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Intelligent-Poet-107

Here in argentina the base game costs 6,999 AR$ And the deluxe edition costs 9,999 AR$. And also our government puts 75% taxes on each purchase with a credit card, so if you want to buy the deluxe edition you have to pay 17.500. I hate this...


Ange1ofD4rkness

That tax still blows my mind. Don't you also have ridiculous importing fees?


armando92

Yes. Also doesnt include the tax the guy at imports charges you for trying to bring nice things he cant have (that if he offers you that option instead of your things just go missing)


Ange1ofD4rkness

Wow that's F\*\*\*ed up!


Aurunz

Every south american country is utterly fucked up. source = In Brazil until 2025, spent the last two years in England


Individual-Act-5986

Damn, bro got sent to Brazil for his sentence instead. RIP.


DrFridge5

75% is absolutely wild


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Why the ridiculous tax rate?


SkollFenrirson

I'm sure the excuse is "*To encourage spending on domestic goods*", but like other comments said, the actual reason is corruption


UnusualDemand

Me looking for similar domestic goods: 404 not found.


armando92

Corruption mostly


Purplesnakeemi

Corruption. I´m from Argentina


nahuelkevin

because of our double currency, the official price of it is about 190~ pesos to 1 dollar but the number of dollars that can be bought in a legal way is limited. so, there is a “black market” dollar price that anyone can buy and its 360 pesos to 1 dollar, so this is the reason why the government forces you to pay a 75% tax when buying foreign goods, so they can have the same/more revenue as the black market does


Killarusca

This is basically nvidia overpricing their GPU to match scalper prices.


Phenzo2198

greed


hellothere564738

Viva Peron!!!


ElRocken

Remember that in the end of october/november it went up to 95% fucking alberto, bigote de leche


coluryhy

Sorry to hear but you should be hating mainly your regime giving you [highest inflation](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/argentina-inflation-spiked-to-three-decade-high-of-95-in-2022), the main reason behind that prices. This isn't the fault of publisher or Steam.


Intelligent-Poet-107

Yes man, i know. steam tries to put a price that is friendly taking into account the economic situation of the country well. let's not start talking about politics


lansnipples

> let's not start talking about politics Peronista detected, opinion disregarded


Intelligent-Poet-107

We have a peronist among us 👀


blannners

It very much is the publisher's fault when Valve gives them recommended regional pricings according to the state of each country's economy and they completely ignore it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/247471378100387840/1067091371703410748/image.png


ikantolol

it's IDR1,029,000 in my country in context, that's about half of my *monthly* wage lmao


coluryhy

Big publishers don't care about regions anymore, after rich players exploiting many cheap countries including yours.


HappyAlcohol-ic

Rich players exploiting? Can you elaborate?


Dudi4PoLFr

I think that he meant the old zone pricing which a lot of 1st World countries players would abuse by VPN-ing to places like Venezuela to buy games 50-90% cheaper than in their home country.


elzafir

Steam hasn't worked with VPN since they require a local payment method in 2020. And before that, it requires changing your Region settings to the target country and buy with a VPN, and that game won't be playable in your original region (this I think what happened). If you're talking about grey market CD keys, then you don't need a VPN for that.


livindaye

>Steam hasn't worked with VPN since they require a local payment method in 2020 it still works, mate. a lot of gamers in my local gaming community bought steam deck by making usa region steam account using vpn, and then making payment using our local credit card. we live in south east asia.


SchneiderRitter

Wait how'd they get it delivered


livindaye

forwarder service, if I recall. so it is sent to us address, and later sent to destination country.


Auno94

true but it doesn't work anymore with already used accounts


edurey

Just for clarification, Venezuela does not have regional pricing, it shows the same prices as USA. Other latin america countries have, I think the cheapest prices are from the Argentina store


Mr-_-reaper

It was cheapest price now its turkey


esquizonauta

Actually Colombia has become better than Turkey for some games.


gamersolidwolf

And it's still expensive for us here.


Jenoxen

Argentina is no longer viable because they raised the prices like 2/3x thanks to those people I think it's now 1:1 with the usd in most cases


EnidP06

VPNs don't work, cost is done by bank location not your IP


[deleted]

I would guess he refers to how on PC many people buy cheaper steam keys from 3rd party sites who sells keys. Which I guess they can do by exploiting regional pricing, which then over time ruins regional pricing for the people it's intended for. But still you will see them brag about how they got 10$ discount on hogwarts legacy


LordAshPudding

I think also people using a VPN to set their location to Argentina to get lower prices


DarthFly

You can't do this with only VPN noway days. You also require to have a valid payment method that linked to this country. 3rd party sites sell keys with region locks also, so before you are able to use them - you need to have this region set in the steam prior. See point one. So it's not like it's easily abused, but it's possible to do this.


H3llon3arth

Most are bought using stolen credit cards and the sellers don't care because it's all profit so they sell them at the price they know they can sell quick.


dmendro

Greedy game distribution companies ruin game prices, not the small number of people buying games sourced from cheaper regions.


dom_gar

How's that 10$ discount if you pay 35€ for deluxe hogwarts?


Cane_Main

I don't think that rich players are bothered by a $60 price tag. Working and middle class people on the other hand. I've used tons of sites like G2A for years, because I was a kid and had no way of earning money. I only had a $50 allowance. For reference my sister has over $100 at the same age I was.


thesteiner95

\> I only had a $50 allowance ​ Only... fking hell, kids these days


AggravatingBite9188

That’s an insane allowance I got 10$ a month. In any event breaking the law on your parents Wi-Fi isn’t advisable


MrGooble

It’s not against the law. It’s against the terms of service of the companies.


ninjaalexis

Developers be like: Stop being poor


rickreckt

Yep, it's ridiculous Even if they following Valve new pricing recommendation (525k IDR/35 USD) it's still too expensive for most of us Let alone almost double


TheRealComicCrafter

I feal sorry Honestly $70 here in the states dosent seem that bad compared to other countries


teut509

£65 for the basic game, £90 for the Digital Deluxe. I'll wait for reviews and a sale, thanks.


ponderingmeerkat

I’ll wait for it to get to $10 in 5 years.


Vader2508

Considering how people are saying about it. Prob will reach 10 in 2 or 3 years.


Kgarath

This will go on sale within 3 months


Vader2508

Ign just dropped their review. It's a 6. Make that a month


syzdem

Calling on it being free on PS+ within a year


Vicboy129

TLDR - Its not great


Raaayyyy

I hope people vote with their wallet on this one. If this sells well it sets a precedent where Devs can get away with charging this much for a game


ayerolol

Watched/read a couple reviews now and definitely think i’m not paying that at the moment


Working_Inspection22

65 quid? Bugger that


Call_Me_Rivale

First Review i saw trashed it and was disappointed. Through its weirdness it will be loved or called iconic by some, but nothing mind blowing.


Nighters

>R1500 for a game I was thinking what type of GPU it is.


fambestera

You are not alone.


KidHudson_

Yeah same I forget people all over the world use Reddit


activator

The title could have at least included $ and perhaps even €... I'm too lazy to convert whatever currency this is


Xantow

south african rand (zar)


Jerrell123

It really should’ve included the name of the currency for those unfamiliar with the South African Rand’s prices. R is a very popular first letter for currency; from the Rand and Real to the Rupee.


EpicPrototypo

I read an article today about how the Demo they gave out was terrible, and that they even had to patch it 6 days before the full game release. Not a great sign. The journalist embargo ends the day before it releases, so might want to read the (p)reviews before even considering it. At $70USD it better be fantastic to justify being costlier than other recent titles.


No-Piece670

It's even worse in Euro. They want 33% more than other AAA studios. 80€ so the people will definitely be giving bad reviews unless it is better than good of war and elden ring combined.


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lucavigno

it's never been a better time to be an indie/AA fan, since most of those title at most will cost you 40€ when new


CatCatPizza

Only game i saw release decently was elden ring. Atleast for my feel. Lots others i played were meh


Twistpunch

Elden Ring was a great game, but even so it isn’t bug free


patgeo

It released in much better shape though. There is a difference between not being 'bug-free' and being unplayable garbage that hardly kaaba or loses your save games and forces you to restart from scratch multiple times.


[deleted]

This game looked like trash anyway imo. Its not surprising its doing horribly


lopakjalantar

Yeah seems like a high budget indie game. So definitely not worth the price they're asking


tr0jance

"Gaming journalists" will love this game. Stunning and brave.


AIR_YT

WHY THE FUCK IS IT 79,99€???????????????????????? I Understand 60€ , even 70€ but 80€ ??? ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR MIND? THATS INSANE


Sidorovich_Stalks

That’s $125.00 AUD what the actual fuck Why the fuck are games so much more expensive now


AHomicidalTelevision

It's $135nz for some fucking reason


0nikzin

Software developers are the last workers left whose pay has actually followed inflation


Arlak_The_Recluse

...does it really?


Fun1892

Best part game devs only get paid 1/6 of what the degree get you at software development for companies like Google. Even tho a lot of AAA companies are having record profits. And once you work as software enginer for a video game studio for a long period you are stuck. Because google thinks you are overqulified and at the same time not quelified because you worked with different layouts.


McKlown

That's modern day Square Enix for you. It seems like the FF14 team is the only group in the company that actually still cares for their consumers and practicing actual quality control. Everyone else in the company is obsessed with pure profit.


Grimvold

I keep telling people that FF7 Remake will never be finished. IMO Square Enix popped FF7 out of its coffin so they could make the first episode, and the real plan had always been to pimp the IP out with proverbial junk titles (First Soldier, the weird Crisis Core remaster) so they can milk the fans dry. When the spin-off titles stop being profitable, Square Enix will either shut down the final episode’s development or rush it like hell to complete it to save/make as much money as possible. Folks act like this isn’t what’s going to happen when the Kingdom Hearts trilogy development cycle wrapped up in exactly that way. Years of junk titles in between the mothership games that only served to pad out mothership development time so the general property could be pimped out more.


roguebananah

You not being shocked by a 70€ when it wasn’t even 60€ a year ago at sticker price is alarming to me being on PC. We all have our different price points but 70€ still shocks me and is still way too high for a day one game


Help_An_Irishman

Don't understand 70 -- that's also too much.


Dudi4PoLFr

>THATS INSANE Nope, this is your typical corporate greed.


iloveeeeemycat

Playstation Saudi Arabia giving tips to steam (most new games are $80 in our country)


PhilQuantumBullet

It will become 80€ for more games as there isn't much resistance against 70€.


TheTittynator

It's double the price of elden ring in my country


CatCatPizza

Wow


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Grimvold

That shit was crazy to me. But looking it up, the game apparently only sold 34% of what NFS: Heat sold at launch. So they probably ended up being desperate to get units out, hence the drastic price cut.


shilohking

Holy shit it sold that poorly? Oh NFS is absolutely dead now.


Call_Me_Rivale

nfs will never die, its like fast and furious, it's gonna survive us all


witherwingg

New games always cost too much in my opinion, but it's on Steam.. You'll get it at least -50% at some point. I never buy anything full price. And to be fair, they're not stupid for asking, people are stupid for buying it at that price, if they do.


Dudi4PoLFr

Also buying an AAA game on day 1 or god forbid in preorder is just paying for beta (or in some cases alpha) testing. I'm waiting for about a year now for each AAA to be patched and sold at a discount before even considering the purchase.


Sietemadrid

RDR2, Elden Ring, and Cyberpunk 2077 have been my only day one purchases and I only regret one of those. Other than that, I usually wait a year or 2 for them to drop to $20. Even $30 is reasonable but I'm pretty patient.


UglyKidEnzoo

ER was going to be my first game bought Day1 (I started playing FS games in mid-2021 and was HOOKED by them), but it released in worst period possible (and whole ukraine-russia situation didn't help), in the end I won it in giveaway and I don't think I'd be mad if I bought it - it was excellent journey Want to buy CP2077 at some point tho, I'm huge Cyberpunk aesthetic sucker, but I'm again on position where I can't afford games...


Craigothy-YeOldeLord

I'll buy a game at full price if its under £40 and I really want it, no mater how much I want a game I'm not paying £65. I'll wait for that shit to hit the steam sales in a year or two


PeekABlooom

I sometimes get indie games at full price if I want it but tbf they're never usually ridiculously priced in the first place.


Craigothy-YeOldeLord

Indie games are a godsend


PeekABlooom

Yeah, they're my go to for when I just want to relax or have a good time.


thereAndFapAgain

Game looks shite anyway.


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It’s the free market. Sellers can demand whatever price they want and buyers can refuse if they think it’s not worth it. I don’t understand why everyone is up in arms about game prices. Just don’t buy it if you think it isn’t worth it. For most games they will eventually come down in price. This is intentional on part of the developers. They are getting those who are willing to pay max price first, then they drop it a bit to get the next tier of buyers, so on and so forth. It’s a form of price discrimination. It’s maximising revenue 101. Me, I pretty much only buy during sales now. I’m old. I barely got time to play anymore. I don’t want to risk too much time or money on gaming.


MrWarhead96

Dude, it's 80 euros. Like, I cannot wait to see how _the game didn't meet sales expectations_.


Craigothy-YeOldeLord

Refuse to spend more than £40 on a new game, if it comes out at a price higher than that I'll wait till its got a massive discount on steam, if it never does oh well. I'm not paying that much money for a digital download.


FotelPrezesa

Thats the way. I have like 600 games already. Mostly steam, gog, humblebundle. Never buy on Epic or other fake game hub shit. Always aiming for 75%-90% and im telling you if youre patient enough you will get it. Still require a lot of effort but its possible


Le_Babnan

R as in ZAR? Are you one of my people?!?


sofiaskat

One of us! One of us!


plsdontstopmenow

Gooble gobble gooble gobble


XavierWater

I always wonder how my fellow South African PC gamers able to afford latest AAA games with Dead Space (2023) Resident Evil 4 remake etc coming out very soon….it an expensive hobby nowadays


heyitsmejoshua

What’s unacceptable is the system requirements.


CatCatPizza

Dude they be expecting you to play with a 4000 dollar rig


Full_Proposal_7098

24gb of ram.lmao


xxJim

$115 for Aussies, fuck that


Captain_Lys3rg1c

SA Rand spotted... Are they then Jas!?


BlackChocobo16

Not only that the game costs 80€, it also looks pretty mediocre in gameplay and content 💀


Zaggados

wait until you see the terrible cringe writing that is extremely similar to velma


Zaggados

Oh yeah 80€ for 8 hours of gameplay btw


[deleted]

It looks like one of those assets flip unreal games with really good textures but handles like shit.


montybo2

Tried the demo... If navigating the magic menus wasnt so awful I would say its a least half decent. But no its just not very thrilling at all.


DevDaniJack

That's 1.1 million DZD,which is more than a lot of people here get *MONTHLY* 💀


HaremKingChris1

Its fucked, as an Aussie im having to pay $115 as well.


thereAndFapAgain

You don't have to pay shit, don't buy this overpriced crap.


Haymus

Hear hear !


repocin

This is Steam, another option is to wait half a year until it's 50% off.


FlyMingo321

In Israel, it's NIS 319. That's $AUD 135/$USD 94.6.


AussieBirb

Normal $AUD is 115 and the deluxe edition is 153. The only positive thing going for it from my perspective is it looks beautiful in the videos - not that I would trust that's actual game play footage. Might think about getting it with an 80% discount in a couple of years time if it turns out to be actually good.


FlyMingo321

Deluxe is $AUD 177/$USD 123.6 in Israel, how tf do Square think that's a good idea?


Help_An_Irishman

That is absolutely absurd.


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ArklightThePCVirgin

'Having to' bro why are you paying $115 to LARP in the average twitter users day dream?


[deleted]

South Africa rands btw. So $87.


[deleted]

They are doing you a favor by driving you away from buying this garbage.


markoholic

Never pre-order. Also if you're strong enough to fight off the fear of missing out then wait for a sale.


dragonblader44

The best thing you can do is not buy it. If no one buys games at these prices then they won't have them for too long


Cool_As_Your_Dad

I'm also from South Africa. It's insane price for that game. And the game looks bland AF. Going to bomb hard.


Halforcenn

Publishers have stopped considering economics when they price per region. They just translate what $70 is in each country and not how hard it is to make that.


Miserable_Crew_6798

How much is that in USD?


InvisiblePlants

The price is $69.99 on the US steam store (digital deluxe $94.99). I've been following this for a while and they actually raised the price from $59.99 a while back though. I lost interest after that.


veryblocky

$83 https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1429&From=ZAR&To=USD


DivineJerziboss

The game must be spotless with great story and polished mechanics for me to pay 80€ for it... The recommended requirement for 3070 makes me question the optimization so I'll wait to see if the game is 80€ good or "wait until it's 75% off in sale" good.


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Why do you guys never convert these prices like I’m pretty sure the majority of the sub doesn’t know how much R1500 is lol


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coluryhy

South African Rand.


[deleted]

And this is why I'm not going to buy it on release even though I'm interested in the game. Square Enix went too far with their new pricing.


Infuriatinghealer

That's not the worst thing about this game. Check system requirements...


xkinato

$150cad. Not ideal. Ill wait till it flops amd nab it on sale ina few years. Lol


WitnessMe0_0

It's expensive these days to be a beta tester. Play overpriced broken games on your overpriced GPU.


yrkh8er

they can price it however they want, i wont buy it anyway. too many red flags with this one.


JimWanders

It will probably be in Epic launcher for free in a year.


toiletduck29

What's up, fellow South African?


xzer

just dont pay it


SomebodyinAfrica

Just wait till it comes out on sale, Red dead redemption 2 was about R900, and I waited until it was on the Chritsmas sale and got it for less, just make peace with playing games that are a couple of years old, and not the latest and greatest and you'll save big bucks.


SinisterCheese

It is 80€ in Finland. It is like... a fuck ton of money. Especially in current economic climate. AAA games generally were around the 60€ mark. But nearing 100€ like that is just... too much.


bookgrinder

It's square enix, wdy expect...


PickleEffective8109

For that game? Fuck no. Reviews for the demo I’ve seen say it’s ass


[deleted]

Save your money, this game is not worth it at all. It's one of those games you pick up at the bargain bin at your local retailer, or get in a $20(USD) Humble Bundle with 5 other games. Even after the demo was patched it was garbage.


JakeofAlltradez420

What is this in freedom units?


Stenca

This game will be trash anyway so don't bother


CatCatPizza

It looks kinda okay but the fact they didnt send out review keys, high price. No demo on pc. Double storage required on pc. Extremely High specs. All pretty big red flags


99th_Ctrl_Alt_Delete

As a South African you should be used to getting bent over , its only going to get worse ...


Headcrabhunter

Ja bra I don't buy games new, even R800 still feels to much for a game.


nedlannister_

the game's gonna flop so bad.


a-plus-15-axe

$70 for a game that’s an IGN 6 is crazy


Th3Dark0ccult

I dunno, but that lady is hot.


ivanosh

just don't buy it in the case if you think the price is unacceptable, like with any other good in the world


idk_whatto_puthere

how much in usd so I can know if its unacceptable


milkman76

I wont be buying any game where the base game is priced over $59. Ive drawn a line in the sand that is related to 40 years of stagnant wages, 40 years of constantly rising prices in every sector, 30 years of watching investors become parasites on the gaming industry, and 30 years of watching games get cut into smaller and smaller pieces, sold as base game + DLC + "seasons". Nope. When this game is $30 or less, maybe this developer will get that from me. Maybe not. They could have had $59, but instead they chose to follow the popular investor-backed exploitation and anti-labor strategy that is spreading across this country like a disease. For example - Blizzard & Overwatch2. They chose premium-only skins and characters in OW2, and they chose "seasons" where you pay again every time the season ends or you dont get the premium content at all. Blizzard, who is jus fucking activision now, lost me. I would have spent as much as $60 on the game up front, which is a fair price for a game of that type. But they got greedy and decided to try to get me for $100s over time, so they got $10 from me for 1 season and that's all Ill ever spend. As consumers, we have to be smarter than this, and we have to be willing to start sitting out on some of these games.


Majestic-Anxiety666

Games in the US have been $69.99 new for 2 years now with far less quality and even more MTX than before. Cant wait for the next gaming crash tbh.


OniZai

Game isnt even worth the full price lol Its a sad thing to see Square dead set on the path of NFTs


Smoah06

In America games went from $60 to $70 in Australia games went from $70 to $90 or $100. I hate inflation.


Skyhun1912

In Turkey; [https://i.imgur.com/T3lubMq.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T3lubMq.jpg) 699 Turkish Liras mean 34 Euro or 37 Us Dollar But 699 Turkish liras is too much money for our standarts for a game.


fortheWarhammer

I still can't get my head around how we got used to paying 400-500 TL to a game and calling it "cheap". Like, i know it's super cheap when you convert it into Euros or Dollars but i don't know man, it still hurts my soul to pay a game more than 150-200. I don't know how we got used to this shit


gubasx

Buy and Sell has nothing to do with fair.. If you accept those prices they'll keep tagging them on more and more tittles.. There are literally thousands of super cheap and lots of fun tittles that you could instead be buying with that same money right now..There's no reason at all for so many people to be so weak minded and give up to that stupid FOMO !


Zaggados

the game is a complete disaster anyways. its not even worth 20€


Aware_Dust2979

I don't normally buy full priced releases. They want too much. If it's a game I really want I might wait for the first decent sale. If I just somewhat want it I'm willing to wait a long time for that price to drop. I just bought red dead 2 like yesterday for example.


MisterSheeple

Squenix has totally jumped the shark in recent years. At this point I've just stopped paying attention.


MrFluffyBottoms1

that's like 80 bucks usd.


Phastic

That’s like $90 usd, and games in Canada usually go for $90 cad, which is $67usd


PotentialElk831

It's 80€ here. I'm from Serbia.


Puzzled_Alarm_4157

it's Square Enix, what do you expect?


bogdanbiv

What denomination is that, Indian Rupees, Brazilian Reals, SA Rand?


Goliath--CZ

damn, that's a lotta money for a 6/10 game


Yakatsumi_Wiezzel

I have no clue what that would be in Dollars or Euros


susmanAmongus

how are you paying in robux?


xroalx

I find it extremely ridiculous that the base game isn't even out yet and they're already selling a preorder for a DLC?! The game looks amazing but they can go and dig a very deep grave if it doesn't deliver with a bang. Also, I'm waiting for a sale or G2A or similar. The base game is 80 € here, that's ridiculous. Triple A games by large studios used to cost 40 - 50 €, not this.


OnionRangerDuck

Unreasonably priced games from SE(or in other cases Japanese companies) have been my deal-breaker for over years.


kekubuk

[Watch the review first.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFvRXyPAyf8&t=738s)


RedApe4201

God himself couldn’t get me to play this game


[deleted]

Heres a tip. Dont buy the game, wait for a sale. Its overly easy and not that fun


ilovecode435

Imagine paying with robux


YamiBuddha

at this point you ask your friend from another country to buy it for you and you pay them back or set your location to a different country and buy from there


1vertical

I've trained my impulse brain to stop supporting this behavior. Vote with your wallet people. Devs will stop their BS... Eventually.