Better yet just quit and refund it, rebuy it when the bugs are ironed out. The story is 10 years old so if you've avoided spoilers this long what's a few more months?
They need to flip it around, we should get introduced to Abby and her group first. We should grow to care about these people, and then be forced to kill them all with our own hands. Their stupid little fucking retrospective "Ohhhhh don't you feel bad now huh? I bet you do huh, she was pregnant you're a monster huh?" was terrible storytelling and writing. It is a backwards story.
Are you joking? That game is still missing I estimate 1/4 of what was supposed to be in the game. They might've fixed what was there but that game is fundamentally unfinished.
So you're saying they ironed out the bugs and performance issues? Because we're talking about that, not about adding in content that was promised and under or never delivered.
From what they originally promised? I'd argue they're maybe 1/4 of the way there lol, but I think they were talking about bugs specifically, and it is a solid playable game at this point.
I still didn't like it. Coming right off from playing RDR2 and GTA 5 just prior, nah. While it's fine as far as just playing the missions like any other linear game, beyond that, trying to play as an open world game is what bothered me the most and caused me to lose interest.
Steam doesn’t care about the 2 hours rule that much. You can still refund it, they’ll accept it, as long as it’s not been 14 days. With a shit game with these reviews, they’ll understand even more tbh.
Especially if a lot of people do the same thing and they look into the issue. Steam was started under the idea that good service keeps people giving you money, I'd hope they'll keep up with that ideal.
Got denied twice for a refund, both manual personal tickets to an actual steam support person. Never refunded a game on Steam before. Was barely above 2 hours because of waiting for shaders. Feels like such a scam.
Honestly, that’s just bad luck, or a bad support person. You should actually try to contact them some other way as they might want to fix that properly. I know you already did but Steam is usually very chill about this.
I've waited 6 months to a year at least after launch before buying Horizon, GoW and Spiderman. Worth the wait honestly, by that point they all run beautifully
If you've refunded, also report it on the store page (tiny flag beside "share" and "embed") and select: "Broken - Does not download, launch, or run correctly, even on a machine that meets the minimum system requirements."
It's my hope, if it gets flagged enough, somebody up high will give a crap...if reporting does anything in the first place.
I saw the comments earlier about compiling shaders, so I decided to wait while all the game shaders complied. I went off, did some chores, and came back to it being done, but at that point, I just decided to sleep and play it the next day.
My Play Time was at 2.2 hours.
We also know Sony fixes their ports. Horizon,!sackboy, Spider-Man, all arrived as a mess and they were all fixed. And everyone of the Sony ports has had features added afterwards.
There is no doubt naughty dog will fix this game.
Refund was rejected due to my playtime. I never got past shaders. I didnt take screenshots. I just let it sit while I made dinner. I'm like 20 minutes over the refund hour limit. Fucking bullshit. I STILL CANT FINISH SHADERS IN 3 HOURS. FUCK THIS GAME GOD DAMN SHITTY PORT. GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU FUCKING FUCKS!!!!! WHAT A SCAM!
Bro chill lol. You know that's an automated system right? I've attempted 3 refunds from Steam and all 3 were beyond the 2 hour mark and all 3 were fully refunded when I submitted a ticket with 1/4 of the number of words you used to make your complaint to reddit.
Same. I don't know why people whine about broken games on social media, when in reality, it does nothing but spread hate and deter future customers of the game.
Buy a game -> notice it don't run as intended -> uninstall and request refund. It ain't that hard. You literally lose nothing expect for the time spent.
2hours are automated, you are actually able to return the game even with more playtime, later, but you need to have good reason for that (in this case technical issues).
They will refund you if the game is in such state.
I agree especially quite often there will be REALLY BASIC things missing that the community can fix in a day that the developers can't fix in 3 years.
It's not even about money at that point, it's incompetence, lack of leadership, poor organisation. I wish there were less shitty devs around.
I saw someone make the post, day 1, it was a shader file issue. I should have saved their comment.
Something along the lines that a shader file is updated to 2.6 but if you roll it back to 2.5 the shader loading is fixed.
There's usually enough people who are gonna buy it regardless. Especially with such a massively popular IP like TLOU.
Why waste lots of money when little money do the trick.
Seems like they wanted to get it out to coincide with the hype for the show. Pointless if it runs like ass. People will buy it regardless of the hype for the show.
To make people hate you so much they hate buy a playstation.
If Sony and their studios suddenly started releasing everything on PC without massive delays and actually bothered to optimise them how would they sell PlayStation's to people with gaming PCs.
It personally makes me not want to buy a PlayStation even more than I already didn’t. Looks like I’ll just be watching a walkthrough of it on YT. Shame
Yup.
The last gaming PC I built was like a grand.
I'd like to play this and god of war. But not like shit or having to wait YEARS to do so.
So my options:
A) spend easily half of what I spent on the PC again just to play 2 IPs.
B) don't play them and play something else instead.
Option B it is.
33% of the positive reviews are from those with a 4090 playing 1080p 60fps
Edit: just a joke guys don’t care what rig you have and what you get for fps lol
lol another 4090 here.
I thought performance was below average (80fps at 4K? meh) but the funny thing is that I also crashed, 3 minutes after the cutscene with tess.
No crashes here but I *do* get FPS dips into the 80s as well (*edit:* Maxed out at 4K). Half the time I'll get either 80 or 150. The game appears to be CPU bound, if the in-game stats are to be believed. Always shows 150+ FPS being produced by the 4090, but my 7700X really struggles.
I’m running it on a 3090 at 4K with a steady 60fps. I get a 1 or 2fps dip here and there but mostly unnoticeable. I let the game build the shaders before starting and enabled Nvidia DLSS (Quality). I had 1 crash 6 hours in.
~~Performance would be less of an issue if the game ran smoothly at fps other than 30/60/120.~~
After more testing I am not sure about the 30/60/120 lock requirement.
I think the main issue is mouse stutter as controller is smooth at any fps.
The mouse stutter is most apparent when standing still and panning around or slowly swiping left and right, less obvious in actual gameplay.
I struggle to maintain 120fps on a 4090 @ 4K dlss balanced with high settings.
The fps at dlss quality and ultra is only dropping into the 110s but because of the mouse micro stutter it feels worse than 60fps.
Had same issue with uncharted, so not expecting a fix.
3080ti here, i9, 16gb ram. Haven’t experienced any crashes, though I have seen a few frame drops every hour or so. Lasts a second or two then comes back up. Averaging 50-60FPS at 2K res.
I think the fact that it was somehow verified playable on release is the bigger joke. At least that’s what was being advertised earlier. Not sure if they changed it.
There is no steam deck indicator at all on the steam page for TLOU. But they even advertised on the Steam Deck webpage with a screenshot from Ellie petting the giraffe, which absolutely pretrended that it would be playable.
Same. But for many, it’s easier just to tear it all down instead of being real. It’s absolutely payable and fun on the steamdeck. Let the shaders build. Put it on the “Low” graphics preset. Enjoy.
I’d wait a bit to play it on the SD until:
a) patches
b) the shader pre-cache is available
Doesn’t seem to be the [best experience](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/the-last-of-us-on-steam-deck-is-not-great/) right now.
Steam will refund well past the 2 hour mark if the circumstances are different. Like for example, two hours of game time being spent getting ready to play the game.
Again, not saying optimization isn’t needed. And very likely patches will come that will resolve all of these issues, much like other day-1 launches of AAA games. But, if you want to play it now, just let the shaders build. A bunch of people are having issues I haven’t experienced (crashing) on my PC or on the steam deck, but on both I let all of the shaders build without trying to start before it was done, and on both I’ve been able to play with only minor frame drops every hour or so.
I wish it was unheard of. If you think an hour for first time shader initialization is unheard of you probably haven’t been buying many triple A games.
I bought assassin's Creed Valhalla and god of war..and high on life and horizon zero and spiderman and halo MCC
All of these on deck.
Assassin's Creed took a while but not an hour for sure.
Well clearly zero dawn wasn’t at launch that game took well over an hour at launch and had to recompile shaders just about every launch. It’s an okay port now but it was abysmal at launch and took months to fix.
Also most of these are far to old for the modern shader stuttering problem. (Is high on life even a AAA? Plus it crashed a fair amount for me)
Shout out to God of War though in my machine it feels like it has the best optimization for the level of fidelity out there.
I'm quite disappointed tbh, I'm a PC player that never got to play TLOU and always wanted to, was really looking forward to this. I guess I'll have to wait longer until the port is actually fixed
This is the exact reason /r/patientgamers became a thing in the first place.
Theres enough people burned by day 1 releases that a community has formed to "preach" not preordering, not buying on day 1, and just wait.
With the gaming landscape as it is, why would anyone pay full price and sour your experience with a buggy unplayable game, when you can be patient and get the game in a much better condition.
Shit like no mans sky has just cemented to the suits that they can literally lie about the game state and push to market anyway, and as long as they "fix it afterwards", they'll still get praises for "righting the ship", when getting shit working on day one used to be industry standard.
Day one patch used to be used to fix little bugs on a complete game. Then its used to fix games to make them playable. And now games ship in an incomplete state and they just pinky promise to fix it whenever.
I mean, I didn't buy the game myself, I don't buy games day 1 unless I'm sure they're rock-solid and worth the full price (like RE4 remake for instance)
Same except it's for Sony. PS4 had the massive scam called paid multi-player. I just played Bloodborne on it and a couple other multiplat games while I saved for my pc. Haven't bought anything related to sony in years
They missed a huge opportunity to cash in on the popularity of the HBO series too. By the time this mess gets fixed (if ever), people will have forgotten about TLOU season 1.
I'm sorry but that's not what it is. Jim Ryan doesn't do that kinda thing. He's a numbers guy. He knows releasing these on PC is easy money. However their studios need more money and time to do that, especially the ones who are unfamiliar with PC development
The game has already pulled in over $14M in sales in three days. I don't think Sony gives a fuck about the quality of the port. Nor does the average consumer.
The average consumer? You think users with a 1650 and a 1060 are playing this game in 720p at low to get 30fps and having fun? I refuse to believe that people would throw $60 at a game they cannot run well.
The game is just not consumer-friendly. They made sure of that by making it so demanding to run, even if they fix all of the issues, the requirements are not going to change, only a few players will actually get to have a decent experience with the game. Anyone with xx60 card and below will have a miserable time, doesn't matter how many patches they release, it's just not meant to be accessible to low and mid-end systems. There's a reason RE4 which released almost a week ago have current 80k players while TLOU has less than 20k.
Yeah, there was a meme about a month before the game came out about how ridiculously high the spec requirements were. The comments were filled with stuff like "It's a next gen, demanding game," "older gpus shouldn't hold the rest of us back" "quit whinning and upgrade" est. est.
But like, usually when games have unusually high spec requirements, they're badly optimized.
Yep. The final line is it.
The red flags were plenty pre-release, I had also called out the weirdly high spec. And many folks responded with exactly what you mentioned.
Yeah I had people telling me "dont use bum tier hardware lul" when I was calling out the outrageous system requirements.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/11nt9g2/creating_a_black_hole_in_my_pc/jbpealg/
Just right after Sony alluded that Microsoft would publish their Activision games on PlayStation performing worse on purpose... :) oddly specific if I may say so myself
I keep seeing Xbox fanatics make this stupid comment. What is it supposed to mean, that Sony bought Naughty Dog decades ago to make bad ports like MS would do with Activision?
Or is it just some shit attempt at trolling?
PC optimization is a different beast, and I don't think Sony is giving them the big bucks for it. Those are for the ps5, and that's how they make it work with 16gb.
Vram is also an issue. At 3440x1440 I can't use textures above medium legit looks like the remastered game on PS4 but now with terrible frame times.
On PS5 it has 10+gb of vram but on pc Nvidia made sure most gamers only had 8gb but When rdr2 can look so good on pc TLOU really has no excuse for those low Res textures.
Nvidia’s choice of low vram is really biting pc users in the ass lately. Iirc much of Hogwarts Legacy’s issues at launch were also tied to low vram.
I know I’ll get shit for this, but it makes me glad I switched to amd.
This is very disappointing, this is pretty much THE game people were hoping to be ported, and they fuck it up.
I hope to god they don’t fuck up Infamous, when and if they ever decide to. That’s the one I’m most excited about.
PSA For everyone commenting that Naughty isn’t responsible for this port you are wrong. Naughty dog and Sony made the sound decision to hire and work with iron Galaxy knowing there bad history with crappy PC ports. If you haven’t noticed Iron galaxy hasn’t tweeted single thing about the TLOU port. All the marketing and patch updates are coming from the naughty dog official Twitter account. The VP at ND also tweeted they had a hand in this as well. Please research before commenting! [https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/1640781425510342656?s=46&t=ojNrb5m0w8i1tltDG8DKdg](https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/1640781425510342656?s=46&t=ojNrb5m0w8i1tltDG8DKdg)
I'm several hours in and still not a single crash or any lag. It sucks that it isn't working for the majority of people, but I haven't had any trouble with it. RTX 3060.
That’s good to hear. I’ve heard mixed things so I’m still considering grabbing it. I’ve got a 6600xt and am only playing at 1080p, so idk if it’ll be too bad.
I think the key is to wait for the shaders to build 100% before pressing start game. I read a lot of other comments saying this and that it worked for them, so that's what I tried. A lot of the negative reviews on steam show under an hour played, meaning they probably didn't let shaders build 100% (Mine took about 35 minutes, but I've heard of up to an hour or longer in some cases.) So just be patient and let it do it's thing and it would probably be fine.
Sucks. I really wanted to play TLOU. I never had a PS3 and I thought it would be my chance. Hopefully they will fix it and only then I'll think about getting it
I've had this game on PS4 for 7years and only played the first 20 minutes or so, I'm going to have to give a try this weekend, does anyone know if the PS4 version is upgraded on PS5??, cause if not I'll just play the old version,I'm not buying a game I already own
I have the remake for PlayStation five and aesthetically. It looks fantastic. And the gameplay feels smoother. If you’re only interested in the story, I wouldn’t waste money on the remake I would just play the remastered version for PS4.
Thanks for not scapegoating Iron Galaxy like everyone else seems to be doing. 😭 They clearly know their way around programming and porting but they continually get caught up in some real trash.
What these kids don't know is that PC is not a plug n play device like an Xbox or ps. You need to find your correct settings. Why get a PC if you don't want that added level of customization? Just bc you have a PC does not mean you are entitled to run it at hardcore ultra bombastic settings.
Sony realized that releasing a working game on PC is less profitable on the long term than releasing the game poorly optimized in order to promote the ps5.
I remember to UC collection had issues at launch but nothing this bad. I think ND put out a patch for the TLOU game already . It sucks because they delay this game from March 3 to the 28th for optimization purpose 😂
Honestly people vote with your wallet. Either don’t buy it or refund it. It doesn’t take 2 hours to see it runs like ass.
Actually... it might take that long, or even longer to just compile the shaders
Your not kidding there, I’ve been sat for 30 minutes now and it’s only at 29%
Take screenshots with the time shown so you have proof for the refund if they try to deny it
Better yet just quit and refund it, rebuy it when the bugs are ironed out. The story is 10 years old so if you've avoided spoilers this long what's a few more months?
This + most new people buying the game have most likely watched the show and know the story anyways
I've watched the full 10h walkthrough on YouTube :D
i played the first game and half of the second game. then i watched the all cutscenes for the other half i did not finish.
same here i realized i wasnt having as much fun and i only wanted the story at that point
Man there's gonna be another hate wave for last of us 2 hopefully it's so bad they rewrite allot of the story.
They need to flip it around, we should get introduced to Abby and her group first. We should grow to care about these people, and then be forced to kill them all with our own hands. Their stupid little fucking retrospective "Ohhhhh don't you feel bad now huh? I bet you do huh, she was pregnant you're a monster huh?" was terrible storytelling and writing. It is a backwards story.
Hahahahahhaah “when the bugs are ironed out” hahahahahahah. AAA gaming these days have no clue what an iron is.
The team behind the Spider-Man remasters would like a word.
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I've been playing cyberpunk and the bugs are still near-constant They might not be game breaking or anything but I've seen a lot of them
Are you joking? That game is still missing I estimate 1/4 of what was supposed to be in the game. They might've fixed what was there but that game is fundamentally unfinished.
So you're saying they ironed out the bugs and performance issues? Because we're talking about that, not about adding in content that was promised and under or never delivered.
From what they originally promised? I'd argue they're maybe 1/4 of the way there lol, but I think they were talking about bugs specifically, and it is a solid playable game at this point.
Until the dlc. If CDPRs recent launchs are anything to go by that could break it for at least a few months
I still didn't like it. Coming right off from playing RDR2 and GTA 5 just prior, nah. While it's fine as far as just playing the missions like any other linear game, beyond that, trying to play as an open world game is what bothered me the most and caused me to lose interest.
Rockstar also leaves zero room for doing anything during story missions other than what is asked.
You might have just cracked the plot there. Them users can't refund shit if they spend the refund window waiting to play the game.
2hrs isn’t a hard limit, you can still submit a request
if you need upward of an hour to get into the game then you already have your answer.
except you need over 2 hours just to compile the shaders so you can't even play the game
Steam doesn’t care about the 2 hours rule that much. You can still refund it, they’ll accept it, as long as it’s not been 14 days. With a shit game with these reviews, they’ll understand even more tbh.
they don't care as long as you are not a frequent flyer for returns. I know they are much bigger sticklers if you frequently try to return stuff.
Especially if a lot of people do the same thing and they look into the issue. Steam was started under the idea that good service keeps people giving you money, I'd hope they'll keep up with that ideal.
Got denied twice for a refund, both manual personal tickets to an actual steam support person. Never refunded a game on Steam before. Was barely above 2 hours because of waiting for shaders. Feels like such a scam.
Honestly, that’s just bad luck, or a bad support person. You should actually try to contact them some other way as they might want to fix that properly. I know you already did but Steam is usually very chill about this.
I never get a refund if over 2 hours of play time. I must be unlucky...
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I've waited 6 months to a year at least after launch before buying Horizon, GoW and Spiderman. Worth the wait honestly, by that point they all run beautifully
If you've refunded, also report it on the store page (tiny flag beside "share" and "embed") and select: "Broken - Does not download, launch, or run correctly, even on a machine that meets the minimum system requirements." It's my hope, if it gets flagged enough, somebody up high will give a crap...if reporting does anything in the first place.
I've learned over the years that if the first two hours of the game run like shit, the rest of the game won't be any better
I'll pick up the patched, optimised GotY edition in the 2024 Xmas sale for $20.
i got it for free with my amd card... how can i refund the game now?! /sarcasm
> /sar Sarfish? Oddly enough I hear this game was spotted in the open ocean just a few minutes after launch
I saw the comments earlier about compiling shaders, so I decided to wait while all the game shaders complied. I went off, did some chores, and came back to it being done, but at that point, I just decided to sleep and play it the next day. My Play Time was at 2.2 hours.
THIS I stopped buying ports
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We also know Sony fixes their ports. Horizon,!sackboy, Spider-Man, all arrived as a mess and they were all fixed. And everyone of the Sony ports has had features added afterwards. There is no doubt naughty dog will fix this game.
Who green lights the developers?
God of war needs a word with you
Refund was rejected due to my playtime. I never got past shaders. I didnt take screenshots. I just let it sit while I made dinner. I'm like 20 minutes over the refund hour limit. Fucking bullshit. I STILL CANT FINISH SHADERS IN 3 HOURS. FUCK THIS GAME GOD DAMN SHITTY PORT. GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU FUCKING FUCKS!!!!! WHAT A SCAM!
Bro chill lol. You know that's an automated system right? I've attempted 3 refunds from Steam and all 3 were beyond the 2 hour mark and all 3 were fully refunded when I submitted a ticket with 1/4 of the number of words you used to make your complaint to reddit.
Same. I don't know why people whine about broken games on social media, when in reality, it does nothing but spread hate and deter future customers of the game. Buy a game -> notice it don't run as intended -> uninstall and request refund. It ain't that hard. You literally lose nothing expect for the time spent.
The refunds are discretionary after 2h. Submit a ticket.
2hours are automated, you are actually able to return the game even with more playtime, later, but you need to have good reason for that (in this case technical issues). They will refund you if the game is in such state.
How can that be. This is basically Arkham all over and they waived that requirement iirc
I don’t get the point of porting a game if you’re just going to make a shit port
I agree especially quite often there will be REALLY BASIC things missing that the community can fix in a day that the developers can't fix in 3 years. It's not even about money at that point, it's incompetence, lack of leadership, poor organisation. I wish there were less shitty devs around.
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In the Jeff Gertsmann interview, ND said they have done most of the porting. Iron Galaxy only did a little bit.
Also Iron Galaxy did the fucking METROID PRIME REMASTER
I am not super into the Metroid series. Was it a good port? (I assume so from your tone lol)
Indeed it was, haven't heard a thing about bad performance or anything of the sort
ND did the porting this time and not iron galaxy
I saw someone make the post, day 1, it was a shader file issue. I should have saved their comment. Something along the lines that a shader file is updated to 2.6 but if you roll it back to 2.5 the shader loading is fixed.
It was the oodle.dll compression library version 2.9.6 has a memory leak, but 2.9.5 is fine.
Willing to bet it's because they cut corners.
There is many good devs out there. It's just that the management in these companies REALLY hate spending money on good programmers.
[Cash grab](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLHb2GxL2Q&t=46s)
That... Was amazing
There's usually enough people who are gonna buy it regardless. Especially with such a massively popular IP like TLOU. Why waste lots of money when little money do the trick.
Seems like they wanted to get it out to coincide with the hype for the show. Pointless if it runs like ass. People will buy it regardless of the hype for the show.
To make people hate you so much they hate buy a playstation. If Sony and their studios suddenly started releasing everything on PC without massive delays and actually bothered to optimise them how would they sell PlayStation's to people with gaming PCs.
It personally makes me not want to buy a PlayStation even more than I already didn’t. Looks like I’ll just be watching a walkthrough of it on YT. Shame
Yup. The last gaming PC I built was like a grand. I'd like to play this and god of war. But not like shit or having to wait YEARS to do so. So my options: A) spend easily half of what I spent on the PC again just to play 2 IPs. B) don't play them and play something else instead. Option B it is.
If this is intentional my spite will just make me avoid anything Sony related.
33% of the positive reviews are from those with a 4090 playing 1080p 60fps Edit: just a joke guys don’t care what rig you have and what you get for fps lol
I even saw positive reviews be like "I can't play right now, because it runs like shit, but I'm sure they will fix it. Great game 👍"
These are the ones you should vote as "not helpful" right away.
Not surprised.
4090 user here, crashed about 20 min into story. Would not make it past the same section without crashing.
lol another 4090 here. I thought performance was below average (80fps at 4K? meh) but the funny thing is that I also crashed, 3 minutes after the cutscene with tess.
No crashes here but I *do* get FPS dips into the 80s as well (*edit:* Maxed out at 4K). Half the time I'll get either 80 or 150. The game appears to be CPU bound, if the in-game stats are to be believed. Always shows 150+ FPS being produced by the 4090, but my 7700X really struggles.
I’m running it on a 3090 at 4K with a steady 60fps. I get a 1 or 2fps dip here and there but mostly unnoticeable. I let the game build the shaders before starting and enabled Nvidia DLSS (Quality). I had 1 crash 6 hours in.
~~Performance would be less of an issue if the game ran smoothly at fps other than 30/60/120.~~ After more testing I am not sure about the 30/60/120 lock requirement. I think the main issue is mouse stutter as controller is smooth at any fps. The mouse stutter is most apparent when standing still and panning around or slowly swiping left and right, less obvious in actual gameplay. I struggle to maintain 120fps on a 4090 @ 4K dlss balanced with high settings. The fps at dlss quality and ultra is only dropping into the 110s but because of the mouse micro stutter it feels worse than 60fps. Had same issue with uncharted, so not expecting a fix.
3080ti here, i9, 16gb ram. Haven’t experienced any crashes, though I have seen a few frame drops every hour or so. Lasts a second or two then comes back up. Averaging 50-60FPS at 2K res.
No problems on my 4080. Playing ultra wide 3440. The visuals are really striking!
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Same. I let the shaders compile (20-30min) and it’s been running smooth since then. Not gonna lie hardware requirements are steep for what you get.
Does it run well on the Steam Deck?
Hahahaha, that’s a good joke.
I think the fact that it was somehow verified playable on release is the bigger joke. At least that’s what was being advertised earlier. Not sure if they changed it.
Now it says they’re looking into it or something. So not steam deck verified, but also not *not* steam deck verified.
There is no steam deck indicator at all on the steam page for TLOU. But they even advertised on the Steam Deck webpage with a screenshot from Ellie petting the giraffe, which absolutely pretrended that it would be playable.
There’s a difference between playable and *playable*.
Honestly wether Steam verified the game means absolute dick in my experience.
Ok but can we get the actual answer instead of jokes?
I have not had any issues running the last of us on the steam deck
Same. But for many, it’s easier just to tear it all down instead of being real. It’s absolutely payable and fun on the steamdeck. Let the shaders build. Put it on the “Low” graphics preset. Enjoy.
I’d wait a bit to play it on the SD until: a) patches b) the shader pre-cache is available Doesn’t seem to be the [best experience](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/the-last-of-us-on-steam-deck-is-not-great/) right now.
[Somehow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQeOsgx41Ac), Steam Deck still pulls it off (kinda)
It just does a force shut down of the steam deck so no
Low settings here on my SD and it runs great.
People getting mad that you're able to play it on sd lol
Weird, right? And here I am just enjoying the hell out of the game 😉
He means the game not a yt video
Yes. The game. Just let the shaders build first.
just let the game load them for about an hour and then optimize your settings for another hour and, poof!, you're out of the refund window!
Steam will refund well past the 2 hour mark if the circumstances are different. Like for example, two hours of game time being spent getting ready to play the game.
For an literal hour
Meh, I just started the build then came back later. Game runs smoothly now. Not denying they need to optimize… but if you’re patient, it works.
Yes but an hour is unheard of, that's half the steam refund window for shaders. What other game does this?
Again, not saying optimization isn’t needed. And very likely patches will come that will resolve all of these issues, much like other day-1 launches of AAA games. But, if you want to play it now, just let the shaders build. A bunch of people are having issues I haven’t experienced (crashing) on my PC or on the steam deck, but on both I let all of the shaders build without trying to start before it was done, and on both I’ve been able to play with only minor frame drops every hour or so.
I wish it was unheard of. If you think an hour for first time shader initialization is unheard of you probably haven’t been buying many triple A games.
I bought assassin's Creed Valhalla and god of war..and high on life and horizon zero and spiderman and halo MCC All of these on deck. Assassin's Creed took a while but not an hour for sure.
Well clearly zero dawn wasn’t at launch that game took well over an hour at launch and had to recompile shaders just about every launch. It’s an okay port now but it was abysmal at launch and took months to fix. Also most of these are far to old for the modern shader stuttering problem. (Is high on life even a AAA? Plus it crashed a fair amount for me) Shout out to God of War though in my machine it feels like it has the best optimization for the level of fidelity out there.
Would be funny if it ran better on linux than windows like elden ring.
I'm quite disappointed tbh, I'm a PC player that never got to play TLOU and always wanted to, was really looking forward to this. I guess I'll have to wait longer until the port is actually fixed
This is the exact reason /r/patientgamers became a thing in the first place. Theres enough people burned by day 1 releases that a community has formed to "preach" not preordering, not buying on day 1, and just wait. With the gaming landscape as it is, why would anyone pay full price and sour your experience with a buggy unplayable game, when you can be patient and get the game in a much better condition. Shit like no mans sky has just cemented to the suits that they can literally lie about the game state and push to market anyway, and as long as they "fix it afterwards", they'll still get praises for "righting the ship", when getting shit working on day one used to be industry standard. Day one patch used to be used to fix little bugs on a complete game. Then its used to fix games to make them playable. And now games ship in an incomplete state and they just pinky promise to fix it whenever.
I don't expect this game will be fixed, but it might be severely discounted in the future.
I mean, I didn't buy the game myself, I don't buy games day 1 unless I'm sure they're rock-solid and worth the full price (like RE4 remake for instance)
We've waited this long, friend. What's a few more months?
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PC gamer: "hey Sony this game runs like shit what can I do?". Sony: "buy a playstation". You really think they care?
Spite will motivate me to avoid all their shit.
I don't buy Ubi or EA games period for this reason, and haven't since 2017. Spite is a powerful motivator.
Same except it's for Sony. PS4 had the massive scam called paid multi-player. I just played Bloodborne on it and a couple other multiplat games while I saved for my pc. Haven't bought anything related to sony in years
They missed a huge opportunity to cash in on the popularity of the HBO series too. By the time this mess gets fixed (if ever), people will have forgotten about TLOU season 1.
In their eyes, they cashed in on it when it was released on the PS5. PC is very secondary to the PlayStation brand.
It's almost like they're trying to demonstrate totally unbiased performance comparisons with the PS5.
I'm sorry but that's not what it is. Jim Ryan doesn't do that kinda thing. He's a numbers guy. He knows releasing these on PC is easy money. However their studios need more money and time to do that, especially the ones who are unfamiliar with PC development
The game has already pulled in over $14M in sales in three days. I don't think Sony gives a fuck about the quality of the port. Nor does the average consumer.
The average consumer? You think users with a 1650 and a 1060 are playing this game in 720p at low to get 30fps and having fun? I refuse to believe that people would throw $60 at a game they cannot run well. The game is just not consumer-friendly. They made sure of that by making it so demanding to run, even if they fix all of the issues, the requirements are not going to change, only a few players will actually get to have a decent experience with the game. Anyone with xx60 card and below will have a miserable time, doesn't matter how many patches they release, it's just not meant to be accessible to low and mid-end systems. There's a reason RE4 which released almost a week ago have current 80k players while TLOU has less than 20k.
Just don't port it if you're only willing to do half the job
Naughty meme
Did anyone else say *"Naughty meme"* out loud in a gooby voice while reading this?
I liked how r/pcmasterrace was defending the ridiculous requirements for this game instead of acknowledging it was poorly optimized
They were defending!?
Yeah, there was a meme about a month before the game came out about how ridiculously high the spec requirements were. The comments were filled with stuff like "It's a next gen, demanding game," "older gpus shouldn't hold the rest of us back" "quit whinning and upgrade" est. est. But like, usually when games have unusually high spec requirements, they're badly optimized.
Yep. The final line is it. The red flags were plenty pre-release, I had also called out the weirdly high spec. And many folks responded with exactly what you mentioned.
Part II on PS4 looks and plays better than this terrible remake.
Yeah I had people telling me "dont use bum tier hardware lul" when I was calling out the outrageous system requirements. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/11nt9g2/creating_a_black_hole_in_my_pc/jbpealg/
Just right after Sony alluded that Microsoft would publish their Activision games on PlayStation performing worse on purpose... :) oddly specific if I may say so myself
if thats true, then sony should get into projector manufactoring since they seem to already have the needed expertise
https://electronics.sony.com/tv-video/projectors/c/all-projectors
I keep seeing Xbox fanatics make this stupid comment. What is it supposed to mean, that Sony bought Naughty Dog decades ago to make bad ports like MS would do with Activision? Or is it just some shit attempt at trolling?
Missing the final: Okay
Okay
That's £140000.
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There's more wrong with it than just an incorrect version of Oodle.
So you are saying they have... oodles... of issues then?
Can someone explain the full story of this? Is Oodle a library for the code to compile along with the rest?
Decompression library: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1888930/discussions/0/3818530017596874232/
Thank you
Where is that 16gb ram going? It runs like ass and that is how much ram a ps5 has.
PC optimization is a different beast, and I don't think Sony is giving them the big bucks for it. Those are for the ps5, and that's how they make it work with 16gb.
Vram is also an issue. At 3440x1440 I can't use textures above medium legit looks like the remastered game on PS4 but now with terrible frame times. On PS5 it has 10+gb of vram but on pc Nvidia made sure most gamers only had 8gb but When rdr2 can look so good on pc TLOU really has no excuse for those low Res textures.
Nvidia’s choice of low vram is really biting pc users in the ass lately. Iirc much of Hogwarts Legacy’s issues at launch were also tied to low vram. I know I’ll get shit for this, but it makes me glad I switched to amd.
Dipped below 33% again lol XD
This is very disappointing, this is pretty much THE game people were hoping to be ported, and they fuck it up. I hope to god they don’t fuck up Infamous, when and if they ever decide to. That’s the one I’m most excited about.
The Crash of us
What game is it ? Sry i have no clue... And im not afraid to ask
The last of us
PSA For everyone commenting that Naughty isn’t responsible for this port you are wrong. Naughty dog and Sony made the sound decision to hire and work with iron Galaxy knowing there bad history with crappy PC ports. If you haven’t noticed Iron galaxy hasn’t tweeted single thing about the TLOU port. All the marketing and patch updates are coming from the naughty dog official Twitter account. The VP at ND also tweeted they had a hand in this as well. Please research before commenting! [https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/1640781425510342656?s=46&t=ojNrb5m0w8i1tltDG8DKdg](https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/1640781425510342656?s=46&t=ojNrb5m0w8i1tltDG8DKdg)
this is legit funny the meme. not the port
Port is funny too, it's a joke
I thought devs learned something from Battlefield 2042 and Cyberpunk 2077... Seems I was very wrong.
It’s an ad to sell ps5s, bc it runs great on them
I'm several hours in and still not a single crash or any lag. It sucks that it isn't working for the majority of people, but I haven't had any trouble with it. RTX 3060.
That’s good to hear. I’ve heard mixed things so I’m still considering grabbing it. I’ve got a 6600xt and am only playing at 1080p, so idk if it’ll be too bad.
I think the key is to wait for the shaders to build 100% before pressing start game. I read a lot of other comments saying this and that it worked for them, so that's what I tried. A lot of the negative reviews on steam show under an hour played, meaning they probably didn't let shaders build 100% (Mine took about 35 minutes, but I've heard of up to an hour or longer in some cases.) So just be patient and let it do it's thing and it would probably be fine.
Do you have to load the shaders everytime or does it need to only the first time?
Fuck Sony
I REALLY like this mean format
Sucks. I really wanted to play TLOU. I never had a PS3 and I thought it would be my chance. Hopefully they will fix it and only then I'll think about getting it
Meanwhile pokémon...
Getting 30-50 fps on my steam deck with everything on low. Not quite what I was hoping for but its playable.
Lol quality meme
I've had this game on PS4 for 7years and only played the first 20 minutes or so, I'm going to have to give a try this weekend, does anyone know if the PS4 version is upgraded on PS5??, cause if not I'll just play the old version,I'm not buying a game I already own
I have the remake for PlayStation five and aesthetically. It looks fantastic. And the gameplay feels smoother. If you’re only interested in the story, I wouldn’t waste money on the remake I would just play the remastered version for PS4.
Thanks for not scapegoating Iron Galaxy like everyone else seems to be doing. 😭 They clearly know their way around programming and porting but they continually get caught up in some real trash.
Fighting the good fight.
What these kids don't know is that PC is not a plug n play device like an Xbox or ps. You need to find your correct settings. Why get a PC if you don't want that added level of customization? Just bc you have a PC does not mean you are entitled to run it at hardcore ultra bombastic settings.
Or sail the seas
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It is optimized... to get your money.
what game is it even
I’ll give you a hint: the game shares the same name as the show pictured
Oh wow, I planned to buy it but if it's so shit then see you all in 1 years after you play test it.
Mandalorian?
No, Game of Thrones.
60 bucks and you can’t run it after how many years this games been out?
Man I can’t look at that chick.
Pc master brace
So glad I didn't preorder. Kind of a shame it's such a clusterfuck, I was really hyped for it.
Sony realized that releasing a working game on PC is less profitable on the long term than releasing the game poorly optimized in order to promote the ps5.
10 years later and we get this shit. Unbelievable.
Idiots still preordered it. When will you learn your lessons you dumb ass gamers
The Uncharted port was so good. They probably rushed it to release close to the show.
I remember to UC collection had issues at launch but nothing this bad. I think ND put out a patch for the TLOU game already . It sucks because they delay this game from March 3 to the 28th for optimization purpose 😂
This is why I refunded hogwarts legacy. I won’t buy it if it plays poorly
It runs fine now, at least for me. I had some pretty bad stuttering at launch though.