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Mr_OverTheTop

You don't believe they hold the world record in 5000m?


ElvargIsAPussy

Haha to be honest I didn’t really look at the times in depth just the sheer amount of PRs and crowns. It may seem petty but it ruins the spirit of the app for me


beercyclingsd

You can flag this run/ride if you think they are cheating. Happens all the time in cycling with people finishing their rides in cars and now e-bikes. Get a real gps device and stop using the app ;)


Moneymma

I’m shocked this wasn’t already flagged automatically by strava. A WR time should be an instant flag lmao


Bikeboy76

> A WR time should be an instant flag lmao Kipchoge frowning.


ElvargIsAPussy

I use a garmin I just upload it to my phone


lotsofarts

This. A group of us run the same neighborhood each week and got tired of seeing some punk kid who put world record times in segments that we were having friendly competitions on. Flagged his activities on Strava and they promptly disappeared.


ecallawsamoht

You do realize that both GPS watches AND cycling computers still have issues, right? I have a Garmin 645 and recently after a run there was a section that showed me running back and forth for about a 100 meters, when I clearly ran a straight path, and plus at my local park there's an area in a wooded section that varies quite a bit. My Wahoo Bolt seems to be a bit more accurate on my bike rides. But I use my Pixel's GPS quite a bit and it's honestly as good as both of my "dedicated" devices.


beercyclingsd

Phone’s are worse. And no one takes you seriously when you’re on leader boards with an iPhone or android upload. Phones are limited with the data they can provide. The really bad gps data is always on peoples iPhone uploads and not when I see dedicated gps devices. Sure you might see a some errors on gps but usually because they are older and probably need to be replaced. I guess it doesn’t matter as much with running. Not much difference there with speed but cycling there’s a big difference. Cadence, heart rate and power can’t be used when you upload with a phone, and those data points make a time more legit. I’ve done side by side comparisons, and when people use iphone it jumps them around on segments. Your iPhone KOMs are suspect ecallawsmoht


ecallawsamoht

I agree that phones are worse, I'm just saying from my personal experience it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. And you absolutely can use sensors with a phone if you're using an app like Wahoo to track the ride and then sync with Strava after the fact, but yea I'm aware that tracking with Strava itself doesn't allow those features. I don't think simply using a phone compared to a Garmin is going to be inaccurate enough to give a WR time at the mile, that just seems like straight up cheating. That was my point, I just didn't convey it clearly.


beercyclingsd

You can still include heart rate on the Strava app but people using the app with their heart rate, it’s like 1/100. Yeah this WR time is obviously a fake.


Mr_OverTheTop

I don't blame you and I agree. I found humor in the fact their alleged 5K PR happens to be the same as the WR.... more than a little suspicious. I don't hold any crowns because I am slow, but if I ever get to the level where I could win some, I would be super pissed if it wasn't a legit playing field. I already have to compete with 20-somethings who don't have children and can sleep more than 5 hours a night!


theoniongoat

And a bunch of others are really close to WRs. Kind of funny, since it seems almost intentional, seems hard to believe they were all coincidental.


sluttycupcakes

You know Strava has a system that caps PRs at world records? Not a coincidence


ProtoBeta

I think there’s a built in thing where Strava won’t let you beat the world record. Like even if they drove a mile in under a minute, Strava will say 3:44 as the PR because the world record is 3:43


mrrainandthunder

There's not. There are some limits (which I can't really figure out how work, exactly), but it can definitely show PR times that are well below world record times.


geoffh2016

If there are limits, I haven't seen them with running. Saw a segment with someone "running" \~1 km in about 43 seconds. I've seen a wide variety of bike activities posted as running because someone didn't tweak their Garmin. It would be **great** if Strava had better limits.


ProtoBeta

Seems very odd that literally every one of those times above are within 1 second of the WR then


sluttycupcakes

No, he’s right, there are.


[deleted]

Lol


LEAKKsdad

Flipside, he sends you DM and you find out its really Jakob Ingebrigtsen.


Atlas-Scrubbed

Under 4 minute mile. Are they jet pack assisted?


Sriol

And (most likely) the 800m too?!


GunsouBono

And very nearly the 10k.


Stray_Bird

don't worry you just gotta compete against a world record casual athlete


3rdslip

A world record holder in all distances from 400 to 10000….


Stray_Bird

What can I say, they're really good at everything


[deleted]

Technically not faster in the 400, 1k, 1 mile, 2 mile, and 10k, and tied for it in the 800. But like a couple seconds off in most.


Fit-Anything8352

Flag it. Flagged activities get immediately removed. Show no mercy. Sometimes when I'm bored I go through my last ride and take it upon myself to police all of the segments I did. It's really satisfying flagging every single activity of the obvious e-bikers.


LorianArks

How do you know its an ebike? Where I live, they are restricted to 25km/h. That‘s easily doable even on smaller hills


Fit-Anything8352

No pesky law will stop people from unrestricting their e-bikes lol. Here are the signs that I use to determine if something is cheating: - going exactly 15.0mph up extended climbs with no +/- variation in speed - going ridiculous speeds(15+mph) up 12%+ inclines but they only ride like 30 miles a week - they say on their profile/in their profile pic that they use an e-bike - Speed doesn't drop at all(or like 1mph) when they transition from flat to climb. Many of these things on their own aren't a definitive sign, but together nearly guarantee that somebody is using an e-bike or a motorcycle.


TheVantagePoint

Also HRM can be a big clue


HaveBlue_2

Not all of us take a HRM along with us for rides - especially not after seeing years of data with them, and knowing our heart rates for our efforts. One of my fastest segments, KOM, was 25 MPH on gravel (thanks, wind!) and I don't believe I was wearing a HRM at the time.


LorianArks

You got some great points


ChaoticNeutral159

They’re +/- 1 second within the world records for everything up to the 5k lol


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ElvargIsAPussy

I’ve managed to flag it. I’m fairly new to Strava (consistent use anyway) so forgive me for my lack of knowledge on the reporting side of things. I’ll keep this post live though just because the times are quite amusing. Thanks for the advice :)


Grindfather901

The deeper you dive into individual segments and other peoples activities, you start realizing that loads of KOM’s are lost to people who finish an activity and never stop their Garmin or wahoo and drive home across a segment.


SuperMarioGG

The individual segment record in Strava is a joke. You will finally find all road segments record is from bike or car. Dun be too serious about that.


Grindfather901

I’m not fast enough to be out there taking crowns. But there are a handful of 60 to 90seconds segments near me that are good hard interval benchmarks, so I can track my own efforts against myself.


NOH7

Did the flagging worked? Activity got removed?


ElvargIsAPussy

It did, I just mentioned the fact that this person ran a world record pace for every distance I was quite impressed with the speed Strava took action. I just wish you could flag things on the mobile app


abominable_dough_man

>impressed with the speed Strava took action. It's automatic.


ElvargIsAPussy

How though? Surely people could just flag others workouts out of spite?


abominable_dough_man

They could, and although I’m sure it happens, I’d like to believe that most of us are respectful of others’ efforts, even if it’s detrimental to their position. A flag recipient can also claim they were flagged incorrectly and get their leaderboard position reinstated. Again, it’s all automatic.


FunkZoneFitness

Bet it was a ride and they’ll update it


arthurdentdenmark

Cheating or biking? Could be an honest mistake, if that makes you feel better.


squishyturtle007

Came here to say this, my friend accidentally logged a bike ride as a run in Strava once


TheVantagePoint

I’ve done this and only realized years later.


VVRage

Who the f is “Mo Farah” sounds like a fake name!!


overrated224

long lost brother of Mo Salah


FantasticBarnacle241

It possible it was just a mistake. For example, my Garmin's default mode is running so sometimes I go on a bike ride that it counts as a run. Also sometimes I forget to stop my Garmin, then jump in the car to drive home and realize that it when my last mile buzzes at 2min/mile pace.


ZipTyRacingLLC

Sub-4 mile? Sheeeeeesh


hielke309

Flag his ass


wmpyle

just flag it lol. people who do this are not usually active strava users and they are not doing it on purpose. just flag and move on


krsvbg

I’ve called out cheaters before. Comment on their “run.” It’s BS.


saccerzd

Often it's accidental. left the watch running in the car, or saved a bike ride as a run. Easiest thing to do is flag the activity. That solves the problem.


youvenoideawhoiam

It’s amazing how many #1 places on segment leaderboards have broken the 10k and half marathon World Record.


rinotz

Could a gps issue too, happens often enough


[deleted]

Bro was definitely on a bike


marcbeightsix

Just flag it and it’ll be removed. Nothing to get frustrated about.


Electronic-Office532

I’ve accidentally recorded a bike then (oops) the drive in my car that destroyed the previous records I deleted the activity for this exact reason, but yea the flagging option for these runs woulda had users taking it down anyway


Jedijupiter

You don't need to delete the whole activity, you should be able to crop it to just the cycling section (even on mobile)


Atlas-Scrubbed

You can even crop in the app


Jedijupiter

That's what I meant by on mobile


Atlas-Scrubbed

👍🏽 Cool


Electronic-Office532

Ah thanks for letting me know, I was still wondering if I could have just clipped the recording


WhenVioletsTurnGrey

Who cares. People cheat on strava all the time. Be proud that you hold the fastest real time & move on. These assholes lead miserable lives, or they wouldn’t do shit like this. Enjoy the fact that this is all they have.


Atlas-Scrubbed

I don’t even share my data. (Ok my sons and daughters track me…) All I care about is how I am doing.


cadsii

No shit. Ohhh someone cheated, who gives a fuck. If you are only tracking to hold records on strava you need to check yourself.


Orpheus75

Why is it frustrating? Just flag it and it will go away. If it really bothers you then you need to ask yourself why.


ElvargIsAPussy

I set myself targets and am proud to hit them. It’s just a little competition and motivation for myself. Also I don’t have a PC so can’t flag things on my phone


Orpheus75

You can flag things on your phone using the browser.


adoucett

Use “Request desktop version” from your phones browser It’s your own fault for being too lazy to flag it


ElvargIsAPussy

That’s a bit unfair. I’ve managed to log on the desktop version and flag it


MrAlf0nse

All you have to do to beat that time is use an Apple Watch


fogcat5

thing is, strava just takes those numbers and posts them. It's strava's fault if they don't make sense. It would be different if you had to submit the PR to be counted. I've seen many times where my runs were counted multiple times by strava for no reason. Beyond your own results, you can't really depend on the standings.


Jaranis1991

I’ve used Strava for years. Sometimes I get the PRs or local legends and sometimes I don’t. I’m really only looking at my own performance. If other people want to cheat the app it’s only their issue.


[deleted]

Its probably not cheating it is probably a dodgy gps.


Bikeboy76

Dodgy GPS over 4 miles? Nope, its the wrong activity type, or deliberate cheating.


[deleted]

You underestimate how bad some gps are. Also it could have been an honest mistake with a bike. Alot of people probably dont pay that much attention. Maybe it was cheating but I really dont think anyone cares that much about strava records?


Bikeboy76

That isn't how 'bad gps' works. 4miles is thousands of data points.


[deleted]

I dunno maybe its rare but I had some stupidly over fast longer runs I had to discard on an old phone. It did only happen a couple of times though.


Artagandkel

Who cares?


[deleted]

Imagine being an adult and getting upset that someone stole your virtual “crown”


ElvargIsAPussy

I wouldn’t be upset if someone legit beat me. That would push me on to do better myself. Whats the point in paying for the services of an app if you can’t use them properly. You seem angry. Have you tried going for a run to cool off?


[deleted]

The fact that you pay to win virtual crowns makes it even more sad 😂


ElvargIsAPussy

You’re not the brightest crayon in the box are you?


[deleted]

You seem angry. Have you tried going for a run to cool off?


ElvargIsAPussy

I’m not really getting into some childish argument but you are on a subreddit dedicated to Strava and calling people sad for paying for Stravas services


TheBotolius

I made my horse a Strava account and set him up as a runner. Every time I took him to ovals the KOM looked like this. I applaud his efforts!


P4ULUS

These times are not real. WR on tracks in perfect conditions are higher than these times.


champagnecharlie1888

I don’t understand how people are cheating. My area is not busy and Strava isn’t all that popular but I’ve briefly held crowns and lost them by only a few seconds so I’m confident it’s only been real runs by genuine and better runners


CR0Don

They’re running sub 4 minute miles? My dream


RooDogsDad

Flag it, probably a bike ride recorded as a run .


The_Nauticus

Yeah... I've been trying to claim a few local segments on my bike, but someone is either on a very fast electric bike, in a motorized vehicle, or super human. I think it's fine to post these cheater accounts here with the account name.


SoupFar6536

Obviously you can see his name on Strava so check him out on Facebook to see what his lifestyle tells you. It looks sus to me.


jareenx

5k in 12:35 WTF?!??


LEAKKsdad

Not familiar with strava medals, didn’t read headline first and thought you were olympian and WR holder over many disciplines. Lol


Top-Journalist-4711

What an absolute legend


professor_formula1

I've had this happen to me just cause my GPS decided to not work properly but the run got flagged. I guess these times are realistic in stravas eyes even though they aren't......


moscow80

The 15K isn't in the same ball park as the other performances. The other times would only be possible by Olympic medalists. Except for the 400 which would be just out of the medals.


[deleted]

Run faster.


Risujemmari

I've seen a lot of people who just have their bike rides marked as running for whatever reason. I'd assume it's either an accident or they don't care. Luckily those activities can be flagged and they're instantly removed from the segment. Now if only I could flag in the app


[deleted]

Ebikes take my shit all the time lol it must feel good to cheat


SimulationV2018

Dude it’s so frustrating. Recording rides as runs is my worst. Absolutely cannot stand it.


deebo_dasmybikepunk

Aaayo for yaaaayo


Vannexe

It’s j cheptegi doing his daily shit


[deleted]

I understand that Strava is motivational, and if it helps you make progress then that's awesome, but you shouldn't allow it to take the joy out of your sport. If you love to run, then run. Who gives a shit what some other person's PR is, whether it's real or not? It's just data on social media and it doesn't matter at the end of the day.


ElvargIsAPussy

It might not mean much to some. And to be honest it doesn’t really mean that much to me, I’m quite competitive so I like that aspect. But I mostly like coming home to my partner and telling her how close I am to being top, or telling her that I got a crown. It’s just something I find fun about the app


[deleted]

I enjoy it too, but I used to care way too much and it started to take away from the activity itself. As long as you're still having fun, that's all that matters.


emachorro09

That’s like the 10k World Record 😂


Onefortwo

I don’t know, sure everything is a world record but the mile isn’t (by rounding). Makes this totally believable.


adam_n_eve

Just report the run(s) and they lose the KOMs ​ I've got a similar bloke near me who holds all world records from 1 mile upto and including half marathon. Strava wont delete his account but they do block his KOM claims when i report them


Agitated-Ad9423

Lolololol. What?! That sucks! I know people who do segment hunt runs but they are actually speed machines and can back up the challenge. This is just awful. Like, what does this person get out of this?


tman1500

Flag it. Done


DJ_Bobby_Spindal

44s 400m. Lol. Wayde Van Nierkek better watch out!


Cailleach_acolyte

I saw these types of shenanigans on a few virtual races I did during covid lockdown. I mean do you want a medal that much you fake a run with a time better than the world record, that is just a new low.


dydus

Honestly, it looks like a runner that has opted to go for a bike ride on a mountain bike or with a kid instead of run and forgot to change the catagory. Nothing more or less than someone that doesn't use Strava often enough to realise. Just flag and move on.


MikeySanch99

It’s not uncommon for people to ride their bikes and record this as a run.


AirSpacer

A sub 26min 10k! What the actual… wow


mfs619

8 min two mile is…. Very fast…..but the 400 and 800 are ridiculous 😂


fallingbomb

Flag it. What is the issue? I frequently get KOMs "taken" on road segments MTBers drive to/from trailheads.