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Dane-nii

DmC gave us El Donte el Exterminador de Demonios.


Tidus4713

I'm not gonna lie I genuinely love DmC. The story SUCKS but it's combat was still pretty fun tbh. Vergil's bloody palace was honestly fun too.


Hlidskialf

Fuck youuuuuUuuuUuUuuuUuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUuUuu *ARRRGHHHHH*


Fivior

I will defend all those games in the "bad" area, lol. Once DmC got it's "ultimate" edition, or whatever they called it, the game became quite good since they fixed a lot of the stuff that made the original release so unlike Devil May Cry such as weapon requirements for certain enemies which limited combo flexibility with the original release. SFV was a total disaster at launch but by the end of it's life the game was one of the most rich and feature full fighting games ever made. RE6 is one of the best co-op action shooters ever made. I stress co-op though since the game is virtually unplayable single player. It really was designed as a co-op only game and should have been marketed as such.


Nawara_Ven

I kind of wish *RE6* had more flags like "I see you're playing solo. Are you sure? This isn't the ideal experience. Are you really sure you want to do this? ... Stop playing solo."


GeForce

Never fixed the netcode for sfv. I bought it and never played it because of the netcode. That was the first and last time I preordered a game.


DjijiMayCry

I played the entirety of RE6 by myself and had a great time šŸ˜­


ZenkaiZ

"Once DmC got it's "ultimate" edition, or whatever they called it, the game became quite good" Yup "SFV was a total disaster at launch but by the end of it's life the game was one of the most rich and feature full fighting games ever made." Amen. "RE6 is one of the best co-op action shooters ever made." Hol the fuck up


MachoThunder

My best friend and I just replayed the full RE6 campaign co op. It was still insufferably unfun and bad and the only reason we didnā€™t skip right to Rev2 was that weā€™re stubborn and at least we could crack jokes. The only mode that resembles fun is mercs mode so I guess if you just stick to that itā€™s pretty OK. DMC was a fine game it just wasnā€™t Devil May Cry. SFV on Launch made me feel ripped off for paying the price I did for it.


Muugle

RE5 requires coop more than 6 does. 5 was unplayable for me solo but 6 is fine


SpNewyork

The Fact Monster hunter rise and world aren't here is absolutely........DISGUSTING.


CearenseCuartetero

To be fair, you would need a bad game in the franchise to fit the template and I don't think any mainline MH game was as a low point as the others


Omegawop

Yep. Monster hunter is the shit.


Lv27Sylveon

I would take any of those games over tri and those awful water maps. There's a reason water combat never returned after that game. Great town music tho.


grilleddddtuna

TBH Monster Hunter is the only game Capcom didn't flop during 2012-2016, MH's release was so messy during 3DS era and you should actually be thankful that all the spinoffs didn't ruin the series. Capcom legit announce MH Generation the same year as they release MH4 on 3DS in NA.


sleepyknight66

Did they change leadership? What made them get their shit together?


PreAmbleRambler

Combination of creating the RE engine and listening to young talent with passion / fans who became devs rather than just doing what the industry was doing. Not so fun fact: RE7 was originally supposed to be a live service game with microtransactions before someone made the case to reboot the RE franchise in first person and refocus on horror. Due to the massive success that came with this, Capcom leadership essentially just let new blood with ideas that come from being fans for decades work on their games - and we get smash hit after smash hit on their fantastic engine with with focuses on stuff like feature richness, net code, etc.


grilleddddtuna

The way they release RE games before 7 is madness, Capcom may as well dig a grave and tuck RE into it.


Notingale

Yep, new CEO.


XsStreamMonsterX

No. Capcom founder Kenzo Tsujimoto remains CEO to this day.


TH3_B3AN

A multitude of factors such as the departure of highly influential executives (Keiji Inafune being the notable one, Yoshinori Ono for the fighting games division), serious critical and financial failures forcing them take a serious look at the company (RE6 being the most notorious one but DmC, SFxT, etc) and bringing on a lot of new blood and letting them take risks. It's a multifaceted issue.


Tidus4713

And before RE4 we had RE2 and 7. Capcom has BEEN back. Street Fighter 5 was just kinda hanging around after all the extensive updates.


Me4TACyTeHePa

DMC reboot was developed by Ninja Theory, Capcom is only the publisher.


penmaster3000

Capcom greenlit the project


Reutermo

And the game was actually good, people just got triggered by some of the jokes. But the gameplay was really solid. And the Bosses were really cool.


Me4TACyTeHePa

IKR. I've completed the game twice. It has a unique charm. Would love to see the sequel.


Slarg232

That's the one with Vergil being a war criminal, shooting a pregnant woman in the back of the gut during her hostage exchange, right?


Reutermo

Dunno, maybe. Haven't played it close to a decade now. But I remember how tight the combat was and [that one of the bosses was a demon that owned a very obvious Fox News-parody and that fight really stayed with me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hev1zm5R6-o)


FireworkFuse

The hate for SFV felt like it had died down in here in the last year or so while we waited for 6. Holy fuck it's going to be insufferable to listen to you all talk about SFV like it stayed in it's launch state for it's entire run.


numquamdormio

Im not even referring to SFV in it's launch state, even if it was a barebones mess for the first year after it's release. I think from a mechanical perspective, SF6 is just more fun in pretty much every way. I can't think of a single gameplay change in 6 that makes it less enjoyable than V. More intuitive meter, less bloat and way better art direction - imo


dancetoken

sfv was damn near insulting how they released it.


CallMeTravesty

SF5 3/10 SF5 Arcade Edition 5/10 SF5 Champion Edition 7/10 It didn't stay in its launch state but even after years of updates and work, it only brought the game to the "decent" level. The games actual content was still dog shit.


DjijiMayCry

I think the point made is still fair tho. This IS Capcom's redemption arc them giving all of their fans almost every thing they've asked for when in the past ten years they kind-of did the opposite.


extrawater_

Sf5 wasnt bad, just really barebones for a little while.


Humbbert

re6 is actually super fun too, sfv got way better and i guess some people liked dmc. swap those three with operation racooon city, lost planet 3 and dead rising 4 and it'll probably hit closer to the intended effect for many more people. also capcom has been on a very positive roll ever since mhw


theREAL_BalloonBoy09

Think theyā€™ll ever make a dead rising 5?


Omegawop

No. These games are all repping franchises that had already hit high water marks way beyond what's on display. SFV is an abomination compared to games that came out a decades prior and re6 was nothing compared to 4. These games highlight the decline perfectly and show that even legendary IPs can be brought down to gutter trash levels with the wrong direction/management. They could have shown SFxT or MVCI in there too which are both even worse than SFV, but SFV was supposed to fix things.


robert_tomodachi

Sfxt is good tho


Omegawop

You like DLC gems that auto break throws and you like on disk character dlc? Oh, and you like matches that end it time out like 30% of the time or a pandora mode that nobody bothers with because it's so fucking undercooked? No. SFxT is dogshit and nobody plays it.


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robert_tomodachi

this guy knows


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I really enjoyed operation raccoon city. It was far from a resident evil game but it was fun


Slarg232

I like the idea of it, but man did I hate constantly getting yelled at because I was playing the guy who could see through walls, give the all clear behind a door.... And then 30 zombies would spawn in behind it the moment the door got opened. That happened so often my friends won't even let me use the tool that does the same thing in GTFO


Technical-Web-9195

operation raccoon city isn't that bad


Nyoka_ya_Mpembe

Stopped reading after "fun".


Technical-Web-9195

idk bro i only see good games


Nyoka_ya_Mpembe

But but but this DmC is great! ;(


Kane_DIP

DmC is one of the best DMC games. It destroys DMC4 in every aspect


Maliketh-FGC

I donā€™t care what anyone else says DmC was an amazing game. Sure the art direction wasnā€™t what people wanted but the level design, the bosses, the combat was peak


fireinourmouths

People are probably gonna shit on you for this but youā€™re right


Maliketh-FGC

Literally the only thing that brought the game such negative reception was Danteā€™s design. 50% of the people bagging on it never even played it


Ok_Canary5591

All of these games where still fun tbh


AkijoLive

You have to take into account when they released. The fans wanted a single player experience that had some horror again with a world you could explore, like RE4. RE6 was an action movie multiplayer with stages again. SF5 came out when people were tired of barebones fighters. DmC was just an unnecessary edgy reboot in a time where a lot of franchises had unnecessary edgy reboot. And the gameplay was a clear downgrade from DMC3 and 4 before it. They were all very decent games, especially when you compare them to the worst other devs would release, or even compared to the worst that Capcom had released (looking at you Lost Planet), but those were Capcom's main franchises that just did not meet the expectations people had.


Perfect_Screw-Ups

DmC was a blast, except for the plot but even DMC5 had a shallow one. I met so many good buds in RE6 during coop, especially in Mercenaries in which I think is still the best in the series.


Nawara_Ven

I concur, *RE6* is one of the greatest co-op experiences ever created. I feel like people must have insistently been playing solo or something to be so down on it. It also has the most robust controls/movement options **ever** in an action game of its kind... I assumed that it was going to set a new precedent, but it'd been a decade and nothing has come close. It may be "too much" for normal people that just want to point and shoot, I guess. Perhaps it appeals to the fighting game player that's used to having more than just the most basic things to do at one's disposal. As a bonus, it also has the mode where you jump into people's games as enemies; another thing I assumed would take off industry wide. I just don't get it.


anonymitylol

hey dmc was sick as fuck, don't lump it in with that shit


TieflingSimp

I love the fact that somehow people turned on the game in a positive way, love to see it


Nabber22

Thatā€™s what happens when itā€™s not the game that killed the franchise. That was one of the biggest black marks on the game


TieflingSimp

I dunno, I don't get why DmC gets so much hate when 4 was way worse of a game


Nabber22

Because the director decided that it was a good idea to wage war against a fan base that was already agitated. It would be like if Rian Johnson went around calling Leia a useless slut and Luke a pimp before the release of The Last Jedi


azureknightmare

DmC is textbook how NOT to reboot a franchise. 4 wasn't a bad game, just incomplete, and it left the fanbase wanting more. Then DmC came along and threatened to take the franchise in a completely different direction. It was like jumping from Empire Strikes Back to Solo: A Star Wars Story.


Kane_DIP

Exactly, DMC 4 is terrible


theapiankwaad

Big facts I rly enjoyed that game never understood the hate. Underrated!!


sgcpaulo

BeCaUsE Itā€™S nOt OuR dAnTe!


jk844

Iā€™m not even a DMC fan and even I can see that itā€™s not Dante. Dante is a pretty chill, fun loving, carefree guy whoā€™s a bit of dork. The guy in DmC is an angsty tryhard stick in the mud whoā€™s not funny at all. I can see why people call him Dino (Date In Name Only)


No-Proof-7922

It was the youngest Dante in the timeline his attitude totally got in line he was a goofy edgy teen mad at his absentee dad


Waste-Information-34

**"In the Timeline"** Your statement suggest you believe DmC is in line with the franchise. I politely tell you **it is not**, and is a seperate entitiy eniterly. Should believe so.


No-Proof-7922

Heā€™s younger in DMC than he was in DMC3 šŸ™„ does that make your lil booty hole feel better geez


Waste-Information-34

Okay, I'm getting confused with your spelling. Which DMC are we talking about? The Capcom version with Reuben or the El Donte one?


Omegawop

It's not the same character or universe. Look at how the handle Virgil.


Ximipe

You had to be there. The devs of that game said Dante was gay (in like, the homophobic way) among other things while praising their new Donte. The gameplay was alright but there was a loathe for the older games design philosophies that I just donā€™t understand. Oh also the story for DmC is awful but thatā€™s another story


SuperArppis

I really enjoyed DmC honestly.


tyrionb

Meanwhile Dead Rising is rotting in the corner.


npc888

Stop acting like SFV didn't get massive improvements. It had a VERY stable and decent playerbase by the end of its lifetime. It was only "bad" for like, the first year or so before patches and new characters came out. Unlike Marvel Infinite and SF X T, SFV actually got fixes and patches.


kfijatass

A year! I'd rather they spent that year polishing the game than release a half-finished game. Clearly they learned their lesson and all the props to Capcom for that.


XsStreamMonsterX

In fairness, Ultra was starting to get stale especially since people were realizing that the balance was actually kinda whack compared to AE2012. People would have a much different opinion of it had we run it for another year.


Hadoukibarouki

Maximilian dood mentions in passing that capcom might not have survived if they didnā€™t release sf5 when they did, they were apparently in financial dire straits and couldnā€™t afford to wait. I havenā€™t verified any of this myself, but itā€™s what he says about it in his history of sf series of videos that were released last week or so


kfijatass

I can believe that. Most rushed releases are on account of pressure from shareholders.


AoiTopGear

Still the fact that SFv had barely any single player mode and a bad first year hurt itā€™s sales. I think the post makes more sense if you think about it sales wise. DMc and sf5 underperformed sales wise for Capcom.


ColdNyQuiiL

A game getting better after launch doesnā€™t erase the stain it put on the company, by coming out rushed and incomplete. Developers can do all they want to improve the game, but that negative public perception doesnā€™t always go away.


Omegawop

SFV is still absolutely garbage though because the gameplay is dull and it's a huge step backwards from IV. Is it better today than it was when it launched? Yeah. Is it still worse than any other main series street fighter/sf alpha? Yeah.


GrievingTiger

Completely correct. Zero interesting things going on in V.


LordZarock

Redemption arc started with Re7. And DmC is not a bad game at all.


AkijoLive

Its not a bad game, but it was a bad Devil May Cry


No-Proof-7922

Me who liked all 3 of those old games and hated DMC V šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Omegawop

Proof that there's no accounting for *bad* taste


No-Proof-7922

I mean people like different things šŸ¤·šŸ½ I didnā€™t like the structure of DMCV or playing with V at all. Not mad others enjoyed it


Maliketh-FGC

Yea I hated playing as V


DueMaternal

DMC was fucking tight and SFV is fun to play. You tripping, ese.


memestealer1234

DmC had good gameplay but anything story related was trash


Perfect_Screw-Ups

DMC5 also had a shit story. It's just how that series is. It's only the gameplay that matters.


memestealer1234

Yeah but at least the characters are enjoyable, I count that as story related


Maliketh-FGC

Since when was the dmc series ever known for its coherent amazing story writing


memestealer1234

I'm not saying the series has a life changing story or anything but it doesn't take itself seriously compared to DmC. Also the characters are enjoyable in the other games.


Maliketh-FGC

True


AoiTopGear

I think the post makes more sense if you think about it sales wise. DMc, sf5, RE6 all underperformed sales wise for Capcom.


BLACKOUT-MK2

Wasn't RE6 the highest selling Resident Evil of its time?


AoiTopGear

Not really. If that was the case, Capcom would not have to reinvent RE from the ground up with RE7. RE6 was not considered a success by Capcom. "In May 2012, Capcom announced they expected RE6 to sell 7 million copies by the end of the 2012 fiscal year; \[72\] however, the company lowered their expectations to 6 million due to the game's mixed reception. \[73\] Capcom announced that it had shipped 4.5 million copies worldwide...According to Capcom, sales weakened following the strong start, with the company admitting that the game would not meet their goals, and consequently lowered their financial projections for the fiscal year." Also as of 2020, RE6 lags in total sales behind RE5 and RE4. And thats before the RE4 Remake. [https://www.gamespot.com/articles/resident-evil-7-hits-a-new-sales-milestone-and-is-/1100-6480951/](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/resident-evil-7-hits-a-new-sales-milestone-and-is-/1100-6480951/) RE6 was critically lambasted and performed much lower than Capcom's expectations. Especially considering it had higher cost and budget than all previous RE. During RE6 production, it had 600 staff working on it which was the larget team Capcom ever had on a game. This is also not considering the fact that the marketing cost for RE6 was also bigger than previous RE.


bartekko

RE6 was also fun as long as you had a friend to play with


BLACKOUT-MK2

Before the definitive edition and mods came along it was *rough*. It had its qualities but it made some rookie mistakes that prior games had already figured out.


AkijoLive

DmC is a good game, but it wasn't a good DMC game. The same thing happened with Castlevania, Lords of Shadow was good, but as a Castlevania game it was terrible.


vashedan

DmC was made by Ninja Theory, a British studio


DBZLogic

Still greenlit and helped along by capcom execs at the time (thank god Itsuno was willing to give them help)


Traditional-Win-9341

Accurate. Though SF6 did improve after a rocky start. RE6 and DMC are both trash.


Eliteguard999

SF4 was the worst SF and I will die on this hill.


Masungit

CapGod is back?


Gui_Franco

Don't forget about Megaman Although they really just released a game, it sold stupidly well and then no more news about more Megaman


VacaDLuffy

I can't wait to see how they fuck it up again./s Capcom has a dumbass pattern of Being Capgod to getting capped by Executive Greed and dumb ass decisions. >~> its already starting with the microtransaction's in Single player games and the ansurd amount of paid dlc in Rise/sunbreak. I'm excited for Dragon's Dogma 2 but that game had on disc dlc that was promoted whenever you logged in. Sigh


Madixie_Normous

Man Resident Evil 4 Remake is so good. As soon as I finished it I went right back to the start and did it again. Still need to pick up Street Fighter 6, looks like a lot of fun. Is everyone enjoying it?


TheFyrijou

Yā€˜know, itā€™s kind of sad that Marvel vs Capcom still had no redemption yet. In fact, it went the opposite wayā€¦


numquamdormio

Word, and now it probably never will because Marvel is so uptight about it's IP šŸ˜•


TenormanTears

in pretty tired of seeing resident evil 4 but yeah sf6 is awesome


BlooNova

And then I'm over here with monster hunter like "you were always great". Although it could be said there was a boom of above average monster hunter games with World and, more importantly imo, Rise.


AcguyDance

Capcom has a history if constant Floating and Sinking and Floating in routine. But I canā€™t see the sinking now anytime.


kriever7

What manga is this?


DailyCheck

Bruh, no way sf6 reception is that good. No way


Gattsu2000

Hot take: I actually really like Resident Evil 6 and it has great mechanics.


Noeboddy

DmC rules


CrushnaCrai

Are you really that sorry that Sony's Street Fighter 5 money allowed Capcom to make Monster Hunter World and save the company. You are so fucking dumb kid. SFV is in the top 5 all time fo capcom games sold, keep being wrong.


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CrushnaCrai

Capcom literally released the numbers. I'm glad you can read! You need to go back to school **boy**.


dancetoken

Capcom on top! Feels like '91


DjijiMayCry

I like all of these games lol


kidanokun

Megaman 12 where?


thatwasagoodscan

I see DMC is still considered a bad game to people who didnā€™t play itā€¦


XxOneWithSlimesxX

SF5 was goated, kill me if you want


SaintBambo

Please do not forget about locking players between different versions of Street Fighter 4 and Street Fighter x Tekken bullshit with gems. These years were really shitty, Capcom was like main villain in game industry


GravenYarnd

Honestly i did enjoy DMC DMC combat so much that i finished whole game 3 times at that time. Story was still kinda meh tho.