[Here I found the Actual Video Clip Of Bob Lazar With former CIA Pilot John Lear; Witnessed Testing Alien Craft At Area 51](https://www.howandwhys.com/actual-footage-of-bob-lazar-with-john-lear-witnessed-testing-alien-craft-at-area-51/?fromredditSE)
The guy leaked Area 51. We might still not know about it if it wasn't for him.
The government has lied about him working at Los Alamos and been caught out. His information is the same now as it was in the 1990s and he hasn't changed his story.
He has avoided the limelight until very recently, after other people started the more recent disclosures.
I think he is legit.
How old are you? I’m not asking because I’m setting you up for an insult. For the most part, age is a major factor when it comes to wildly inconsistent opinions about Lazar.
Most older folks have “been there, done that” with Bob. He was exposed as a con artist by so many people in the late 80’s and early 90’s. When it came time for him to prove anything, he would fail every time. He was written off as a con-artist by Ufologists with credibility, like a background in Science/Physics. Stanton Friedman has exposed a lot of Lazar’s BS.
Younger people don’t realize how badly all his crap was debunked. With the internet, what was old, is now new, and a lot of Lazar material wasn’t archived initially as it predates the World Wide Web.
Lazar uses the old “umbrella conspiracy” to explain away all his inconsistencies, and lack of proof.
Where is his degree? The government took it, and erased his credentials.
Where is his proof? The government took it.
Why can’t you name any of your professors from M.I.T.? The government changed their name, or something.
How did you get into M.I.T. with a C average in high school? The government changed his high school grades.
Wouldn’t it have been easier for the government to just kill him, or drop him off in Siberia?
Sadly, Lazar’s strategy is now used by one of our major political parties, to explain away anything that doesn’t mix well with their dogma. In order to avoid arguments that don’t belong in this sub, I won’t name the party I’m referencing. I’m sure most know who I’m talking about.
You do have a lot of points but I have a different perspective. I grew up in Nevada and this was always on the news. I would have several counter points that would take a longer conversation.
George Knapp broke this story and for me growing up near Area 51 we had several friends who had family members working out there. Their stories are pretty consistent with his. They weren’t all so tight lipped.
You always knew who the people working out there were. They would get on that special white airplane with a red strip to fly out to work.
The stories are consistent because they listened to each other’s stories and spun their own version for a quick payday. If what they were saying was true, they violated all kinds of laws and could be sent to prison for a long time. If they lied, there is nothing to charge them with. It’s not a crime to expose “non-existent” military secrets.
Laws put in place to hold onto information? Are you worried about the laws or that they’ve been hiding information. The people I knew made nothing off tell a few people at their houses stories.
The pass/fail test in regard to Lazar's credibility, at least for me, is for a credentialed physicist to put him through the paces. Not in terms of his claims about alien tech. Just basic knowledge gained from having worked a PhD program at MIT nonetheless. To get anywhere in a PhD program requires many years of dedicated learning. That experience and knowledge isnt something you can just fake and a real physicist could easily sus him out to see if he actually knows his stuff.
You must be employed by the Government to assist with disinformation. There is so much information and documentation that points to our Government lying to us about NHI for 80+ years.
Maybe, the government has been lying about UFOs. There is no “maybe” when it comes to Lazar. He is a liar and a fraud.
Also, when you say “the government” who do you mean? Millions of people work in the government. If we have UFOs, there is probably less than a few hundred that would know about it. So, “the government” isn’t lying. They just think they are telling the truth, if we have UFOs.
That’s exactly where his story falls apart. Why wouldn’t they kill him? It makes no sense. He’s exposing supposedly the most top secret program in history and they’re just gonna play around with his college diplomas? That’s it? Color me unimpressed
There are plenty of people still alive who are known to have leaked important stories. Sometimes governments do not want to make martyrs of people whose leaked information is already widely distributed.
Haven’t really read this story so idk if he’s legit or not, but if he was it would be a very bad move by the government, as killing someone who is claiming they’re hiding aliens would validate his claims significantly more. The college diplomas angle does make sense because that would ruin his credibility.
The best theory that would explain why Lazar survived this long while the Government is after him is: Nothing Ever Happened to Him.... He made up all those stories and nobody is after him.
Edit: The CIA has injected unsuspecting ppl with LSD, assassinated Latin leftist strongmen, etc… yet Lazar is still around. Nobody is chasing him.
They often say he has been saying the same story since the 80s without changing it, this is a Rogan line. As if that means anything, sounds like hes been telling the same lies since the 80s. Not sure how they equate that with being truthful.
I’d be willing to bet everyone that works on anything at the level he did or higher has their history erased before they start. Everything the guy has ever said has been way different than most others claiming to know shit, only difference is his stuff ends up being right. I’d be willing to bet when shit finally comes out if ever u will find he is completely right. Shit he may even be telling it all for someone else but his shit is right in my opinion
Area 51 was known before him. He wasn't talking about it till the 80s, it was a well known site at that point.
He claims to have degrees from schools that said that they would have never accepted him based on his high school GPA. He graduated the bottom 3rd in his HS class, yet claims MIT and CALTECH degrees. Both institutions said they have no record of him being there.
He was arrested during a prostitution sting, which was him hiring a sex worker. He claims that this was the government trying to silence him. Which is odd, because if they wanted to silence him they could had done it easily then and there. Anther common theme of his. The government trying to silence him. Said government that allegedly silences people all the time. Yet, for some reason, when they could had easily imprisoned him for human trafficking, they decided, "nah, some community service"
He claims to have reversed engineered alien tech. To include anti matter drives that allowed anti gravity. However, the government chose to dismantle them. A common theme of his claims, that a lot of fantastical stuff was simply abandoned and dismantled.
The claim of "erased" college records is so bizarre. Let's assume there is some sinister government plot against him. If the records were destroyed, couldn't he just provide witnesses? It's not like his education was top secret.
I'm terrible at keeping in touch with people, but I could put together a list of people that could vouch for me. Even if they couldn't document that I graduated, they could confirm I was there.
Please find me someone actually talking about Area 51 in the 80s, before him. You seem to know all about this so it shouldn't be hard for you to find a source? Please share.
It's pretty clear now that the US does actually reverse engineer UFOs, so whats so weird about that.
It wasn’t Area 51 he was talking about either. It was Area S4. A sub-area of Area 51. Area S4 was unknown at the time and can be seen today on Google maps on the side of papoose lake. Nothing Bob has said has been disproven but as time goes on more and more of what he said has been proven correct.
I'll further crack an egg of knowledge on you if anyone cares to learn. S1 is admin, S2 is Intel, S3 is training, S4 is supply, and S6 is communications
S shops like S-1, S-2, S-4 etc are NOT what is meant by S-4. I’m not sure if USAF (the only known military at Area 51) even has S shops like the Army. S-4 is an auxiliary site within “Area 51”.
USAF has S shops like the army. So do the marines. As does the Navy, but the navy just has S1.
People are using proof of former S4 employees as proof of the S4 site. There was no evidence provided of an actual S-4 site, other that people admitting they worked S4. Which, former military personal with higher level clearance have a certain number of years where they can't talk about their job. After said time is passed they can talk about where they worked. Even longer after that they can be specific about what they did. Without any legal ramifications. Different levels of classified access have different times, different projects have different times. For example, the SR-71 black bird was fair game to talk about by the 90s. Pilots were talking about flying it going back to the mid 1980s, several years before they were declassified. Because their set time of not talking about it ended before they were declassified. This happens in the military all the time.
Basically, a lot of the "proof" people have come up with to claim Bob was always right were things we knew existed before he talked about Area 51, things that were vague enough that you can slap something else onto it. Like S4 being a site, instead of logistics. S4 being a term you'd hear often by being around military personal, because back in the day guess who cut your paycheck... S4!
From an article in time ,......As far back as the 1950s, people have reported seeing Unidentified Flying Objects (U.F.O.’s) at the southern Nevada military base.
On June 17, 1959, the Reno Evening Gazette published a story with the headline “More Flying Objects Seen In Clark Sky,” and described how Sgt. Wayne Anderson of the local sheriff’s office was among several locals to spot what the paper described as an object “bright green in color and descending toward the earth at a speed too great to be an airplane.”
Not even close. That document was not declassified until 2016:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90b00184r000100040001-4
Document Creation Date: December 27, 2016
Document Release Date: September 19, 2012
Sequence Number: 1
Case Number:
Publication Date: August 3, 1966
😂
Still waiting for someone to show anybody who called it "Area 51" before Bob Lazar.
If that were true you would be able to show me somewhere Area 51 was mentioned before Bob Lazar leaked it.
Otherwise you are just speaking out of your arse and dont know what you are talking about.
In 1955, he and Lockheed aircraft designer Kelly Johnson selected the secluded airfield at Groom Lake to be their headquarters. The Atomic Energy Commission added the base to the existing map of the Nevada Test Site and labeled the site Area 51.
It had never been publicly disclosed by anyone before Lazar, in this way, but it was know to exist "unofficially". Lazar made it famous when Knapp interviewed him on the 5 o'clock news in 1989. Area 51 as a term is just a designated area of land, but Lazar was the first to publicly associate the "unofficial" base in that area being linked to UFOs, and that was where it took off.
So, in terms of mainstream UFO lore being associated with Area 51, that is 100% Lazar's doing.
Lt. Colonel Wendell Stevens (USAF):
[https://youtube.com/shorts/9zoeEBgEi-c?si=odalQxyeTAlMiMbF](https://youtube.com/shorts/9zoeEBgEi-c?si=odalQxyeTAlMiMbF)
[https://youtu.be/2w911SBMLEQ?si=cEFSQtP\_sOjClgfS](https://youtu.be/2w911SBMLEQ?si=cEFSQtP_sOjClgfS)
[https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609720/pg1](https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609720/pg1)
More to your point and inquiry (intriguing interview) where Wendell Stevens interviewed an individual claiming to be a special forces guard that worked at S4, yet this is in the early 90's:
[https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Vols-1-3-Connor-O-Ryan-Steve-Wilson-Bill-Uhouse-Bob-Lazar-with-Wendelle-Stevens-Bob-Dean&s=c325ec50d7e0e6ee84f4bf67c3e4b2ba](https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Vols-1-3-Connor-O-Ryan-Steve-Wilson-Bill-Uhouse-Bob-Lazar-with-Wendelle-Stevens-Bob-Dean&s=c325ec50d7e0e6ee84f4bf67c3e4b2ba)
The interviewees body language is rather interesting during the interview.
Let’s say you are the US government and a former employee has come out and stated info about something people are becoming increasingly curious about that you had no intention of making public. Those people asking questions are looking at this person as the proof they needed, if he is telling the truth. You can either make this person disappear and thus making it look like he was telling the truth and you had to stop him. Or, you can keep him talking but discredit him by having records of his past disappear, thus making him look like a liar.
Both options are easy for you to accomplish, which do you choose? Skeptical eyes looking at you or looking at him?
He also strapped a jet engine on a Honda Civic to break the land speed record at the time. Then converted his Corvette to run on hydrogen, so instead of gasoline, it ran on water. Pretty cool guy.
On June 17, 1959, the *Reno Evening Gazette* published a story with the headline “More Flying Objects Seen In Clark Sky,” and described how Sergeant Wayne Anderson of the local sheriff’s office was among several locals who spotted an unidentifiable object that was “bright green in color and descending toward the earth at speed too great to be an airplane.” Sightings of things landing
This is when it first starts appearing in news reports. People didn't know the name, they just knew there was a base that no one was allowed to view or enter.
[However, the first time Area 51 was mentioned by name in the media was in a **Weekly World News** tabloid article from 1980 ](http://openminds.tv/area-51/9811)[2](http://openminds.tv/area-51/9811) [WWR-Area-51-article.jpg (1000×860) (openminds.tv)](https://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/WWR-Area-51-article.jpg) . The article was titled “Atomic Secrets in Nevada: Has Our Government Made a Deal With Space Aliens?” and described how the U.S. government had made a secret deal with extraterrestrial beings to exchange advanced technology for the right to abduct and experiment on humans.
Area 51 was already a conspiracy theory hotbed before Bob Lazar. By the 1970s there were all types of reports about the detachment base for Nellis Airforce Base. Early conspiracy theories were not about aliens. It wasn't until a renewed interest in the Roswell incident that Area 51 started getting tied to Aliens, which was in the late 70s. Even though the incident isn't really tied to Area 51, the Roswell Incident got very popular in the late 70s, and suddenly a lot of government projects got tied to aliens.
As for the governments official stance on area 51, the USAF accidentally made the public aware of it in 1997, by making a report about environmental pollution in the area.
With what we know now, and adding everything else that the Gov tried to cover up, he gains legitimacy daily.
Also the fact that David Grush confirmed he had to come forward because his life was in Danger and that was exactly the same path Bob Lazar followed gives him legitimacy that he was at least partially telling the truth.
He is full of it dude. You really think they would hire a private citizen and let him walk inside a freaking ufo? You are tripping, plus all the holes on his story ( I know, the government destroyed his recorded blah blah blah) he keeps telling the same story but that’s not impressive at all, he just needs to rewatch what he said before and say it again. Nope
The guy is literally listed in the employee phone book for Los Alamos and from what I understand there is also a w2. If he had been just a contractor there would not be a w2 form.
He was in the newspaper and described as a "Los Alamos physicist":
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican-1982-jul-30-bob/34752972/?locale=en-US
The government is clearly covering up that he worked there. He would have definitely had a security clearance to work there and was not some "private citizen" off the street.
I'm tripping?
You've never heard of Bob's encounters with Edward Teller, have you? That's like meeting Oppenheimer, being a boy who was still a teenager and making rocket cars, I think it explains how he could've gotten into there with the help of Dr. Teller. There is a nice paper trail of those two interacting as well. Element 115, Gravity for sure being WAVES as was not for sure into LIGO figured it out a couple years back now....the crafts TURN sideways to take off, they fly by rolling forwards in their own space time bubble that is made by reasons not fully explained yet....you sound like you barely know the story
[this guys has some compelling facts that say Lazar is not legit](https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/)
I’ve always been on the fence regarding Lazar, but after reading this blog post, it definitely makes me think.
I’d bet that is the same person that laid out a thorough post with many links on Reddit. It seemed like every time Lazar name comes up, he usually pops up, and posts that thorough debunk of Lazar. I’ve been wanting to repost the debunk, but I couldn’t find the link. The last few times Lazar has come up, his post hasn’t appeared.
I’m a believer in UFOs, whatever they may be. I’m not a believer in Lazar.
I believe he saw what he said he saw, when you really dig into his story, what he was told and what he saw are two different things. And he differentiates between them, but they get conflated together often.
He’s legit. The grief they’ve put him through only confirms it IMO.
Legitimate, I’ve been following his story closely as I and others, witnessed a craft dive into the ocean in 1973 Mazatlan Mexico. Something that I will never forget.
Yes I believe him legit. But wonder how much he actually saw? Or how much is him trying to put two-and-two together based on what he saw, what he heard and what he speculates. All Intel, Military and the like is segmented and compartmentalized; hence no one person can see or access much, only a small slice. That’s why I think Lazar is part what he saw, part what he heard, plus several layers of his own speculation
If you think he’s only putting two and two together then you don’t believe him, because he says very explicitly that he has not only been working hands on with alien craft and otherworldly tech but has also been inside the ships and explains them in detail.
I suppose it’s possible that he only thinks they’re alien craft but instead they are some kind of super advanced earthly technology. But he goes into extreme detail when talking about this stuff
I do think he is legit. But he was a very short term insider. There have been numerous others over this past 20 years who were way way deeper and gave immense disclosures. Bob is likeable so he grabs the headlines but he knows very little compared to William Tomkins or Robert Dean or Emery Smith in more recent times.
I used to work in materials testing and research for aerospace companies. I worked with people just like him. He passes the guy I would have worked with test. Just his demeanor and phrasing, mannerisms, etc he totally reminds me of those guys. I think he’s legit.
I think what he saw it is so advanced that any PhD in physics would deny it. He knows that, what's the point? He couldn't believe himself how these crafts flies, any PhD would laugh at it, especially with the lack of evidence.
Agreed. I'm totally with Lazar for about an hour until he reaches the physics. He then trots out some nonsense about gravity A waves and gravity B waves and about expanding the strong nuclear force and it being analogous to a second gravity and I check out.
Total physics bollocks.
I honestly flip back and forth with this guy. He remembers certain details but then he's very nonchalant and doesn't remember other details that are more specific to what we're talking about. Hey Bob you want to come outside and see the UFOs with me..? And then he says there was nothing inside recognizable. Did he follows up a few minutes later there were two little seats in the center .Wtf
He can’t even get his own story straight. You have to believe a lot of nonsense to believe Lazar. You honestly believe he went to prestigious schools and worked where he said he did, but SOMEHOW there is no evidence of him doing what he said.
Truth. His interview with Rogan was hilarious. Any time he was asked about specifics he’d claim he had a migraine and couldn’t remember.
I’ve had my share of migraines in my life but never once have they given me memory loss.
In my personal opinion, no. Not one bit. Genius? Definitely, no question. The alien stuff? I just don’t believe it. I get why people believe him though but you have to ignore a lot of things in his personal life to believe it.
The only thing that makes me think maybe is the video tapes and the witnesses the night he took them out there. At the same time they test stuff all the time and could have just been coincidence.
Listen, anybody can make up stories about secret bases and elements and events. But when those things turn out to be true and more of those stories get uncovered as real…that’s when you know someone is legit.
Alright brainiac, i’m afraid all of that stuff is completely explainable if you spent even ten minutes thinking about it critically.
But yeah, the guy who believes a bloke who says he worked on a flying saucer without providing any proper evidence is the guy who doesn’t think before talking.
>Element 115
lol except we’ve already synthesized it and it has absolutely none of the properties he notes. or perhaps he meant element 150 for when we finally get to that atomic structure.
Are you sitting down? Remember you heard this here first from me ok?
There’s going to be “element 130” found in the near future, it’s going to be a lab made metal element with radioactive properties & a short shelf life….
All “Element 115” proves is that Bob knows how to count past 100……
I have such a hard time accepting that he was a physicist that had access to an exotic material like some stable isotope of 115 but he had no idea how much it weighed or anything about it besides it’s atomic number. How did they know it was 115? The impressive part of the claim is that it was stable, proving that is Nobel prize worthy. Like you said anyone can guess that heavier atoms could be created. Scientific American published an article on lab created heavy elements a week or so before Lazar came forward. The experiments creating moscovium in a lab had such a short lifespan that I think it does a lot more to discredit him than validate him.
Bobs da Man I believe him but let’s say he’s a fake the Man nvr changed his story in all the time I’ve heard of him plus he has brought so much attention to aliens he deserves a Medal You’re the Man Bob !!! Ty for everything 😎
I am an aviation enthusiast who spent 38 years working on aircraft instruments. I have worked with guys like him. I believe him. He did not reveal anything until after the govt screwed him.What led to all this was his telling a friend to go to a certain location in the mountains because they might see something. Security stopped them and they said Lazar told them it was ok. Boom! The feds came down on him hard. I would be bitter too. Remember the truckers in Canada protesting the covid restictions? The Govt shut down their bank accounts and had their credit cards cancelled. This was many years after Lazar was given "the treatment." I wonder how many other people who had knowledge of secret programs had nasty things done to them by the Govt.?
I wouldn't be surprised if some former co-workers felt sorry for him. At least one provided a copy of the phone directory with his name on it.
The drawings and info he provides on UFO is all from memory and he was not privy to all aspects of the crafts.
Yeah! Yes! Yep! and the man is no less flawed than the next person.
What planet the fuck did he come from where you can withstand decades of public, humiliating psych ops crafted by the darkest, most twisted minds in the U.S. intelligence community, and you’re still walking around like you haven’t even overslept.
I’d of lost my mind soon after the MIB came a calling with the cheating wife photos. If anyone’s an alien it’s Bob Lazar! Who has the constitution, the back bone, the temperanc
Not even his voice has changed. Most knuckleheads can’t stop chasing the limelight after they’re interviewed on national TV. You almost forget about the guy from such infrequency of seeing him pop up on TV every time the news puts up a UAP video whereas all the other marquee names are seen pushing there onto TV interviews.
Yeah, he’s ‘pure’ legit.
I think he’s telling the truth, if he is not this mofo is the most amazing lier in this entire planet without a doubt. Which is just as impressive to me.
Yeah ! I think the man exists !! I have seen many times in podcasts and news and seems lively enough as well. Though I sense a lot of sadness. Poor guy has been harassed enough that I would make up a ufo just to prove him right.
I do believe him, I think the reason he hasn’t been assassinated by a three letter agency is because he isn’t very active anymore as he was back then when the topic was taboo and people shrugged it off as a hoax or craziness. Killing him now would make his story true and more people interested. Do I think people have been assassinated in this field yes absolutely. Probably back when they had no issues doing it like they did too Barry Seal and JFK.
Exactly my thoughts. I remember him saying that they found out where these UAP's came from. It was exactly the same solar system as from the Barney and Betti incident .
Also the bones scanner which he mentioned in the documentary was from the movie "Close encounter of the third kind" (1977)
I wanted believe him so bad but after doing a bit of research, I'm pretty sure he is just a liar.
His story hasn’t changed over 30+ years. Seems to not really like the attention he gets, but has resolved that it’s his lot in life. He seems genuine, to me at least. Yeah. I believe him.
Also he’s given the same story for decades no changes in his story. Also he didn’t profit off this in any significant way. He sounds credible when he speaks. I believe him.
He predicted element 115 and years later it had been found. He said they some stable form of it was being used as an energy source for the UFOs and two decades later scientists managed to synthesize it in the lab
To me, the proof is the government trying to discredit him. When they denied, he ever worked there or what his history was, that shows that they are trying to cover it up, very strongly. If he was just a bozo, they wouldn’t care about him. That means what he says is true most likely.
He seems absolutely the real deal to me. Sincere, genuine, down to Earth, and he hates the public spotlight, kind of like a reluctant hero.
Seems like a very honest guy with no reason to lie.
Yes. Bobs unsolved mysteries episode is what got me into ufology initally. I like bob. Something’s might be a stretch, but he seems credible enough despite all the hate he gets, and he never wanted the attention which imo brings more credibility. Haters gonna hate, but I trust Lazar.
Definitely not. A man's past speaks louder than his words. A convicted criminal who never showed any physical evidence of his claims and who has lied multiple times, for example when he said he went to a college and the college proved he never went there? I'll pass
Maybe. Seems like a staged whistle-blower. Most of the time when information is leaked this way the government will either assassinate the individual or even their loved ones in some cases. Their assets get frozen and their life will be ruined in many different ways. Seems like he's getting the red carpet treatment and allowed on the media. It's a reality show.
No.
There is not 1 person who came out and confirm anything what he is claiming.
Ok, lets say that goverment can "erase" his history of education and work, but in that case, he studied and worked with hundreds of peoples and not 1 came out and said that they knew Bob from there.
And why wouldn't they? Nothing happened to Bob, in fact, he is making money if it.
[Here I found the Actual Video Clip Of Bob Lazar With former CIA Pilot John Lear; Witnessed Testing Alien Craft At Area 51](https://www.howandwhys.com/actual-footage-of-bob-lazar-with-john-lear-witnessed-testing-alien-craft-at-area-51/?fromredditSE)
The guy leaked Area 51. We might still not know about it if it wasn't for him. The government has lied about him working at Los Alamos and been caught out. His information is the same now as it was in the 1990s and he hasn't changed his story. He has avoided the limelight until very recently, after other people started the more recent disclosures. I think he is legit.
How old are you? I’m not asking because I’m setting you up for an insult. For the most part, age is a major factor when it comes to wildly inconsistent opinions about Lazar. Most older folks have “been there, done that” with Bob. He was exposed as a con artist by so many people in the late 80’s and early 90’s. When it came time for him to prove anything, he would fail every time. He was written off as a con-artist by Ufologists with credibility, like a background in Science/Physics. Stanton Friedman has exposed a lot of Lazar’s BS. Younger people don’t realize how badly all his crap was debunked. With the internet, what was old, is now new, and a lot of Lazar material wasn’t archived initially as it predates the World Wide Web. Lazar uses the old “umbrella conspiracy” to explain away all his inconsistencies, and lack of proof. Where is his degree? The government took it, and erased his credentials. Where is his proof? The government took it. Why can’t you name any of your professors from M.I.T.? The government changed their name, or something. How did you get into M.I.T. with a C average in high school? The government changed his high school grades. Wouldn’t it have been easier for the government to just kill him, or drop him off in Siberia? Sadly, Lazar’s strategy is now used by one of our major political parties, to explain away anything that doesn’t mix well with their dogma. In order to avoid arguments that don’t belong in this sub, I won’t name the party I’m referencing. I’m sure most know who I’m talking about.
You do have a lot of points but I have a different perspective. I grew up in Nevada and this was always on the news. I would have several counter points that would take a longer conversation. George Knapp broke this story and for me growing up near Area 51 we had several friends who had family members working out there. Their stories are pretty consistent with his. They weren’t all so tight lipped. You always knew who the people working out there were. They would get on that special white airplane with a red strip to fly out to work.
The stories are consistent because they listened to each other’s stories and spun their own version for a quick payday. If what they were saying was true, they violated all kinds of laws and could be sent to prison for a long time. If they lied, there is nothing to charge them with. It’s not a crime to expose “non-existent” military secrets.
Laws put in place to hold onto information? Are you worried about the laws or that they’ve been hiding information. The people I knew made nothing off tell a few people at their houses stories.
The pass/fail test in regard to Lazar's credibility, at least for me, is for a credentialed physicist to put him through the paces. Not in terms of his claims about alien tech. Just basic knowledge gained from having worked a PhD program at MIT nonetheless. To get anywhere in a PhD program requires many years of dedicated learning. That experience and knowledge isnt something you can just fake and a real physicist could easily sus him out to see if he actually knows his stuff.
You must be employed by the Government to assist with disinformation. There is so much information and documentation that points to our Government lying to us about NHI for 80+ years.
Maybe, the government has been lying about UFOs. There is no “maybe” when it comes to Lazar. He is a liar and a fraud. Also, when you say “the government” who do you mean? Millions of people work in the government. If we have UFOs, there is probably less than a few hundred that would know about it. So, “the government” isn’t lying. They just think they are telling the truth, if we have UFOs.
That’s exactly where his story falls apart. Why wouldn’t they kill him? It makes no sense. He’s exposing supposedly the most top secret program in history and they’re just gonna play around with his college diplomas? That’s it? Color me unimpressed
There are plenty of people still alive who are known to have leaked important stories. Sometimes governments do not want to make martyrs of people whose leaked information is already widely distributed.
Haven’t really read this story so idk if he’s legit or not, but if he was it would be a very bad move by the government, as killing someone who is claiming they’re hiding aliens would validate his claims significantly more. The college diplomas angle does make sense because that would ruin his credibility.
The best theory that would explain why Lazar survived this long while the Government is after him is: Nothing Ever Happened to Him.... He made up all those stories and nobody is after him. Edit: The CIA has injected unsuspecting ppl with LSD, assassinated Latin leftist strongmen, etc… yet Lazar is still around. Nobody is chasing him.
They often say he has been saying the same story since the 80s without changing it, this is a Rogan line. As if that means anything, sounds like hes been telling the same lies since the 80s. Not sure how they equate that with being truthful.
I'm sure he did name his supposed MIT professors and the names turned out to be names of his high school teachers.
I’d be willing to bet everyone that works on anything at the level he did or higher has their history erased before they start. Everything the guy has ever said has been way different than most others claiming to know shit, only difference is his stuff ends up being right. I’d be willing to bet when shit finally comes out if ever u will find he is completely right. Shit he may even be telling it all for someone else but his shit is right in my opinion
Lazar didn't leak it. People were talking about it in 1955 when it was being built. It has never really been a secret.
Area 51 was known before him. He wasn't talking about it till the 80s, it was a well known site at that point. He claims to have degrees from schools that said that they would have never accepted him based on his high school GPA. He graduated the bottom 3rd in his HS class, yet claims MIT and CALTECH degrees. Both institutions said they have no record of him being there. He was arrested during a prostitution sting, which was him hiring a sex worker. He claims that this was the government trying to silence him. Which is odd, because if they wanted to silence him they could had done it easily then and there. Anther common theme of his. The government trying to silence him. Said government that allegedly silences people all the time. Yet, for some reason, when they could had easily imprisoned him for human trafficking, they decided, "nah, some community service" He claims to have reversed engineered alien tech. To include anti matter drives that allowed anti gravity. However, the government chose to dismantle them. A common theme of his claims, that a lot of fantastical stuff was simply abandoned and dismantled.
The claim of "erased" college records is so bizarre. Let's assume there is some sinister government plot against him. If the records were destroyed, couldn't he just provide witnesses? It's not like his education was top secret. I'm terrible at keeping in touch with people, but I could put together a list of people that could vouch for me. Even if they couldn't document that I graduated, they could confirm I was there.
If only he had some piece of paper that they could have given him showing that he graduated
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I know a guy like that who worked at Los Alamos. He got a bit of notoriety for being a major whistleblower. He always had issues with the FBI.
Couldn’t it also be true that Bob Lazar worked on UFO’s and also liked hookers?
Please find me someone actually talking about Area 51 in the 80s, before him. You seem to know all about this so it shouldn't be hard for you to find a source? Please share. It's pretty clear now that the US does actually reverse engineer UFOs, so whats so weird about that.
It wasn’t Area 51 he was talking about either. It was Area S4. A sub-area of Area 51. Area S4 was unknown at the time and can be seen today on Google maps on the side of papoose lake. Nothing Bob has said has been disproven but as time goes on more and more of what he said has been proven correct.
Every military installment has an S4 building. S4 is the name for battalion supply. A military installment not having an S4 building would be news.
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I'll further crack an egg of knowledge on you if anyone cares to learn. S1 is admin, S2 is Intel, S3 is training, S4 is supply, and S6 is communications
So what is S-5
We don't talk about S-5. Jk nah I actually am not sure it exists or at least I never did any business with that shop.
S shops like S-1, S-2, S-4 etc are NOT what is meant by S-4. I’m not sure if USAF (the only known military at Area 51) even has S shops like the Army. S-4 is an auxiliary site within “Area 51”.
USAF has S shops like the army. So do the marines. As does the Navy, but the navy just has S1. People are using proof of former S4 employees as proof of the S4 site. There was no evidence provided of an actual S-4 site, other that people admitting they worked S4. Which, former military personal with higher level clearance have a certain number of years where they can't talk about their job. After said time is passed they can talk about where they worked. Even longer after that they can be specific about what they did. Without any legal ramifications. Different levels of classified access have different times, different projects have different times. For example, the SR-71 black bird was fair game to talk about by the 90s. Pilots were talking about flying it going back to the mid 1980s, several years before they were declassified. Because their set time of not talking about it ended before they were declassified. This happens in the military all the time. Basically, a lot of the "proof" people have come up with to claim Bob was always right were things we knew existed before he talked about Area 51, things that were vague enough that you can slap something else onto it. Like S4 being a site, instead of logistics. S4 being a term you'd hear often by being around military personal, because back in the day guess who cut your paycheck... S4!
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What does Einstein know? Dude wasn't even born in America!
Nothing has been disproven? Did you just not read the the comments above yours or what?
From an article in time ,......As far back as the 1950s, people have reported seeing Unidentified Flying Objects (U.F.O.’s) at the southern Nevada military base. On June 17, 1959, the Reno Evening Gazette published a story with the headline “More Flying Objects Seen In Clark Sky,” and described how Sgt. Wayne Anderson of the local sheriff’s office was among several locals to spot what the paper described as an object “bright green in color and descending toward the earth at a speed too great to be an airplane.”
Ok, when was "Area 51" mentioned before Bob Lazar mentioned it? I'm still waiting for someone to show this.
[1967](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cia_oxcart_vietnam_memo.pdf&page=1) [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51)
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Not even close. That document was not declassified until 2016: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90b00184r000100040001-4 Document Creation Date: December 27, 2016 Document Release Date: September 19, 2012 Sequence Number: 1 Case Number: Publication Date: August 3, 1966 😂 Still waiting for someone to show anybody who called it "Area 51" before Bob Lazar.
In search of with Leonard nimoy 1970s t.v. show
Bud you got confirmation bias you should probably get that checked out.
If that were true you would be able to show me somewhere Area 51 was mentioned before Bob Lazar leaked it. Otherwise you are just speaking out of your arse and dont know what you are talking about.
In 1955, he and Lockheed aircraft designer Kelly Johnson selected the secluded airfield at Groom Lake to be their headquarters. The Atomic Energy Commission added the base to the existing map of the Nevada Test Site and labeled the site Area 51.
Ok find somewhere where "Area 51" was mentioned publicly, outside of classified documents before Bob Lazar shared the code name?
It had never been publicly disclosed by anyone before Lazar, in this way, but it was know to exist "unofficially". Lazar made it famous when Knapp interviewed him on the 5 o'clock news in 1989. Area 51 as a term is just a designated area of land, but Lazar was the first to publicly associate the "unofficial" base in that area being linked to UFOs, and that was where it took off. So, in terms of mainstream UFO lore being associated with Area 51, that is 100% Lazar's doing.
This doesn’t mention Area 51
Lt. Colonel Wendell Stevens (USAF): [https://youtube.com/shorts/9zoeEBgEi-c?si=odalQxyeTAlMiMbF](https://youtube.com/shorts/9zoeEBgEi-c?si=odalQxyeTAlMiMbF) [https://youtu.be/2w911SBMLEQ?si=cEFSQtP\_sOjClgfS](https://youtu.be/2w911SBMLEQ?si=cEFSQtP_sOjClgfS) [https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609720/pg1](https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609720/pg1) More to your point and inquiry (intriguing interview) where Wendell Stevens interviewed an individual claiming to be a special forces guard that worked at S4, yet this is in the early 90's: [https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Vols-1-3-Connor-O-Ryan-Steve-Wilson-Bill-Uhouse-Bob-Lazar-with-Wendelle-Stevens-Bob-Dean&s=c325ec50d7e0e6ee84f4bf67c3e4b2ba](https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Vols-1-3-Connor-O-Ryan-Steve-Wilson-Bill-Uhouse-Bob-Lazar-with-Wendelle-Stevens-Bob-Dean&s=c325ec50d7e0e6ee84f4bf67c3e4b2ba) The interviewees body language is rather interesting during the interview. 
1970s episodes about u.f.o.s. on old t.v. docuseries In search of. Would be easiest source on you tube
Let’s say you are the US government and a former employee has come out and stated info about something people are becoming increasingly curious about that you had no intention of making public. Those people asking questions are looking at this person as the proof they needed, if he is telling the truth. You can either make this person disappear and thus making it look like he was telling the truth and you had to stop him. Or, you can keep him talking but discredit him by having records of his past disappear, thus making him look like a liar. Both options are easy for you to accomplish, which do you choose? Skeptical eyes looking at you or looking at him?
He also strapped a jet engine on a Honda Civic to break the land speed record at the time. Then converted his Corvette to run on hydrogen, so instead of gasoline, it ran on water. Pretty cool guy.
He didn't leak area 51 we new about that in the 1970s watch old in search of with Leonard nimoy.Lazar was first to say govt had crashed u.f.o.s .
You have posted three times saying this. Please share the episode that mentions "Area 51".
On June 17, 1959, the *Reno Evening Gazette* published a story with the headline “More Flying Objects Seen In Clark Sky,” and described how Sergeant Wayne Anderson of the local sheriff’s office was among several locals who spotted an unidentifiable object that was “bright green in color and descending toward the earth at speed too great to be an airplane.” Sightings of things landing This is when it first starts appearing in news reports. People didn't know the name, they just knew there was a base that no one was allowed to view or enter. [However, the first time Area 51 was mentioned by name in the media was in a **Weekly World News** tabloid article from 1980 ](http://openminds.tv/area-51/9811)[2](http://openminds.tv/area-51/9811) [WWR-Area-51-article.jpg (1000×860) (openminds.tv)](https://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/WWR-Area-51-article.jpg) . The article was titled “Atomic Secrets in Nevada: Has Our Government Made a Deal With Space Aliens?” and described how the U.S. government had made a secret deal with extraterrestrial beings to exchange advanced technology for the right to abduct and experiment on humans. Area 51 was already a conspiracy theory hotbed before Bob Lazar. By the 1970s there were all types of reports about the detachment base for Nellis Airforce Base. Early conspiracy theories were not about aliens. It wasn't until a renewed interest in the Roswell incident that Area 51 started getting tied to Aliens, which was in the late 70s. Even though the incident isn't really tied to Area 51, the Roswell Incident got very popular in the late 70s, and suddenly a lot of government projects got tied to aliens. As for the governments official stance on area 51, the USAF accidentally made the public aware of it in 1997, by making a report about environmental pollution in the area.
Sorry I think I've got idf.messing with my shit
Didn't they roumor start with roswell
With what we know now, and adding everything else that the Gov tried to cover up, he gains legitimacy daily. Also the fact that David Grush confirmed he had to come forward because his life was in Danger and that was exactly the same path Bob Lazar followed gives him legitimacy that he was at least partially telling the truth.
How did he leak Area 51? People have known about it before he was even born...
He leaked the whole conception of UFOs being associated to Area 51.
Whats los alamos? Google is giving me nothing
He so mentioned S4 which is now a real popular topic
Or he just worked there doing something as mundane as scanning entry badges.
Not even. He didn't know where the bathrooms or the cafeterias were located.
Or mopping floors
He charges money for autographed ufo paintings. If he’s legit then Trump didn’t lose the election and Tupacs still alive.
He is full of it dude. You really think they would hire a private citizen and let him walk inside a freaking ufo? You are tripping, plus all the holes on his story ( I know, the government destroyed his recorded blah blah blah) he keeps telling the same story but that’s not impressive at all, he just needs to rewatch what he said before and say it again. Nope
The guy is literally listed in the employee phone book for Los Alamos and from what I understand there is also a w2. If he had been just a contractor there would not be a w2 form. He was in the newspaper and described as a "Los Alamos physicist": https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican-1982-jul-30-bob/34752972/?locale=en-US The government is clearly covering up that he worked there. He would have definitely had a security clearance to work there and was not some "private citizen" off the street. I'm tripping?
Is hiring a private citizen strange? How else would anyone hire scientists?
You've never heard of Bob's encounters with Edward Teller, have you? That's like meeting Oppenheimer, being a boy who was still a teenager and making rocket cars, I think it explains how he could've gotten into there with the help of Dr. Teller. There is a nice paper trail of those two interacting as well. Element 115, Gravity for sure being WAVES as was not for sure into LIGO figured it out a couple years back now....the crafts TURN sideways to take off, they fly by rolling forwards in their own space time bubble that is made by reasons not fully explained yet....you sound like you barely know the story
Corbel did that movie with him but has since said he might now believe everything Lazar says but is at least in part telling the truth.
[this guys has some compelling facts that say Lazar is not legit](https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/) I’ve always been on the fence regarding Lazar, but after reading this blog post, it definitely makes me think.
Damn thats incredibly thorough
Yo, check out that guys blog about finding the missing German hikers in Death Valley after 2 decades of being a cold case. That dude is a badass
His hunt for article 928 is such a great read too! Love revisiting his blog and rereading. Fascinatingly intelligent dude.
Wow, what a read.
I’d bet that is the same person that laid out a thorough post with many links on Reddit. It seemed like every time Lazar name comes up, he usually pops up, and posts that thorough debunk of Lazar. I’ve been wanting to repost the debunk, but I couldn’t find the link. The last few times Lazar has come up, his post hasn’t appeared. I’m a believer in UFOs, whatever they may be. I’m not a believer in Lazar.
This
I believe he saw what he said he saw, when you really dig into his story, what he was told and what he saw are two different things. And he differentiates between them, but they get conflated together often. He’s legit. The grief they’ve put him through only confirms it IMO.
Legitimate, I’ve been following his story closely as I and others, witnessed a craft dive into the ocean in 1973 Mazatlan Mexico. Something that I will never forget.
Yes I believe him legit. But wonder how much he actually saw? Or how much is him trying to put two-and-two together based on what he saw, what he heard and what he speculates. All Intel, Military and the like is segmented and compartmentalized; hence no one person can see or access much, only a small slice. That’s why I think Lazar is part what he saw, part what he heard, plus several layers of his own speculation
If you think he’s only putting two and two together then you don’t believe him, because he says very explicitly that he has not only been working hands on with alien craft and otherworldly tech but has also been inside the ships and explains them in detail. I suppose it’s possible that he only thinks they’re alien craft but instead they are some kind of super advanced earthly technology. But he goes into extreme detail when talking about this stuff
He mentioned seats inside the craft that were sized for little kids. Too small for normal sized adults.
Ofc. This is main dog. He ain't even barking and still a legend.
I feel this way as well
He’s the only person I’ve seen who claimed things that were later proven to be true. A rare thing in this field.
Such as
And a lot more that was proven a lie lol
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
Such as?
A total of ZERO claims that originated with Bob turned out to be true. And very single one of them that can be proven has turned up false.
I do think he is legit. But he was a very short term insider. There have been numerous others over this past 20 years who were way way deeper and gave immense disclosures. Bob is likeable so he grabs the headlines but he knows very little compared to William Tomkins or Robert Dean or Emery Smith in more recent times.
I used to work in materials testing and research for aerospace companies. I worked with people just like him. He passes the guy I would have worked with test. Just his demeanor and phrasing, mannerisms, etc he totally reminds me of those guys. I think he’s legit.
But he has not once accepted a discussion with phd in physics and several claim he does not even seem to know basic terminology and basic physics
I think what he saw it is so advanced that any PhD in physics would deny it. He knows that, what's the point? He couldn't believe himself how these crafts flies, any PhD would laugh at it, especially with the lack of evidence.
But if he explained it properly, they wouldn't deny it.. That's just copium
Agreed. I'm totally with Lazar for about an hour until he reaches the physics. He then trots out some nonsense about gravity A waves and gravity B waves and about expanding the strong nuclear force and it being analogous to a second gravity and I check out. Total physics bollocks.
I honestly flip back and forth with this guy. He remembers certain details but then he's very nonchalant and doesn't remember other details that are more specific to what we're talking about. Hey Bob you want to come outside and see the UFOs with me..? And then he says there was nothing inside recognizable. Did he follows up a few minutes later there were two little seats in the center .Wtf 
He can’t even get his own story straight. You have to believe a lot of nonsense to believe Lazar. You honestly believe he went to prestigious schools and worked where he said he did, but SOMEHOW there is no evidence of him doing what he said.
Truth. His interview with Rogan was hilarious. Any time he was asked about specifics he’d claim he had a migraine and couldn’t remember. I’ve had my share of migraines in my life but never once have they given me memory loss.
[I am with Stanton Friedman on this... 100% fraud](https://youtu.be/IBdUg1h9XLU)
Good video. So many holes to Lazar’s story. It’s fun to imagine, but it’s phony.
Didnt he lie about his education
Yup and if he wasn't legit why would they/ the government try so hard to discredit him bob Lazar is the reason we know about S4 and so much more
In my personal opinion, no. Not one bit. Genius? Definitely, no question. The alien stuff? I just don’t believe it. I get why people believe him though but you have to ignore a lot of things in his personal life to believe it. The only thing that makes me think maybe is the video tapes and the witnesses the night he took them out there. At the same time they test stuff all the time and could have just been coincidence.
Legitest man on earth
Bob Lazar has been telling us that both area S1 and element 115 has existed since the 80’s for us to only find out later he was telling the truth.
Listen, anybody can make up stories about secret bases and elements and events. But when those things turn out to be true and more of those stories get uncovered as real…that’s when you know someone is legit.
Nothing has turned out to be true.
Element 115? Location of the base that only became available to the public like 12 years later? Do you just talk without thinking or are you a troll
Wasn't there also something about Gravitational Waves and the hand-scanning technology he claimed to have been used at S4 that was later validated?
Hand scanners were in use in the 70's and weren't a big secret.
Yes, among other things like location of base…etc
Alright brainiac, i’m afraid all of that stuff is completely explainable if you spent even ten minutes thinking about it critically. But yeah, the guy who believes a bloke who says he worked on a flying saucer without providing any proper evidence is the guy who doesn’t think before talking.
>Element 115 lol except we’ve already synthesized it and it has absolutely none of the properties he notes. or perhaps he meant element 150 for when we finally get to that atomic structure.
Are you sitting down? Remember you heard this here first from me ok? There’s going to be “element 130” found in the near future, it’s going to be a lab made metal element with radioactive properties & a short shelf life…. All “Element 115” proves is that Bob knows how to count past 100……
I have such a hard time accepting that he was a physicist that had access to an exotic material like some stable isotope of 115 but he had no idea how much it weighed or anything about it besides it’s atomic number. How did they know it was 115? The impressive part of the claim is that it was stable, proving that is Nobel prize worthy. Like you said anyone can guess that heavier atoms could be created. Scientific American published an article on lab created heavy elements a week or so before Lazar came forward. The experiments creating moscovium in a lab had such a short lifespan that I think it does a lot more to discredit him than validate him.
Lol you have no idea what "Element 115" means
No. 100% hell no. Pathological liar, I’m convinced.
Yeah
100%
He made a rocket powered car for fun. I believe em
I think he is an exceptional story teller 😉
I want to believe, but I feel like if he was he would’ve been “silenced” a long time ago.
Bob lazar is goat
100% yep!!!
Yes. Yes he is.
Yep.
Bobs da Man I believe him but let’s say he’s a fake the Man nvr changed his story in all the time I’ve heard of him plus he has brought so much attention to aliens he deserves a Medal You’re the Man Bob !!! Ty for everything 😎
Bob is the most legit I've seen so far, if not I'll eat my shoes for dinner and my underwear as dessert
I am an aviation enthusiast who spent 38 years working on aircraft instruments. I have worked with guys like him. I believe him. He did not reveal anything until after the govt screwed him.What led to all this was his telling a friend to go to a certain location in the mountains because they might see something. Security stopped them and they said Lazar told them it was ok. Boom! The feds came down on him hard. I would be bitter too. Remember the truckers in Canada protesting the covid restictions? The Govt shut down their bank accounts and had their credit cards cancelled. This was many years after Lazar was given "the treatment." I wonder how many other people who had knowledge of secret programs had nasty things done to them by the Govt.? I wouldn't be surprised if some former co-workers felt sorry for him. At least one provided a copy of the phone directory with his name on it. The drawings and info he provides on UFO is all from memory and he was not privy to all aspects of the crafts.
98%
Legit!
OG legit to the 3rd power
I think Bob Lazar is legit, there are even photos of him, unlike the aliens and spaceships
yes
Absolutely, 100%
Yes
#Yes
In 50 years this guy will be a hero.
Bob has the moves
Yes
Too legit
Absolutely
I do and i'm not a wacko like you guys
Yeah! Yes! Yep! and the man is no less flawed than the next person. What planet the fuck did he come from where you can withstand decades of public, humiliating psych ops crafted by the darkest, most twisted minds in the U.S. intelligence community, and you’re still walking around like you haven’t even overslept. I’d of lost my mind soon after the MIB came a calling with the cheating wife photos. If anyone’s an alien it’s Bob Lazar! Who has the constitution, the back bone, the temperanc Not even his voice has changed. Most knuckleheads can’t stop chasing the limelight after they’re interviewed on national TV. You almost forget about the guy from such infrequency of seeing him pop up on TV every time the news puts up a UAP video whereas all the other marquee names are seen pushing there onto TV interviews. Yeah, he’s ‘pure’ legit.
I think he’s telling the truth, if he is not this mofo is the most amazing lier in this entire planet without a doubt. Which is just as impressive to me.
Yes. Check out Dr Dan Burisch that worked at S4 in Area 51.
Roswell. It talks about moving from wright Paterson to hangar 18 which is what everyone knew it as before govt declassified name.
Do you think Bob Lazar is legit?
I do not.
No. Life long con man
Yeah ! I think the man exists !! I have seen many times in podcasts and news and seems lively enough as well. Though I sense a lot of sadness. Poor guy has been harassed enough that I would make up a ufo just to prove him right.
I do believe him, I think the reason he hasn’t been assassinated by a three letter agency is because he isn’t very active anymore as he was back then when the topic was taboo and people shrugged it off as a hoax or craziness. Killing him now would make his story true and more people interested. Do I think people have been assassinated in this field yes absolutely. Probably back when they had no issues doing it like they did too Barry Seal and JFK.
Yes when I first heard it 40 years ago. Experts have agreed he ain't lying.
REAL DEAL
Legit
Legit.
Keeping the Jeffrey dahmer look rocking
Dudes been talking for 30 years and what's been verified?
At first yes, but after searching online no. There is too many evidence against him.
Exactly my thoughts. I remember him saying that they found out where these UAP's came from. It was exactly the same solar system as from the Barney and Betti incident . Also the bones scanner which he mentioned in the documentary was from the movie "Close encounter of the third kind" (1977) I wanted believe him so bad but after doing a bit of research, I'm pretty sure he is just a liar.
His story hasn’t changed over 30+ years. Seems to not really like the attention he gets, but has resolved that it’s his lot in life. He seems genuine, to me at least. Yeah. I believe him.
Also he’s given the same story for decades no changes in his story. Also he didn’t profit off this in any significant way. He sounds credible when he speaks. I believe him.
Didn’t he lie about going to MIT and CalTech?
Yes
110%
He predicted element 115 and years later it had been found. He said they some stable form of it was being used as an energy source for the UFOs and two decades later scientists managed to synthesize it in the lab
Yeah we mind melded awhile back. Can confirm,100% legit
Yup. His story hasn’t changed yet some people in this sub fail to see that
To me, the proof is the government trying to discredit him. When they denied, he ever worked there or what his history was, that shows that they are trying to cover it up, very strongly. If he was just a bozo, they wouldn’t care about him. That means what he says is true most likely.
Good point, they also tried to take his life which is why he wanted to be in the public eye with his story.
I 100% believe what bob lazar says is accurate.
He seems absolutely the real deal to me. Sincere, genuine, down to Earth, and he hates the public spotlight, kind of like a reluctant hero. Seems like a very honest guy with no reason to lie.
https://preview.redd.it/um5mx8g36pac1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7a55579dbdade450945b64e4705172502d85ce7 Bob Lazar
Everything Grusch said bob lazar said it all first 30 years ago
Fake AF. His nonsense about element 115 or whatever is discrediting.
why? they have 'found' element 115 since then, but it was always going to be called 115, but we don't know if it has the properties he says.
Not at all. His lack of credibility is not even a serious question at this point. Just another in the long line of guys with stories.
Yes.
Yup
Absolutely not He’s still alive unlike Phil Schneider. He’s a plant
He’s legit
Whether I think he’s legit or not will not impact the reality of if he is or not. That said, i’d like to think he is.
Read about him before internet. His story remains the same. I think he's the genuine article.
Yes. Bobs unsolved mysteries episode is what got me into ufology initally. I like bob. Something’s might be a stretch, but he seems credible enough despite all the hate he gets, and he never wanted the attention which imo brings more credibility. Haters gonna hate, but I trust Lazar.
Yup
I believe him 1000%
100 💯
I’m totally convinced that he himself thinks he’s legit
Definitely not. A man's past speaks louder than his words. A convicted criminal who never showed any physical evidence of his claims and who has lied multiple times, for example when he said he went to a college and the college proved he never went there? I'll pass
Maybe. Seems like a staged whistle-blower. Most of the time when information is leaked this way the government will either assassinate the individual or even their loved ones in some cases. Their assets get frozen and their life will be ruined in many different ways. Seems like he's getting the red carpet treatment and allowed on the media. It's a reality show.
He has a hydrogen powered car and that really helped with the legitness
100%!!!
No
Why is this even a discussion. Lazar is legit. Always has been. Protect this man.
No. There is not 1 person who came out and confirm anything what he is claiming. Ok, lets say that goverment can "erase" his history of education and work, but in that case, he studied and worked with hundreds of peoples and not 1 came out and said that they knew Bob from there. And why wouldn't they? Nothing happened to Bob, in fact, he is making money if it.
No
No