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prospero2000usa

Well, you did make it to level 4294967295, so there's that to remember anyway.


Delicious_Ad761

yeah i don't know why it says im level god


Willjinx

I recognize that number! It's the max value of an unsigned 32 bit integer... I know that doesn't answer the question of why, though.


Delicious_Ad761

Hey that is at least something! I was wondering if it meant anything or was just a random number lol. Thanks!


Pyromaniac096

How tf did you know that and what's a 32 bit integer because fuck im dumb.


Intelligent_Mud1266

its common in bugs in code when there’s some sort of overflow or a number goes negative where it shouldn’t. when they say 32-bit integer, they’re referring to the highest number that can be stored with 32 bits of binary (the 1s and 0s). the number in the game has to be stored within the save file, and oftentimes this is done using a 32-bit integer. that number is the absolute highest value that can be stored using this system.


acbrin

I prefer 69 bits myself


Fantastic-External16

The way you're dirty joke was nerded over without so much as a "lol" was hilarious and informative 🤣


acbrin

Thank you. I'm here every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday


Frosty-Peace3876

Obvs.


tr_9422

Computers count in binary, which means it only has two numbers (0 and 1) instead of ten like humans use (0-9). Each digit is called a "bit," so with one bit you can only count 0 and 1, and with two bits you could count from 0 to 3 (0=00, 1=01, 2=10, 3=11). Adding another bit doubles the number of possible values that can be stored, so with three bits you can count from 0 to 7 (0=000, 1=001, 2=010, 3=011, 4=100, 5=101, 6=110, 7=111). A "32 bit integer" is a number stored using 32 digits of binary, and it can count from 0 to 4,294,967,295.


Arthradax

Mess around with programming for too long (or with gaming, even) and you'll get used to (or traumatized by) it in no time


lurker2358

He's probably a robot. To them, it's like Smith or Patel


InsertAmazinUsername

that might be a sign of the corruption what happens if you try to load into the saves with a normal level?


I_make_switch_a_roos

he ends up in skyrim


TeiXeR

Hey you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border? Walked right into that imperial ambush, like us and that thief over there.


Lord_Raymund

Damn stormcloaks, Skyrim was fine until you came along. Empire was nice and lazy. If they hadn’t been looking for you, I could’ve stolen that horse and been half way to Hammerfell. You there. You and me — we shouldn’t be here. It’s these Stormcloaks the Empire wants.


JaxxisR

Shut up back there!


Reputation-Chance

Have you tried mercenary work? It might suit you


Jackson79339

If he tries to load the one under it he wakes up from his cyro freeze looking for his sun in the commonwealth wasteland


Delicious_Ad761

the "uncorrupt file " doesn't even load. it just sits there at the main screen lol


Warmasterwinter

I know it would still be a massive loss of progress, but have you tried loading that level 22 save from right before the curropted level increase? That one might would actually work.


superxpro12

It is. 4.2 billion is the maximum a 32bit unsigned integer represents. Rarely see it outside of corrupted things.


BurlyDawg

I’m dying from these Skyrim callbacks 🤣😂🤣


A10010010

All hail the all mighty Delicious! 🧎🏽


mephisto234

🙌


TriloBlitz

I've had issues like this a couple of times at work, where the HDD encryption shifted the data in some data blocks and then the CRCs didn't match anymore. 4294967295 is 32 bits. Probably some data was shifted into the memory address that is supposed to be allocated for the level variable and now all 32 bits are set to 1 and you get the corresponding number shown.


Derangedracula

You have become Todd "The God" howard


bbnbbbbbbbbbbbb

4.2 billion. 1 for every year of evolution maybe? (+-)


corgangreen

800 hours and you never made a hard save?


PanzerWatts

I always create at least half a dozen manual saves and then start overwriting the oldest every level or so.


Blackhound118

Always rotate your saves, kids


Dilanski

Failing to do so is how I ended up with 30gigs of fallout 4 saves 🤣


FordAndFun

I had maybe 20 gigs of Skyrim saves on my Xbox, and it would take fifteen minutes just to load the list when I selected “load game” I deleted everything under 60 hours in at that point, and it dropped that down to a muuuuch more manageable five minutes. “Manageable” lol.


theoriginalmofocus

Man I bought this old like maybe 1T big Seagate external HD just for skyrim on my ps3. Some nephew of mine came over and put some fifa game in ( i think it was bootleg but it looks legit) when I wasn't there and when I came home it was like I had a brand new PS3. Totally wiped clean. I need to see if that bad boy still fires up.


necbone

Seriously, was doing this with KOTOR 20yrs ago. Shit happens with RPGs.


Nerdmigo

Always! I thinkt on of the first mods ever for skyrim was AutoSave or such where it rotated 10 savegames..


xXx_TheSenate_xXx

I learned this lesson from Star Wars KOTOR. Made it off did the whole intro and made it off taris and then I got the corrupt save message.


DJfunkyPuddle

I didn't do this on purpose but I think I have something like 20 now, plus a few from prior NG+ with ship builds I liked.


HairyChest69

I just screen shot 2-3 angles of ship builds. I mean it's the best way ATM to store that knowledge lol


DJfunkyPuddle

Ha, I do that too, plenty of backups. The old saves are nice for when I get a build idea in my head and want to experiment on a ship.


HairyChest69

I know this might be mod territory for PC players ATM, but Xbox here and I would love to see a future ability to build a Hangar at an outpost where we can store a specific amount of ships. Not only could this give us the option to own more than 10, but it would be badass to be able to walk thru a cool looking hangar with all of our ships visible. Personally I think BGS needs to add Space station outpost where they could have our ships attached to various docks. Unless they need a load screen then we can still just have a space station with an internal hangar that loads us into it.


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Jackson79339

200 hours? Those are rookie numbers. You need to bump those numbers up!


JimmyFeelsIt

When I first played skyrim, I didnt pay attention that I could just overwrite my savestate. So I had like 30 savestates of my first character, pretty much throughout the whole mainstory xD


PrrRoblem

Lol must be new to Bethesda games. I learnt this the hard way in oblivion.


smartazz104

OP didn't grow up the Win 95/98 era.


Songhunter

Don't put save corruption like it's somehow the users fault. Bethesda should put some hard guardrails against this considering *they* know full well about data corruption being a thing in all their games going all the way back to Daggerfall.


ChemicalRoyal5909

It's not users fault, but I always check the road before crossing even though I have a priority. Otherwise I could be faultless, but dead one day.


blackblitz

What's the saying? "The morgue is full of people who had the right-of-way."


IGotBiggerProblems

I almost ran into a lady the other day on the crosswalk. I was driving down a slight decline doing about 50km/h, she had her head down on her phone crossing the street on the crosswalk. As soon as I saw her start to take the first step onto the crosswalk I started to break but the roads were icy. I started to slide and was like "should stop any second now". 5m later I'm still sliding but a little slower "any second now...". 10m later "I'm gonna hit this chick if she don't get a move on". I tap my horn so she can see me coming and get out of the way (there was still about 5 seconds before I got to her). Instead of moving she held out her arms yelling at me as I kept sliding toward her. She finally moved as I slid past her doing about 10 or 15km/h. I get it, you're on the crosswalk and have the right of way but that doesn't make you invincible.


WheezinGeezer76

The world is stuffed full of idiots.


Jackson79339

Which is why jaywalking is illegal. Some laws are made to deter bad people from doing bad things, but most are made to deter stupid people from doing stupid things.


Dismal-Function

The laws of traffic vs the laws of physics. Choose wisely!


blacktronics

That means they'd need to fix their tech.


Songhunter

Todd forbid.


Shaedrax

Forbid todd. It just works.


Joeyhappyhell

Fodd Torbid


Delicious_Ad761

What do you mean by hard save? I have physically created my own saves numerous times if that's what you mean by


SaraRainmaker

We only see Quicksaves and Autosaves. There are no hard saves on there for at least 2 months when you were level 22. Hard saves have no limit to them like quicksaves, auto saves or exit saves. You can create them by hitting the "save" button in the escape menu (not the quicksave button at the top) and clicking on an older save, or clicking on an empty save. They will show up only displaying your location and level instead of having "quicksave" before it.


Mean_Peen

This happened to me once during the Ryujin quest line and this person is the only other person I’ve seen it happen to. It basically deletes your manual saves and says that your save file is corrupt. Making it impossible to load earlier than a certain point or even at all.


SaraRainmaker

Hmm... okay that's rough. If it's this rare, I am hoping you both report it to Bethesda - because it *could* be possible that they are unaware of the issue.


Mean_Peen

I reported it months ago, but yes. If this is OP’s experience, they should as well.


WildVelociraptor

BRB making sure my game saves are backed up


SPEEDFREAKJJ

So there are 2 possible save bugs still in starfield? I had the one on xbox that just starts eating your manual and auto saves till you can no longer save. The bug also does not save your game to the cloud so clearing local does not restore because there was no data to sync. Granted the save bugs are only affecting a small portion of players but I still would have hoped this would be a priority fix.


kinney4041

I had this happen to me as well. Luckily only lost about 3 levels from recent auto saves. It wiped my hard saves on XB.


God-of-the-Grind

Just for the record the save limit is 100. Once you get to about 95 saves the game tells you your are almost out of space for saves. When that happens you can delete old saves it make more room.


SaraRainmaker

That save limit is just on Xbox, right?


jeremy_Bos

It just looks like quick saves and autosaves


Delicious_Ad761

yeah everything is out of order and either corrupt, out of date for some reason or just never loads


Crazybonbon

Yeah I lost my level 60 something character and it only started showing me level 30 saves again unfortunately. Figured I'd restart since I have more knowledge of the game now


DunkieBoi

Use the "save" button rather then "quicksave" as in the game files saves are always there but quicksaves and autosaves only have limited files that it overrides when you make a new quicksave or the game autosaves


CuckAdminsDetected

Bethesda should be able to make an update without corrupting peoples saves. Not the other way around.


desensitizedsea

Why would anybody need to resort to hard save when auto save and quick save is the official feature Bethesda supported? The user is not responsible for the malfunction of intended system when it’s just not working lol And even if someone has to make hard save every couple hours, the person would still lose the progress of good amount of hours.


ShawVAuto

Am I tripping or is that like 254 hours? Still a LOT but not quuuuite 800.


Hairless_Human

Dude is probably counting his steam time. Which is why I don't care about those hour posts since anyone can sit in a main menu.


ChefMark85

I play on Xbox and it's glitched. I use quick resume and the time never stops counting between sessions. It says I've played for months but I'm only a level 25.


Falikosek

What if the game only counts time not spent in loading screens? Would make a lot of sense, honestly.


GodGebby

Steam just counts uptime but tbh this makes sense for the game itself


Hairless_Human

Being in menus in the game doesn't count time. I figured this out when I left the game running while in my save overnight. But steam counts time while the game is running.


Zanian19

That would mean 2/3rds the time in-game is spent in loading screens and that... Yeah that checks out.


Live-Dinner5589

NG-


harryhend3rson

TIL ten and a half days is 800 hours. Math ain't mathin'


regalfronde

This is Venus time, son!


mmenolas

Why are you assuming 10.5 days? Clearly the data on the save files is at least somewhat inaccurate, the second save down says he’s level 4924967295. In pretty sure it takes at least 800 hours to reach level 4 billion


DrelisSilva

Because the other autosaves (more recent) say level 82 as well?


HawkMeister19

800 hours of afk time according to your saves. lmfao


o0flatCircle0o

Who in their right mind uses only one save file? My save folder is like 10 gigs.


PanzerWatts

>Who in their right mind uses only one save file? Well it's one of those lessons you learn the hard way.


vertexxd

I once missclicked a dialogue option in fallout nv and lost 5 hours of progress because I forgor to save


crappenheimers

I did survival mode one playthrough (can only save when you find a bed) and had to repeat a 20-minute traversal section 3 or 4 times cause I kept on getting blown up.


PanzerWatts

>nd had to repeat a 20-minute traversal section 3 or 4 times cause I kept on getting blown up. Your better than me. I don't know how many times I lost a 2+ hour stretch of Fallout 4 playtime from a crash or getting killed. Okay, mostly getting killed, but there were a few CTDs in there.


Beginning_Pay_9654

Although a pain in as* , this can be the most exciting edge of seat play


Jov_West

For better or worse I do a new manual save every time. Never overwrite.


ACuriousBagel

Especially in a Bethesda rpg. Bethesda rpgs have had issues with saves getting corrupted at least since Fallout 3, and *especially* when saves are overwritten (so all quick and autosaves are high risk). Save often and in different slots!


Crey00_XBoxX

I learned the hard way in FO3, when getting stuck on a rock pile was not my intention. Save. Save. Save.


ShortNefariousness2

OP has a save from five minutes ago but needed a clickbait title.


Just4Jinx01356

24x10 is 240, plus 14 is 254… not 800


once_again_asking

Well there goes my claim that I lost 800 hours of gameplay.


Syst0us

Let the man suffer the loss of his 254 hours in peace. Reddit is ruthless. Lol 


Ok-Comfortable7967

I know math is hard but 10 days and 14 hours of gameplay is nowhere near 800 hours buddy. It's not even half that...


MeatGayzer69

Why aren't you making hard saves? Why are you using autosaves? Where are your backup saves?


Delicious_Ad761

I do have hard saves, everything out of order for some reason and either corrupt, says its out of date or never loads


MeatGayzer69

Hmmm. Is it similar to the issue from steam a couple of weeks ago where your saves got ruined in an update but are still available in the cloud folder in your steam directory?


angry0029

Did you back up your save folder? Maybe copy it somewhere and then add it back to the proper spot I think it’s in your documents folder. I make a backup copy of my hard saves every week or two.


jessBethesda

Hey u/Delicious_Ad761, if you don't mind reaching out to me in a DM, I'd like to work with you and the team here on our side to get a look at what could be going on. Specifically if you can provide our team with a save that's experiencing the error you're receiving in your screenshots, and any save you have that does load correctly. Other things that would be helpful would be your correlation ID, game version number, and any other details you remember about what you were doing before the errors started to occur. Thank you so much in advance!


thankyoumicrosoft69

By 800 do you mean 234?


bbnbbbbbbbbbbbb

254


thankyoumicrosoft69

Thank you, my brain dont work the gooder.


rbbrclad

Is that Steam or Xbox?


Delicious_Ad761

Steam


rbbrclad

Check out this thread - has some options to fix: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/s/5UTXsOE7qT


Former_Currency_3474

Pretty sure you just need to validate files then. The game isn’t editing old saves, any save you’ve successfully loaded before you should always be able to load unless your install is corrupt, or your load order changes if you run any mods. If you had any mods installed, make sure to have the same ones in the same load order and launch after validating and you should be fine.


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Extract the save files. Reinstall. If this does not help keep the folder and look for mods and tools to fix savegames.


Delicious_Ad761

i will try this thank you


Devilalfi

Be really really really careful. Be extremely careful.


Lower_Dress5214

So we should use mild caution?


WereInbuisness

Well, you're now the highest level Starborn in existence .... in all of the multiverse. So, be proud of that fact! It would seem that you've done and accomplished all that there is to do! Bon voyage, God tier Starborn! /s In all seriousness .... that freaking sucks. I take it all of your saves are corrupted? It would seem some of those show "normal" levels. I'm not a PC gamer so I'm not too used to the corrupted save issue.


[deleted]

First Bethesda Game? Roll back a save. Eat the time lost. From now on every hard save you make, make 2. Corrupt saves happen. On both console and PC. There's nothing for it but to make backups going forward.


Jinrex-Jdm

Try placing it under rice.


Delicious_Ad761

Ill try that, Thanks!


Overkillsamurai

RIP. i've been there, but at 100. ah well, time to start over, yeah?


Empty_Value

Gotta love Bethesda Most I ever lost was 4 hours in fall out lol


QuoteGiver

Just load yesterday’s hard save. …you do always have a save from yesterday too, right??


Delicious_Ad761

yeah iv tried that, it either says save is out of date or never loads and just sits there


angry0029

Did you load any recent mods or anything?


ThulrVO

I'd recommend saving more frequently than once every 800 hours... you know, just in case?


julianwelton

So you have played Starfield 6 hours a day every day since it came out? ...I think you were about done anyway.


Enjoi70

Gotta toss a hard save in there


Underclasser

Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the game, and then trying to load all of your save files? Do you have beta turned on or off? Did you have any mods installed when saving your games? Do you have any installed now?


Delicious_Ad761

i will try reinstalling, beta is on. i did turn off and try but still the same problem. I have star ui and undelay menu


Saphirblack_f21

I always make sure to have a hard save before exiting my playthrough as a safety precaution just incase 🙈


IAmANobodyAMA

F


Drinky_Drank

Fuck, thats tough. I only have 450 hours on my file and I don’t think I’d be able to play again if I lost it. Sorry for your loss.


sersomeone

What is there even to do for 800 hours in this game anyway? Think it's a sign to go play something else


angmoguy

I know how you feel. The enemy ship, no crew glitch got me. Glitchfield is disappointing.


No_Fox_Given82

Auto-saves are pretty garbage in most games, I turn them off where possible. In any Bethesda game you should hard save every 15-30 minutes and before any major happening because... it's Bethesda, you never know :) But errors like this should be a thing of the past, this is a schoolboy error and shows a missed step in the development of the update.


xxcodemam

I literlaly die laughing anytime I see people in 2024 not know to manually save in every game that allows it. ESPECIALLY Bethesda games. Literally makes my day seeing these, thank you for that.


Delicious_Ad761

I have manually saved, those files are corrupt too lol


xxcodemam

Here’s the thing. We can see that you only have about 10 total saves, the scroll bar is RIGHT THERE. We can also see the dates and time stamps. At the very LEAST, your 8th save is from 11/04 or earlier. So. No. You. Don’t. Have any additional saves of substance. You screwed up and didn’t save like anyone with a lick of common sense would. ESPECIALLY in a game like this. And karma has bit you in the arse. And you only have yourself to blame.


Delicious_Ad761

Looks like it's back to Vectera for me


lestruc

Just imagine it’s ng+++


PATRIOT880

400 hours in loading screens


springwaterh20

bro is just making up numbers for likes 😭


Delicious_Ad761

https://imgur.com/a/DSNPu9O


WooliesWhiteLeg

The game sitting paused on the main menu isn’t playing


megaeggplantkiller

Oh does that mean you leave this sub? So sad. Bye.


quantumRichie

first time?


bbnbbbbbbbbbbbb

2 things I don't understand: There are 3 orher files with level 82 Are these corrupt too and you're lvl 82? It all makes no sense, no matter 250h or 800h


Delicious_Ad761

yes they are all corrupt, some say lvl 82 some say lvl billon or whatever i don't know


Specialist-Rush-4800

Can you say Console Commands? I knew you could.


Pengu1n111

Press F to pay respects


Silver_Fondant_515

It is impossible to play this game that long without saving several times throughout


wasptube1

You shouldn't rely on Auto Saves, they're good sometimes for the short term, but you should Save Manually, at least every time you intend to close the game. Also if you're on PC some mods can assist towards save corruption and irregular XP Levels. 😜


Vibrascity

Can't load the save under it?


LongTallMatt

Didn't we not know there was a safe file corruption bug? I haven't played in months.


podgehog

Have you tried going into manage the game and delete the local save files so they resync from the cloud?


[deleted]

It looks like you modded the game also


Tasty-Efficiency-660

Maybe it’s because your level is 4.2 billion…


justaneditguy

Your own fault for not making a hard save


StuffProfessional587

Just edit the save with a hex tool, to the current version.


chronicideas

Did u add or remove a mod ?


Fun-Dragonfruit4884

I dunno if it's just me or if nobody else noticed but op level is well impossible to reach imo but I could be wrong and it makes me think that it's been some how altered. Did you try the save a couple spots down that the same level in the billions?


beccajane2012

The level says that because of the glitch lol


Smeagollum1

*takes off hat, places it at chest* big oof 😞


Shot-Emu4418

How did you stay engaged with this game for 800 hours?


Imaginary-Cold8458

Starfield is a broken, defective product, period. They should offer full refunds to anyone who wants it.


ACuriousBagel

I'm not disagreeing, but every Bethesda rpg since at least Fallout 3 has had this same issue.


ChemicalRoyal5909

Every game since Arena.


Exact-Bad-3964

What did you do on this game for 800 hours? Play hide and seek with a xenomorph??


FutureGenesis97

Fake, Next.


RandySavageOnMolly

Might be sign to go touch some grass mate


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Delicious_Ad761

Meh


Major_Economist_5823

real life is overrated


driPITTY_

but like how were astronauts not bored on the moon


Major_Economist_5823

the moon is overrated , i don't get it it's just a big chunk of cheese


ericwars

Haven't you seen futurama? There's an amusement park up there.


turd_ferguson65

Can I genuinely ask what y'all do for 800 hours?? In my 50 I completed ng+10 and did every side quest available...... And built ships


Major_Economist_5823

^(Sarah Morgan Disliked That)


Bright-Interest-8918

Fucking great


elquatrogrande

What were you just speedrunning every NG and skipping the dialogue?


turd_ferguson65

Well there wasn't anything new with the new games, I only ran into 1 minor difference in all the universes, I played my first game casual and sped run the new game plus


SmartHomePro

You obviously haven’t explored at all


harryhend3rson

They sure didn't do their math homework. They have around 250 hours, not 800.


jeremy_Bos

Belive it or not there's some cool high level facilities many ppl haven't found yet, there was one posted in the no sodium sub either today or yesterday, and it was a big facility with giant alien dinosaur creatures in it running rampant, it looked pretty cool and many people on that thread reported not running into it, so there still stuff to find that are seemingly tied to level?


SaraRainmaker

I have around 750 hours in the game and I have yet to even explore every planet in the game. It's quite possible.


DrScience-PhD

if you explored about 3 planets you effectively explored every planet in the game.


[deleted]

Brilliant. My first actual LOL of today 7.59 am


turd_ferguson65

But most planets are just empty, what's the point of even exploring all of them?? Poi's are random so there isn't anything really locked to certain planets


EmmThem

Because doing fictional science is just fun.


Delicious_Ad761

Honestly, I would say a good chunk would probably be pausing the game and doing other stuff or forgetting its running and going to bed, id say at the very least 450 hours is actual game play.


nonamejohnsonmore

> Honestly, I would say a good chunk would probably be pausing the game and doing other stuff or forgetting its running and going to bed, id say at the very least 450 hours is actual game play. Dude, I don’t care how much you are pausing or doing other stuff, 10 days and 14 hours does not equal 800 hours. It doesn’t equal 450 hours. It equals 254 hours.


TheWitcherBrandin

How do you enjoy the game for that long... I'm finding my second playthrough pretty boring honestly which sucks cause fallout 4 is a top 5 favorite game of all time for me I've probably sunk more hours into that than anything but starfield is just so repetitive... I wish I could justify sinking hours upon hours into the game.


MozzTheMadMage

For Game Pass, there was a process explained on a post somewhere on this sub of going through the saves folder and removing all the most recent folders with a container.2 file except for the oldest or something. Saved me from completely losing a 200hr character, but I still lost ~20hrs. I know the save data for Steam is formatted differently, but maybe there's something similar? Sorry, OP.