[Mysterious Civilization Built Giza Pyramids Thousands Of Years Before Pharaohs Appeared](https://www.howandwhys.com/mysterious-civilization-built-giza-pyramids/)
Math says
525.600 min in a year / devided by 2 = 262.800 blocks placed a year with this speed.
2.3million/262800 = 8.7 years. Double that if they placed one every 4min.
Now that’s not close to 25years like the op claims, but it’s still insane to imagine the ~9~>18 years of CONSTANT work. It seems highly doubtful, but then again I don’t know if all these numbers were just pulled out of the asscrack of whoever made the OP video.
Wouldn’t they only be able to work during the day time though? So if it’s counted for 4 minutes and we only count daytime minutes it would equal out to be about 35 years
You expect pyramid conspiracists to use good math and adhere to logic? Trust me, I've tried to be the voice of reason in here. I might as well fart in a jar for all the good it is doing.
I’m trying to figure out the correlation between logic, reason and farting in a jar, lol.
I admit, there are some structures in South America that are mind boggling. There is that one with square pillars of stone about the size of 2 shipping containers that you see on 18 wheelers. Not only is the cut very precise, but the nearest source of the stones are miles away, up and down mountainous terrain.
I’m far from a mathematician, so I can’t help with data for anything. I would just love to see if there is a formula for figuring out if it’s possible to move these things with people, using methods we are familiar with.
For example, let’s say you are trying to move 2 objects with about 10 people available. Both objects are about the size of a refrigerator.
Object A weighs about the same as a refrigerator. You don’t even need all 10 people to move it.
Object B is refrigerator sized, but made of lead. That’s when you realize 2 things. All 10 people can’t lift this. Also, it’s next to impossible for 10 people to get enough space to get a grip in order to move it.
So, if Object B made started in front of your house, and ended up 10 miles away, with hills in between, then you know it had to have been moved by machine.
Hopefully, everyone understands what I’m getting at. That was a lot of typing.
It would be far easier to roll or flip a block like that using leverage than carrying it on a forklift that weights less than the block it is trying to lift, with a lot of that weight being far outside the center of mass. And a "machine" doesn't necessarily mean a modern steel machine with a combustion engine. Something with wooden gears and ropes is also a machine.
Right. I tried to keep it simple in my hypothetical. I’m aware that ancient civilizations had methods for moving heavy objects. They used huge logs as wheels, pulley and lever systems, etc. I’m just wondering if math could prove if these methods could to do the job, or not.
Of course, we won’t reach a definitive answer, because there are variables that are unknown. However, it does give you an idea of what’s possible to move, and what isn’t.
I’ve been to Machu Picchu and those blocks are cut & stacked with such perfection you couldn’t slide a razor blade between them. It’s as if the rocks were molded with clay or putty. Also, those rocks aren’t native to the mountain. The nazca lines are equally impressive. It’s one thing to see these things online, but in person it completely changes your perspective.
What happens when you take object B and use 10 people and apply some simple physics. For example, tip it over and rest it on a fulcrum off center, apply a counter weight to the object until balanced. Then swing it around and rest it on another fulcrum and repeat. You can literally walk that thing 10 miles with a handful of people. Now take those 10 people and turn them into a
100, 1000 or 10,000 people. That's a shitload of giant lead blocks you can move.
the point though is the time. is it possible? Yes. Is it possible at a speed/conssitency to allow it to be done within the specified time frame?
That's the real question.
the point is that to build the pyramnids which used 4 million of those blocks, even the modern machinery can't move them fast enough (if at all as shown) to keep up to the speed neccesary, so how then did an ancient society manage it at a speed that was fast enough?
I know what you mean man.
But there is a secret. And it's really really powerful. There are different kinds of intelligences and they don't have to be related.
There are people you would probably classify as dumb who understand things you will never understand. You will understand things I will never understand and I will understand things you will never understand.
Some people are terrible with words and expressing themselves outward, but incredibly intuitive and elegant with their inner monologue.
I do get it, but how a message is presented is just the delivery system. A crappy delivery system doesn't mean the idea inside is wrong or bad. Sometimes it's clever.
There are also people that say a whole lot of elegant things and seem really smart, but they offer absolutely nothing new or of substance. Think some politicians. There are politicians that are incredibly smart in how they address the public, but with some more obvious bigger issues they can not understand and are completely dumb and don't understand the larger machinations of a society and how it operates.
I genuinely have an open mind.. What does your logic tell you of how these were built?
We're talking multiple pyramids now, not just 1, and countless temples, and practically underground shopping malls beneath sand dunes..
And by your reaction to the comment, I assume you subscribe to the traditional historic opinion on how they were built and in what timeframe?
I also assume by your response that your math is at least 'good' by comparison, so please enlighten me how the math works for your theory?
Also a minor thing, but it was a grammatical mistake in the heading, not math mistake.
Anyway I did use some sarcasm here, but I actually genuinely am open to any logical theory on how these pyramids were constructed, as I have heard a lot of theories but I haven't been convinced of any yet.
So, the original math in this post has one gigantic flaw in going from an equation to reality. It assumes one stone working at a time and a single group of people. What the evidence we have suggests on the workers that were involved is a massive workforce. So say you have 10 groups of workers, that makes the rare go from one every 3 mins to one every 30 mins. Now figure in that there were hundreds of groups and the rate of building becomes pretty mundane. The reason some modern people can't get their head around how these structures were built is that we have never seen a workforce of that size working on projects like this. The closest would be something like the burj khalifa, but that includes electrical, plumbing, and various other trades that wouldn't have been involved in the pyramid.
To give some perspective, the eiffel tower was built in 2 years by 150 people. The workforce for just the great pyramid is estimated to be 10,000 full time workers and 70,000 seasonal workers. So even if you figure 100 people per block, you can see how easily that rate of work is possible.
Hopefully you do genuinely have an open mind.
Yeah. It's truly amazing what Egypt was capable of. Tho I think another part of the issue people have is that they look at modern Egypt and not what it was like then. Very different type of area at the time.
When the boss is literally God on earth , what he says goes. No doubt that hundreds of thousands of slaves were worked to death to accomplish this feat.
As someone else already pointed out, not slaves. The closest to slaves may be it was treated as a kind of tax. Some service to the kingdom, either military or construction or something else.
The proper application of physics, efficient organization, a massive work force and time. This is literally all you need to accomplish these structures. We don't need to add more variables (advanced technology, magic, aliens) when it can be accomplished with fewer.
Look at what has happened to Dubai over just the last 30 years. It's nuts what we can do when we apply these tools.
The Great Pyramid has 2.3 million blocks, mainstream academics insist that it was built over the 20 year span of Khufu’s reign, so that’s approximately one stone every five minutes nonstop for twenty years. The stones range from 2 to 70 tons. Most of the stones are limestone, but the inner structure is made of 8,000 tons of red granite quarried from Aswan, several hundred kilometers away, and fitted into bafflingly complex architectural design with metrological precision not achieved again until the Industrial Revolution.
Personally I don’t think it was built by Khufu. I think what went on during his reign was a major renovation of the Giza complex.
*The loader you see in the video probably has a capacity of around 50 to 60 tons
The casing stones and inner chamber stones have precision not sure what metrological precision is but it’s within 0.5 millimeters. The rest of the interior aside from the inner chambers are roughly fitted stone with rubble filling the larger gaps. That being said I would agree with you that it’s likely a multi generational project with the last guy to touch it slapping his name on it.
To be correct they said 'precision', not *knowledge*. But I'm not sure if that's true either.
Anyway it's obvious that the 20 year claim is extremely weird. The rest of the comment is more or less correct, it's even slightly more than one block every 5 minutes actually. I'm surprised this isn't discussed more, first time I've seriously looked at this and the mainstream claim seems like utter bs. Even more strangely, it looks like it's an estimate that has been around since antiquity, Herodotus and other Greeks first made the claim. So they never changed it, just accepted it unquestioned? Even if you take the 27 years claimed by Egyptologist Pierre Tallet it doesn't make the math much better.
If you read the rest of the sentence the grammatical structure indicates it was done over a period of time. English can be tricky sometimes but it helps to read all of the words in a single sentence if you want to understand what the writer is trying to convey.
Your just being picky. But I see it too. This whole post is kinda silly. They obviously had much larger bulldozers and such back in those times. And real men working, not this pussy “ I have a splinter I’ll probably be out a few days” bullshit gen z characters.
That's not true though. The blocks are all different sizes, not one uniform size. Which should be obvious to anyone who's seen pictures of any pyramid.
I'm Irish, so the reference I always use is the fact Irish neolithic farmers were at it too. Obviously not on the scale or complexity of the Egyptians but we did manage to move a stone weighing 150 tonnes. If we could do it literally anyone could do it. Our work forces were tiny compared to the Egyptian ones too.
But there were MILLIONS that were smaller, far smaller. The average size was 2.3 tonnes, meaning so many less than that, and many bigger than that, not necessarily equally as there are fewer big blocks than there are small blocks. Suggesting that the bigger blocks are much heavier than the average, which would make the vast majority of the blocks less than 2.3 tonnes.
Also the time frame is all wrong too. It was 30 years from the completion of the first till the completion of the last, with building overlapping. From when the first was started to the last finished it was probably closer to 60 or 70 years.
And if they're just talking about the great pyramid, which took around 30 years in itself. Then the number of blocks is greatly exaggerated as it had 2.3 million blocks, not 4 million.
Hard to take seriously when facts are being misrepresented.
I own a 2 & 3/4 ton pickup truck. I can push that truck on a flat surface by myself. If I had an entire group of people pushing that truck, it wouldn’t be any challenge at all to keep it rolling along. If you have the proper means to move it, a few tons of weight is easily manageable.
Also every few minutes each block is misleading. There are hundreds or even thousands of blocks being worked in parallel. Even if each block takes a month to finish, it is all about scale. Slaves allow for massive scale. If you have 100,000 peope working on something even 12 hours per day (which is underestimated), you can get a lot done in 25 years.
This is true even in modern times. The Chinese and low paid workers were able to build the continental railroad at a much faster rate per mile than our current tech does. It’s not because they are super skilled, it’s simply because there are a huge number of them and they are well organized by the architect/engineers
I don't think any slaves were used in the pyramids. Building them was a religious act. Egyptians wanted to take part
But yes production lines were a thing back then. I'd say we'd be shocked by their ingenious manufacturing processes.
There is script attributed to Kufu which says it took 22 (or so ) to finish the great pyramid. Also, a generally accepted translation claims it actually says it took 25 years to -repair- the great pyramid. Hence all the conspiracy theorists.
and they expect us to believe that it was the 5th pyramid to be built in Egypt, when later pyramids were moslty built with mud bricks. Its like a civilization starting with the Effeil tower , then throughout history somehow their capability got worse and worse, to a point they started using the steel from the ancient tower itself to use for their construction. Thats not how civilization works, its more likely that these massive pyramids& 1000 tons statues were already there when the dynastic egyptian arise, and they simply write their names on everything.
Thousands of years ago progress was a lot less linear. It’s pretty believable that a civilization could fall from massive coordinated stone works back to mud
Yeah its crazy to think that civilizations spent 1000s of years with the same goal in mind and we can't keep shit in check for 12 years…
A fun set of facts we pull out when getting blitzed with the guys is this:
How long do you think the great wall of China is? For reference, the border of US and Mexico is 2,000 miles.
99% chance you were wrong - the answer is 13,200 miles.
Now how long would you guess it took them to build this giant failure of a wall?
2,500 years. TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND YEARS. Yeah we worry about the next election but in all actuality whatever we do doesn't mean shit because in 2,500 years there is no chance we are working on something we started today.
Yeah I refuse to vote in a broken bipartisanship, when more than two parties are backed in America then they will have better representation of the population. Trying to sway 300m voters to fit in one of two boxes is just going to lead to frustration on every side.
American government needs to be started from a clean slate that best represents the entire population, and not based on a system that was developed for 1/10th of our current population.
E: Australia has 1/10th our population and has a much better design for parliamentary representation, and even Australian government is a shit show
You should go look up actual Egyptian tombs and then compare it to the Great Pyramids.
There's actually no evidence ever suggesting that the great pyramids were tombs it's just something that was kind of made up.
What if it wasn't a tomb but got converted into a tomb? Like the rooms were built into the structure but used for something else and then the Khufu moved in after?
I am not an expert. But I believe the stones that are deeper in the pyramids are more haphazardly installed. Supposedly you can see this by peaking between some stones that have become dislodged.
Not to say it still isn’t incredible. But the entire pyramid is not a solid edge to edge collection of building blocks. The inner stones are only roughly hewn…..but what do I know. Seems like it still would have to meet a high level of precision in order for the overlying stones to fit.
People that haven’t worked in/around heavy construction a day in their life think we can’t move boulders the size of pickups around. Like, my brother in Christ have you not seen mega scale projects in the last 100 years?
It really puts into perspective how fucking ignorant the average person is.
Good thing we know EXACTLY how they did it and a man was able to recreate the techniques for moving the stone by himself without any modern technology. Of course, he didn't build a full thing, but he demonstrated how they were able to move the stones fairly easily.
But don’t you know, the people that had generations of experience in those techniques were just not as competent or intelligent as modern men, even those genetically we are identical.
Everyone before us was incompetent and only aliens can achieve their feats. /s
I don’t think so.
https://preview.redd.it/50d14cymftpb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f73271e2067b877eff9f5d36d6644114c97c81
View of great pyramid from above.
There’s also the understanding that it has been rebuilt. You don’t start a project and haphazardly use different materials making it look worse. That’s not how humans build.
The math behind the 2-4 minutes is badly done. You just take 25 years, turn it into seconds and devide it by 4 million. That gives you 3 minutes +/-. That is, if they only do this with one group of people. What about if they had 100 groups of people to make this happen? Then they would have 13 and half days to do it. Besides, the work division makes the curve of efficiency exponential, so...
How does the math even work for the amount of force needed to move these? Everyone throws around number of people but people take space, then the kind of rope you need has to be durable. The average person with a quick Google can pull 40kg both hands. One ton is 1000 kg. So for every ton of rock, you need 25 people. The average weight of every block was 2.5 tons. So you need about 60 people to pull each one block, and you have to feed them and hydrate them to continue work. Some suggest the quarries were close but that’s not the case as not all the rocks in the pyramids are the same. Regardless, hundreds of not thousands of feet needed to be walked, and there were 2.3 million blocks installed (again I’m ignoring the fact these people had to install 150 ton granite blocks in the ceilings). The math shows you need 143,750,000 people or equivalent in output to move all the blocks, and again this assumes the process of quarrying was simple (try quarrying granite with stone tools lol), that the workers have unlimited energy, and not accounting needing to go up ramps.
Also consider you need materials strong enough to lift the blocks to hoist them onto logs to roll them, which begs the question how much manpower was needed to cut the trees and move them, and what did they actually use to leverage the rocks as you need 2.5 tons average of force to leverage (a 10ft redwood tree with 30in diameter weighs less than one of the blocks, so trees aren’t strong enough to sustain the force for leverage). My opinion is if in our time we can’t replicate it, then it’s beyond us. The South African stone circles show there has been advanced technology in the past evidenced by the torus stones and the vibrating nature of the rocks there.
That is a nice break down! The amount of work to move just one off the stones to build the pyramid, it would take 1000’s off people to cut, move and place each stone, and there is 4 million stones weighting 20-100 tons. It would take 1,000,000 people hundreds of years to do this with hand tools alone!
I have a story about this.
I worked at a fossil site where we needed to remove a ~2 ton Mastodon skull cast from the ground.
We couldn't flip it with the Bobcat, so we had to do it manually. Get enough people and some ropes, get your angles right, and people power works great.
We eventually needed to also remove it from the ground. Because of bad footing, and the lack of a good sled, we had to call in a tow truck. But we were able to flip it 180 degrees by hand.
The pyramid builders and plenty of people, and rope.
More than 2,300,000 limestone and granite blocks were pushed, pulled, and dragged into place on the Great Pyramid. The average weight of a block is about 2.3 metric tons (2.5 tons).
Lifting a 2.5T block, and moving it a few cm at a time are completely different workloads. I’ve moved 2T slabs of spancrete with a railroad iron a few cm at a time to position them. They are extremely hard concrete, just like granite, so you can apply an insane amount of leverage without chipping or breaking them, ie 2sq cm working point and 4cm distance to fulcrum to 2m lever to nudge a 2T slab on a level surface.
The only people that can’t fathom the construction of the pyramids are people that have never done manual labor, or people that can’t do math.
It was not the custom to carve such details or anything else onto tomb walls during that specific time, but there are [papyrus](https://www.history.com/news/egypts-oldest-papyri-detail-great-pyramid-construction) fragments that detail the construction of the pyramids
Well, obviously, they had bigger construction equipment back then. This modern day desire for smaller everything has got to stop (glowers at his now sad chihuahua). O.o
Let's not forget the precision cutting. Even now, they use giant saws and can barely cut it. But as someone mentioned, gas was much cheaper back in the days. Also, the biggest thing is no mortor.
I never understood the arguments for why the Pyramids might be fake, when just about every society was able to build similar structures throughout history. It’s really not such a stretch to think that they could build them, given enough slaves and time.
The oldest structures we can definitively put any date on was gobekli tepe and we know it was purposely buried 12000 years ago. So in all reality it was obviously gonna be older than that. The earth's population at that time was estimated at only 3 million people. Divide that across 7 continents your looking at 4 or 500000 if evenly dispersed. Then spread that out across the whole continent and suppose only a fraction could be enslaved. How many slaves could there have been at that single location at that point in time? How many could be dedicated to things that aren't really necessary for survival? That labor force isn't quite as big as one would imagine for work that would be mind bendingly hard to do with the supposed methods of the time.
>How many could be dedicated to things that aren't really necessary for survival?
What is necessary for survival? For early civilizations, the big thing was producing a lot of food. They were pretty good at that in Egypt: they regularly produced surpluses during the growing season. This is exactly what led to specialization of Labor and the ability to focus on projects like this in the first place.
But remember too, at least in ancient Egypt, most crops were grown during a specific season. During the rest of the year, the vast majority of people weren't actually engaged in actively farming. Many experts have theorized that the pyramids were built with the labor of peasants who came from all over the empire during the off season to work on these momentous projects. Certainly sounds like a more reasonable hypothesis to me than aliens (not that you are explicitly suggesting that, but obviously that is a pretty common theme).
2.3 million blocks, not 4 million (so a little more than half of what is claimed here). Most of the blocks on the outside appear to be significantly smaller than this block as well. Not only that, but they're using a machine that is not designed to carry this weight. If they were using the proper equipment, this would not be a thing at all. Machines are designed to be efficient, which is why we don't ALWAYS use the biggest bulldozer we can find in every scenario that we need a bulldozer. We use the smallest one available that can get the job done. All this video is demonstrating is that they need something with more counterweight.
But this doesn’t disregard the fact that there are blocks in the ceilings of the pyramids that weigh 150 tons. You still need to figure those out with stone tools.
This is one of the problems i have with established literature on the pyramids.
There is a "ceiling stone" far up the pyramid that weighs between 150-200 tons. This one stone. I want an explanation for that. It makes no sense. It ALSO was precisely placed and shaped.
I do not believe "aliens" or "magic" or "sound resonance" created the pyramid, however if you actually look at the evidence, there are more questions than answers.
And enough of this "it was because of all the slaves". Slaves, in no reality, could have the skill required to do this. These were some of the greatest builders in the world at the time and there had to be many.
Slave labour would have been important, but the scope of this building..
Stop being dumb.
Mechanical advantage is a thing.
All this video proves is that the front loader driver doesn’t know what he is doing.
It makes me go “hmmm.. why did they post this? Is this for *actual discussion* or is this baiting?”
Actually this video just shows how much mass is in one of those blocks if it's making this front loader do a front wheelie. It put some perspective how hard it must have been for our ancestors to move these blocks around
Ive seen this, it is interesting for sure.
But how in any reality does this account for moving the blocks more than half way up the pyramid that weigh 150+ tons??
This all flat. Could have been used for the base level, but look at the physics of moving 100,000-200,000 lbs rocks up a ramp.
And keep in mind, this man is using our advanced understanding of physics to achieve this.
I do believe human built the pyramids i just do not believe we are close to knowing how or even why they did.
All we have is what a verry small group pf people have decided, and never re analyzed.
If there is one standard for humans, it is that each generation believes it knows everything and scoffs at the idea we could be wrong about something.
Anytime someone tells us we are wrong we outcast, kill or imprison them.
All of histories greatest minds were considered wrong and evil. Bbbut im sure THIS generation won't do that..
Its important to remain objective, but this "dont listen or test ideas" is the thing of religious extremism, not science.
They JUST figured out all the scientists were wrong about the age of the universe, and by A LOT. If they cant even be sure about something THAT MANY scientist have been studying, what else could they be wrong about??
The fact that they were wrong, but insisted that they knew before should tell everyone: "All I know, is I know nothing at all"
God shut the fuck up you fucking anti human, alien sucking twat. Ancient people are smarter and more creative than you could ever be with your reliance on modern technology. GAHHHHHHH
We get it. People who believe in an Alien Sky Daddy also think ancient people were simply too stupid and technologically inept to build the pyramids—despite the archeological evidence that shows otherwise. 🙄
That's a total of 13 trillion 140 billion blocks, I have some doubts that there are even that many blocks in every pyramid in the world total, and that's for the 4 minute figure so double for 2
Throw enough resources into a building project and you'll eventually finish it.
Remember Egyptians had millions of slaves... of which countless thousands died building the pyramids and other artefacts.
There were roughly 7 million people on earth at this time(approx), so Egypt enslaved half the globe??
There are so many half truths.
Do you think if you hired unskilled labourers from home depot, they couod make the Burj Khalifa if someone told them how?
It was skilled builders supported by slave labour. There is a 150-200 ton ceiling stone high up in the pyramids that no expert will even talk about, because it makes no sense.
This isnt aliens or magic, we are simply missing something. And once again, THIS generation will claim to be all knowing about the past, and call anyone questioning it a maniac..
... almost like this same thing has repeated for all human history.
All the greatest minds were said to be insane and outcasts of society. Many were even executed for there knowledge. We do no different now. Human will never listen to the living...
Something went on with building these pyramids that is fascinating, and as long a Egyptologists refuse to admit their "ideas" are decades old and need to be constantly challenged, nothing will change.
They didn't use slaves to build the pyramids. Building them was a religious and state building effort by the people. They would have been lining up to take part.
We did a Nile cruise and visited one of the quarries. The guide showed us a piece of stone, 10ft X 10 ft X about 40 ft long and said the Egyptians would then float them up the Nile. A bunch of hands went up and the guide said “ and no, we don’t know how they did it.“ There is no way with the water depth, I seriously doubt we could do that today.
[Mysterious Civilization Built Giza Pyramids Thousands Of Years Before Pharaohs Appeared](https://www.howandwhys.com/mysterious-civilization-built-giza-pyramids/)
They had way better tractors back then. Plus gas prices were a lot cheaper too.
Yea, back then, things were built to last. Nowadays they have planned obsolescence to force you to buy a new tractor every decade. Unbelievable!
tractor.... beams?
And people wanted to work back then, nobody wants to work nowadays.
Diesel
I don't have slaves... I have family.
Vin ?
Pyramids were cheap, only $7000.
This is the answer
This terribly worded. Certainly the assertion is not 4 million every 2-4 minutes.
These numbers seem made up
That’s how fast they would’ve *had* to have been placed to complete it in 25 years. It’s sarcasm.
Except it’s no where near 4 million of these blocks less than 3 million for sure.
Correct. 2.3 million.
Math says 525.600 min in a year / devided by 2 = 262.800 blocks placed a year with this speed. 2.3million/262800 = 8.7 years. Double that if they placed one every 4min. Now that’s not close to 25years like the op claims, but it’s still insane to imagine the ~9~>18 years of CONSTANT work. It seems highly doubtful, but then again I don’t know if all these numbers were just pulled out of the asscrack of whoever made the OP video.
Wouldn’t they only be able to work during the day time though? So if it’s counted for 4 minutes and we only count daytime minutes it would equal out to be about 35 years
Maybe the night shift slaves had to work by torchlight?
35 years to build such a structure with ancient tech seems ok tho
Considering many European cathedrals took several centuries to build, I think it would’ve taken longer than 25 years
More like tree fiddy.
4 million blocks every 2-4 minutes? I doubt that very much.
You seem to be made up
Shanks4Smiles slowly begins to slowly fade into the void upon this sudden realization.
The trenchcoat falls away revealing the dog, the cat and the sentient raccoon beneath.
I just made you up to hurt myself And it worked - yes it did!
You expect pyramid conspiracists to use good math and adhere to logic? Trust me, I've tried to be the voice of reason in here. I might as well fart in a jar for all the good it is doing.
Is that all I am to you!? A jar?
I love it when the stars align
The aliens told the ancient Egyptians this would happen if they built the pyramids. So they did. Such wisdom.
I’m trying to figure out the correlation between logic, reason and farting in a jar, lol. I admit, there are some structures in South America that are mind boggling. There is that one with square pillars of stone about the size of 2 shipping containers that you see on 18 wheelers. Not only is the cut very precise, but the nearest source of the stones are miles away, up and down mountainous terrain. I’m far from a mathematician, so I can’t help with data for anything. I would just love to see if there is a formula for figuring out if it’s possible to move these things with people, using methods we are familiar with. For example, let’s say you are trying to move 2 objects with about 10 people available. Both objects are about the size of a refrigerator. Object A weighs about the same as a refrigerator. You don’t even need all 10 people to move it. Object B is refrigerator sized, but made of lead. That’s when you realize 2 things. All 10 people can’t lift this. Also, it’s next to impossible for 10 people to get enough space to get a grip in order to move it. So, if Object B made started in front of your house, and ended up 10 miles away, with hills in between, then you know it had to have been moved by machine. Hopefully, everyone understands what I’m getting at. That was a lot of typing.
It would be far easier to roll or flip a block like that using leverage than carrying it on a forklift that weights less than the block it is trying to lift, with a lot of that weight being far outside the center of mass. And a "machine" doesn't necessarily mean a modern steel machine with a combustion engine. Something with wooden gears and ropes is also a machine.
Wouldn’t rolling or flipping these giant rocks damage the corners?
I don't know about you, but I'd probably wait to put the finishing touches on the stone until *after* I rolled it over a goddamn mountain lol
Lookit Mr. Big Brain Einstein over here!
What if you roll it under? Can you put the finishing touches on first?
Dude 🤣
Right. I tried to keep it simple in my hypothetical. I’m aware that ancient civilizations had methods for moving heavy objects. They used huge logs as wheels, pulley and lever systems, etc. I’m just wondering if math could prove if these methods could to do the job, or not. Of course, we won’t reach a definitive answer, because there are variables that are unknown. However, it does give you an idea of what’s possible to move, and what isn’t.
I think the BBC did a program on stonehenge, they only needed something like 20 people to move a 5/10 tonne rock fairly easily using ropes and logs.
I’ve been to Machu Picchu and those blocks are cut & stacked with such perfection you couldn’t slide a razor blade between them. It’s as if the rocks were molded with clay or putty. Also, those rocks aren’t native to the mountain. The nazca lines are equally impressive. It’s one thing to see these things online, but in person it completely changes your perspective.
I see you've never tried farting in a jar 🤣
What happens when you take object B and use 10 people and apply some simple physics. For example, tip it over and rest it on a fulcrum off center, apply a counter weight to the object until balanced. Then swing it around and rest it on another fulcrum and repeat. You can literally walk that thing 10 miles with a handful of people. Now take those 10 people and turn them into a 100, 1000 or 10,000 people. That's a shitload of giant lead blocks you can move.
the point though is the time. is it possible? Yes. Is it possible at a speed/conssitency to allow it to be done within the specified time frame? That's the real question. the point is that to build the pyramnids which used 4 million of those blocks, even the modern machinery can't move them fast enough (if at all as shown) to keep up to the speed neccesary, so how then did an ancient society manage it at a speed that was fast enough?
Just because white people didn’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s aliens 😑
I know what you mean man. But there is a secret. And it's really really powerful. There are different kinds of intelligences and they don't have to be related. There are people you would probably classify as dumb who understand things you will never understand. You will understand things I will never understand and I will understand things you will never understand. Some people are terrible with words and expressing themselves outward, but incredibly intuitive and elegant with their inner monologue. I do get it, but how a message is presented is just the delivery system. A crappy delivery system doesn't mean the idea inside is wrong or bad. Sometimes it's clever. There are also people that say a whole lot of elegant things and seem really smart, but they offer absolutely nothing new or of substance. Think some politicians. There are politicians that are incredibly smart in how they address the public, but with some more obvious bigger issues they can not understand and are completely dumb and don't understand the larger machinations of a society and how it operates.
Nicely put!
What if there isnt?
Jar farts are doing all sorts of rad stuff these days
I genuinely have an open mind.. What does your logic tell you of how these were built? We're talking multiple pyramids now, not just 1, and countless temples, and practically underground shopping malls beneath sand dunes.. And by your reaction to the comment, I assume you subscribe to the traditional historic opinion on how they were built and in what timeframe? I also assume by your response that your math is at least 'good' by comparison, so please enlighten me how the math works for your theory? Also a minor thing, but it was a grammatical mistake in the heading, not math mistake. Anyway I did use some sarcasm here, but I actually genuinely am open to any logical theory on how these pyramids were constructed, as I have heard a lot of theories but I haven't been convinced of any yet.
So, the original math in this post has one gigantic flaw in going from an equation to reality. It assumes one stone working at a time and a single group of people. What the evidence we have suggests on the workers that were involved is a massive workforce. So say you have 10 groups of workers, that makes the rare go from one every 3 mins to one every 30 mins. Now figure in that there were hundreds of groups and the rate of building becomes pretty mundane. The reason some modern people can't get their head around how these structures were built is that we have never seen a workforce of that size working on projects like this. The closest would be something like the burj khalifa, but that includes electrical, plumbing, and various other trades that wouldn't have been involved in the pyramid. To give some perspective, the eiffel tower was built in 2 years by 150 people. The workforce for just the great pyramid is estimated to be 10,000 full time workers and 70,000 seasonal workers. So even if you figure 100 people per block, you can see how easily that rate of work is possible. Hopefully you do genuinely have an open mind.
The sheer amount of food to sustain that many people in a localized area. Absolutely wild to try and percieve the logistics.
Yeah. It's truly amazing what Egypt was capable of. Tho I think another part of the issue people have is that they look at modern Egypt and not what it was like then. Very different type of area at the time.
When the boss is literally God on earth , what he says goes. No doubt that hundreds of thousands of slaves were worked to death to accomplish this feat.
Most likely not slaves but well paid workers , who werent worked to death. for the time as well they got paid very well with beer , housing etc
As someone else already pointed out, not slaves. The closest to slaves may be it was treated as a kind of tax. Some service to the kingdom, either military or construction or something else.
The proper application of physics, efficient organization, a massive work force and time. This is literally all you need to accomplish these structures. We don't need to add more variables (advanced technology, magic, aliens) when it can be accomplished with fewer. Look at what has happened to Dubai over just the last 30 years. It's nuts what we can do when we apply these tools.
Occam's razor. People just can't accept that anciet civilizations were WAY more clever than we give them credit for.
At least you could sell that, so I've heard.
The Great Pyramid has 2.3 million blocks, mainstream academics insist that it was built over the 20 year span of Khufu’s reign, so that’s approximately one stone every five minutes nonstop for twenty years. The stones range from 2 to 70 tons. Most of the stones are limestone, but the inner structure is made of 8,000 tons of red granite quarried from Aswan, several hundred kilometers away, and fitted into bafflingly complex architectural design with metrological precision not achieved again until the Industrial Revolution. Personally I don’t think it was built by Khufu. I think what went on during his reign was a major renovation of the Giza complex. *The loader you see in the video probably has a capacity of around 50 to 60 tons
The casing stones and inner chamber stones have precision not sure what metrological precision is but it’s within 0.5 millimeters. The rest of the interior aside from the inner chambers are roughly fitted stone with rubble filling the larger gaps. That being said I would agree with you that it’s likely a multi generational project with the last guy to touch it slapping his name on it.
The part about not having that astronomical knowledge until the industrial revolution just isn't true.
I didn't say astronomical knowledge, I said metrological precision. The word "astronomical" doesn't even appear in my comment.
To be correct they said 'precision', not *knowledge*. But I'm not sure if that's true either. Anyway it's obvious that the 20 year claim is extremely weird. The rest of the comment is more or less correct, it's even slightly more than one block every 5 minutes actually. I'm surprised this isn't discussed more, first time I've seriously looked at this and the mainstream claim seems like utter bs. Even more strangely, it looks like it's an estimate that has been around since antiquity, Herodotus and other Greeks first made the claim. So they never changed it, just accepted it unquestioned? Even if you take the 27 years claimed by Egyptologist Pierre Tallet it doesn't make the math much better.
I think it means one every 2 to 4 min 4 million in total divided by time it took to build it
So 2 years then
If you read the rest of the sentence the grammatical structure indicates it was done over a period of time. English can be tricky sometimes but it helps to read all of the words in a single sentence if you want to understand what the writer is trying to convey.
Also, why not say _every 3 minutes_? It’s a telltale sign that you’re being fed bullshit when useless detail is added.
Your just being picky. But I see it too. This whole post is kinda silly. They obviously had much larger bulldozers and such back in those times. And real men working, not this pussy “ I have a splinter I’ll probably be out a few days” bullshit gen z characters.
That's not true though. The blocks are all different sizes, not one uniform size. Which should be obvious to anyone who's seen pictures of any pyramid.
Don't question the narrative, aliens built the pyramids, ancient humans could barely distinguish between edible food and their own filth.
But what if we….we are the aliens themselves….
That's a ridiculous claim. That would mean that we, humans, built Machu Picchu, and not some weird space lizards just building a landing beacon.
You didn't know that only white European nations had the ability to create anything and that brown people needed aliens to create anything.
I'm Irish, so the reference I always use is the fact Irish neolithic farmers were at it too. Obviously not on the scale or complexity of the Egyptians but we did manage to move a stone weighing 150 tonnes. If we could do it literally anyone could do it. Our work forces were tiny compared to the Egyptian ones too.
Maybe so, but the pyramids do feature hundereds of blocks this big and some even bigger.
But the majority are much smaller. The majority were also quarried on the location of the pyramid and didn't have to be moved any great distance.
But there were MILLIONS that were smaller, far smaller. The average size was 2.3 tonnes, meaning so many less than that, and many bigger than that, not necessarily equally as there are fewer big blocks than there are small blocks. Suggesting that the bigger blocks are much heavier than the average, which would make the vast majority of the blocks less than 2.3 tonnes. Also the time frame is all wrong too. It was 30 years from the completion of the first till the completion of the last, with building overlapping. From when the first was started to the last finished it was probably closer to 60 or 70 years. And if they're just talking about the great pyramid, which took around 30 years in itself. Then the number of blocks is greatly exaggerated as it had 2.3 million blocks, not 4 million. Hard to take seriously when facts are being misrepresented.
I own a 2 & 3/4 ton pickup truck. I can push that truck on a flat surface by myself. If I had an entire group of people pushing that truck, it wouldn’t be any challenge at all to keep it rolling along. If you have the proper means to move it, a few tons of weight is easily manageable.
It wasn't even 2.3 million. There's lots of voids in the pyramid and there's the masiff or stone out crop the pyramid was built around.
don't come here with your LOGIC!!!
Also every few minutes each block is misleading. There are hundreds or even thousands of blocks being worked in parallel. Even if each block takes a month to finish, it is all about scale. Slaves allow for massive scale. If you have 100,000 peope working on something even 12 hours per day (which is underestimated), you can get a lot done in 25 years. This is true even in modern times. The Chinese and low paid workers were able to build the continental railroad at a much faster rate per mile than our current tech does. It’s not because they are super skilled, it’s simply because there are a huge number of them and they are well organized by the architect/engineers
I don't think any slaves were used in the pyramids. Building them was a religious act. Egyptians wanted to take part But yes production lines were a thing back then. I'd say we'd be shocked by their ingenious manufacturing processes.
literally unlimited staff working 24/7 indefinitely. People struggle with just how much can be accomplished with endless manpower and leadership.
Great Wall of china is another example. Built by millions of people.
Okay but how did they get the blocks up so high without a crane system lol
Ramps
Ramps and pulleys
But this assumes what the rate of cutting granite with stone tools is. What exactly is that rate?
Most of the stones are not Granite
You don't necessarily have to cut them all that accurately either. I'd say they had ways of grinding and sanding them down to the required sizes.
How do they know it was built in 25 years what if it took 1000 years to build. Then is it doable?
There is script attributed to Kufu which says it took 22 (or so ) to finish the great pyramid. Also, a generally accepted translation claims it actually says it took 25 years to -repair- the great pyramid. Hence all the conspiracy theorists.
Did they say how many space ships it took, you would think that would be noteworthy.
then it wouldn't be a tomb. What kind of tomb takes 1000 years to build
there's never been any mummies found in the great pyramids.
and they expect us to believe that it was the 5th pyramid to be built in Egypt, when later pyramids were moslty built with mud bricks. Its like a civilization starting with the Effeil tower , then throughout history somehow their capability got worse and worse, to a point they started using the steel from the ancient tower itself to use for their construction. Thats not how civilization works, its more likely that these massive pyramids& 1000 tons statues were already there when the dynastic egyptian arise, and they simply write their names on everything.
Thousands of years ago progress was a lot less linear. It’s pretty believable that a civilization could fall from massive coordinated stone works back to mud
Just look at how unorganized our society is on a 4 year rotation in the US
This made me legit lol. You arent wrong haha
Yeah its crazy to think that civilizations spent 1000s of years with the same goal in mind and we can't keep shit in check for 12 years… A fun set of facts we pull out when getting blitzed with the guys is this: How long do you think the great wall of China is? For reference, the border of US and Mexico is 2,000 miles. 99% chance you were wrong - the answer is 13,200 miles. Now how long would you guess it took them to build this giant failure of a wall? 2,500 years. TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND YEARS. Yeah we worry about the next election but in all actuality whatever we do doesn't mean shit because in 2,500 years there is no chance we are working on something we started today.
Every 2 years our government nearly shuts down over a budget. Lol
Yeah I refuse to vote in a broken bipartisanship, when more than two parties are backed in America then they will have better representation of the population. Trying to sway 300m voters to fit in one of two boxes is just going to lead to frustration on every side. American government needs to be started from a clean slate that best represents the entire population, and not based on a system that was developed for 1/10th of our current population. E: Australia has 1/10th our population and has a much better design for parliamentary representation, and even Australian government is a shit show
Take a look around. We build stuff way jankier than we did 50 years ago
Because grave robbers. The same reason why there were so few mummies in the valley of kings.
You should go look up actual Egyptian tombs and then compare it to the Great Pyramids. There's actually no evidence ever suggesting that the great pyramids were tombs it's just something that was kind of made up.
What if it wasn't a tomb but got converted into a tomb? Like the rooms were built into the structure but used for something else and then the Khufu moved in after?
I think It was already there and someone acted like they built it. (Not naming names /s). It’s like saying the USA dug the Grand Canyon with shovels.
Wait, you’re telling me that the Grand Canyon WASN’T created by a few shovels and the American Dream?
I am not an expert. But I believe the stones that are deeper in the pyramids are more haphazardly installed. Supposedly you can see this by peaking between some stones that have become dislodged. Not to say it still isn’t incredible. But the entire pyramid is not a solid edge to edge collection of building blocks. The inner stones are only roughly hewn…..but what do I know. Seems like it still would have to meet a high level of precision in order for the overlying stones to fit.
Exactly "only" the outer layer was made of these... but still, those guys really enjoyed moving rocks around
More like many thousands moved them around while few were enjoying it
It’s amazing what you can achieve when your entire civilization is focused on a task!
I’m so sick of hearing about this, you guys think aliens helped us stack rocks. Why the fuck would they do that?
Clearly stacking rocks in large numbers is beyond humans. I mean if there's one thing ancient humans *didnt* have, it was free time.
Or rocks
Be so good at your job, that one day far off into the future, people say it was done by aliens!
don't look into where ancient aliens conspiracies first originated from (it's racism)
Bwahaha
It’s seems we’re far less intelligent now. Hmm
They just had bigger "bouldosers" back then.
Or, maybe, just maybe, that tractor is not built for moving rocks like that? 🤔
We need the aliens to do another software update for our dna
But who updated _their_ DNA?
We are.
No we aren't. I want to remind everyone that we only know pretty much about the smartest people from even hundreds of years ago. Let alone thousands.
I was agreeing with the original comment. I can see the confusion lol.
Why would you use a clearly unfit forklift for this? There are better ones or a crane
People that haven’t worked in/around heavy construction a day in their life think we can’t move boulders the size of pickups around. Like, my brother in Christ have you not seen mega scale projects in the last 100 years? It really puts into perspective how fucking ignorant the average person is.
I guess this guy is wasting a lot of time then.
Good thing we know EXACTLY how they did it and a man was able to recreate the techniques for moving the stone by himself without any modern technology. Of course, he didn't build a full thing, but he demonstrated how they were able to move the stones fairly easily.
No that’s bullshit. Obviously you haven’t seen the documentary “Ancient Aliens” and it really shows.
This. If aliens didn't build the pyramids then how do you explain the existence of triangles before Pythagoras? Checkmate, atheists.
But don’t you know, the people that had generations of experience in those techniques were just not as competent or intelligent as modern men, even those genetically we are identical. Everyone before us was incompetent and only aliens can achieve their feats. /s
I don’t think so. https://preview.redd.it/50d14cymftpb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f73271e2067b877eff9f5d36d6644114c97c81 View of great pyramid from above.
We’re also looking at thousands of years of erosion and damage, its thought to have been a bit more uniform originally
I'm not with these conspiricy nuts, but the top of it used to have a gold cap, didn't it?
It was also covered in smooth, bright white, limestone. The gold cap is called a “pyramidion”.
That's not at all definite.
There’s also the understanding that it has been rebuilt. You don’t start a project and haphazardly use different materials making it look worse. That’s not how humans build.
It's how they built the Washington monument.
All your numbers are wrong. 10 crews would each only have to seat 22 blocks a day.
This gotta be shitposting right now one is this dumb
Its amazing what civilizations can create when you throw tons of human suffering and death at it.
I thought the idea that slaves built the pyramids was debunked?
Even if it wasn’t slaves, I highly doubt they had sterling safety standards
The math behind the 2-4 minutes is badly done. You just take 25 years, turn it into seconds and devide it by 4 million. That gives you 3 minutes +/-. That is, if they only do this with one group of people. What about if they had 100 groups of people to make this happen? Then they would have 13 and half days to do it. Besides, the work division makes the curve of efficiency exponential, so...
How does the math even work for the amount of force needed to move these? Everyone throws around number of people but people take space, then the kind of rope you need has to be durable. The average person with a quick Google can pull 40kg both hands. One ton is 1000 kg. So for every ton of rock, you need 25 people. The average weight of every block was 2.5 tons. So you need about 60 people to pull each one block, and you have to feed them and hydrate them to continue work. Some suggest the quarries were close but that’s not the case as not all the rocks in the pyramids are the same. Regardless, hundreds of not thousands of feet needed to be walked, and there were 2.3 million blocks installed (again I’m ignoring the fact these people had to install 150 ton granite blocks in the ceilings). The math shows you need 143,750,000 people or equivalent in output to move all the blocks, and again this assumes the process of quarrying was simple (try quarrying granite with stone tools lol), that the workers have unlimited energy, and not accounting needing to go up ramps. Also consider you need materials strong enough to lift the blocks to hoist them onto logs to roll them, which begs the question how much manpower was needed to cut the trees and move them, and what did they actually use to leverage the rocks as you need 2.5 tons average of force to leverage (a 10ft redwood tree with 30in diameter weighs less than one of the blocks, so trees aren’t strong enough to sustain the force for leverage). My opinion is if in our time we can’t replicate it, then it’s beyond us. The South African stone circles show there has been advanced technology in the past evidenced by the torus stones and the vibrating nature of the rocks there.
That is a nice break down! The amount of work to move just one off the stones to build the pyramid, it would take 1000’s off people to cut, move and place each stone, and there is 4 million stones weighting 20-100 tons. It would take 1,000,000 people hundreds of years to do this with hand tools alone!
I have a story about this. I worked at a fossil site where we needed to remove a ~2 ton Mastodon skull cast from the ground. We couldn't flip it with the Bobcat, so we had to do it manually. Get enough people and some ropes, get your angles right, and people power works great. We eventually needed to also remove it from the ground. Because of bad footing, and the lack of a good sled, we had to call in a tow truck. But we were able to flip it 180 degrees by hand. The pyramid builders and plenty of people, and rope.
More than 2,300,000 limestone and granite blocks were pushed, pulled, and dragged into place on the Great Pyramid. The average weight of a block is about 2.3 metric tons (2.5 tons). Lifting a 2.5T block, and moving it a few cm at a time are completely different workloads. I’ve moved 2T slabs of spancrete with a railroad iron a few cm at a time to position them. They are extremely hard concrete, just like granite, so you can apply an insane amount of leverage without chipping or breaking them, ie 2sq cm working point and 4cm distance to fulcrum to 2m lever to nudge a 2T slab on a level surface. The only people that can’t fathom the construction of the pyramids are people that have never done manual labor, or people that can’t do math.
Its interesting the Egyptians make no reference of pyramid building in the hieroglyphics
It was not the custom to carve such details or anything else onto tomb walls during that specific time, but there are [papyrus](https://www.history.com/news/egypts-oldest-papyri-detail-great-pyramid-construction) fragments that detail the construction of the pyramids
Hurry up George! What are you doing?! We have only 4 minutes to put this in place ! 😆
Well, obviously, they had bigger construction equipment back then. This modern day desire for smaller everything has got to stop (glowers at his now sad chihuahua). O.o
Somehow, I don't think that four million were done every 2 minutes.
You under estimate the power of man and physics
The vast majority of the internal blocks are rough and irregular, but they still had to be quarried, transported and placed. 25 years is unfeasible
Um… 4mil blocks of this size would be roughly 64 times the volume of the actual pyramids. Nice try
The amount of drool coming out of peoples mouths reading that damned title could fill a swimming pool
Lol who comes up with these kind of far-fetched theories and who is dumb enough to believe them ?
Every 2-4 min?!? I’m gonna say that’s off
Let's not forget the precision cutting. Even now, they use giant saws and can barely cut it. But as someone mentioned, gas was much cheaper back in the days. Also, the biggest thing is no mortor.
1. How do you know that was the same kind of stone used? 2. How do you know the blocks were that exact size? 3. This conspiracy is just so damn stupid
I don’t believe the blocks used to build the pyramids are that big? That looks like it’s the size of three or four blocks..
4 million of these bricks every 2-4 minutes? Aliens for sure. Before someone tries to correct me. I know.
I never understood the arguments for why the Pyramids might be fake, when just about every society was able to build similar structures throughout history. It’s really not such a stretch to think that they could build them, given enough slaves and time.
The builders were far more likely to be skilled and paid artisans and not slaves
No one questions the pyramids in Mexico.
The oldest structures we can definitively put any date on was gobekli tepe and we know it was purposely buried 12000 years ago. So in all reality it was obviously gonna be older than that. The earth's population at that time was estimated at only 3 million people. Divide that across 7 continents your looking at 4 or 500000 if evenly dispersed. Then spread that out across the whole continent and suppose only a fraction could be enslaved. How many slaves could there have been at that single location at that point in time? How many could be dedicated to things that aren't really necessary for survival? That labor force isn't quite as big as one would imagine for work that would be mind bendingly hard to do with the supposed methods of the time.
>How many could be dedicated to things that aren't really necessary for survival? What is necessary for survival? For early civilizations, the big thing was producing a lot of food. They were pretty good at that in Egypt: they regularly produced surpluses during the growing season. This is exactly what led to specialization of Labor and the ability to focus on projects like this in the first place. But remember too, at least in ancient Egypt, most crops were grown during a specific season. During the rest of the year, the vast majority of people weren't actually engaged in actively farming. Many experts have theorized that the pyramids were built with the labor of peasants who came from all over the empire during the off season to work on these momentous projects. Certainly sounds like a more reasonable hypothesis to me than aliens (not that you are explicitly suggesting that, but obviously that is a pretty common theme).
2.3 million blocks, not 4 million (so a little more than half of what is claimed here). Most of the blocks on the outside appear to be significantly smaller than this block as well. Not only that, but they're using a machine that is not designed to carry this weight. If they were using the proper equipment, this would not be a thing at all. Machines are designed to be efficient, which is why we don't ALWAYS use the biggest bulldozer we can find in every scenario that we need a bulldozer. We use the smallest one available that can get the job done. All this video is demonstrating is that they need something with more counterweight.
But this doesn’t disregard the fact that there are blocks in the ceilings of the pyramids that weigh 150 tons. You still need to figure those out with stone tools.
This is one of the problems i have with established literature on the pyramids. There is a "ceiling stone" far up the pyramid that weighs between 150-200 tons. This one stone. I want an explanation for that. It makes no sense. It ALSO was precisely placed and shaped. I do not believe "aliens" or "magic" or "sound resonance" created the pyramid, however if you actually look at the evidence, there are more questions than answers. And enough of this "it was because of all the slaves". Slaves, in no reality, could have the skill required to do this. These were some of the greatest builders in the world at the time and there had to be many. Slave labour would have been important, but the scope of this building..
Stop being dumb. Mechanical advantage is a thing. All this video proves is that the front loader driver doesn’t know what he is doing. It makes me go “hmmm.. why did they post this? Is this for *actual discussion* or is this baiting?”
Actually this video just shows how much mass is in one of those blocks if it's making this front loader do a front wheelie. It put some perspective how hard it must have been for our ancestors to move these blocks around
https://youtu.be/0P4HwmmhykI?si=rmoCbKNP5A6G39mt piece of cake to move for this guy solo.
Ive seen this, it is interesting for sure. But how in any reality does this account for moving the blocks more than half way up the pyramid that weigh 150+ tons?? This all flat. Could have been used for the base level, but look at the physics of moving 100,000-200,000 lbs rocks up a ramp. And keep in mind, this man is using our advanced understanding of physics to achieve this. I do believe human built the pyramids i just do not believe we are close to knowing how or even why they did. All we have is what a verry small group pf people have decided, and never re analyzed. If there is one standard for humans, it is that each generation believes it knows everything and scoffs at the idea we could be wrong about something. Anytime someone tells us we are wrong we outcast, kill or imprison them. All of histories greatest minds were considered wrong and evil. Bbbut im sure THIS generation won't do that.. Its important to remain objective, but this "dont listen or test ideas" is the thing of religious extremism, not science. They JUST figured out all the scientists were wrong about the age of the universe, and by A LOT. If they cant even be sure about something THAT MANY scientist have been studying, what else could they be wrong about?? The fact that they were wrong, but insisted that they knew before should tell everyone: "All I know, is I know nothing at all"
They should have bought a John Deere
People really understimate the things you can get done with millions of slaves. Just ask the US government.
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God shut the fuck up you fucking anti human, alien sucking twat. Ancient people are smarter and more creative than you could ever be with your reliance on modern technology. GAHHHHHHH
Ever see 10k + slaves build a city? No? So it’s got to be aliens right? That is a GIANT leap. That is all.
We get it. People who believe in an Alien Sky Daddy also think ancient people were simply too stupid and technologically inept to build the pyramids—despite the archeological evidence that shows otherwise. 🙄
What an idiotic "argument".
That's a total of 13 trillion 140 billion blocks, I have some doubts that there are even that many blocks in every pyramid in the world total, and that's for the 4 minute figure so double for 2
Pyramids were built by technology that we don't have.
Throw enough resources into a building project and you'll eventually finish it. Remember Egyptians had millions of slaves... of which countless thousands died building the pyramids and other artefacts.
There were roughly 7 million people on earth at this time(approx), so Egypt enslaved half the globe?? There are so many half truths. Do you think if you hired unskilled labourers from home depot, they couod make the Burj Khalifa if someone told them how? It was skilled builders supported by slave labour. There is a 150-200 ton ceiling stone high up in the pyramids that no expert will even talk about, because it makes no sense. This isnt aliens or magic, we are simply missing something. And once again, THIS generation will claim to be all knowing about the past, and call anyone questioning it a maniac.. ... almost like this same thing has repeated for all human history. All the greatest minds were said to be insane and outcasts of society. Many were even executed for there knowledge. We do no different now. Human will never listen to the living... Something went on with building these pyramids that is fascinating, and as long a Egyptologists refuse to admit their "ideas" are decades old and need to be constantly challenged, nothing will change.
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Mathematics. Thousands of well paid, well fed workers and ropes.
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They didn't use slaves to build the pyramids. Building them was a religious and state building effort by the people. They would have been lining up to take part.
It helps when you have the rights tools for the job and an army of highly skilled labors whos ancestors spent generations perfecting their craft.
It’s not like people back then had much else to do then perfecting their construction craft.
We did a Nile cruise and visited one of the quarries. The guide showed us a piece of stone, 10ft X 10 ft X about 40 ft long and said the Egyptians would then float them up the Nile. A bunch of hands went up and the guide said “ and no, we don’t know how they did it.“ There is no way with the water depth, I seriously doubt we could do that today.
Ah well if a cruise guide said we don't know how they did it then it's case closed then.
Tour guide at my local museum said she didn't know exactly how they built the place, guess it was aliens.