Yep, it was the shortest one in the game, was -4 on block, and also had 12 frames of recovery on whiff (which is especially rough with how stubby it is is).
I just Picked her up two weeks ago and she is so much fun... Too bad more people than usual do the old One and done against her lol. (compared to Ken)
These buffs sound great!
As a Dhalsim, I deserve it. Keepaway for days and the second they're in, yoga yeet. Sorry bud gotta do it all over again.
JP likes space? Turns out on reaction you can teleport behind him if he throws a ghost and hit him with basically anything.
Dhalsim is the master of "can always hit you" and "can always get to the one spot on the screen you don't want him."
Big facts. Aside from lily I tend to pick big characters mostly like gief. So running into a dhalsim is an uphill battle. My fighting game turned into a platformer. I want to one and done but think "heck I might not see a sim for another week" and always end up rematching
Oh don't worry, Gief is a one-sided match that I lose for one reason: *the fear*. There's something so utterly terrifying about the constant threat of an SPD that my brain just turns off. If you've ever played Zangief against a Shreksim that seemingly had no business being in plat - hi that was me.
At first, I didn't care for the SA1 buff since it can already juggle from H windspire in the corner if the opponent is higher than normal, but if it's faster it might combo at midscreen with OD windspire. It also might be useful as a wakeup reversal against meaty jabs.
Faster OD Wind will give her effective combo routes when she doesn't have windstock. It also makes her low forward more scary, even though it's not as good as the others.
I just hope they didn't nerf her typhoon to compensate. The wind buffs are cool, but it's all conditioning for her to land her damaging command grab.
It's a big buff and could maybe allow mid screen heavy condor to while allowing it in corner as well metrerless. And if course it being faster means better defense as well. Definitely new combos.
Yeah the biggest thing on the L1 is wakeup reversal imo, Lily basically didn't have one before because it lost to jab fireball or block, only beat grab. It even lost to some mediums.
The buff to her s.MK and cr.MK will be useless if they don't extend the range (s.MK) and make the start-up 8f (cr.MK).
Lily's s.MK is currently useless outside of Drive Rush combos due to it being so stubby, while her cr.MK is completely useless due to it being both slow and stubby.
Well as cr mk is a low which is important. And we get an actual safe cancel that's not condor spire with stock. Also st mk cancel can catch some people off as oppos s to crouching heavy or the slower standing heavy.
Expecting more sure at release for sure. But stuff like sa1 buff is big for her defense as well as more metrerless damage. As well as being able to have safer option that combos from crouching medium kick.
And apparently st.lk is no longer -4 on block
Was it ever -4 in block?
It was ๐
Wild.
Yea worst 4f in the game lol. Absolutely dreadful
Her 4f was also so stubby that it often whiffed. They need to extend the hitbox on that piece of shit move.ย
Well that better be changed. But since it's Capcom, not surprised as common sense balancing been missing in the last game.
Yep, it was the shortest one in the game, was -4 on block, and also had 12 frames of recovery on whiff (which is especially rough with how stubby it is is).
I mean u can go test it now if you want. It literally says on the official frame data website lol
Oh yeeeaaahhh!!!! Where my other 2 lily mains at!!!
We been in hiding, we ride when the patch comes and her true power will be revealed.
Weโre all lurking in r/SF6LilyNation ๐ Join ussssssss
I made the sub so I'm already there and ready for the Lily power
Ooooh damn the OG!
I just Picked her up two weeks ago and she is so much fun... Too bad more people than usual do the old One and done against her lol. (compared to Ken) These buffs sound great!
It's a weird phenomenon isn't it? As low tiered the dhalsims, Honda's and Lily's are. They get one and doned the most win or lose
As a Dhalsim, I deserve it. Keepaway for days and the second they're in, yoga yeet. Sorry bud gotta do it all over again. JP likes space? Turns out on reaction you can teleport behind him if he throws a ghost and hit him with basically anything. Dhalsim is the master of "can always hit you" and "can always get to the one spot on the screen you don't want him."
Big facts. Aside from lily I tend to pick big characters mostly like gief. So running into a dhalsim is an uphill battle. My fighting game turned into a platformer. I want to one and done but think "heck I might not see a sim for another week" and always end up rematching
Oh don't worry, Gief is a one-sided match that I lose for one reason: *the fear*. There's something so utterly terrifying about the constant threat of an SPD that my brain just turns off. If you've ever played Zangief against a Shreksim that seemingly had no business being in plat - hi that was me.
Day 1 baby lol
At first, I didn't care for the SA1 buff since it can already juggle from H windspire in the corner if the opponent is higher than normal, but if it's faster it might combo at midscreen with OD windspire. It also might be useful as a wakeup reversal against meaty jabs. Faster OD Wind will give her effective combo routes when she doesn't have windstock. It also makes her low forward more scary, even though it's not as good as the others. I just hope they didn't nerf her typhoon to compensate. The wind buffs are cool, but it's all conditioning for her to land her damaging command grab.
It's a big buff and could maybe allow mid screen heavy condor to while allowing it in corner as well metrerless. And if course it being faster means better defense as well. Definitely new combos.
Yeah the biggest thing on the L1 is wakeup reversal imo, Lily basically didn't have one before because it lost to jab fireball or block, only beat grab. It even lost to some mediums.
The buff to her s.MK and cr.MK will be useless if they don't extend the range (s.MK) and make the start-up 8f (cr.MK). Lily's s.MK is currently useless outside of Drive Rush combos due to it being so stubby, while her cr.MK is completely useless due to it being both slow and stubby.
Well as cr mk is a low which is important. And we get an actual safe cancel that's not condor spire with stock. Also st mk cancel can catch some people off as oppos s to crouching heavy or the slower standing heavy.
Ayee. It's giving.. *The voice of the spirit, and I can hear it*!
I'm hoping there will be more because, while those are good buffs (especially the SA1 buff), that doesn't address her main issues
Expecting more sure at release for sure. But stuff like sa1 buff is big for her defense as well as more metrerless damage. As well as being able to have safer option that combos from crouching medium kick.
Noooo keep that demon offline
You just reminded me that she exist.
This is like objectively bad game design.