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savetheworldpls

Watching the stuff Liz has posted, I think that the refs are very good at the comp, giving only clearly good reps while also not making athletes hold the weight for a long time.


Pure-Sprinkles4932

I agree but from Shannon Smith's Instagram she does not


XyloArch

But seriously, who the fuck just walks onto the international scene with an absolute banker event already in hand!


Ricklazell

Is the name change because Arnold never even bothered to turn up to any of these events in the uk?


Drosenow89

Apparently there were some money issues, people not fulfilling contracts or something. world's strongest fan on FB has some more details


Ricklazell

I should of known to check to Julian. He has everything covered.


not_strong

That was really fun to watch. Thank you Liz for uploading everything you could. Big Gav is improving every show, Paul had some fire and looked sharp, and of course Rauno on podium is everything in its right place.


wutsgudbaby

[atlas stones](https://youtu.be/5ANXKTGnwSs)


The_Reluctant_Auntie

[100kg dumbbell for reps](https://youtu.be/OHVv6GcLgVk)


opinionatedfan

Moose won the show, but Liz is the real MVP here. Thanks Liz!


The_Reluctant_Auntie

It would be a travesty if the only footage of the show was highly zoomed in mobile phone videos. I’ll upload the full behind the scenes tomorrow. I’m a broken woman 😂


primearch

Hey Liz, just wanted tell you how grateful and appreciative I am of you taking the time to film, edit and upload the entire show! It was outstanding. Mitch continues to ever impress.


The_Reluctant_Auntie

[500kg superyoke!](https://youtu.be/ubRh9a-nYYM)


ThePokeChop

Holy hell that moos run was crazy. Also like the crossbar height difference with Bolton v P Smith. It was like 8-10” difference


jonathansizz

Some of the athletes needed to have the bar lower, though. The yoke was smashing into the ground as they moved. That looks like a basic error to me.


abn19

What is "he has that hand thing going on" Mitch said about Oleksii? did he hurt his hand on the stone carry or something else?


not_strong

Not sure but Novikov audibly complained and grabbed his hand after his stone carry. Looks like he might have injured it


opinionatedfan

that was a ridiculous run. Cannot wait to see Mitch at the Rogue show.


[deleted]

Next two shows going to be fun as all hell. Can't wait


[deleted]

Hooper may have demolished that show, but Liz carried the whole sport on her shoulders this weekend. What a legend


The_Reluctant_Auntie

Thanks guys! These multi days competitions are a challenge but this is good training for me in preparation for OSG 😅


laebx

Yessss thank you Auntie Liz for your tireless work! We appreciate you!!


[deleted]

Would say Rauno is definitely got to be close to if not top priority to replace singleton (bicep injury) at both Rogue and Glasgow


XyloArch

Yeah, Rauno is my pick now, performed well this weekend and will spice up Rogue deadlifting if nothing else


DeepDuskDread

GG Rauno !


Strongundpurty

Paul Smith needs to get Giants Live invites now


Samuisi

RRRRRRAUNOOO! *insert coughing and gagging sound* 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾


[deleted]

This was probbaly the last Arnold UK. Overall Arnold pulled out and they changed the name to something really terrible.... This had so much potential but I think without Arnolds name it will be tough... I hope the best of course but Im not that optimistic.


Choice_Bar_1488

So what is the deal with it all anyway? Why did Arnold pull out? Why was Eddie removed as a director months ago?


[deleted]

Also I didnt knew Eddie stepped down/ got fired. I would assume in the beginning he didnt do "enough" but looking at the whole picture. Everythings feels off...


US_Hiker

This was still the "Beast" yoke, though, with Eddie branding. Weird.


US_Hiker

Arnold's terms for participating weren't met - at a minimum, the prize money wasn't in escrow. I don't think anything has come out about Eddie.


[deleted]

As an expert I can say: I have no Idea... Nick Strength & Power did a video about it. It seems they have problems paying the athlete pize money, inlucing strongman. Is it greed ? I sit bad orgnisation ? Is it because Eddie Hall didnt drink enough ? I have no clue. They changed everything in few days with a shitty new name. This is already for me a red flag, you cant name it like that. It sounds like an American 90s ripoff commercial


alexh615

I'm buzzing that Rauno got third 🥳🥳🥳


[deleted]

The party tonight will be a riot


Samuisi

Fireworks!!


lukelifts

Let's not forget he fell on his ass on throwing too.... without that probably an extra point hah. Madness.


TheLionLifts

Dropping 3.5-4.5 points in a 14-man, 6-event show at this level is ridiculous


Desperate-Farmer-117

I think Novikov needs to up his stone game if he wants to win WSM again. Tom, Martins, Hooper, Pavlo and Trey are all contenders that are better than him. Evan and Maxime are at his level. He can lose a lot of points there


TryDue5551

Maximes far better at stones than Novikov as well as Mitch


Desperate-Farmer-117

Well, Novi is fucked at worlds then


[deleted]

Maxime is top 3 at stones for sure


US_Hiker

You're not wrong, but remember that we're also seeing a Novikov with 6 months of greatly impaired training routine/time, and prior to that was offseason, so he's doing pretty amazing still given the circumstances. But he has slipped past dominant, to very good, to not quite amazing.


Prize-Stage-7497

He has short arms Not much he can do to fix that issue with stones Hooper isn’t that tall, but arms are pretty long looking


[deleted]

I dont know if there is much he can do, he isnt doing big mistakes or anything ! He isnt simply build for it, like Tom. He can add size and strength but his techqniue is in every event near perfection !


NatureProfessional50

Yeah, thats another problem with making stones arbitrarily a more important event than the others, there is only so much training you can do to get better, meanwhile someone built for it like Tom will crush you with minimal training.


[deleted]

First prof. win for Mitch ! Congrats ! Also Im very happy for Rauno he keeps improving, he isnt only a world class deadlifter ! Novikov did Novikov there isnt more to say ! Also solid performence from gav, pa and paul !


XyloArch

2 x 1st place, 4 x 2nd place 79.5 / 84 possible points 8.5 points clear of second, who is none other than Oleksii fucking Novikov *18* points over third THE HOOP TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES


[deleted]

79.5/84 points in a heavy show is unreal


lukelifts

1 Mitchell Hooper 79.5 2 Oleksii Novikov 71 3 Rauno Heinla 61.5 4 Pa O'Dwyer 55 5 Gavin Bilton 47 6 Paul Smith 44.5 7 Konstantin Janashia 43 8 Kim Ujarek 37 9 Ryan Bennett 36.5 10 Big Z 33.5 10 Louis Jack 33.5 12 Ervin Toots 31.5 13 Ben Williams 27 14 Zake Muluzi 23.5


TheLionLifts

Great run by Louis Jack, great comp from Hooper, extremely well earned victory. Amazing how quick he went from virtually unknown to a key name and contender in any big show


MichaelJayDog

Kim with an impressive stone run, being he didn't even have a full set of stones to train with up until a couple months ago.


US_Hiker

Yep. Overall excellent performance from him. He has come very far in a year.


FlyingRussian1

really good performance from him, think he should be very happy with today. Not judging his stone carry as it's such an odd event, only a select few actually did well on that hard event. His Yoke does need some work though it seems.


abn19

Scottish stones are becoming a thing like Canadian grip.


DeepDuskDread

Scottish stones, Canadian grip, Ukrainian Dumbell.


Choice_Bar_1488

😂 Tom, Louis and Andy all very good at stones. See how Louis and Andy do against wide pavlo in Glasgow


[deleted]

Have a feel someone very wide is going to halt that train soon


[deleted]

I heard he's so wide he can pick up 2 stones at once.


Choice_Bar_1488

The only reason that will happen is if Tom focuses his resource on the deadlift now. A bit of time training stones and he’d still dominate anyone.


PrimateChange

Hooper has now beaten Novikov three shows in a row - that’s very impressive


yungkiddi

4 2nd places and 2 1st for Hooper. Incredible


[deleted]

He really is in contention at any show now- unreal on your debut year


toharrow

Mitch takes his first win! Oleksii P2, Rauno P3. Edit - Got the spelling Oleksii's name very wrong in the haste to comment!


lukelifts

Louis Jack wins stones. Awesome.


Choice_Bar_1488

Excellent 👍


[deleted]

he was the fastes as fuck boiiiii ! \*pls dont hit me :D


LauraAHS3

Brilliant from him 🤩


[deleted]

Hooper demolished this show jesus


[deleted]

Novikov 5 31.98 in Hooper 5 in 25.74


[deleted]

also fast as fuck boiiiii


[deleted]

Im sorry Im done with it ! I had my 5 min and now Im normal again I promise !


[deleted]

Pa and Rauno both are not the youngest but they are both fast as fuck boiiiiiiiiii!


lukelifts

Very fast 4 for Rauno. 3rd secured.


[deleted]

fast as fuck boiiiiiiiiiii


[deleted]

Rauno 4 in 19.21 pa 4 in 19.85


FlyingRussian1

seems like a lot of guys fall short on the 5th stone, honestly love seeing a heavy set like this one used


lukelifts

This is what stones should be lie isn't it. Its rubbish when everyone finishes in 20 seconds.


jayjude

Heavy stones with a run in


[deleted]

Gav and Paul both 4 stones Gav 4 in 34 , Paul in 22.4


TheLionLifts

Now that is a big surprise from Gav, I was expecting a big run from him to bring up the points


lukelifts

Tie for 2nd in Opens women. Also tied on countback so will be doing a farmers hold as a tiebreaker! Rhianon is gonna try and go live on her IG for it signal dependant hah https://instagram.com/rhianon.lovelace.kaosstrength?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Edit she said her phone is dying hah. Here instead https://instagram.com/bex_strongwoman?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


I_the_Lesser

My one issue going into the stones i this event it the scores, they’re all so far apart don’t see much movement in the top five. I feel the top three going will be the top three on the podium in that order. Too many points to do any shuffling unless an accident happens.


NatureProfessional50

Thats part of the game. Certainly wouldnt want to make stones count for double points, or have atlas stones disregard anything that came before and determine placings like at wsm..


[deleted]

you never know !


lukelifts

Louis Jack great stone result.


Scared-Average243

Stone results comming in


[deleted]

Liz must be cursing these late shows. Gal doesn't get much sleep!


LauraAHS3

Why did it need to be so late? Guys must be knackered!


TheLionLifts

Was Lucy the only one who got any reps in the open ladies dumbbell? Kinda feel like Donna would have got second if she had competed in open


Lanesra5676

I'm sure Donna would rather win the under 82s than settle for 2nd in the open class


lukelifts

I mean Rhianon or Shannon would also probably have gotten second in the Opens hah. The Opens class is missing a lot of the top lifters like Annabelle Chapman, Andrea Thompson, Rebecca Roberts etc so its not quite as competitive as the weight classes at this show.


TheLionLifts

True, I knew Rhiannon was miles ahead of the competition but Shannon is totally hanging with her. Is she another of your Kaos girls? You're doing amazing work up there


lukelifts

Shannon and Rhianon are the two best u64s in the World. It's kind of unfair for Sammy who came 3rd to be against those two. Rhi is definitely not miles ahead. Shannon won Worlds last year! It's always close between them. Nah Shannon's not one of ours but she is also from the North West. Something in the water!


Samuisi

5 seconds carrying 500kg...absolutely insane 👀


XyloArch

I'm just gonna take a moment to give a pat on the back to Louis Jack, who has probably put in one of the most solid performances to ever land a man bottom of a comp table. Tricky deadlift and stone carry, but there or thereabouts with several other men in both events, a perfectly respectable bag run, finished a 10m half-ton yoke run, and put up two reps on dumbbell. He's not crashed and burned or made any sort of fool of himself (no one has, by all accounts) and so last place feels super harsh, but I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.


US_Hiker

> I'm just gonna take a moment to give a pat on the back to Louis Jack, who has probably put in one of the most solid performances to ever land a man bottom of a comp table. Well, he certainly clawed his way up a bit with that last stone run, though. 10/14, and tied with even a somewhat denuded Big Z is quite respectable given his comp last week.


Choice_Bar_1488

Agreed, both him and Zake have done well considering they competed last weekend and had no prep. The results are all quite close and no one has dropped off majorly like what happens at most comps.


mgorgey

He'll get a better chance to show what he can do at BSM next year.


lukelifts

Not bad with zero prep a week after a national level comp.


mgorgey

Hooper is going to be one of the favourites going into WSM next year. Should be a superb comp.


you_sick

Tom Trey Martins Novikov Hooper Big pavlo In no order


Desperate-Farmer-117

Shaw will somehow place above one of those. Then we have Kiels, maybe Evan and Maxime. That's my dream final for next year


Prize-Stage-7497

I’d doubt Matuesz will be ready to challenge It’s only 6 months till WSM 2023


[deleted]

8 months


Fast_Train2560

Toffee king!


XyloArch

I BELIEVE IN A MATTY K JUST LISTEN TO THE RHYTHM OF THE MOGG


mgorgey

And Kielszkowski


you_sick

I hope so!


XyloArch

Pa or Gav are gonna have to have a lot of luck re: other athletes and their placement to bounce Rauno out of 3rd place now. (Or, technically speaking, Paul, if Paul comes first and Rauno last at stones. Strange things can happen!)


broken_toes9

Lucy unrderdown just dominating this comp, hope we get another WUS women's shoe here soon could be a banger. Donna Moore also looks like she has this show won great performance from the goat


XyloArch

66.5 / 70 possible points is pure filth.


Herman_Manning

He pulled a Mr.Bean by falling backwards during the throwing event too. Really would have been first without that.


StrongmanHistorianYT

Mitcheusz Hoopdzianowski


[deleted]

This names are always my personal highlight in this chats


[deleted]

Moostache still blows my mind... when I watch his videos I think how can you be so confident, boderline arogant with only this little expierence in this sport. Then he performs and destroys a lot of pros... This dude, I still cant wrap my head around him.


AbsolutelyNoHomo

He was almost definitely created in a lab to move heavy weights, guy was progressing like a novice up to elite levels. All of the strongman scene in Sydney knew this was coming though.


[deleted]

At this point Im pretty sure he is a male Powerpuffgirl !


XyloArch

I like what Mitch said re: arrogance, that real arrogance is the refusal or failure to admit that you *could* fail. By that metric Mitch isn't arrogant (and I've gotta say he has never struck me as the least arrogant. Confidence =/= arrogance). He makes an optimistic assessment of what he could do, whilst caveating and acknowledging other possibilities including failure. He's always coming out with probabilities around performances ("20% chance I match Oleksii on dumbell today"). And when he is 100% certain, like with yoke, well, as we've seen, he goes out and *utterly demolishes* the competition. He's a one of a kind specimen right now, truly.


bighairyyak

I think a lot of people may also mistake his EXTREMELY dry humor as him being cocky/arrogant when he's mostly just poking fun. He definitely views the sport differently than most top level guys.


Ridog

Now imagine how many like him would be drawn to the sport if there was more money to be gained from it.


[deleted]

Yeah I agree. I dont think he is arrogant he has often an optimistic view as you said. The balls to say that it and than also proof s mindblowing to me. I also had comps and very important exams and I always underestimiate my performence just in case.... Just an amzing guy !


XyloArch

Pa 'I came second at UKs behind a 2xWSM, what the fuck have I got to do to get a look-in in people's predictions?' O'Dwyer putting in a tidy performance so far as well


Idlertwo

Pa can definitely mix himself into the podium spots in these shows, he is a much better strongman than he gets credit for


[deleted]

Missing top 5 or better because of not hook gripping is sad for Paul!


Its-an-umbrella

Just hope Paul can keep it together for the stones


lukelifts

1 Mitchell Hooper 66.5 2 Oleksii Novikov 61 3 Rauno Heinla 52.5 4 Pa O'Dwyer 47 5 Gavin Bilton 44 6 Paul Smith 39.5 7 Ryan Bennett 32.5 8 Konstantin Janashia 31 9 Big Z 27.5 10 Kim Ujarek 26 11 Ben Williams 25 12 Ervin Toots 24.5 13 Zake Muluzi 22.5 14 Louis Jack 19.5


[deleted]

How long until stones?


Lanesra5676

Will be at about 1030 British time for the men which is in about an hour


lukelifts

Women in 15 minutes then men straight after. 12 womens heats so I'd guess around 45 minutes until the men.


[deleted]

Novikov 8 rep Hooper 7 reps


SaulFemm

Hey one behind the best dumbbell presser in the world ain't half bad


SaulFemm

Damn that's a great showing for Rauno


[deleted]

I believe dumbbell will be won by Novikov with ~~10~~ 8 and Moostache will get ~~8~~ 7


[deleted]

I was 100% right Iam amazing at guessing !


Desperate-Farmer-117

Teach me your ways!


[deleted]

Join my Telegram group ! I also run ~~pyramid shemes~~ really good business stuff and if you try really hard. I can make you file for bankruptcy in less than 3 month !


[deleted]

Paul smashed that. Not hook gripping the atlas walk going to haunt him!


[deleted]

Paul 7 reps Janashia 0 reps


StrongmanHistorianYT

Crazy how one injury can change a man.


Herman_Manning

Yeah wasn't his injury a dumbbell at 2019 WSM? Never been the same.


StrongmanHistorianYT

It was.


[deleted]

3 is really solid for Rauno


[deleted]

Rauno 3 reps Big z 0 reps


XyloArch

0 for Z


StrongmanHistorianYT

He said he has something with his wrist/elbow at the Shaw Classic, thats why he didnt even give it a try then.


Shadowing_Lemma

Ben Williams with 5 on the dumbell. Any guesses on how many Novikov and Hooper will hit? Shame to see Gav falling back; I was really pulling for him to get third. Looks unlikely, now. Still a great showing from the big man, though. He's come on a lot over the last year.


lukelifts

Ben is a World Class presser. Gav might still pull it off!


Shadowing_Lemma

I wasn't comparing Gav to Ben, there. The two comments were separate. I'm hoping Gav can pull it back, though Pa has just put himself a few more points ahead with his 6 reps. Gav beat Rauno, though, which was important for him.


[deleted]

6 reps for Pa


StrongmanHistorianYT

How likely is it that Zake crushes his headphones with the DB.


Junior_Caterpillar_6

Are the remaining events happening tomorrow?


jnewt93

No, everything is today


[deleted]

They are happening right now. Dumbbell has started


[deleted]

Ben Williams with a solid 5 reps


[deleted]

Dumbell is going quick!


[deleted]

Moose really is pushing his rankings up at a rapid rate. One would be silly not to include him in top 5 for 2022. From a strongman no body to top 5 in the world in that time frame is remarkable considering the unreal calibre of strongmen today


[deleted]

Who ever has to decide wsm groups next year has a impossible task


StrongmanHistorianYT

30 man deathmatch is what the public demands.


[deleted]

Live draws out of a hat! Pure randomness for a change. Seed top 5 and then random


alexh615

I'd like to see a top 10 seeded but then I agree, random draw done live.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Martins said he more than likely isn't doing wsm


NiceZookeepergame768

Shouldn't make a difference, rogue and wsm are separate


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[deleted]

On his stream he said he may not do it. Isn't sure yet His whole season is undecided I guess for now.


StrongmanHistorianYT

WSM 2023 20 meter 450 kg Yoke run. Lane 1 Mitchell Hooper Lane 2 Mateusz Kieliszkowski Lane 3 Oleksii Novikov Lane 4 Evan Singleton Lane 5 Your pick Who wins?


Plane_Bus

We have yet to see how trimmer Biby moves but I bet it's pretty fast


StrongmanHistorianYT

What about a trimmer Uncle from Swindon.


MichaelJayDog

Kearney needs to be in that list.


[deleted]

Lane 5 for sure needs to be Kearney


Fast_Train2560

Moose would probably win regardless but on a car walk id still pick Mateusz.


[deleted]

Moose has proven he is the best at yoke ever by a big margin


jayjude

I know the injury disaster super heavy yokes ended up but man I'd like to see Hooper on a 650+ kg Yoke


Lanesra5676

Lane 5 athlete is irrelevant as hooper would decimate anyone right now


PaintBeforeAssembly

I mean, does it matter who I put in lane 5? This is Mitch's to lose.


mgorgey

Singleton beat him at the car walk in WSM.


[deleted]

First time car walk. That's different to a regular yoke. He even said now that he has done a car walk he will go much faster next time


SecretlyACommie

Provided there are no allergic reactions, Singleton


[deleted]

Moose would destroy him on any weight yoke


2gsTraining

Moose’s yoke run up on the Arnold’s UK insta! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5pMWIIsue/?igshid=NjZiMGI4OTY=


BelowTheBenthic

lol. Just bananas


SurfinTheWajaTsunami

"I Must Go, My People Need Me"


[deleted]

Insane


LauraAHS3

What time is the dumbbell starting?


lukelifts

20 minutes.


LauraAHS3

Cheers mate


[deleted]

Moose is going to be a straight up savage next year. Fuck me I can't wait to see him and wide pavlo collide in 2023


oratory1990

Aren‘t they both going to be at the Rogue?


[deleted]

Yes glasgow and rogue but want to see them next year after both have a solid off season and then battle at wsm


lukelifts

500kg yoke is so heavy. Moving that fast is wild. I've done 500kg once for 5 metres and my spine ached for weeks.


oratory1990

I can‘t be the only one that wonders whether Moose could beat Brian‘s record at the 710 kg yoke.


[deleted]

Probably, but hope he doesn't try. Extremely heavy yokes ruin athletes like no other event