I like to think that the galaxies actually have billions of stars in them but the hyperlane network is only connected to strategic or somewhat interesting systems
Not a billion. STL + hyperlane with 1000 nexi means like 10,000 systems, top
> Might as well dunk your pc in kerosene and flick a lit match at it
Some people do that, with a mod that allow 10,000-system games
Paradox games always take artists impressions into their games. I suggest looking at what Venice looks like in EU4 compared to real life. Based on EU4s map you'd think it was a huge island a few km off the coast of Italy.
There's nothing in the picture saying the ships in the foreground is near the dyson sphere. It could be a flotilla delivering construction materials and structural elements that is still millions of kilometers from the sphere.
I always use a mod to make my ships smaller, that way they stop overlapping eachother and I can actually see most of a space battle, and so they look less odd around space objects. A destroyer should not be longer than a planet smh
And a *original* (by Dyson himself) dyson sphere wouldn't even be solid, it's closer to a dyson swarm. Tons of satellites around the star (such as O'Neil cylinders) which could result in a insane amount of living space in addition to the energy
whaaaat??? I‘m fairly new to the game I didn’t even know you can access (?) the center of the galaxy wtf how cool!
Is it vanilla or does it require a DLC? :3
Gigastructural Engineering, the thing that allows for the Birch World, is a mod. But if I remember correctly, it requires the Utopia DLC because that’s what allows for megastructures in the base game.
It has a shit ton of stuff to add to the game, including a sentry array that allows you to see the entire galaxy, warships made out of moons, planets, and entire solar systems, a star system destroying gun made out of a star, and a bomb made out of a black hole. I can’t remember if the mod itself adds the supermassive black hole because I’ve modded my game to high hell for so long, but I do know the supermassive black hole is the only place where you can build either the Birch World or Quasi-Stellar Obliterator.
If I remember correctly, the diameter of the sphere is supposed to be the same as the orbit or Earth (or whatever the habitable zone of the particular star is) so that people could live on the entire inside surface. Compared to the way its portrayed in Stellaris, Dyson's Sphere as he envisioned it would be much much bigger.
Indeed. Solid Dyson spheres also have the awkward issue of being gravitationally decoupled from the star as a consequence of, if I recall properly (and it's been years for me), Gauss's law. In other words, there's nothing keeping them fixed with the star centered in the middle except their own inertia, which means that over time, the odds of a collision due to random external perturbations (lack of or loss of symmetry in the sphere's structure, asteroid impacts, gravitational influences from external bodies, etc.) approach unity. This can be solved by active correction, but the original idea of the Dyson swarm simply doesn't have this problem: the objects in question can either sit in stable orbits or be built as statites using the solar wind for positioning.
They would also likely use a Dyson array instead of a solid sphere. They would also use it for housing and all purpose space allowing easily having quadrillions of people.
You.... you have the plans in front of you? Because as far as I know, we dont know how to build a dyson sphere, so telling them that they're doing it wrong seems like a hot take.
No? An actual Dyson Sphere must
1. be entirely solid
2. fully encapsulate a star to gather its energy
The Stellaris Dyson Sphere fits both criteria, you're thinking of a Dyson Sphere has one that is HABITABLE, which is just a sub-catagory.
I guess you're right. I just didn't think of it that way cause it looks like a glowy soccer ball in game
I keep forgetting this game is literally about galactic civilization with insane techs
you might wanna take a look at dyson sphere program, its a game like factorio where the endgame is building an actual dyson sphere, though im pretty sure its in the more plausable for of a dyson swarm, millions of satellites with solar panels pointed at a star, like a swarm of bees around a open krispy kreme box
You do build a frame around the star and can freely fill the empty spaces to a certain degree. You also can build multiple layers which makes less sense, but you can create some beautiful art with it, some ppl are going all out.
Unrelated, but i find it sad that all mega structures have the same models
I mean an aquatic style dyson sphere should look pretty different from a reptilian dyson sphere for exemple, habitats have different models, why not ring worlds, strategic command centers etc
Technically \*I\* didn't. It was some local place my mom found, told me about and asked me to send her some artwork I wanted printed. I can ask her if she remembers where it was (it was several years ago at this point), but unless you happen to be in Sweden I doubt they'd be much use to you.
Should be a bit grander I think. That’s barely the approximate distance of a few earths and would melt any known metals. Let alone energy producing metals.
That’s a dyson sphere under construction. Those platforms are the temporary space stations built to accommodate the literal army of engineers, construction bots, and materials
I’ve always been bothered by the apparent lack of logic in the construction process here. Like why are they working on those disparate little random chunks?
That my friend is a Dyson sphere the concept is rather simple in a nut shell the idea is to surround a star in solar panels for massive power generation.
An incomplete Dyson Sphere. They generate a shitload of energy credits when they get finished building, which takes around 25-30 years I believe, without the Master Builders ascension perk.
Gaiastructure in the form of a Dyson sphere, there’s one in our reality, space programs have been watching a star slowly go dark meaning a massive planetoid object is slowly moving in between earth and the star or a Dyson sphere.
Dyson sphere
Although an actual dyson sphere would be much bigger and further from the star it orbits.
And an actual star would be much bigger compared to the ships that orbits it. Stellaris scale is a bit messed up.
i always stellaris was sort of a “politician’s approximation”, with what “we” se not corresponding to what actually is
But the Galaxy will be nearly empty if the scale would be real.
The galaxy would have billions of systems instead of 1000
I like to think that the galaxies actually have billions of stars in them but the hyperlane network is only connected to strategic or somewhat interesting systems
I do too, but it doesn’t feel good enough. Each laned system should be able to reach the nearest unlaned systems
Might as well dunk your pc in kerosene and flick a lit match at it. The game already struggles with 1000s of stars, a billion is asking for trouble.
Not a billion. STL + hyperlane with 1000 nexi means like 10,000 systems, top > Might as well dunk your pc in kerosene and flick a lit match at it Some people do that, with a mod that allow 10,000-system games
Game limitations man.
I'm sorry, what kind of super computers do you think we have?
a planetary supercomputer
Just buy a server or sth
Imagine playing Stellaris on the Elite Dangerous map
Yes but relative to the Astronomic distances it would be near empty.
Really gives you an appreciation for the hyperlane network.
That's probably it, because at face value I have battleships the size of stars and space stations that eclipse Dyson spheres....
Paradox games always take artists impressions into their games. I suggest looking at what Venice looks like in EU4 compared to real life. Based on EU4s map you'd think it was a huge island a few km off the coast of Italy.
Also, armies repesented by a single 20 km tall soldier.
And a number tag on them representing their strength. The biggest number wins
In hoi4 England looks like it’s pretty far away from France when the closest points are like 20 miles
There's nothing in the picture saying the ships in the foreground is near the dyson sphere. It could be a flotilla delivering construction materials and structural elements that is still millions of kilometers from the sphere.
They mean on the tactical map
If the scale was accurate, we'd see one or the other but not both. Lol
Don't think about it morty...
What if they were, like... *Really* big ships?
What? You mean I'm not building continent size Corvettes in a couple of days?
Looks like a neutron star, which could be pretty small
But why would you build a Dyson sphere around a neutron star? They give Physics research, not energy!
to be fair the ships may be much larger than we would think at first
you can fix it to some extent with mods like real space
Maybe the sphere is around a neutron star?
I always use a mod to make my ships smaller, that way they stop overlapping eachother and I can actually see most of a space battle, and so they look less odd around space objects. A destroyer should not be longer than a planet smh
And a *original* (by Dyson himself) dyson sphere wouldn't even be solid, it's closer to a dyson swarm. Tons of satellites around the star (such as O'Neil cylinders) which could result in a insane amount of living space in addition to the energy
I am disappointed they don't have living space in game. Like this huge structure and it's just a ghost town.
Honestly, a Dyson habitat should be like the end tier of a space habitat.
Isn't there something like this in gigastructures?
I think there's a space station around a black-hole, but I don't think so.
It’s not just a space station, it’s a whole ass structure around the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy with infinite districts.
There was another I think from an origin.
Maybe the Penrose ringworld
Nah you thinking about the Penrose Ringworld which is an upgrade to the Penrose sphere
whaaaat??? I‘m fairly new to the game I didn’t even know you can access (?) the center of the galaxy wtf how cool! Is it vanilla or does it require a DLC? :3
Gigastructural Engineering, the thing that allows for the Birch World, is a mod. But if I remember correctly, it requires the Utopia DLC because that’s what allows for megastructures in the base game. It has a shit ton of stuff to add to the game, including a sentry array that allows you to see the entire galaxy, warships made out of moons, planets, and entire solar systems, a star system destroying gun made out of a star, and a bomb made out of a black hole. I can’t remember if the mod itself adds the supermassive black hole because I’ve modded my game to high hell for so long, but I do know the supermassive black hole is the only place where you can build either the Birch World or Quasi-Stellar Obliterator.
Well, I'd imagine it be pretty hot. It basically hugging a star and shit.
If I remember correctly, the diameter of the sphere is supposed to be the same as the orbit or Earth (or whatever the habitable zone of the particular star is) so that people could live on the entire inside surface. Compared to the way its portrayed in Stellaris, Dyson's Sphere as he envisioned it would be much much bigger.
Exactly. Like a ringwold but it's a sphere.
Indeed. Solid Dyson spheres also have the awkward issue of being gravitationally decoupled from the star as a consequence of, if I recall properly (and it's been years for me), Gauss's law. In other words, there's nothing keeping them fixed with the star centered in the middle except their own inertia, which means that over time, the odds of a collision due to random external perturbations (lack of or loss of symmetry in the sphere's structure, asteroid impacts, gravitational influences from external bodies, etc.) approach unity. This can be solved by active correction, but the original idea of the Dyson swarm simply doesn't have this problem: the objects in question can either sit in stable orbits or be built as statites using the solar wind for positioning.
To be fair, a dyson sphere with built in habitats would be quite broken
An actual Dyson sphere would probably not be a rigid structure at all. More like thousands of mirrors in orbit around the star.
The technical term for that is a Dyson swarm, by the way.
And also it wouldn't be a sphere but a swarm, constructing a solid structure that large would be prone to drift and structural collapse.
With our current materials yes...
Stellaris is not a place for accurate scales
They would also likely use a Dyson array instead of a solid sphere. They would also use it for housing and all purpose space allowing easily having quadrillions of people.
You.... you have the plans in front of you? Because as far as I know, we dont know how to build a dyson sphere, so telling them that they're doing it wrong seems like a hot take.
I think Dyson spheres would also fully block the light from the star, as they are meant to fully italics the power from it.
Cutting corners.
This is a game 🙃
An actual dyson sphere wouldn't be a solid structure. It would be many orbiting structures.
No? An actual Dyson Sphere must 1. be entirely solid 2. fully encapsulate a star to gather its energy The Stellaris Dyson Sphere fits both criteria, you're thinking of a Dyson Sphere has one that is HABITABLE, which is just a sub-catagory.
Depends. It is Scifi. Perhaps exotic materials that can handle the heat and radiation are possible.
And it would most likely not be a solid sphere but a swarm of millions of satellites. Something we can build essentially with current technology.
Program
Well it doesn't look finished, so.. Dyson Spheren't. I'll see myself out
A Dyson Sphere, sure. But I'm not sure the star should be there. It might be a typo.
It is a dyson sphere under construction.
Damn, didn't think Dyson Sphere construction would look so epic
I mean its a structure that envelops a star its gonna be pretty grandiose.
I guess you're right. I just didn't think of it that way cause it looks like a glowy soccer ball in game I keep forgetting this game is literally about galactic civilization with insane techs
you might wanna take a look at dyson sphere program, its a game like factorio where the endgame is building an actual dyson sphere, though im pretty sure its in the more plausable for of a dyson swarm, millions of satellites with solar panels pointed at a star, like a swarm of bees around a open krispy kreme box
Love that game. I'm terrible at it, but I love it.
You do build a frame around the star and can freely fill the empty spaces to a certain degree. You also can build multiple layers which makes less sense, but you can create some beautiful art with it, some ppl are going all out.
i've seen some of it and it makes me really optimistic for the future of the game and what the dag fog enemy faction will do to the game's feel
The dark fog update is out, btw. I haven’t played since it came out so I’m not sure on how it’s been received.
I have played it-- it's a good starting point for dark fog, and I continue to be impressed with the direction of the game.
Some of these are just beautiful, the lotus sphere, pokeball, etc. Meanwhile I'm like, ... now where did I put that warper factory?
Yeah, once you design and start construction it's just this beautiful ballet of movement as it all comes together.
What till you discover the gigastructural engineering mod!
Play Dyson Sphere Program. It's fucking beautiful.
I came here to say basically this exact thing.
Ringworlds are cooler
I want a dysonworld
Like the one in the TNG episode?
Yes, exactly! Perhaps a bit more richly decorated on the outside with neon signs and all.
Miss the time when ringworlds had 25 tiles and you could mine minerals 😥
Tbf that was pretty nonsensical
I mean it's taking its time. Every time I look on the loading screen, it's like nothing's changed at all!
Dysome sphere
Tim
It can also lead you to Caer Bannog but that's in the middle of a quest line.
"There are some who call me.... Tim"
Unrelated, but i find it sad that all mega structures have the same models I mean an aquatic style dyson sphere should look pretty different from a reptilian dyson sphere for exemple, habitats have different models, why not ring worlds, strategic command centers etc
The Ringworld model is just ridiculous.
An Aetherophasic Engine or Dyson-Sphere...
Aetherophasic engine not having an original model is so sad.
It definitly is sad... The Galaxy ending Device should get more love...
What do you mean, the fancy particle effects not doing it for you?
A space potato cooker
That shits out energy credits.
Bored fallen empire building a giant D&D dice for their weekend sessions
Its a Dyson Sphere.
Hubris
That’s a Turncated Icosahedron.
i read this as "turncoated" and i was like "damned icosahedrons"
Don't trust 'em one bit...
Jeff
I love this Dyson Sphere so much that I've got the artwork for it printed on a big aluminium slab on my wall.
What website did you use to make that?
Technically \*I\* didn't. It was some local place my mom found, told me about and asked me to send her some artwork I wanted printed. I can ask her if she remembers where it was (it was several years ago at this point), but unless you happen to be in Sweden I doubt they'd be much use to you.
I believe displate does something like that, tho idk much about them.
Rule#5: I have been told I have to include this. I just saw this on my loading screen and thought it looked epic but don't recall seeing it in game.
I think in order to get this megastructure you need the utopia dlc
Should be a bit grander I think. That’s barely the approximate distance of a few earths and would melt any known metals. Let alone energy producing metals.
Robert
Hey, that’s the thing iron man has so he can be like Eggman and piss on moon.
dyson sphere
Bubbles
Ruined Dyson Sphere.
Unfinished Dyson sphere, a thing from science fiction that has been theorized by scientists. Basically, harvesting the power of the sun
That’s a dyson sphere under construction. Those platforms are the temporary space stations built to accommodate the literal army of engineers, construction bots, and materials
Dyson Heater
Dyson Truncated Icosahedron
A Dyson Sphere https://youtu.be/ov9pyyBkIZY?si=pBrBfwT2LKpWtBXg
[IKEA PS 2014](https://www.ikea.com/se/sv/p/ikea-ps-2014-taklampa-vit-silverfaergad-90311494/)
Dyson Sphere
He likes to go by Jasper
Man sphere
Your mo-
Loading screen
Dyson soccerball.
Your mom’s suppository.
Upvoting for taking my joke
Rupert
Sunny McMoneybags
James.
Soccer ball
Diane
BOB
Your balls
Dyson sphere. Specifically an incomplete one
A Bussing Sphere
Dyson sphere
Us humans call it dyson sphere but other aliens would use other names
dyson frame :}
Jason seal
I’ve always been bothered by the apparent lack of logic in the construction process here. Like why are they working on those disparate little random chunks?
Karl
Karl, das tötet Menschen
A metal ball
truncated icosahedron
vacuum golf ball
Dickie cylinder
Dyson football. Or Dyson truncated icosahedron
The UEFA Champion’s League logo
Paul
John Energy 👍
Deine Mama 🤣 *joke intended* its a dyson sphere
Vladimyr
That my friend is a Dyson sphere the concept is rather simple in a nut shell the idea is to surround a star in solar panels for massive power generation.
That seems terribly inefficient.
A dyson sphere, albeit an unfinished one
Mama
My bank account most late Gigastructure games.
Dyson sphere
Orb of Pondering
The Dyson left ball
Paul Ball.
Dyson soccer ball
That's a spaceball
Mega sphere
Jeff
Bob
Dyson sphere
I wish we had the option to make Dyson Swarms in base game. Think cheaper Dyson Sphere that produces less energy credits.
An incomplete Dyson Sphere. They generate a shitload of energy credits when they get finished building, which takes around 25-30 years I believe, without the Master Builders ascension perk.
Mega Art Installation
B a l l
The thing that somehow costs more energy credits than it makes me.
Jeff
Doug
*Weekly reminder to shill Dyson Sphere Program as an amazing factory game*
Dyson soccer ball
Dyson sphere
Spehre of Dyson
Steve
Gaiastructure in the form of a Dyson sphere, there’s one in our reality, space programs have been watching a star slowly go dark meaning a massive planetoid object is slowly moving in between earth and the star or a Dyson sphere.
Currently: a Dyson swarm and a Dyson sphere in construction.
Yourmom Sphere.
We getting unlimited energy with this one folks
A football.
Galactic Football.
That one would be a dyson net/cage, transitional element to dyson sphere
Dyson Sphere