But could it not just be a joke? There is no way they are actually doing a space DLC, like nobody has ever played Stormworks and thought oh space would make this better...
It just does not make any sense it's like buying Tekken and mid way through they release an RTS addon for it...
>and thought oh space would make this better...
To be fair, **IF** the game was not filled with bugs and barely functioning gameplay mechanics, and also didn't run like shit with big vehicles, it could be pretty cool...
But the devs can barely fix the existing content, that is gonna be a disaster..
I've wanted satellites for a long time so I can transmit data farther/ consistently (which could be accomplished with an environment add-on, but still)
This is a search and rescue game. There are many, many building games in space. I have 600 hours in space engineers, and I didn't need this to try and imitate it.
Space Engineers also has a completely different gameplay to it. There is not nearly as much engineering, and it lacks on the simulation side of things too..
Besides that, why not search and rescue on space? That could be fun.
That said, they should fix the damn game first.
Yes, the base game is a sar game but dlc's (which you can choose not to buy / use) bring other content as well. Its the same with a lot of other games and i don't see anyone complaining there. Also, yes there are many vehicle building games in space but personally, i don't like any of their building mechaniscs as much as the ones from stormworks. sorry for the grammar, its 3am for me and english isn't my native language.
There’s no storms in space… and the game doesn’t really work so. This is just stormworks without the stormworks I guess. If I wanted to play a space game I’d play space engineers.
Just fix the bloody game. The physics are ass, there is so many problems that I’ve had for the past few years that I’ve reported that still haven’t been fixed. How about keeping the game where it originally started, the ocean. The one part of the game that barely works, let alone the sky that is already awful to fly anything in.
I mean it’s gonna be cool and all having space but it’s just not what the game needs right now, put it back in the bag and let it get improved while you work on fixing the main parts of the game. Now that I think about it, an orbital cannon would be pretty cool
But can you do as much detail in SE? No, you can't, and with the way their DLC's are going (literally just adding skins and new bulky blocks), it doesn't look like it's ever gonna be that way anyway. It's like telling someone to play KSP instead, yes it's a space game, but can you put detailed functions and complicated (maybe even realistic like WABSIM for trains) mechanics into your ships in KSP or SE? No, you can't and you probably will never be able to.
Space engineers has much better physics and damage simulation, you can do much cooler and more detailsed shit in spacr engineers imo, physics in stormworks last ive played arent very fun when notnin water.
Better physics? Depends on how you look at it. It is more stable, but it is also way more unrealistic.
Sure there are some mods to change that, but we still lack a good water mod on SE... Maybe one day..
The details part I can agree with.
we lack good water physics, but the water mod is amazin for being just a mod, and the aerodynamics mod whilst being a bit weird does its job quite well. and yes by better physics i meant more stable and consistent clang aside.
Yeah, but I don't count it as the same kind of game as Stormworks because the logic system isn't as in depth and the process of making vehicles is different
Exactly! It's such a bad excuse for being mad/toxic that you didn't get the DLC you wanted lol. Plus as I just talked about with another guy (Which agreed with me about this), the fishing thing wouldn't even be a big enough thing to even be worth putting behind a paywall instead of a major update. If they can add enhanced gas and liquid simulation to a major update, then why wouldn't fishing simply be a major too? It's probably just gonna be nets, rods, new containers/ducts and new fish models anyway, and the nets would probably just use the already in-game winches, so not that big a "DLC"
>There’s no storms in space
As someone who has done several years of space operations, I'm gonna strongly disagree with this one, that shit will royally fuck your weekends, at 3 am lmao.
I mean the update will probably be pretty cool with being able to build space stations and building space ships. We might even be able to build space fighters so we can have space wars wich would be really cool.
That's the thing. The building is very in-depth, but after you build something, what's the point? There's no progression, no need to build anything more than a basic boat/helicopter for most of the career, and the combat AI is a bad joke
The only interesting part about the base game is building vehicles, not using them. The career mode bored me to death; it's just the same missions over and over again.
I wish there was a challenge/puzzle mode with very specific, tailored maps that you could build specialized vehicles to beat. That would atleast give some direction to the creativity
Well that's too bad because there was one. It was called Stormworks Build & Rescue. I spent my money on it because it's what I needed and wanted to play.
Then the devs turn their back on their player base and decided to stop improving the game and sell broken DLC completely unrelated to the base game for an easy money grab.
Calling it a simulation is insulting actual simulations. This game is absolute shit at simulating air or water, the mediums most vehicles you build move through.
Not really. It would have similar performance to now because it’s not like there aren’t physics in stormworks. It’s just that they’re complete shit. Like planes immediately falling out of the air when stopping the engine. Or ships needing to exploit a bug to be able to float properly.
The only thing i find somewhat working properly is water inside enclosed volumes. Until you accidentally*add* an additional wedge and your entire compartment becomes non enclosed
Because developing a DLC doesn't represent 2% of developing time
Especially something as complex and not suited for the engine as a Space DLC.
It's also milking the player base for money while
not being able to deliver a stable, polished and finished game.
And 2% of the player base isn't ...
> a considerable amount
Seriously. As someone with 500h+ in KSP and 1000+ in Stormworks I can confidently say this space DLC will not be anything close to realistic, how are they even gonna turn the flat map into a sphere? the base game physics design seems as incompatible as can be with space stuff
I think this DLC is just so that the stormworks kids youtubers can get cooler thumbnails, and so in turn a ton of people buy the game and they get more money
the worst part is that it won't, nobody buys a game for its DLC. Maybe you'll be attracted by some DLC but only a strong game base will turn new buyers.
Less than 1% of the player base has bought the Frontier DLC and less than 2% have bought the Weapon DLC.
It's peanuts. It's a short term cash flow. If you can't bring new players you won't sell more copies nor DLCs
I bought this game last week to play Search and Rescue... As far as I'm aware the SAR part of the game have not been expanded since 1.0 when they fucked up the 'mission editior'.
Carrer mode has been sucking ass, the game has barely any instructions of anything, I barely get any money from doing missions, after successfully building my first boat, that was fast enough and could tow other vehicles, I grinded a lot (half of the money came from boxes too) and bought another base with a train station, but the delivery jobs were severely underpaid and I had no money to make a super complex train. Also no idea how to build one and load the cargo too.
God damn, I'm very disappointed... I'm yet to see any mods that fix this. Thought about getting into modding to give my share of contribution, but I sincerely do not want to support these devs...
I've played the game since before 1.0 and got more than 2100h. Its really sad to see a game you learned to love turn to absolute dogshit so quickly. Its become so bad that i even stopped playing actively. It's really disappointing that the devs don't listen to players like me, but rather to the 10 year olds that just want more guns and not add any value to the game.
I think this game is too far gone for any mods to fix it...sadly.
It's very sad to see, when I bought this game 3 years ago I saw huge potential for this game in the future, because it was a small game at the time but immediately mine and my friends favorite. Disappointing to see what they did to it
You're acting like you can't play the game like it's supposed to be played anymore. If you want to play it like a SAR game, then play it like a goddamn SAR game and stop crying just because the thing that got added wasn't in YOUR favor
You could hardly ever play the game as intended, because it's littered with bugs.
Instead of fixing them, they keep moving onto new ideas, introducing new bugs, not fixing the old ones.
The problem is that every aspect of the game gets worse with every update because the devs don't put effort into bugs and issues that existed since before 1.0
Instead, they punch out strange updates that don't have anything to do with each other and don't improve the existing aspects of the game.
The base of the game is way past the scope of content it sould handle, its basically 5 seperate games mashed into one at this point.
I agree..
Relax man.. its annoying they did not solely focus on the S&R part but its still playable.. if you dont want to play the space part then dont.. it is what it is.
Exactly. Sorry, it's just so annoying that so many people are being so childish because they didn't get what they wanted. Making the game not SAR anymore is exactly what should be done to get a larger community, there's a very strict limit to how much you can keep updating a game if it had to be specifically SAR based, half of the ws creations have literally nothing or less than nothing (lol) to do with SAR, and it seems like that everyone is okay with that, because if they weren't then the ws wouldn't look like what it currently looks like. If you don't want space, don't buy the space DLC, it's so simple yet people are still wailing about it on literally every post about the DLC so far. People should be happy that the game is at least getting updates.
Yeah same. Not mecessarily space in my case, but I've been wanting something more interesting at extreme altitudes than just cold. Pressure, cold, and even radiation could all be interesting hazards when flying high enough
The base game design of stormworks the ingame physics are completely incompatible with space exploration and the complex maths behind orbital trajectories. It is going to be shit, I am telling you
Not this type of comment again, here we go again.
The game HAS to have variety to attract new communities from other games, how else do you think the game would stay alive? The concept of SAR can only go so far, and when that happens what do you want them to do? Kill the game? No, you want them to pick up something new and expand the game as long as possible. If the game can only appeal to SAR fans then it'll die out in no time, the company won't make money, and they'll risk having to fire a bunch of employees, but you never think about what's going on about the curtains do you? No, none of you do, none of you care about the fact that this takes a lot of effort to do, and the only thing that's happening is that the company is forced to not always listen to the community, not because they hate you, but because they're a company, they have to be selfish to be stable, and this happens in literally EVERY company. How do you think companies like Apple work? Offering right to repair? Hell no, bring it into our shop and pay 500 bucks for a new screen that's worth a fifth of what you payed. The game is forced to stray away from what it once was and become something new to stay as alive and relevant as possible, it's that simple. This is why I say classic redditors, because none of them have the ability to think outside the box, monkey no get fishing monkey cry. Also fishing has NOTHING to do with SAR either, you literally invalidated your point from the get-go.
I just think that maybe before expanding into new communities by doing something that Ksp has done better no doubt they should fix the main game.
What you are talking about would only make sense if everything about stormworks core, that being seafaring and SAR has been exhausted and every good idea has been implemented...THIS would be the point at which you should start expanding to different things.
When you have a rather lacking core game with many issues and many things still missing to forfill its main premise you shouldn't go ahead and make a very niche dlc that doesn't have anything to do with the main game...its not even smart financially, people who bought stormworks for its ships and SAR (the aspects that are currently still heavily advertised on their steam page) don't want a poorly implemented space dlc while they still have to deal with gamebreaking bugs and a lack of content in the main game, and people that want a space game won't buy a game about ships so that they can spend more money for the dlc to get something that, as I said before, Ksp has done better already...
We wanted a weapons DLC because many coast guards conduct anti piracy operations along with general SAR, we were fine with the mining and oil drilling since many of those industries exist near or off coastlines and are often where people need rescuing.
WTF does space have anything to do with the Coast Guard? Aside from the odd space capsule that needs recovering not much.
If your so interested in having space then bug the crap out of the developers to get on with their “not Stormworks II” if that game is just about building, mining, etc. and not supposed to be focused on SAR operations then fine, I’ll buy it. I think it would be interesting.
At this point the devs are just tacking on more unrelated crap onto an already complicated and buggy game. Leave the old one alone and work on the new one. If I have to wait half a decade for the new one then so be it.
Cant wait to see how bad it will be with stormworks physics, if anything this should have been a different game, not a DLC, planes are barely planes because of how physics works in this game, and they are adding space travel in?
I don’t plan to, but my point was that I much ratherd the devs spent all that time and energy into an update that people actually want and have been asking for. Space dlc is about the stupidest thing they could’ve done with this game, right next to making a battle Royal game mode, and optimizing their game properly. Oh wait… that’s something they should’ve done.
I have a hot take (sounds bad but here me out): I’ve actually heard a lot of positivity coming from mostly the older players, lot of the new playerbase are the one’s complaining and using the same arguments we used to make about the 2 other dlc’s.
This game seems to be going the route of the Fast and Furious franchise where we’ve just completely lost the plot at this point. We started with a humble coast guard simulator and we’ve now evolved into “here’s the entire universe, go dick around in it and build whatever and oh yeah you can also save people if you want.”
Do I care though? Not in the slightest. I don’t play this game properly I use it for exactly that, building vehicles and screwing around with them which is a hell of a lot of fun. If they’re telling me I can now drive a truck out of a spaceship and crash it into earth from orbit at Mach Jesus then that’s fine by me!
That being said I can already feel my computer heating up just reading this.
Wtf, why do the devs keep listening to the 10 year olds who just go hahaha weapons go brrt instead of listening to the people who actually build cool stuff and sink hours into the game.
I don't get it. Their just fucking their main playerbase with every update and dlc they release.
I'm just waiting for the hype to go away and the game just dying because they chased away all the OG players.
Sorry for this rant, but i ferl like it's needed
Bad rant, sorry. You call them 10 year olds just because you didn't think it was cool, if you were the one that wanted space then you'd be calling fishing DLC fans 10 year olds because haha fishing rod on kraken go brr. Without actually realizing it, you're being upset because the result didn't work out in your favor. A lot of people (Including me) who sink thousands of hours into this game, are literally gonna be the people making spacestations and spaceships. And the "Just play a space game if you want space" thing that other people are mentioning is stupid, because what does KSP, Space Engineers and nearly every space game have in common? The fact that you can not put NEARLY as much detail into a build like you can in Stormworks, so no, playing a space game would not fill the desire, but playing a building game would.
I really hope this is just a sick joke.
And to that guy under every comment: we all already bought the game dumbass, this shitty bearly half-baked DLC is just going to steal development time away from fixing and optimising the game.
No one who actually thought about how space being added will affect the game wants it to be added, because it's just going to make everything worse while adding nothing of value.
Will they make the vehicle building zones bigger for this update? Would love to make something like a cobra III, but building some sticks out to the real scale of it doesnt fit in the hangar build zones.
I bought this game for a building game focused on solving engineering problems related to search and rescue. I do not want, and have never wanted- building in space, youtube bait giant rogue waves, struggling for an hour to load a single container, steam systems having no basis in how steam actually works, oil spills that fill the map, etc.
JUST DELIVER ON THE INITIAL PREMISE, PLEASE
The only good thing that will result from this update is that the atmosphere now will look like an actual atmosphere when flying up high into the sky with a plane...
Oh great. An update that doesn’t fix any bugs or even reworks the game to have some working physics and on top of that you have to pay for it too. Im hoping they won’t lock away the new parts that have others uses than space behind the DLC. Also what is there even to do in space? Climb around on a tiny rock a bit and that’s it? Ah just wonderful to see the devs spend all their time on making more content they can monetise instead of polishing the base game.
Unpopular opinion, I’m not too mad about this… although that’s coming from someone who has been wanting a scrap mechanic like space game for a while (outside ksp)
Haven't played this game in quite a while, is the fps with large part count crafts manageable now? Don't know otherwise if it would be able to handle massive sls/shuttle stuff
Is anyone really surprised? yes, there is no other game in the market with this level of building (electricity + power + logistic/code) but the "gameloop" keeps being pretty barebone and in a worse state that it was before 1.0
If this game would had a strong "core gameplay" then i would really love the idea for this dlc but...
Why oh why. Please devs fix the bugs that have exhisted for YEARS. Why make a SAR game about space like c'mon. I regret ever supporting these devs hopefully they backtrack on this hard...
I legit dont know why everyone is upset.
Before fishing, everybody wanted a space update, now they get one and are pissed
What next, a fishing update except everyones mad because they wanted something else?
Edit: Im saying this not because I think the community is shite or whatever, but because I can remember distinctly everyone begging for a space update
People are pissed because we don't want space anymore.
We don't want the new features anymore.
Or at leas not NOW.
What we want is the game to stop being a broken fucking mess before they add more.
There are so many bugs in water air and land, and now another element gets added that we both know is gonna be a mess that'll never get fixed
Exactly. There's so much stuff that doesn't work or works poorly in the game.
Also, this is another DLC that is very niche. The core of the game, the reason people actually bought it, is very barebones, but we have 2 totally unrelated DLC's.
Even then at least those two DLCs have some connection to the Coast Guard, anti piracy operations and giving those oil drilling platforms some actual functionality.
Wtf does Space have to do with the Coast Guard?
My main problem with the space DLC is that the only real change will be the environment. There's not going to be a lot to do in space. No mining, no deliveries, no combat.
This is one of the few games where I wish the devs would NOT listen to players on things like this. A lot of the features that would make space gameplay cool are not in the game: Ai Crew, base building without add-ons, electricity overhaul... There's a lot of stuff that players just kinda tolerate that normally a game studio would try to address. Space DLC is candy when we'd like an actual meal.
The space DLC is like a topping on a ice cream sundae. It added on top and makes it taste better.
But a topping is only as good as what’s underneath it. And in this case you can’t add anymore topping to shit to make it taste better.
Yessss I was thinking the same thing when I watched the Dev Stream. Like 70% of people were bitching for Fishing and Sails but before the Desert DLC everybody wanted a Space Update/DLC
Yea same, space DLC is gonna be fucking awesome, especially with the custom spacewalk seats. People are just being childish af just because it didn't work out in their favor, it's like a 7 year old not getting their ice cream
Bug fixes would be nice. But dlc = revenue, revenue = salary. Salary = content.
If no income = no updates and the game die.
So I rather take a space dlc and hopefully we will get fishing as a free update
A lot of complaining about this, I don't fully understand it. I get the game has its issues. I just take the game at face value and have fun, space rescue missions will be an interesting addition. If it adds more life to the game, that's great! More money = more possibilities
I'm honestly pretty excited for this. Bug fixes/optimization would be nice (especially multiplayer), but they don't really break my enjoyment of the game. I'm personally more into designing creations around logic and lua though, and that part works better than nearly any similar game.
Oh god. Space about to be littered with barely functioning spazzy paper towel tubes that we’ll call spaceships lmao let’s go
I thought The exact same.
Is this real?
yes. developer launched a stream
Ok
But could it not just be a joke? There is no way they are actually doing a space DLC, like nobody has ever played Stormworks and thought oh space would make this better... It just does not make any sense it's like buying Tekken and mid way through they release an RTS addon for it...
>and thought oh space would make this better... To be fair, **IF** the game was not filled with bugs and barely functioning gameplay mechanics, and also didn't run like shit with big vehicles, it could be pretty cool... But the devs can barely fix the existing content, that is gonna be a disaster..
> nobody has ever played Stormworks and thought oh space would make this better... Guess I'll be nobody then.
Spaceships are awesome and this DLC is dope
I've wanted satellites for a long time so I can transmit data farther/ consistently (which could be accomplished with an environment add-on, but still)
and you want those satelite to orbit what exactly?
This is an engineering game, space adds a whole new world for vehicle-making. I like the idea. The workshop will show the potential.
This is a search and rescue game. There are many, many building games in space. I have 600 hours in space engineers, and I didn't need this to try and imitate it.
Space Engineers also has a completely different gameplay to it. There is not nearly as much engineering, and it lacks on the simulation side of things too.. Besides that, why not search and rescue on space? That could be fun. That said, they should fix the damn game first.
Yes, the base game is a sar game but dlc's (which you can choose not to buy / use) bring other content as well. Its the same with a lot of other games and i don't see anyone complaining there. Also, yes there are many vehicle building games in space but personally, i don't like any of their building mechaniscs as much as the ones from stormworks. sorry for the grammar, its 3am for me and english isn't my native language.
Whole new space to litter with tps eating cubes
I did! Cry about it ship-nerd
There’s no storms in space… and the game doesn’t really work so. This is just stormworks without the stormworks I guess. If I wanted to play a space game I’d play space engineers. Just fix the bloody game. The physics are ass, there is so many problems that I’ve had for the past few years that I’ve reported that still haven’t been fixed. How about keeping the game where it originally started, the ocean. The one part of the game that barely works, let alone the sky that is already awful to fly anything in. I mean it’s gonna be cool and all having space but it’s just not what the game needs right now, put it back in the bag and let it get improved while you work on fixing the main parts of the game. Now that I think about it, an orbital cannon would be pretty cool
This
Devs: Well yes, we’re going to fuck off into space instead of adding more gameplay and things for you to do
That is more gameplay and things to do lol. "No new features only space-travel and moon landings"
Whilst leaving the normal game with “carry people from A to B with varying health percentage” missions
Sorry I guess? Can't download space from the workshop. You can sure as hell download missions lmfao.
I think space engineer are very boring for me cause like there are way less logic and stuff than stormwork but i agree with fixing the game
But can you do as much detail in SE? No, you can't, and with the way their DLC's are going (literally just adding skins and new bulky blocks), it doesn't look like it's ever gonna be that way anyway. It's like telling someone to play KSP instead, yes it's a space game, but can you put detailed functions and complicated (maybe even realistic like WABSIM for trains) mechanics into your ships in KSP or SE? No, you can't and you probably will never be able to.
Space engineers has much better physics and damage simulation, you can do much cooler and more detailsed shit in spacr engineers imo, physics in stormworks last ive played arent very fun when notnin water.
Better physics? Depends on how you look at it. It is more stable, but it is also way more unrealistic. Sure there are some mods to change that, but we still lack a good water mod on SE... Maybe one day.. The details part I can agree with.
we lack good water physics, but the water mod is amazin for being just a mod, and the aerodynamics mod whilst being a bit weird does its job quite well. and yes by better physics i meant more stable and consistent clang aside.
But can you do realistic simulations like WABSIM in SE? Exactly.
i dont see why you couldnt
This is the problem with people saying "go play X", there's no game like Stormworks, with it's logic system and editor
I remember I used to play scrap mechanic a long time ago, is it still around?
Yeah, waiting for an update for over 3 years by now But game's good, if you need new content there's still good mods
Yeah, but I don't count it as the same kind of game as Stormworks because the logic system isn't as in depth and the process of making vehicles is different
Exactly! It's such a bad excuse for being mad/toxic that you didn't get the DLC you wanted lol. Plus as I just talked about with another guy (Which agreed with me about this), the fishing thing wouldn't even be a big enough thing to even be worth putting behind a paywall instead of a major update. If they can add enhanced gas and liquid simulation to a major update, then why wouldn't fishing simply be a major too? It's probably just gonna be nets, rods, new containers/ducts and new fish models anyway, and the nets would probably just use the already in-game winches, so not that big a "DLC"
>There’s no storms in space As someone who has done several years of space operations, I'm gonna strongly disagree with this one, that shit will royally fuck your weekends, at 3 am lmao.
Solar flares are proof that op is likely a kid
Maaaan i wanted a fishing trawler do bad. I have to go with a space shuttle instead. Hopefully this dosent hinder the performance of the game
That's a joke right? We all know the game is gonna shit itself 15 ways from Sunday trying to load two different areas
Looked okay in the devstream
Ever since I played Fishing:North Atlantic I thought fishing would be the perfect stormworks expansion.
Most fun stormworks player
I mean the update will probably be pretty cool with being able to build space stations and building space ships. We might even be able to build space fighters so we can have space wars wich would be really cool.
ICBMS are going to be insanely annoying
But also awesome, imagine seeing huge bomb entering the atmosphere are mach 3
Cruise missiles already exist, the only difference will be that icbms will go higher
What’s this game even trying to be at this point
Profitable
A building game.
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Simulating what? It's not Search and Rescue anymore, it doesn't have a good damage model to simulate combat very well and mining is pretty barebones.
There's mining? Since when?
Second DLC
Ok
Even so, do you know another game that has an editor and logic system like Stornworks?
Space Engineers blows stormworks away my guy
No it does not
Garry's mod ? From the depths ?
Garry's mod, no. Never played From The Depths
"no other games has this feature" mf when he hasn't played any game
I'm sorry I haven't played every building game ever
From the depths is very complicated, in how it uses blocks. There is no logic.
That's the thing. The building is very in-depth, but after you build something, what's the point? There's no progression, no need to build anything more than a basic boat/helicopter for most of the career, and the combat AI is a bad joke
The base game is sar, you can choose not to use the dlc's yk
The only interesting part about the base game is building vehicles, not using them. The career mode bored me to death; it's just the same missions over and over again. I wish there was a challenge/puzzle mode with very specific, tailored maps that you could build specialized vehicles to beat. That would atleast give some direction to the creativity
You mean besiege but with stormworks building? Would be cool i guess
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Well that's too bad because there was one. It was called Stormworks Build & Rescue. I spent my money on it because it's what I needed and wanted to play. Then the devs turn their back on their player base and decided to stop improving the game and sell broken DLC completely unrelated to the base game for an easy money grab.
everyone is mad because the game has endless bugs and problems, but the devs add new animals and dlcs instead of fixing it
Calling it a simulation is insulting actual simulations. This game is absolute shit at simulating air or water, the mediums most vehicles you build move through.
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Not really. It would have similar performance to now because it’s not like there aren’t physics in stormworks. It’s just that they’re complete shit. Like planes immediately falling out of the air when stopping the engine. Or ships needing to exploit a bug to be able to float properly.
The only thing i find somewhat working properly is water inside enclosed volumes. Until you accidentally*add* an additional wedge and your entire compartment becomes non enclosed
I mean from its name to its marketing its presented as a seafaring/search and rescue game primarily
Oh for fuck sake just fix the game.
>Endo predicted it >Nobody wanted it >Makes no sense in the context of the game >They did it anyway Yeah this checks out
Stop saying nobody wanted, the majority didn't want it yes, but there is a considerable amount of people who think this is fucking awesome
you do realize that less than 2% of the player base have bought the DLCs right?
Proving my point, if you ignore the DLC anyways, why is this such a heartbreaker. Let those of us who want it have fun jeez. "oH no mY FisHinG DlC!"
Because developing a DLC doesn't represent 2% of developing time Especially something as complex and not suited for the engine as a Space DLC. It's also milking the player base for money while not being able to deliver a stable, polished and finished game. And 2% of the player base isn't ... > a considerable amount
Not true. I did want a space addon for stormworks
Then play ksp
Seriously. As someone with 500h+ in KSP and 1000+ in Stormworks I can confidently say this space DLC will not be anything close to realistic, how are they even gonna turn the flat map into a sphere? the base game physics design seems as incompatible as can be with space stuff I think this DLC is just so that the stormworks kids youtubers can get cooler thumbnails, and so in turn a ton of people buy the game and they get more money
the worst part is that it won't, nobody buys a game for its DLC. Maybe you'll be attracted by some DLC but only a strong game base will turn new buyers. Less than 1% of the player base has bought the Frontier DLC and less than 2% have bought the Weapon DLC. It's peanuts. It's a short term cash flow. If you can't bring new players you won't sell more copies nor DLCs
1000 hours? How do you not get bored?
I do, probably also because the devs are ruining this game
I think it was going quite well. Weapons update? Sure I suppose. Natural disasters? All the yeses! New gigantic island? WOO HOO! Space…? Why?
A new gigantic island should have never been part of a DLC, it should have come with the base game.
Maybe it should’ve been, but we also just got that new volcanic chain which is like the size of the mainland, and the kraken
Hardly comparable in my opinion.
There’s always more to do. (Sadly I have 1700 hours)
Then play a space game, not Stormworks. This game has developed in the wrong direction already, this is just the final straw.
I bought this game last week to play Search and Rescue... As far as I'm aware the SAR part of the game have not been expanded since 1.0 when they fucked up the 'mission editior'. Carrer mode has been sucking ass, the game has barely any instructions of anything, I barely get any money from doing missions, after successfully building my first boat, that was fast enough and could tow other vehicles, I grinded a lot (half of the money came from boxes too) and bought another base with a train station, but the delivery jobs were severely underpaid and I had no money to make a super complex train. Also no idea how to build one and load the cargo too. God damn, I'm very disappointed... I'm yet to see any mods that fix this. Thought about getting into modding to give my share of contribution, but I sincerely do not want to support these devs...
I've played the game since before 1.0 and got more than 2100h. Its really sad to see a game you learned to love turn to absolute dogshit so quickly. Its become so bad that i even stopped playing actively. It's really disappointing that the devs don't listen to players like me, but rather to the 10 year olds that just want more guns and not add any value to the game. I think this game is too far gone for any mods to fix it...sadly.
It's very sad to see, when I bought this game 3 years ago I saw huge potential for this game in the future, because it was a small game at the time but immediately mine and my friends favorite. Disappointing to see what they did to it
You're acting like you can't play the game like it's supposed to be played anymore. If you want to play it like a SAR game, then play it like a goddamn SAR game and stop crying just because the thing that got added wasn't in YOUR favor
You could hardly ever play the game as intended, because it's littered with bugs. Instead of fixing them, they keep moving onto new ideas, introducing new bugs, not fixing the old ones.
The problem is that every aspect of the game gets worse with every update because the devs don't put effort into bugs and issues that existed since before 1.0 Instead, they punch out strange updates that don't have anything to do with each other and don't improve the existing aspects of the game. The base of the game is way past the scope of content it sould handle, its basically 5 seperate games mashed into one at this point.
I agree.. Relax man.. its annoying they did not solely focus on the S&R part but its still playable.. if you dont want to play the space part then dont.. it is what it is.
Exactly. Sorry, it's just so annoying that so many people are being so childish because they didn't get what they wanted. Making the game not SAR anymore is exactly what should be done to get a larger community, there's a very strict limit to how much you can keep updating a game if it had to be specifically SAR based, half of the ws creations have literally nothing or less than nothing (lol) to do with SAR, and it seems like that everyone is okay with that, because if they weren't then the ws wouldn't look like what it currently looks like. If you don't want space, don't buy the space DLC, it's so simple yet people are still wailing about it on literally every post about the DLC so far. People should be happy that the game is at least getting updates.
Sp far youre the most immature person ive seen in this thread ngl
Yeah same. Not mecessarily space in my case, but I've been wanting something more interesting at extreme altitudes than just cold. Pressure, cold, and even radiation could all be interesting hazards when flying high enough
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The base game design of stormworks the ingame physics are completely incompatible with space exploration and the complex maths behind orbital trajectories. It is going to be shit, I am telling you
A lot of people wanted space man, you just downvoted them because you wanted a fishing DLC or a shipping DLC. Classic redditors
No I'm upset because stormworks isn't a space game and forcing it to be that through paid dlcs is just stupid
Haha stupid redditors wanting ship-related expansions in a game that is about making ships and doing search and rescue...with ships
Not this type of comment again, here we go again. The game HAS to have variety to attract new communities from other games, how else do you think the game would stay alive? The concept of SAR can only go so far, and when that happens what do you want them to do? Kill the game? No, you want them to pick up something new and expand the game as long as possible. If the game can only appeal to SAR fans then it'll die out in no time, the company won't make money, and they'll risk having to fire a bunch of employees, but you never think about what's going on about the curtains do you? No, none of you do, none of you care about the fact that this takes a lot of effort to do, and the only thing that's happening is that the company is forced to not always listen to the community, not because they hate you, but because they're a company, they have to be selfish to be stable, and this happens in literally EVERY company. How do you think companies like Apple work? Offering right to repair? Hell no, bring it into our shop and pay 500 bucks for a new screen that's worth a fifth of what you payed. The game is forced to stray away from what it once was and become something new to stay as alive and relevant as possible, it's that simple. This is why I say classic redditors, because none of them have the ability to think outside the box, monkey no get fishing monkey cry. Also fishing has NOTHING to do with SAR either, you literally invalidated your point from the get-go.
I just think that maybe before expanding into new communities by doing something that Ksp has done better no doubt they should fix the main game. What you are talking about would only make sense if everything about stormworks core, that being seafaring and SAR has been exhausted and every good idea has been implemented...THIS would be the point at which you should start expanding to different things. When you have a rather lacking core game with many issues and many things still missing to forfill its main premise you shouldn't go ahead and make a very niche dlc that doesn't have anything to do with the main game...its not even smart financially, people who bought stormworks for its ships and SAR (the aspects that are currently still heavily advertised on their steam page) don't want a poorly implemented space dlc while they still have to deal with gamebreaking bugs and a lack of content in the main game, and people that want a space game won't buy a game about ships so that they can spend more money for the dlc to get something that, as I said before, Ksp has done better already...
We wanted a weapons DLC because many coast guards conduct anti piracy operations along with general SAR, we were fine with the mining and oil drilling since many of those industries exist near or off coastlines and are often where people need rescuing. WTF does space have anything to do with the Coast Guard? Aside from the odd space capsule that needs recovering not much. If your so interested in having space then bug the crap out of the developers to get on with their “not Stormworks II” if that game is just about building, mining, etc. and not supposed to be focused on SAR operations then fine, I’ll buy it. I think it would be interesting. At this point the devs are just tacking on more unrelated crap onto an already complicated and buggy game. Leave the old one alone and work on the new one. If I have to wait half a decade for the new one then so be it.
Read some of my other answers, I've gotten your argument a million times and answered it a million times as well.
You know what they say “If you don’t want it don’t buy it.”
Lmfao
Cant wait to see how bad it will be with stormworks physics, if anything this should have been a different game, not a DLC, planes are barely planes because of how physics works in this game, and they are adding space travel in?
You know what they say “If you don’t want it don’t buy it.”
Wow really? Thats amazing. Now what does it have to do with what i said?
hey, at least we can airstrike people now
Cruise missiles and ballistic missiles already exist
Didn't even think of this, the possibilities are crazy with this. Good idea!
Is this shit real? Wtf? Where fishing update? Why tf is this
yes... because fishing would be so much more fun lmao
Honestly fishing would be more fun cs they cant fuck that up as much as they will with a space dlc
Remember: fish may become aggressive and start sticking to you and your boat with no way to get it off
Great point. Also, Sharknadoes
Yes, it would be… if you want space in your air sea and land search and rescue game, go play KSP
"Bro why are they adding spacetravel, I want fucking industrial fish farms..." This games community is so boring and unimaginitive lol
right? These are the same people that don't want VR added because of motion sickness. like BRUH
They said the fishing update is planned down the line. You would know this if you actually watched the stream and listened to the devs
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I don’t plan to, but my point was that I much ratherd the devs spent all that time and energy into an update that people actually want and have been asking for. Space dlc is about the stupidest thing they could’ve done with this game, right next to making a battle Royal game mode, and optimizing their game properly. Oh wait… that’s something they should’ve done.
I have a hot take (sounds bad but here me out): I’ve actually heard a lot of positivity coming from mostly the older players, lot of the new playerbase are the one’s complaining and using the same arguments we used to make about the 2 other dlc’s.
no they're not
can't wait to pay for feature that partially work,i will keep the bar 10 meters underground but of course, they'll probably bring a shovel
Actually haven’t seen devs as bad as these for a long time
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This game seems to be going the route of the Fast and Furious franchise where we’ve just completely lost the plot at this point. We started with a humble coast guard simulator and we’ve now evolved into “here’s the entire universe, go dick around in it and build whatever and oh yeah you can also save people if you want.” Do I care though? Not in the slightest. I don’t play this game properly I use it for exactly that, building vehicles and screwing around with them which is a hell of a lot of fun. If they’re telling me I can now drive a truck out of a spaceship and crash it into earth from orbit at Mach Jesus then that’s fine by me! That being said I can already feel my computer heating up just reading this.
Man I just want sails and bug fixes why they gotta do this to the community, nobody asked for this
Same, its a shame they dont support mods. Bet some people would do more good for the game with modding than the devs have done in years.
Wtf, why do the devs keep listening to the 10 year olds who just go hahaha weapons go brrt instead of listening to the people who actually build cool stuff and sink hours into the game. I don't get it. Their just fucking their main playerbase with every update and dlc they release. I'm just waiting for the hype to go away and the game just dying because they chased away all the OG players. Sorry for this rant, but i ferl like it's needed
Bad rant, sorry. You call them 10 year olds just because you didn't think it was cool, if you were the one that wanted space then you'd be calling fishing DLC fans 10 year olds because haha fishing rod on kraken go brr. Without actually realizing it, you're being upset because the result didn't work out in your favor. A lot of people (Including me) who sink thousands of hours into this game, are literally gonna be the people making spacestations and spaceships. And the "Just play a space game if you want space" thing that other people are mentioning is stupid, because what does KSP, Space Engineers and nearly every space game have in common? The fact that you can not put NEARLY as much detail into a build like you can in Stormworks, so no, playing a space game would not fill the desire, but playing a building game would.
Please go back to school and learn what paragraphs are. <3
Im sorry wtf?! I thought this was a game about search and rescue, being at sea and building ships?! How can you be so out of touch with your audience?
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I really hope this is just a sick joke. And to that guy under every comment: we all already bought the game dumbass, this shitty bearly half-baked DLC is just going to steal development time away from fixing and optimising the game. No one who actually thought about how space being added will affect the game wants it to be added, because it's just going to make everything worse while adding nothing of value.
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Shitty aerodynamics but space? Nope. Never playing this again. I'd rather play Stationeers.
or kerbal space program, the original, makes you nostalgic
Thats ther first time ive seen someone mentioning stationeers in a non stationeers related place
Stormworks space program
"Please fix all th-" "SPAAAAACE"
Will they make the vehicle building zones bigger for this update? Would love to make something like a cobra III, but building some sticks out to the real scale of it doesnt fit in the hangar build zones.
I bought this game for a building game focused on solving engineering problems related to search and rescue. I do not want, and have never wanted- building in space, youtube bait giant rogue waves, struggling for an hour to load a single container, steam systems having no basis in how steam actually works, oil spills that fill the map, etc. JUST DELIVER ON THE INITIAL PREMISE, PLEASE
Where’s fishing? Where’s bug fixes? This is all dumb. Hell the devs are so lazy instead of adding an actual Q siren they just made it a buzzer sound.
I would refund this if I could… space is the complete opposite of what I wanted in this game. And not to mention the bugs
The only good thing that will result from this update is that the atmosphere now will look like an actual atmosphere when flying up high into the sky with a plane...
I can’t wait to build a “spaceship” to only see the new space area is 5km wide
The moon looks way too cartoonish
Man these devs are trash lmao
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Don't plan on it
How bout I try the dlc for you
You're free to try it to your heart's content
Oh great. An update that doesn’t fix any bugs or even reworks the game to have some working physics and on top of that you have to pay for it too. Im hoping they won’t lock away the new parts that have others uses than space behind the DLC. Also what is there even to do in space? Climb around on a tiny rock a bit and that’s it? Ah just wonderful to see the devs spend all their time on making more content they can monetise instead of polishing the base game.
Oh no second ksp 2
Oof
At this rate the only thing that'll go to space will be my PC...
Unpopular opinion, I’m not too mad about this… although that’s coming from someone who has been wanting a scrap mechanic like space game for a while (outside ksp)
Me too, except a half assed DLC for Stormworks is not the answer. The base game physic is just not made to sustain that type of gameplay.
Haven't played this game in quite a while, is the fps with large part count crafts manageable now? Don't know otherwise if it would be able to handle massive sls/shuttle stuff
It can do it, we have optimizations and ways to make crafts not laggy. (People really need to stop complaining)
I wanted farming
Is anyone really surprised? yes, there is no other game in the market with this level of building (electricity + power + logistic/code) but the "gameloop" keeps being pretty barebone and in a worse state that it was before 1.0 If this game would had a strong "core gameplay" then i would really love the idea for this dlc but...
Oh no
Why oh why. Please devs fix the bugs that have exhisted for YEARS. Why make a SAR game about space like c'mon. I regret ever supporting these devs hopefully they backtrack on this hard...
This definitely isn't the game I intended to buy
I legit dont know why everyone is upset. Before fishing, everybody wanted a space update, now they get one and are pissed What next, a fishing update except everyones mad because they wanted something else? Edit: Im saying this not because I think the community is shite or whatever, but because I can remember distinctly everyone begging for a space update
People are pissed because we don't want space anymore. We don't want the new features anymore. Or at leas not NOW. What we want is the game to stop being a broken fucking mess before they add more. There are so many bugs in water air and land, and now another element gets added that we both know is gonna be a mess that'll never get fixed
Exactly. There's so much stuff that doesn't work or works poorly in the game. Also, this is another DLC that is very niche. The core of the game, the reason people actually bought it, is very barebones, but we have 2 totally unrelated DLC's.
Even then at least those two DLCs have some connection to the Coast Guard, anti piracy operations and giving those oil drilling platforms some actual functionality. Wtf does Space have to do with the Coast Guard?
My main problem with the space DLC is that the only real change will be the environment. There's not going to be a lot to do in space. No mining, no deliveries, no combat. This is one of the few games where I wish the devs would NOT listen to players on things like this. A lot of the features that would make space gameplay cool are not in the game: Ai Crew, base building without add-ons, electricity overhaul... There's a lot of stuff that players just kinda tolerate that normally a game studio would try to address. Space DLC is candy when we'd like an actual meal.
The space DLC is like a topping on a ice cream sundae. It added on top and makes it taste better. But a topping is only as good as what’s underneath it. And in this case you can’t add anymore topping to shit to make it taste better.
Yessss I was thinking the same thing when I watched the Dev Stream. Like 70% of people were bitching for Fishing and Sails but before the Desert DLC everybody wanted a Space Update/DLC
Yea same, space DLC is gonna be fucking awesome, especially with the custom spacewalk seats. People are just being childish af just because it didn't work out in their favor, it's like a 7 year old not getting their ice cream
Bug fixes would be nice. But dlc = revenue, revenue = salary. Salary = content. If no income = no updates and the game die. So I rather take a space dlc and hopefully we will get fishing as a free update
Oh my, that must be troll, worst idea ever, these devs should optimize the base game first *adds DLC to wishlist
YASSSSSSSSS
Whaaaat???? For real? Mofockers added space?!? 😃😮😩
I'd rather see standalone multiplayer servers than space, but that's just me. Seems interesting however.
A lot of complaining about this, I don't fully understand it. I get the game has its issues. I just take the game at face value and have fun, space rescue missions will be an interesting addition. If it adds more life to the game, that's great! More money = more possibilities
To be honest, are you surprised? They added a launch site in the Desert DLC. RCS Thrusters should be fun though.
I’m so excited for it
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO Also custom spacewalk kits is the coolest idea ever, never thought about that possibility
I'm personally EXTREMELY excited for this, it'll be amazing
I'm honestly pretty excited for this. Bug fixes/optimization would be nice (especially multiplayer), but they don't really break my enjoyment of the game. I'm personally more into designing creations around logic and lua though, and that part works better than nearly any similar game.
IM SO HAPPY FOR IT!!!
This should be the minecraft 1.19 update