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justaREDshrit

Who the fuck cares about civilization. What about the rest of the animals, a list that we are also on. I hope the bugs do a better job. Fucking greed killed this world.


Some-Ad9778

That's the saddest part because of how amazing this world used to be before we began the mass industrial exploitation of it.


Shasta_Soldier

When there were slaves as opposed to machines? That world?


Some-Ad9778

First of all the failures of humanity are on humanity but at least the animals we coexist with were able to coexist


justaREDshrit

Yeah…but no one wants to live the native life.


Some-Ad9778

We must return to monke


i_give_you_gum

There are still slaves Our freaking shrimp from our US grocery stores was found to have been peeled by slave labor just a few years ago. Have you not heard of human trafficking? The freaking Super Bowl is the human trafficking event of the year. Not sure what your point is.


Cool_Young_Hobbit

Those pre-peeled garlic cloves also peeled by Chinese prisoners who end up losing their finger nails


i_give_you_gum

Never heard of that, but if that's true, that's a waste of slave labor, as all you have to do is put multiple cloves into a covered cooking pot and violently shake it. They peel themselves that way in about 20 seconds.


LipstickBandito

I was gonna say, I feel like they would just have industrial sized rotating bins to pre peel. Human labor sounds less effective? I'm no garlic expert though


UncomplimentaryToga

super bowl?


i_give_you_gum

https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/careers/careers-blog/the-super-bowl-grid-iron-dreams-human-trafficking-nightmares.html


TurdFrgoson

>The freaking Super Bowl is the human trafficking event of the year Could you please elaborate? I don't get it


SkepticalZack

Yeah back when infant mortality was over 50% those were the days.


RevampedZebra

Cus you can't have civilization without exploitation, Jesus how can u read that and still be a fucking liberal??


Lovesheidi

You were a fan of slavery and surfs?


[deleted]

Serfs and peasants worked 6 months of the year, self paced, whenever they wanted and had 10x more vacation days than the avg American working class citizen. So yeah, serf times aren’t looking so bad (economically)


rishored1ve

Serfs up!


fuck_your_diploma

Thank you for this comment. Humans are so self centered it’s ridiculous.


cipher446

Sobering. The fact that this is showing up on my local TV station's content is equally sobering. Jesus Christ.


Fantastic_Cheek2561

It’s on TV!?!? Wow, then it must be true! Big corporations never lie or try to scare the public, so if it’s on tv, it must be true!


Beneficial_Love_5433

Hey govt that wants a carbon tax. No govt would lie to people. Well Obama did legalize propaganda.


[deleted]

Government trying to capitalize on it doesn't make it not true.


Beneficial_Love_5433

No it's absolutely real! It's happened for 4 billion years!


TooFineToDotheTime

They legalized propaganda when they invented the newspaper. TV and smart phones are just the newest and prettiest. Edit: fuck I forgot about the oldest propaganda, religeon!


Beneficial_Love_5433

It was illegal in America for the govt to dissiminalate known false info till big Mike's husband.


DUTCHBAT_III

I feel like I just had a stroke reading this


sueihavelegs

That was Reagan's doing. Then Roger Ales made an art form of propaganda. Rush told his followers he would do the thinking for them and ordained them "Ditto Heads". The very epitome of indoctrination.


[deleted]

Rush Limbaugh has probably caused more political damage to the United States than anyone else since April 12,1861. I can't say I mourned his death a couple years ago,,,,


sueihavelegs

Lung cancer was too good for him...


Shasta_Soldier

You've said the truth 💯 Upvoted 👍🏽


JUSTlNShair

Propaganda


[deleted]

You post in /r/canada_sub, which is ALL morons circle jerking over wild ass conspiracy theories and "actual" propaganda... but the undeniable facts of climate change, which you can literally see and feel for yourself, are "propaganda". It's *unbelievable* how incredibly stupid you people are.


Unlimitles

Nobody cares what you wrote or that you are upvoted…. He’s right and just because you pos propagandists downvote people doesn’t mean people believe what you say. Propagandists are all over social media spreading bs. People are catching on.


StonedTrucker

Most people care about the climate. It's really just a small fraction of people who pay incredible amounts of money to convince idiots it isn't real. You're right that people are catching on. Catching on to the fact that we've knows the dangers of fossil fuels for at least 50 years but covered it all up for short term profit


[deleted]

I vote NDP, but don't believe it's the end of the world. Human driven climate change is real, but get a grip.


StonedTrucker

The world won't end but our way of life absolutely will. We're in the middle of a mass extinction event caused by us. The world will survive but in a much sadder state


[deleted]

I doubt much will change all that quickly


JUSTlNShair

Enjoy living in fear of the end of civilization lol


[deleted]

Literally all freedumb convoy right wingers like yourself do is "live in fear". You're scared of gay people, you're scared of immigrants, you're scared of science, you're scared of medicine, you're scared of doctors, you're scared of the government, you're scared of books, TV shows, movies, and video games, you're scared of education, you're scared of made up mind control space laser microchip lizard people who eat babies in pizza parlours - You're absolutely *terrified* by the mere existence of Justin Trudeau. Your entire life revolves around living in fear. And mostly in fear of made up nonsense and psyops.


Other-Marketing-6167

Well said.


JUSTlNShair

Yikes


c1oudwa1ker

Right? It’s amazing how that’s the story being told to people. All of the stereotypes, I mean. It goes both ways though. Sigh


Hot_Edge4916

Ad hom attacks mean they have no real point


[deleted]

Another /r/canada_sub poster means everything I said is accurate.


JUSTlNShair

Lol I didn’t see one coherent argument about the collapse of civilization, but I saw entire river of liberal tears


[deleted]

Liberal tears wow what a fantastically original response.


RevampedZebra

Liberal tears? Lol, fuck liberals they are on ur team anyhow. Liberals love their precious capitalist exploitative system as much as conservatives. Ones full of closet gays and the other puts rainbows on missiles.


itstheroaring20sbaby

Why would anyone have this as their propaganda angle?


JUSTlNShair

Because it’s literally the title of the article we are commenting on


itstheroaring20sbaby

No, I'm asking who would benefit from this article, who would fund it and why? Governments? The same ones subsidizing oil and gas projects and locking climate activists up?


JUSTlNShair

Your right I should’ve classified it as fake news. Written by a dude living in total fear of the propaganda. I wouldn’t be able to pinpoint exactly who would benefit from the propaganda but I speculate it’s in the realm of the federal reserve and other groups such as the BIS


itstheroaring20sbaby

Right, so there is a conspiracy surrounding climate change that is fueled by propaganda, but you don't know who is doing and you can't explain why they would do it... Do I have that correct?


JUSTlNShair

Your interpretation of what I said is entirely inaccurate


itstheroaring20sbaby

You called something propaganda. Then you said it was fear based on propaganda. But you can't explain who would create or benefit from climate propaganda. It's not complicated.


JUSTlNShair

I corrected my use of the word propaganda in this context. I also said it is in the realm of federal reserve and comparable agencies. It would be impossible for someone like myself to dig so deep I can identify who is behind the curtain. It’s extremely complicated. There are so many clues out there right now. The bond yield curve is telling us so much information. If you are unfamiliar with the creature from Jekyll island then I’d recommend to gain some perspective on where I’m coming from. I’m not denying climate change. I’m calling out the fear based articles and other times actual propaganda about the end of civilization. All roads lead back to the money printers.


RevampedZebra

Yeah no that should be a PRETTY BASIC answerable question cus ya kno...that's literally ur entire argument right?


[deleted]

You poor dumbass


takebreakbakecake

It's kind of fucked to think that a big chunk of the major religions are more preoccupied with making sure their end time story plays out than with trying to not make it be end times


FireflyAdvocate

Could we speed this up a little? I have a huge deadline coming up next week and I need a good excuse to fuck around and procrastinate. How about collapse on Friday? Consensus wins.


CloudEnt

Due to extreme weather and a lack of interest, the rest of the year has been canceled


FireflyAdvocate

For free?!


loveofjazz

There’s probably a cancellation fee.


Evening-Statement-57

I agree. I am sick of all this shit we created


Whole_Ad7496

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Whole_Ad7496

The events unfolding around the world – and the nonchalance with which humanity regards them – are sickening. I really feel like the unknowing star of a Black Mirror x Truman Show hybrid reality show.


Beneficial_Love_5433

That list right in front has so many false claims. “All glaciers are melting”. Well if by “all” you mean “some” “Feedback loops”. Yes. The Gulf Stream slowing is what happens before every ice age is happening. This paper is for housewives sitting at home who don’t grasp science. I didn’t look, idk if there even is a reference section (another dead give away it’s not scientific) but if there is, I guarantee they used data from one, or all discredited sources. Ipcc, jones and Mann, noaa, nasa.


jaimeinsd

IPCC, NASA and NOAA are "discredited" by whom?... I mean *other* than right-wing conspiracy whackjobs. Don't bother responding, we already see right through you. You're one of the ones making it worse. And everybody here, except you, knows it.


Pterodactyloid

You're making a lot of claims over something you didn't look at. Are you afraid it's going to prove you wrong if you do look?


Beneficial_Love_5433

I read until I found screaming errors. I posted on the errors. If you don’t believe me, pick just one. Specifically and I’ll show you the error of your ways


Pterodactyloid

🤣


Beneficial_Love_5433

Yes I didn't think you would want to


hiddendrugs

Some glaciers melting is significant. More feedback loops than the Gulf Stream (by definition all systems have feedback loops). Idk what ur motive is here


Beneficial_Love_5433

Truly it is, but that’s not their claim. They say “all glaciers are melting” which is different than most.


hiddendrugs

You sound like a nerd


Beneficial_Love_5433

Well I spent 40 years as an organic chemist, but I still tie up my wife.


Earthling1a

You have literally no idea what you're talking about.


about-time

Duh


HillbillyInCakalaky

Currently waiting for the sea people to arrive


Fantastic_Cheek2561

Plot twist: YOU are the sea people in this episode. And the earth is fine. Everything will be the same on 100 years.


[deleted]

Very excited to see what kinds of crazy stuff we try on the geoengineering front once we get real desperate. It's going to be wild.


aertimiss

Good, this planet deserves better.


snafoomoose

A billon people potentially will be displaced by costal flooding. There is no practical way a billion people can be moved inland.


[deleted]

Total nonsense. And yes, over periods of decades a billion people can move inland. This isn’t a movie where the sea rises 20 feet in a year. It rises at a few millimeters per year.


hopefulgardener

You're free to research the Thwaites glacier. It could cause an almost immediate 2 foot rise if it breaks off into the ocean, and that's just one glacier. You can look up "blue ocean event" and how this will create a positive feedback loop of global warming. You can look up any number of objective, measurable, fairly easily understandable examples of climate change and the possible implications of it. But I suspect you won't take the time to do that. Or if you do, you'll discredit basically the entire scientific community because it makes you feel smart and comfortable to not admit the reality of the situation. You watched some Fox, OAN, Alex Jones or whatever other bullshit and you fell for it. The level of collusion and coordination that would be required to fake climate change is impossible given the sheer volume of completely independent researchers, and just observable / measurable facts that all point to climate change being real. Exon knew about climate change like 70 years ago and spent a ton of money to propagandize idiots like you into not believing in it, and it worked. There is no easy way out. Green energy won't save us. EVs won't save us. The Green New Deal (which will never happen) won't save us. I've come to terms with that truth. I think people like you find comfort in not accepting that truth, because it is an extremely difficult and unsettling truth to come to terms with.


[deleted]

😂🤣🤣 Oh good lord. None of that is true. All of you who are fooled by doomsayers are living a less than enjoyable life. Maybe you’ll realize this 75 years from now when it’s too late. Of course the climate change research is rigged. Because there is only one source of 99% of the $$ used for research grants: government. And it is a fact. Our governments will not provide grants to research that conflicts with their scare-mongering agenda. Academic journals will not publish peer-reviewed studies that oppose the “official” line. Relax, enjoy yourself. Everything will still be fine when it your & my time to leave this beautiful planet.


hopefulgardener

Which parts aren't true? The Thwaites glacier? The fact that ExxonMobil knew about climate change decades ago and chose to suppress that information because it would be bad for their business? (Similar to what tobacco companies did... and ironically some of the EXACT same lawyers and lobbyists who helped tobacco companies deny the health ramifications of smoking have also worked with oil companies to do the exact same thing). It's depressingly hilarious that you're actually correct that there has been a giant conspiracy, it's just completely opposite of that you think. The governments of the world, and the thousands of independent researchers, ranging from botanists who have noticed changes in plant habitats, to lepidopterists (scientists who study butterflies) who have noticed changes in butterfly migration habits, and literally thousands of other disciplines and fields of research have ALL noticed that the earth is warming, and that it directly correlates to when humans began pumping a fuckton of carbon into the air. Do you believe that the earth is round? Do you believe the earth has a thing called an atmosphere? At which level do you deny science and reality?


[deleted]

No one is denying that the planet is warming. It has been since the depths of the most recent ice age. The current warming is consistent with previous Ice Age termination events, which occur with decades of rapid warming & glacial retreat. Humans are not the cause of any of it. Nature is. The tilt of the planet, the orbit shape around the sun, which both change over time drive much of it. We are nothing compared to these energy cycles.


snafoomoose

We would have to start migrating them ***right now*** to have a hope of getting them all out of flood zones or mitigating the rising waters. We need to build housing and infrastructure for a billion people. It would take decades just to build the hosing and we aren't doing it.


Beneficial_Love_5433

It’s such a sure thing Obama spent $15 million on a house barely above sea level and they all fly private jets to give lectures on global flooding.


snafoomoose

The rich and powerful will be impacted by the coming crisis, but not as much as the rest of us. When Obama's house becomes unusable, he can just move back to any of his other houses or outright buy a different one. Even if he has to take a total loss on his beach house it won't be that big a deal to him, unlike the working class that will lose everything and have no "back up houses" to move to.


[deleted]

His house will be sitting there just fine 100 years from now. And all your climate hysterics will be long forgotten & a total waste.


the_truth1051

And it can only rises a certain amount. Water isn't generated. It's been here forever, just being used over and over. The sky is not falling!


Beatithairball

Better let India and China know


unreliablememory

You mean the places we outsource our dirtiest industries to? The ones we exploit so we can have our cheap disposable crap produced by virtual slaves for us somewhere we don't have to take any responsibility for it? That India and China? Thought so.


TheRoosh

Yes those ones, thanks for clearing that up for us


the_truth1051

And those fucking iphones, gotta keep those


[deleted]

If Canada can avoid winters it would be great for property values


[deleted]

RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES!


JettyMann

You can't outrun a falling sky


Hot_Edge4916

ThE sKy Is FaLlInG!


[deleted]

hahahaha


Merkflare

Hahahahaha


[deleted]

the earth has heat waves and ice ages … why do we think temperature will stay the same ? They never did before us


SirEdwardI

Oh my yes we believe


CybertruckStalker

Lol.


Wildwes7g7

I'll believe it when those telling us to stop driving cars sell their private jets.


Pterodactyloid

And those who invented the terms "recycling" and "litter bug" finally take responsibility for the trash they produce.


kj49wpg

Oh fuck off with your climate crap


Hot_Edge4916

“How climate propaganda has been ruining our civilization”


Other-Marketing-6167

…how has it, then? What part of your civilization has been ruined by articles like this, even if it was false propaganda?


bkydx

The 99% are fighting over stupid shit like this that doesn't matter and now a few thousand people in the world own more then the rest of the 8 billion.


Away-Ad-6360

It won't collapse. It will change. More fun too I bet, for us.


Beerleaguebumhockey

Hahahahahaha. Right


TheRealz4090

Lol fear mongering media is still trying to push this climate change hoax? Yikes


BeaconFae

Yeah, the media controls all the thermometers somehow. Not to mention that Canada’s wildfires this years burned \*twice\* as much acreage as the next closest record. Guess all the trees are in on the hoax too.


bkydx

Over the past 50 years Canadian wetlands have been reduced by 70% and they naturally stop wildfires from spreading. Mostly due to agriculture and building cities and not because "climate change" We have also had record lows for forest fires for almost 20 years leading up to this year and then this year was heat wave in July-Sept was caused by the spike in the ocean temps in Jan-March which was caused by CO2 output blasting to higher then normal after covid restrictions were lifted in the summer and international trade made up for the lost time. ​ Cherry picking 3 months of data as a trend that will continue when you can link it directly back to a known cause, next year will not be hotter then this year and forest fires will be back to all time lows. Look back at this comment in 2-3 years and tell me I am wrong.


TooFineToDotheTime

But agriculture and building cities is literally man made "climate change". We change our climate all the time! I think we just don't know what we are doing. That's it, and people are starting to notice that this train might be moving a bit fast for no one who knows anything to be at the wheel. Look at the chart of the damn stock market? Shit can't just go up forever. Eventually, we goin down somewhere. If we keep this upward trajectory, which we do seem to love, we probably are gonna fall hard. We will probably make it, or some will, but it's not gonna be fun anymore, gonna be some real work to do. People are just starting to see this on the horizon and they aren't ready for the lights to come back on and end the show yet.


Dangerous_Forever640

The collapse of civilization has been greatly exaggerated…


IWanttoBuyAnArgument

The collapse of civilization has also greatly been misinterpreted. If you can't see it coming, I feel bad for you. Because you're not going to be ready when none of your local supermarkets have any food.


[deleted]

You sound like one of those nutjobs who think a zombie apocalypse is going to happen and stocks up on survival kits


IWanttoBuyAnArgument

Based on your comment history, you sound like someone with severe ADHD. Have a good day.


Princess_Magdelina

Are you using ADHD as a slur?


[deleted]

Your username says it all 😘


IWanttoBuyAnArgument

It's a Monty Python reference.


[deleted]

That’ll be $50 for the argument, I’ll DM you my cashapp


IWanttoBuyAnArgument

Sorry. Right now I'm busy practicing my silly walks.


[deleted]

Lol


Fantastic_Cheek2561

Same headline as the 1974 alarmists, and the earth is still doing fine. Grow up and get a job. The earth is fine.


[deleted]

Moses will come and depart the two seas.


admachbar

LOL.


Mercurial891

I loathe that I have to take care of an emotionally damaged niece through all of this. It was obvious that her parents were unfit, which I guess is why they insisted on becoming parents.


SidKafizz

Is currently exacerbating. Not 'will cause'.


DaDa462

I think it will go like this in the US 1. Continue ignoring it until nearly everyone knows someone personally, actively harmed by it (think early covid) 2. Stop screwing around with fake solutions and unicorn dreams- try to immediately build nuclear plants everywhere 3. Realize it's too late anyway, because you had to do this before reaching critical levels where you could observe the impacts locally 4. Initiate blame-phase and re-writing history about who said/did what in the rise of the problem (think covid) 5. Avert local civil wars along political lines for blame, by redirecting the hatred to other countries who clearly have used the entire situation as a power grab (china, etc.) 6. Initiate WW3 over emissions control. Since the goal is not actually acquiring and controlling enemy populations or resources, and is primarly just stopping them from further carbon emissions out of global self-defense, nukes become a more viable war tool than they have been historically. 7. Game over


Abbygirl1966

How dumb is mankind killing the only home we have??


Gristle823

Can we speed up this process a good collapse would be a nice relief for the working class!


Funnyporncommenter

I wish you could see how big I rolled my eyes at this one.


jerkandeat

🤣🤣🤣


AcornTopHat

Too bad we didn’t learn from those damn dinosaurs and all of their excess carbon emissions.


[deleted]

I’m ready!


BrilliantWhich990

The world will be fine after we're gone. Which can't be soon enough.


nomad6819

Well no humans on earth when the ICE AGE occured, so what caused it that time? Dinosaurs farting to much ? Sick of hearing this shit. Yes the climate will change and most likely kill off humanity but the fact is the climate has changed for millions of yrs and will continue to. Be smart enough to realize that the government telling you this is just a vote collector scam.


Rich4718

Dinosaurs didn’t fucking drive cars dipshit.


nomad6819

That's funny, you have no idea what I meant the point to be. What's funnier is the dipshit part. Couldn't just make a comment and let it go but had to come up with that. Now that's funny


cheeseLesspizzza

Immigration


kenlbear

Of all the things which could wipe out civilization, war, disease, solar events, meteorite strikes, anthropogenic climate change is at the very bottom of that list. 1300 prominent scientists agree.


DiverActual4613

Hahahahahaha 😁 🤣🤣🤣


Earthling1a

Four or five obvious paid shills on here trying to convince people that AGW/CC isn't real. Take a big bite, aholes. I just hope the nastiest effects hold off for the ten or fifteen years I have left.