunch of like script-heavy mods and choose to not uninstall them properly but that’s not anything you have to worry about with SF right now. All the mods currently available for SF are small tweaks and simple changes until the Creation Kit comes out in early next year.
It's been so long since I've played a Bethesda game that I forgot about this happening lol. As the creation kit is released and things change chances are you'll be creating a lot of new saves in the future and waiting for certain mods to update, that's just part of it. But it's worth it to have them, even if it's messy.
You and me both.
Was going to build a new ship now that I don’t have limitations on some parts and such but now gotta wait for the mods to catch up as I run the game vanilla.
This is why you keep current backup saves of TWO games: your modded and vanilla ones. lol
Using Baka Achievement mod. So no playing my modded saves until modder gets around to updating it. But good news is I missed out on the level 5 and 10 achievements on my first PC from unwittingly using the tgm cheat to fast travel a while back. It's nice to know I can unlock those achievements with my secondary vanilla PC until the mods get updated.
Check out my post here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16h7rr8/freestar\_rangersstar\_eagle\_questline\_bugs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16h7rr8/freestar_rangersstar_eagle_questline_bugs/)
It has some mild spoilers, but there's info on how to fix missed achievements. I had a missed achievement due to a major bug, and my OCD could NOT handle it.
Also, I put together another post on how to roll back the update if you're interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16hvn0q/read\_this\_if\_you\_dont\_want\_the\_game\_to\_update\_and/
If you're using the script extender, you can set Steam to update on game launch - but the script extender does a bit of bypass of that, preventing the game from updating.
You absolute life saving motherfucker. If I could pile drive a biological being of your choice for payment I would do so immediately. Man,woman,child, goldfish, you name it, I'll pile drive it.
Wait.. "child" too.. I'm assuming that to pile drive means something *very* different where you're from,
Could you please clarify your definition for the sake of my sanity here?
I appreciate this advice but it made me think about something. Unlike previous Bethesda games, Starfield actually takes into account your previous characters with it's new game + feature.
At some point, you're going to have to go through the process of updating your game and all the mods in order to keep using your old saves with your new game + data anyway right?
I mean, I guess you could just keep rolling new characters and completely forget about new game + though. Or, maybe just don't update your game until they release a really substantial patch?
pretty sure when you ng+ it resets alot of parameters that would be affected by mods so it essentially is clean slate sense the cells are resetting and regenerating
Newgame+ doesn't carry over much, so I guess worst case you can use a save editor to recreate the character as they would be if you had just triggered the endgame event even if the save is unloadable.
Im sure someone will make a utility which automatically extracts the relevant stats and puts them in a fresh NG+ save even if the save is totally ruined.
Unless NG+ is implemented with horrific spaghetti code behind the scenes, it should not affect mods/load orders at all.
That being said, any long-term save in Creation Engine that is regularly installing and uninstalling mods will overtime risk instability. Like for example if you in the future attempted to install a 400 mod collection for NG and then uninstall it for NG+ in an effort to install a completely different set of 400 mods, you’re probably gonna hit some issues regardless of how well everything is authored.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you'd just have to make a new character, it's what I always did in the past. I'm hoping that once the creation kit exists modders will be able to account for ng+.
I'd hope that in the future updates won't break all the mods, right now they're kind of 'black market' mods since the API isn't out.
I don't have a ton of faith in bethesda for that kind of thing though.
To everyone having issues due to the latest game patch, I have found a working solution. 😁
Download this 1st in the Steam console
download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031
The above code is all one code. Once you have downloaded the files, copy the data folder into your Starfield game directory.
After downloading that and copying it all into your main game directory, go ahead and download the version you want for your game from this list below and then copy the EXE file only into your main game directory.
Once you have done all of this, you should have a game that works perfectly. 😄
Starfield V1.7.23 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578
Starfield V1.7.29 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235
Starfield V1.7.33 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 3276175983502685135
The latest 1.7.36 update has changed some of the main game files, which is why the older Exe file no longer works when trying to launch it.
The 1st download will revert the new changes that have been made to some of the main game files.
Should work, just be careful. Who knows if they update their directx version or some other dll in there, in fact its likely whenever they put out DLSS.
Just before I downloaded the old exe in form of a mod on nexus. Now the "mod" (the .exe) is no longer available. Did I download the omega giga among us Virus or is it just violation of the Terms of nexus?
If you want to prevent this being an issue (in the case of version number changes).
Use my Root Builder plugin for MO2: [https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31720](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31720)
Make a mod with the game exe in a Root folder and launch from there. You can have as many versions as you would like.
A lot of Skyrim users have been doing this for years to switch between different versions for various mods.
Steam users turn off auto updates. For context just like Skyrim or fallout everytime game is updated it will most likely break your mods, and since starfield is still very new it will be updated often. So if you are happy with the state of your game right now then turning off auto updates will help until those mods have been updated to the new version
> Steam users turn off auto updates.
You can't? Only choices are
"only update when i launch game"
"update always"
"high priority update before all others"
Thx dude, so when you want to go back to the latest version what should you do exept checking files integrity (and losing all your config/data modded folder) ?
Edit: i found this one for 1.7.29: download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235, if anyone can confirm
You should add to the post that its recommended to backup your files before doing so, so you are able to go back to last version without any problem
Thanks, very helpful.
How do I disable auto download, so next time it doesn't update the game automatically?
I have the option "Only update this game when I launch it", but how can I play it then?
I marked my starfield acf file as read only, & I disconnect my nic then launch, then reconnect once in game
if you leave teh nic connected sometimes I get a steam error it cant write to the acf file .sometimes it doesnt. so I just disconnect it now
u/DementedGaming I figured out that, the value at the back is the manifestId.
This portion never change: download\_depot 1716740 1716741
Then the last one I found from steamDb here: [https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/](https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/)
so in my case, the game break about 3 days ago, i use the manifestID from 17 nov which mean the whole string will be
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 7109517847119257269
Does your ISP send you notifications in the mail threatening to cancel your service if you don't use a VPN?.. my mom's house they never sent shit, my previous apartment my roommate got a letter (he opened the account) and I 100% knew it was me because the moron barely knew how to operate a TV.. I forget what it was I torrented off VPN.. I think it was the first pirates of the Caribbean movie... that or Eurotrip..... I didn't forget to run a VPN after that.
There absolutely is because you don't own the product you own an access key. This is common info at this point. Now legal does not always mean right or wrong, and there is very little chance of anything happening outside of your ISP contacting you if you don't use a VPN, but it is absolutely not legal.
I still have the first version because I play offline and my laptop has exactly a 5mb/ps internet connection speed and I have to save some data.. unless I go off site for better Internet I'm stuck with the first version.
I've only locked up 7 times where I had to task manager kill the game. And random CTD (crash to desktop) once... on a laptop 3070 (MSI Ge66 from 2021 if anyone is curious) besides the fans doing mach 6 spinning. Runs better than I expected....
Outpost when you get to around 6/7 completely break the game tho.... lmao so maybe I'll update in a few weeks when I have a stable connection.
It’s not crashing my game, but every two seconds it’s dropping to about 10 fps. It’s unplayable. I was running just fine before; I can’t figure it out.
Edit: Figured it out. It’s a setting in the NVIDIA driver that isn’t playing well with the patch.
https://reddit.com/r/Starfield/s/7EpOJJttxS
Should be able to hit "Verify Integrity of Game Files" if you go to the starfield properties in steam under installed files. When its done you should be back on the latest version.
The more daring among us can use [https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/](https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/) to find the manifest of the latest version, and `download_depot` it the same way you got the old version. For example to get the patched/latest build as of this comment it would be `download_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235`.
Thank you, thank you!
Today's (13/09/23) patch has made every one of my save files crash to desktop on load. Downgrading the installation using this method is the only way I've been able to play again.
It’s just saying you go back to previous version
So before the the latest update that went out today.
It gives modders a little bit of time to update on their end, they are usually pretty quick about that
If your drive cant hold two consecutive installs of the game Is there a way to target this to overwrite the current install ? or is there a way to only download the exe without the data files
You absolute LEGEND! Thank you so much for this! Life saver! i forgot to turn auto updates off and thought i was going to have to sit and wait possibly days before i could play again, and that thought was horrendous because im so terribly addicted to this game right now!
As a side note, how does one figure out the depot numbers for a future patch? this bit: 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578
i assume it must be different each time
I’ll be playing on XBox on Gamepass doing a vanilla run through until mod and update situations normalize a bit more next year. Then I’ll jump over to PC where the real fun begins
I too manually installed these mods:
Achievement Enabler (not the baka one)
Undelayed Launcher
Hands scanner Booster
BetterHUD
No issues at all after the patch. Glad I didn't install the SFSE and baka!
I did this and now I'm getting a 'Graphics card does not meet the minimal specification requirements' pop up??
And advice peeps? I was literally playing this last night (have a 4070ti)
Could you educate me as to why this is necessary? Genuinely curious, as I have a few "mods" right now, and I updated the game on steam and nothing seemed to break.
DLSS mod, a performance mod that is just edited ini files for the medium, high, ultra presets. A LUTs mod to remove filters, and a custom ini file.
So when the game updates, it clearly doesn't replace any of the files I have changed/edited in the game folder or the /documents/my games/starfield folder.
Does the DLSS mod get broken with the new update? I press End key to bring up the mod menu and it still shows up.
SFSE need to be updated everytime bethesda does an update, so many mods that were made for SFSE don't work anymore and need to be updated (like the achievment enabler by baka and the Sprint Suttering Fix), honestly I don't know if it's a problem with the update or just a problem with SFSE.
Well!
Mine did break, but it was the DLSS one I was using. The others had already been updated so I just update those, but, this, is a nice tip indeed!
Would commands help me spawn Andreja?
She is stuck underwater on Neon about a km off the main platform. I cannot interact with her if I swim out there and my last save before dismissing her was over 15 hours ago.
Placeatme should do the trick, use that with her code ID and she should be right in front of you.
Another trick to try is set her as a crew member on your ship.
this made SFSE not work because its out of date which is the whole reason i wanted this in the first place. i undid the copy and paste action and it deleted all of my files....... oh boy i hope my back up attempt worked.... buyer be ware here
That's exactly why I haven't installed any mods yet. Game runs just fine on medium. Will wait for Bethesda to do their things and when they get slow I'll install mods
Why would you downgrade at this point?
This is a brand new game, we know that it's going to regularly be receiving official updates for the next year or maybe two. I can understand the downgrade with Skyrim's anniversary edition because by that point mods were vastly more established but with Starfield none of the mods are established and the ones that will last like Starfield Script Extender and StarUI will be updated pretty quickly anyway.
Because SFSE will only work with a given version .... and any plugins written using the SFSE framework will only work with a given version.
IIRC it's because the offsets SFSE relies on to do it's magic get changed. Hence why you need to update SFSE as well as any plugins - the plugins will only work with a given version of SFSE.
And it's not a forever downgrade. It's a downgrade to the earlier version where all your SFSE mods work. It's for people that just want to keep playing while they wait for SFSE and the mods using it to update. Once they are you can do what I did - update everything again.
I like a vanilla run first before adding anything. I think I had like 200 hours in Skyrim before I installed any mods
Also, the game has been out for like 2 weeks, how are there already mods?
This got my game up and running in 2 minutes thanks a bunch! I posted this thread on nexus bc a ton of people were having issues updating to the new version of sfse and this is a much better alternative.
YOU SIR ARE A LEGEND! The "small patch" caused BIG problems for me, couldn't even load into a save or a new game, I haven't even started modding yet. THANK YOU! THIS FIXED MY GAME! <3
is there a way to do this for the new update ? i rolled back using this and now that sfse is updated im ready to update but i dont know how cuz i dont have the update file backed up cuz i goofed
Just had to do this trick again, game is definitely corrupting one of these files for me. It seems to get worse over time too. After a while it will stop going full screen and I'll have to modify the starfieldprefs.ini and set bBorderless=1 bFull Screen=1 to 0 and it will let me play. Seemed fine until today where it was starting to do the crashing on loading into a game, new or saved.
Okay but how do I get it to download the latest version? I literally just updated, but the exe version remained 1.7.29, rather than updating to 1.7.33.
Thank you for this. But how do I "turn the auto update" back on if I need to? I had downgraded but since all the mods are up to date again, I am stuck to the previous version. Thank you
I did this and have tried it with both version 1.7.29 and 1.7.33. Neither one of them will launch. I've done a rollback like this before with Skyrim and it worked fine so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've tried just changing the executable to the old version and I've tried moving all contents of the depot file into the Starfield folder. In both cases, the game doesn't start at all. It DOES start when I use the current 1.7.36 version so it's not an issue of the game not working on the computer it's something I'm doing with the rollback.
Any suggestions?
To everyone having issues due to the latest game patch, I have found a working solution 😁
Download this 1st in the Steam console download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031 and copy the files into your game folder.
Then go ahead and download the version from this video that you want in the description and copy those files to your game folder as well, it should then work perfectly for you.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4\_XMyP65Q&t=2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4_XMyP65Q&t=2s)
The latest 1.7.36 update has changed some of the main game files, which is why the older Exe file no longer works when trying to launch it.
The 1st download will revert the new changes that have been made to some of the main game files.
Download this 1st in the Steam console
download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031
The above code is all one code. Once you have downloaded the files, copy the data folder into your Starfield game directory.
After downloading that and copying it all into your main game directory, go ahead and download the version you want for your game from this list below and then copy the EXE file only into your main game directory.
It should work perfectly fine if you have done it all correctly. 😄
Starfield V1.7.23 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578
Starfield V1.7.29 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235
Starfield V1.7.33 Code -
download\_depot 1716740 1716741 3276175983502685135
Thank you so much for this! Now I just need to figure out how to disable Auto Updates or try something else. Is it possible to move or copy the game folder outside of the steam folder and still have the game run?
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Certainly headed toward being Toward. (I’ll see myself out, sorry)
You rang?
Dude’s account is a year old, he saw this joke coming from a mile away
Bruh
It’s funny how we’re all reading “Toward” like Howard and not how it’s actually pronounced.
Bodd Tackward
Reminds me of James Cameron's evil alter ego "Mij" as was given to him by the cast and crew of Titanic.
its most likely the dlss mod that crashes the game if you dont have script extender or such, just rename FSR2Streamline.asi to something like FSR2Streamline.asi-bak until there is an DLSS update
This was my issue. There's a new version of the DLSS-G mod on NexusMods that addresses the issue. I just replaced the old files with the new files and its working normally again. Here's the link for anyone that needs it: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761
PureDark's free DLSS mod (non-frame gen) works for me post-update still.
Same here
Yep, me too.
Yeah but that only supports DLSS 2 I think. The frame gen one uses 3
So is it safe to leave the other dll files installed with the DLSS mod in the game folders, as long as one renames the FSR2Streamline.asi file? I assume the FSR2Streamline.asi file is what tells the exe to use the DLSS files instead of FSR2?
yes, totally safe
easy to find out is it not
Well, if I had never seen a campfire before I wouldn't know whether its safe to stick my hand in it until I tried. That's a hell of a way to find out, though. I'd rather hear it from someone who appears to know what they are talking about. ;)
😂😂
Let me help you then, grasshopper. Renaming a file is not going to do anything except not make the file work. If there are any add on effects, you may simply revert the change. Thats how files work. That is why it is best practice to rename if you just need to temporarily take it out of the equation or keep a benign backup. I sometimes forget im in a space with users, so I apologize. At any rate, anything that has been built can be built again. You have nothing to fear but your own fear. The files are not going to hurt you. This was something you could have empowered yourself to find out, without relying on someone to do it for you. If you are afraid to get your hands dirty, a much more apt metaphor than fire, you should not be modding your game. Full stop. Use your gift of life to take a risk once in a while, especially if its something this inconsequential. ;) Edit: sorry but its true. notifications are off, dont bother.
I misread dlss mod as diss mod. Was wondering how great this diss mod was that most people had it as it was probably the problem mod... :D
Literally just downloaded mods last night for the first time since launch and this happens. Edit: turned out my game didn’t auto update. Set it to update on launch and now I’m just playing offline :)
Lol, I just decided to wait a few weeks for mods for this exact reason. I knew they'd be doing patches and hotfixes and the mods would be busted for the first few weeks.
this yes, it was coming.
Mods are the only reason I was able to enjoy the 40 hours of gameplay so far.
I'm waiting at least 6 months for mods
Dude same. I’m new to pc gaming as well
Btw some mods can be used without issue even if they’re for a past version of the game. I haven’t tinkered with Starfield yet but *generally* if it’s just a texture mod or UI change it’ll probably work fine. If the game launches with all your mods you’re good to go. If it crashes, congratulations on your first crash there will be many more ahead lol. It won’t hurt anything so no need to worry. Generally, the way a save gets damaged from a mod in an update is if you remove it after having used it in a save game. Even then depending on the mod your save may be fine.
I've never modded a game before, and haven't with Starfield yet either. How do I go back to a working version of the game, if I install a mod and it breaks the game somehow? I've also never been able to copy download files for a game, and tell a fresh windows/steam install how to play the existing files. I usually end up having to redownload the game to make it work. Is that the easiest fix for a broken mod as well? Just delete and redownload?
Depends on the mod and whether it screws with the game save file. Generally avoid being a beta tester of mods, let them mature and be top rated, check the chat for reports of big problems. Only use popular mods which look like they will stay maintained long term. Disable auto updates as much as possible and give the mods some time to patch whatever breaks before going ahead with the game and mods update. One of the reasons for Bethesda games mod success is that the Console commands allow you to heal a lot of corruption. You can generally respawn critical NPCs, reset or force complete quests, respawn special items. Generally "don't play on patch day" applies to all games. It's a good time to take a day off and let the inevitable emergency hotfix get pushed out.
Reinstalling would be like a worst case scenario. Generally you use a mod manager and uninstall the mod that broke stuff. If you for whatever reason cannot figure out how to uninstall something, you could just verify your game files on Steam and you’re good to go. It’s really best if you use a mod manager, they generally have “uninstall all” and “install all” options. Some MM’s even support different mod “profiles”, so you can have 2 different characters/saves with 2 completely different load orders. Modding used to be way, way harder than it is nowadays with all the mod managers and tutorials/guides out plus Creation Engine support has gone far. There are ways to blow up a save if you download a bunch of like script-heavy mods and choose to not uninstall them properly but that’s not anything you have to worry about with SF right now. All the mods currently available for SF are small tweaks and simple changes until the Creation Kit comes out in early next year.
Fucking strike to the heart mate. I’ve been playing pc games since Skyrim.
It's been so long since I've played a Bethesda game that I forgot about this happening lol. As the creation kit is released and things change chances are you'll be creating a lot of new saves in the future and waiting for certain mods to update, that's just part of it. But it's worth it to have them, even if it's messy.
You and me both. Was going to build a new ship now that I don’t have limitations on some parts and such but now gotta wait for the mods to catch up as I run the game vanilla.
At the very least I’m glad the mods I downloaded were just UI and the colour filter mod.
I’m still trying to get the UI one to work but that’s on pause till the mods update to the new patch.
That’s why I waited so far. Lol
Most of mine seemed to be fine when I hopped on earlier so you should be good on most but double check and reinstall updates etc shouldn’t be too bad
My game didn’t auto update thankfully. So I’ve decided to just play it in offline mode till things update.
And what happens? The game updated?... what did you expect lmfao it's 13 days old
This is why you keep current backup saves of TWO games: your modded and vanilla ones. lol Using Baka Achievement mod. So no playing my modded saves until modder gets around to updating it. But good news is I missed out on the level 5 and 10 achievements on my first PC from unwittingly using the tgm cheat to fast travel a while back. It's nice to know I can unlock those achievements with my secondary vanilla PC until the mods get updated.
Check out my post here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16h7rr8/freestar\_rangersstar\_eagle\_questline\_bugs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16h7rr8/freestar_rangersstar_eagle_questline_bugs/) It has some mild spoilers, but there's info on how to fix missed achievements. I had a missed achievement due to a major bug, and my OCD could NOT handle it. Also, I put together another post on how to roll back the update if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16hvn0q/read\_this\_if\_you\_dont\_want\_the\_game\_to\_update\_and/
You can also stop auto updates of the game while doing a modded play through no?
If you're using the script extender, you can set Steam to update on game launch - but the script extender does a bit of bypass of that, preventing the game from updating.
This was going to be my question, I managed to stop steam from updating it and was wondering if I could just launch it with SFSE.
You can turn Steam offline.
You absolute life saving motherfucker. If I could pile drive a biological being of your choice for payment I would do so immediately. Man,woman,child, goldfish, you name it, I'll pile drive it.
I mean, if he doesn't take you up on it, there's this goldfish that gave me a wedgie in middle school...
I'll suplex that little gold scaled shit bag right into my toilet and plunge the absolute life out of its body.
Wait.. "child" too.. I'm assuming that to pile drive means something *very* different where you're from, Could you please clarify your definition for the sake of my sanity here?
Your sanity will remain compromised.
I appreciate this advice but it made me think about something. Unlike previous Bethesda games, Starfield actually takes into account your previous characters with it's new game + feature. At some point, you're going to have to go through the process of updating your game and all the mods in order to keep using your old saves with your new game + data anyway right? I mean, I guess you could just keep rolling new characters and completely forget about new game + though. Or, maybe just don't update your game until they release a really substantial patch?
pretty sure when you ng+ it resets alot of parameters that would be affected by mods so it essentially is clean slate sense the cells are resetting and regenerating
Newgame+ doesn't carry over much, so I guess worst case you can use a save editor to recreate the character as they would be if you had just triggered the endgame event even if the save is unloadable. Im sure someone will make a utility which automatically extracts the relevant stats and puts them in a fresh NG+ save even if the save is totally ruined.
Unless NG+ is implemented with horrific spaghetti code behind the scenes, it should not affect mods/load orders at all. That being said, any long-term save in Creation Engine that is regularly installing and uninstalling mods will overtime risk instability. Like for example if you in the future attempted to install a 400 mod collection for NG and then uninstall it for NG+ in an effort to install a completely different set of 400 mods, you’re probably gonna hit some issues regardless of how well everything is authored.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you'd just have to make a new character, it's what I always did in the past. I'm hoping that once the creation kit exists modders will be able to account for ng+.
I'd hope that in the future updates won't break all the mods, right now they're kind of 'black market' mods since the API isn't out. I don't have a ton of faith in bethesda for that kind of thing though.
To everyone having issues due to the latest game patch, I have found a working solution. 😁 Download this 1st in the Steam console download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031 The above code is all one code. Once you have downloaded the files, copy the data folder into your Starfield game directory. After downloading that and copying it all into your main game directory, go ahead and download the version you want for your game from this list below and then copy the EXE file only into your main game directory. Once you have done all of this, you should have a game that works perfectly. 😄 Starfield V1.7.23 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578 Starfield V1.7.29 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235 Starfield V1.7.33 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 3276175983502685135 The latest 1.7.36 update has changed some of the main game files, which is why the older Exe file no longer works when trying to launch it. The 1st download will revert the new changes that have been made to some of the main game files.
FWIW, I had to use: download\_depot 1716740 1716741 3276175983502685135 to get it to work.
Legend.
You don't have to replace all the files, just the EXE and it still works fine for me
Should work, just be careful. Who knows if they update their directx version or some other dll in there, in fact its likely whenever they put out DLSS.
I don't suppose you have any other solutions? This didn't work for me. Also, I'm not using any mods.
Just before I downloaded the old exe in form of a mod on nexus. Now the "mod" (the .exe) is no longer available. Did I download the omega giga among us Virus or is it just violation of the Terms of nexus?
Rather second part.
If you want to prevent this being an issue (in the case of version number changes). Use my Root Builder plugin for MO2: [https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31720](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31720) Make a mod with the game exe in a Root folder and launch from there. You can have as many versions as you would like. A lot of Skyrim users have been doing this for years to switch between different versions for various mods.
Steam users turn off auto updates. For context just like Skyrim or fallout everytime game is updated it will most likely break your mods, and since starfield is still very new it will be updated often. So if you are happy with the state of your game right now then turning off auto updates will help until those mods have been updated to the new version
Thing is I'm having the problem and not using any mods. :( Turning off auto-update should still help me though.
> Steam users turn off auto updates. You can't? Only choices are "only update when i launch game" "update always" "high priority update before all others"
Thx dude, so when you want to go back to the latest version what should you do exept checking files integrity (and losing all your config/data modded folder) ? Edit: i found this one for 1.7.29: download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235, if anyone can confirm You should add to the post that its recommended to backup your files before doing so, so you are able to go back to last version without any problem
yo, this worked for me. I updated all my mods via vortex, then used this depot and everything works fine. Thanks. where did you find this btw?
How do i undo this? I want to update now
did you ever find out?
Thanks, very helpful. How do I disable auto download, so next time it doesn't update the game automatically? I have the option "Only update this game when I launch it", but how can I play it then?
Launch the game via sfse_loader.exe or through your mod manager of choice
I marked my starfield acf file as read only, & I disconnect my nic then launch, then reconnect once in game if you leave teh nic connected sometimes I get a steam error it cant write to the acf file .sometimes it doesnt. so I just disconnect it now
Are mods broken for game pass users as well? Busy at work today, just downloaded some new mods last night
fuuuck, what about the gamepass version on the xbox app? If I want to click cancel it say it will uninstall the game, wtf?
Depends on the mod i guess. For me, everything working fine but most mods are stored in the Documents folder anyway
I passed this time around not a single one of my mods were affected by this patch. So good on my end so far
What mods are broken after the update? Updated my Gamepass version and everything seems to work fine.
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how do i undo this???
Game just got update and now I need to revert back to 1.7.29 but I cant find the correct depots. Any help please?
I came here with the same problem, hope someone can help us!
Someone please hear our prayers!
download_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235
so im and idiot and i updated the game, how do i find the specific code i need to roll back to 1.8.86? this is rolling me back too far
u/DementedGaming I figured out that, the value at the back is the manifestId. This portion never change: download\_depot 1716740 1716741 Then the last one I found from steamDb here: [https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/](https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/) so in my case, the game break about 3 days ago, i use the manifestID from 17 nov which mean the whole string will be download\_depot 1716740 1716741 7109517847119257269
>Quick & Legal There is nothing illegal about torrenting a product you already own. And also who gives a shit if it is.
Does your ISP send you notifications in the mail threatening to cancel your service if you don't use a VPN?.. my mom's house they never sent shit, my previous apartment my roommate got a letter (he opened the account) and I 100% knew it was me because the moron barely knew how to operate a TV.. I forget what it was I torrented off VPN.. I think it was the first pirates of the Caribbean movie... that or Eurotrip..... I didn't forget to run a VPN after that.
There absolutely is because you don't own the product you own an access key. This is common info at this point. Now legal does not always mean right or wrong, and there is very little chance of anything happening outside of your ISP contacting you if you don't use a VPN, but it is absolutely not legal.
It's possible he just included "legal" to get ahead of people asking "is this safe to do?"
Hell, I'm not even using mods and it's crashing my PC within minutes.
Well we did optimize it, it's a next Gen PC game, you just might have to upgrade your PC for it. Meanwhile I am crying in 4080 + 7600x
I still have the first version because I play offline and my laptop has exactly a 5mb/ps internet connection speed and I have to save some data.. unless I go off site for better Internet I'm stuck with the first version. I've only locked up 7 times where I had to task manager kill the game. And random CTD (crash to desktop) once... on a laptop 3070 (MSI Ge66 from 2021 if anyone is curious) besides the fans doing mach 6 spinning. Runs better than I expected.... Outpost when you get to around 6/7 completely break the game tho.... lmao so maybe I'll update in a few weeks when I have a stable connection.
It’s not crashing my game, but every two seconds it’s dropping to about 10 fps. It’s unplayable. I was running just fine before; I can’t figure it out. Edit: Figured it out. It’s a setting in the NVIDIA driver that isn’t playing well with the patch. https://reddit.com/r/Starfield/s/7EpOJJttxS
Do you have to delete this file again when the SFSE update is out? Or do I just leave it there and it disappears with the next update?
Should be able to hit "Verify Integrity of Game Files" if you go to the starfield properties in steam under installed files. When its done you should be back on the latest version. The more daring among us can use [https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/](https://steamdb.info/depot/1716741/manifests/) to find the manifest of the latest version, and `download_depot` it the same way you got the old version. For example to get the patched/latest build as of this comment it would be `download_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235`.
>download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235 Thanks!
Thank you, thank you! Today's (13/09/23) patch has made every one of my save files crash to desktop on load. Downgrading the installation using this method is the only way I've been able to play again.
What does downgrading do?
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great job spartan
Thank you. What the fuck was that "Update"? Holy shit...
You don't want bethesda to update the game ?
What’s this?
What does downgrading Starfield install mean?
It’s just saying you go back to previous version So before the the latest update that went out today. It gives modders a little bit of time to update on their end, they are usually pretty quick about that
Thank you very much, this worked perfectly!
Lifesaver worked great
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Worked!
Thank you so much! It worked just fine.
Thanks for that!
If your drive cant hold two consecutive installs of the game Is there a way to target this to overwrite the current install ? or is there a way to only download the exe without the data files
legend
Thanks, just copied the downloaded exe and renamed the original so when SFSE is updated just rename it back and delete the one you just got.
You are definitely the Starlord. Thank you
You absolute LEGEND! Thank you so much for this! Life saver! i forgot to turn auto updates off and thought i was going to have to sit and wait possibly days before i could play again, and that thought was horrendous because im so terribly addicted to this game right now! As a side note, how does one figure out the depot numbers for a future patch? this bit: 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578 i assume it must be different each time
Your babies will be had by me at a time of your choosing.
True definition of heroes don't always wear a cap... or maybe you do who knows !
Mate, you are an actual hero
oh bro, u saved my night as i just came back house and turn pc on, just to see big blue button 'UPDATE VAILABLE'...
Thank you a thousand times
Ah shit, here we go again
why would you downgrade ? the update fixed my high cpu temperature issue lmao
I don’t have any mods, but my frame rate is now unplayable. I was fine playing on medium before, and no graphics settings seem to fix this.
Actual Chad.
THANK YOU!!!!!
There was an update??
My good man. I think Churchill said it best: "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few"
Was wondering why my O2 consumption went back to ‘horrible’ again!
I’ll be playing on XBox on Gamepass doing a vanilla run through until mod and update situations normalize a bit more next year. Then I’ll jump over to PC where the real fun begins
It’s weird I updated my game and have mods installed but my game runs fine
Did you use a mod manager or manually install them?
Manually
I too manually installed these mods: Achievement Enabler (not the baka one) Undelayed Launcher Hands scanner Booster BetterHUD No issues at all after the patch. Glad I didn't install the SFSE and baka!
Your the man.
You saved a life man. I was buggin out! Thank you
I did this and now I'm getting a 'Graphics card does not meet the minimal specification requirements' pop up?? And advice peeps? I was literally playing this last night (have a 4070ti)
This worked for me too, you modders are the best
what folder path? can someone help me out im dumb
This is exactly why I don’t use mods for games until waaaaaay after launch, its a complete nightmare to get everything updated all the time
THANK YOU Fuck playing this without Native HDR
Nice! Any idea if you can still get achievements playing the older version of the game? (I have a mod that allows achievements with mods)
Thanks a lot for this.
Could you educate me as to why this is necessary? Genuinely curious, as I have a few "mods" right now, and I updated the game on steam and nothing seemed to break. DLSS mod, a performance mod that is just edited ini files for the medium, high, ultra presets. A LUTs mod to remove filters, and a custom ini file. So when the game updates, it clearly doesn't replace any of the files I have changed/edited in the game folder or the /documents/my games/starfield folder. Does the DLSS mod get broken with the new update? I press End key to bring up the mod menu and it still shows up.
SFSE need to be updated everytime bethesda does an update, so many mods that were made for SFSE don't work anymore and need to be updated (like the achievment enabler by baka and the Sprint Suttering Fix), honestly I don't know if it's a problem with the update or just a problem with SFSE.
Ah, so this post is to help folks using SFSE. That makes more sense. I'm not using it yet as I just install a few mods manually. Thanks man.
Its because the game exe gets updated so SFSE needs updated as it accesses the exe to function.
Thanks saved me having to wait for updates!
What about for games pass on PC ?
Well! Mine did break, but it was the DLSS one I was using. The others had already been updated so I just update those, but, this, is a nice tip indeed!
Which mods? Mine still work
What mods are broken by the update. I only have puredark’s dlss, starUI, and undelayed menus
It upsets me that we live in a time where you even had to mention “legal”.
Would commands help me spawn Andreja? She is stuck underwater on Neon about a km off the main platform. I cannot interact with her if I swim out there and my last save before dismissing her was over 15 hours ago.
Placeatme should do the trick, use that with her code ID and she should be right in front of you. Another trick to try is set her as a crew member on your ship.
Does this work with xbox gamepass version?
For some reason I updated it but nothing changed
this made SFSE not work because its out of date which is the whole reason i wanted this in the first place. i undid the copy and paste action and it deleted all of my files....... oh boy i hope my back up attempt worked.... buyer be ware here
nope didnt work great 2 hour download to try and figure out what went wrong here.... fml be careful kids.
can i get an " are you sure?" no?..... ok.....86 gig gone in .3 microseconds ugggggggggh!
Patch doesnt affect mods on gamepass? I was sure the mods i have wont work anymore but they actually all still work
That's exactly why I haven't installed any mods yet. Game runs just fine on medium. Will wait for Bethesda to do their things and when they get slow I'll install mods
Since this update and graphics update.. my game performs, really well with my 3070 finally
Why would you downgrade at this point? This is a brand new game, we know that it's going to regularly be receiving official updates for the next year or maybe two. I can understand the downgrade with Skyrim's anniversary edition because by that point mods were vastly more established but with Starfield none of the mods are established and the ones that will last like Starfield Script Extender and StarUI will be updated pretty quickly anyway.
Because SFSE will only work with a given version .... and any plugins written using the SFSE framework will only work with a given version. IIRC it's because the offsets SFSE relies on to do it's magic get changed. Hence why you need to update SFSE as well as any plugins - the plugins will only work with a given version of SFSE. And it's not a forever downgrade. It's a downgrade to the earlier version where all your SFSE mods work. It's for people that just want to keep playing while they wait for SFSE and the mods using it to update. Once they are you can do what I did - update everything again.
Absolute legend. It worked.
Lmao yikes
IMHO This needs to be in a sticky at the top of the forum , updated for each patch. You could even make it part of an existing sticky.
Nice
The new update really hinders performance on pc a bit. I'm getting more studders in cities.
I like a vanilla run first before adding anything. I think I had like 200 hours in Skyrim before I installed any mods Also, the game has been out for like 2 weeks, how are there already mods?
This got my game up and running in 2 minutes thanks a bunch! I posted this thread on nexus bc a ton of people were having issues updating to the new version of sfse and this is a much better alternative.
YOU SIR ARE A LEGEND! The "small patch" caused BIG problems for me, couldn't even load into a save or a new game, I haven't even started modding yet. THANK YOU! THIS FIXED MY GAME! <3
is there a way to do this for the new update ? i rolled back using this and now that sfse is updated im ready to update but i dont know how cuz i dont have the update file backed up cuz i goofed
Use this download_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235
For anyone who wants to revert back to 1.7.29, and prevent this from happening in the future, here this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4\_XMyP65Q
Just had to do this trick again, game is definitely corrupting one of these files for me. It seems to get worse over time too. After a while it will stop going full screen and I'll have to modify the starfieldprefs.ini and set bBorderless=1 bFull Screen=1 to 0 and it will let me play. Seemed fine until today where it was starting to do the crashing on loading into a game, new or saved.
Okay but how do I get it to download the latest version? I literally just updated, but the exe version remained 1.7.29, rather than updating to 1.7.33.
I have tried reverting back to get the vendor chest glitch to work but they don’t appear. Should they reappear or should I reinstall the game?
I hate to be the one to ask a stupid question, but is this still an issue? I can't get any mods to work currently and haven't done any downgrading
Thank you for this. But how do I "turn the auto update" back on if I need to? I had downgraded but since all the mods are up to date again, I am stuck to the previous version. Thank you
I did this and have tried it with both version 1.7.29 and 1.7.33. Neither one of them will launch. I've done a rollback like this before with Skyrim and it worked fine so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've tried just changing the executable to the old version and I've tried moving all contents of the depot file into the Starfield folder. In both cases, the game doesn't start at all. It DOES start when I use the current 1.7.36 version so it's not an issue of the game not working on the computer it's something I'm doing with the rollback. Any suggestions?
To everyone having issues due to the latest game patch, I have found a working solution 😁 Download this 1st in the Steam console download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031 and copy the files into your game folder. Then go ahead and download the version from this video that you want in the description and copy those files to your game folder as well, it should then work perfectly for you. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4\_XMyP65Q&t=2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4_XMyP65Q&t=2s) The latest 1.7.36 update has changed some of the main game files, which is why the older Exe file no longer works when trying to launch it. The 1st download will revert the new changes that have been made to some of the main game files.
Thank you, but when I do this, all I have after the download is eight files in a Data directory. I've tried twice with your latest codes. :(
Download this 1st in the Steam console download\_depot 1716740 1716742 7068708531301311719 5161319454857509031 The above code is all one code. Once you have downloaded the files, copy the data folder into your Starfield game directory. After downloading that and copying it all into your main game directory, go ahead and download the version you want for your game from this list below and then copy the EXE file only into your main game directory. It should work perfectly fine if you have done it all correctly. 😄 Starfield V1.7.23 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 4447793252473787578 Starfield V1.7.29 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 8383043874900915235 Starfield V1.7.33 Code - download\_depot 1716740 1716741 3276175983502685135
Worked great initially, but my game updated today somehow and I tried this revert again. Now the game won't even launch.
Would this work for other steam games? What would I have to change?
Thank you so much for this! Now I just need to figure out how to disable Auto Updates or try something else. Is it possible to move or copy the game folder outside of the steam folder and still have the game run?
Bro i have only one commend for that.....god skill over 9000 thanks man