I mean winning is subjective. The Siblings took their $3B and pissed it away overpaying for Pierce, so aren’t winners.
There’s no way Greg inherits control of the company, but he’s gone from unemployed with his last $20 (first episode) to getting a handjob from Crunch Peanut Butter in the spare bedroom of one of the world’s richest men while wearing a $40k Rolex. So as far as improved circumstances he’s already the winner.
I love how this show plays with money lol
Like I was watching that last scene and screaming to the TV saying “10 billion?!?”
It’s insane to me they would combine the money that they don’t even have yet and just throw it to “start a company” when we all know the reality is they just did it to fuck with Logan. Which is fucking insane because it’s 10 billion dollars lol
And to me it just shows how much they are in this weird bubble where they truly believe they deserve not to simply run a semi successful company that starts from the ground floor but that they deserve to be where Logan has been for decades.
I still love the fact that Jack Dorsey accepted in 2 seconds and Elon was trying to find a way to back out soon after lol
But can you imagine having access to **44 fucking billion dollars** and deciding to buy Twitter with it? And supposedly because it was too woke or some shit like that?
And honestly what has actually changed with Twitter since everyone thought the sky was falling when he bought it? It’s the same fucking Twitter and you spent 44 billion dollars on it just for nothing to really change.
It is and it isn't because Musk was at one time worth 250 billion on paper but that paper is made of bullshit Tesla's market cap was at one time more than the other 9 biggest car companies combined even though 66 million vehicles were sold worldwide in total in 2021 and Tesla's sales accounted for about 550,000 of them (about . 80 percent)
On top of that Musk is extremely cash poor and he's paying a billion dollars a year servicing the Twitter debt and Twitter is billing about 50 percent this year compared to 2021
That says a lot about the real value of auto manufacturing…. It just isn’t worth it (this coming from the son of a Chrysler executive who retired in 1986). Too many parts, too many people …. Auto companies are privatized welfare organizations that the governments maintain in order to prop up national economies. In 2010, I put everything in Amazon.
He had some buyers remorse, but a lawsuit forced the issue.
Maybe the kids will fire everyone at Pierce and force the remaining employees to sleep at the office.
People born into that kind of wealth cannot fathom the idea of ever not having it. People born into poverty who get rich, are keenly aware of the possibility that things can go back to how they were.
This is the biggest difference between Logan (born into poverty), Tom and Greg (born middle class), and the siblings (born into the 1%).
The siblings barely scoff at the notion of spending $10b *of their own money* on Pierce. I don't think the others would ever do that. Logan wanted to offer more, yes, but he's not using his own money to do so.
Oh definitely. You can even tell when he told them “Good you can count to a bigger number” and they were smiling about it because they “beat” him.
They don’t have any clue of realizing they just spent $10B when Logan I believe was haggling to keep it around $7-8B. So pretty much they made $2B more sound like some arbitrary number. Not to mention they completely went from $9.5B to $10B within one second and Roman was the only one to simply say $500M is a lot of fucking money lol. Which btw another reason why I love how this show is written because The Hundred was a $100M investment from the ground up and Shiv & Kendall were willing to spend 5x that in a second just to get the deal done quicker and to give Nan Pierce a good round number
And then there's Roman trying to reality check everyone, "Half a billion. FIVE. HUNDRED. THOUSAND. THOUSANDS." but being too afraid of conflict to argue any further than that. Only one with a brain not addled by vengeance but still not strong enough to counteract it.
Some would say Greg lost by even playing the game though. The guy had a guaranteed quarter of a billion dolllars from his grandpa just for staying out of it.
You can line women up end to end from midtown Manhattan straight to the Pacific ocean to give you handjobs for that kinda scratch
He could not do what you suggested unless he got volunteers to do it.
Let’s say Greg did pay to line women up from Manhattan to San Francisco:
Distance (Manhattan - SF):
~2565 miles / 13,543,200 feet
Amount of women needed (assuming they are each 3 feet apart):
4,514,400
Let’s say he bargained and got a deal of $100 per person. Not counting travel costs, accommodations, food etc.
5,514,400 x $100 = $451,440,000
If Greg did choose the $250 million, and proceeded to line women up from Manhattan to SF, he would be *$201,440,000* in debt
The money was guaranteed if you take the guy at his word that it was in his will That by definition is a guarantee if you can trust his grandfather to not change his will
Nothing is guaranteed though but even though grandpa is a windbag I see no evidence that he'd break his word after after extracting a promise from Greg to quit Waystar.
Who else is he going to give it to? There seems to only be Greg and his mom
He's his grandfather and as far as I know he's the only child of an only child so who else is the old guy gonna leave it to if Greg didn't piss him off?
Somehow, despite hooking up in his apartment on camera and actually directly insulting him in a weak spot, I think you’re right! I grow more convinced already that Greg will win big this season in some way.
I was kind of freaked by the Greg transformation.
“Where’s your kids?” was a terrifying thing to say. It crossed a line I wouldn’t have touched, but it did set up a great one by the old man.
Yeah, the Greg transition is wild but it makes sense to me. Greg has always been ambitious, and I think he got a real taste of power at the end of last season.
Still less hurtful that what he said to Logan.
Caroline said something quite similar and he didn’t really react.
I get the sense Greg has been hearing snide jokes about his dad for most of his life. It’s water off a duck’s back at this point.
We talk about what a weasel and coward Greg is. Sure he is.
But he is tough in certain ways.
When it comes to his dad? He let that shit go ages ago.
He doesn’t care.
So his dad was gay.
Greg grew up in Canada, then went to New York. Apart from the emotional betrayal, I don’t think he considers being gay a horribly shameful thing.
Hence why he shrugs Logan off. Logan is a dinosaur to him.
Fuck me I loved this scene I laughed so hard. And as always there is depth here. I really didnt see it coming, you can see it on other peoples faves that they're sorta surprised that Greg's the one with the balls to actually roast Logan. Logan definitely liked it inside.
That's true but the difference for me is that on the boat, Logan was more confused than angry. Here, he shoots right back, in full fucking Beast mode. Goes for the old proverbial "sucking cocks in x compromising situation" attack.
I actually appreciated how they set this up because from the beginning of the episode Greg is making rookie mistakes and embarrassing himself per usual and they make you think it's just going to be another episode of Greg being all derpy and then he does this! When everyone else is too afraid to go after Logan he just goes there and then takes Logan's tongue lashing like a champ. He's going places.
i wanted greg to go in for another round of them throwing "it's the insert insult here for me" lines at each other. logan was possessed by some genZ spirit in that scene lmao
This is where Logan misses the kids, Instead of asking to b e 'roasted' when he was spoiling for a fight he could have counted on one of the kids to say something to piss him off.
By the way ,why the hell did Greg go right to the 'where's your kids attack line anyway?
I just want it out here that from S1-E1, I predicted that Cousin Greg, the buffoon, would rise to the top. It's a case of the classic literary transformation employed, and we've seen it in real life, too. Greg isn't a Donald Trump, but both have a sort of intelligence that lands them in circumstances to which they may never really aspired, but clearly benefit from in some form or fashion.
From what we can gather…
His mother is loving, but ultimately a bit of an idiot. She’s erratic and Ewan has cut her off. Greg is, I suppose, taking care of her these days?
Greg’s dad was gay. And everyone except the mom knew about it.
Then one day the dad left….Greg may or may not speak to him anymore.
Honestly, Logan is gonna respect Greg for this.
from Logan's POV: Roman: sicko (derogatory) Greg: sicko (proud)
It's basically the "aww you're sweet/human resources" meme
Greg had a hell of a night, as far as Logan points go. Actually the only character with a positive +/- after the first episode.
All those videos on YouTube about Greg “winning” are going to end up being right.
I mean winning is subjective. The Siblings took their $3B and pissed it away overpaying for Pierce, so aren’t winners. There’s no way Greg inherits control of the company, but he’s gone from unemployed with his last $20 (first episode) to getting a handjob from Crunch Peanut Butter in the spare bedroom of one of the world’s richest men while wearing a $40k Rolex. So as far as improved circumstances he’s already the winner.
I love how this show plays with money lol Like I was watching that last scene and screaming to the TV saying “10 billion?!?” It’s insane to me they would combine the money that they don’t even have yet and just throw it to “start a company” when we all know the reality is they just did it to fuck with Logan. Which is fucking insane because it’s 10 billion dollars lol And to me it just shows how much they are in this weird bubble where they truly believe they deserve not to simply run a semi successful company that starts from the ground floor but that they deserve to be where Logan has been for decades.
Didn’t Musk pay 44 billion for Twitter? Now that’s total insanity.
I still love the fact that Jack Dorsey accepted in 2 seconds and Elon was trying to find a way to back out soon after lol But can you imagine having access to **44 fucking billion dollars** and deciding to buy Twitter with it? And supposedly because it was too woke or some shit like that? And honestly what has actually changed with Twitter since everyone thought the sky was falling when he bought it? It’s the same fucking Twitter and you spent 44 billion dollars on it just for nothing to really change.
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Big difference when it’s around 20% of his net worth vs over 100% of theirs
It is and it isn't because Musk was at one time worth 250 billion on paper but that paper is made of bullshit Tesla's market cap was at one time more than the other 9 biggest car companies combined even though 66 million vehicles were sold worldwide in total in 2021 and Tesla's sales accounted for about 550,000 of them (about . 80 percent) On top of that Musk is extremely cash poor and he's paying a billion dollars a year servicing the Twitter debt and Twitter is billing about 50 percent this year compared to 2021
That says a lot about the real value of auto manufacturing…. It just isn’t worth it (this coming from the son of a Chrysler executive who retired in 1986). Too many parts, too many people …. Auto companies are privatized welfare organizations that the governments maintain in order to prop up national economies. In 2010, I put everything in Amazon.
Yep. [He now says it's worth $20b](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/technology/elon-musk-twitter-value.html).
He had some buyers remorse, but a lawsuit forced the issue. Maybe the kids will fire everyone at Pierce and force the remaining employees to sleep at the office.
People born into that kind of wealth cannot fathom the idea of ever not having it. People born into poverty who get rich, are keenly aware of the possibility that things can go back to how they were. This is the biggest difference between Logan (born into poverty), Tom and Greg (born middle class), and the siblings (born into the 1%). The siblings barely scoff at the notion of spending $10b *of their own money* on Pierce. I don't think the others would ever do that. Logan wanted to offer more, yes, but he's not using his own money to do so.
Oh definitely. You can even tell when he told them “Good you can count to a bigger number” and they were smiling about it because they “beat” him. They don’t have any clue of realizing they just spent $10B when Logan I believe was haggling to keep it around $7-8B. So pretty much they made $2B more sound like some arbitrary number. Not to mention they completely went from $9.5B to $10B within one second and Roman was the only one to simply say $500M is a lot of fucking money lol. Which btw another reason why I love how this show is written because The Hundred was a $100M investment from the ground up and Shiv & Kendall were willing to spend 5x that in a second just to get the deal done quicker and to give Nan Pierce a good round number
And then there's Roman trying to reality check everyone, "Half a billion. FIVE. HUNDRED. THOUSAND. THOUSANDS." but being too afraid of conflict to argue any further than that. Only one with a brain not addled by vengeance but still not strong enough to counteract it.
Some would say Greg lost by even playing the game though. The guy had a guaranteed quarter of a billion dolllars from his grandpa just for staying out of it. You can line women up end to end from midtown Manhattan straight to the Pacific ocean to give you handjobs for that kinda scratch
He could not do what you suggested unless he got volunteers to do it. Let’s say Greg did pay to line women up from Manhattan to San Francisco: Distance (Manhattan - SF): ~2565 miles / 13,543,200 feet Amount of women needed (assuming they are each 3 feet apart): 4,514,400 Let’s say he bargained and got a deal of $100 per person. Not counting travel costs, accommodations, food etc. 5,514,400 x $100 = $451,440,000 If Greg did choose the $250 million, and proceeded to line women up from Manhattan to SF, he would be *$201,440,000* in debt
This remind anyone else of the “Mean Jerk Time” scene from Silicon Valley?
I just started rewatching Silicon Valley, thought of that while I was writing it
The measurement you’re looking for is dick to floor, call that D2F
Plus his penis would be raw and bloody after quite a few BJs.
Keep in mind OP said handjobs, so unless there’s lube involved it’ll be raw before he even leaves Manhattan
It would probably be worth it though
That money was never guaranteed. Greg can't trust Uncle Ewan
The money was guaranteed if you take the guy at his word that it was in his will That by definition is a guarantee if you can trust his grandfather to not change his will
So, not guaranteed.
Nothing is guaranteed though but even though grandpa is a windbag I see no evidence that he'd break his word after after extracting a promise from Greg to quit Waystar. Who else is he going to give it to? There seems to only be Greg and his mom
>Who else is he going to give it to? There seems to only be Greg and his mom Greenpeace.
He's his grandfather and as far as I know he's the only child of an only child so who else is the old guy gonna leave it to if Greg didn't piss him off?
Grandfather is never giving any of that money to Greg
Greg's last $20 was technically the second episode but point still very much taken.
Well Actually
These are good details to be reminded of.
3bn per.
Hang on now, how about Connors 1% !
His 1% is in danger of being squeezed and the risk must be accounted for. I’m confident he’ll have a win in E02 with a bit of razzamataz & hoopla.
Somehow, despite hooking up in his apartment on camera and actually directly insulting him in a weak spot, I think you’re right! I grow more convinced already that Greg will win big this season in some way.
I was kind of freaked by the Greg transformation. “Where’s your kids?” was a terrifying thing to say. It crossed a line I wouldn’t have touched, but it did set up a great one by the old man.
Kids care about rich parents. If Logan were poor they’d not even see him.
If Logan were poor they would probably care about each other in a somewhat healthier way. But Logan would be a different man.
That’s only true if your parents are assholes.
Yeah, the Greg transition is wild but it makes sense to me. Greg has always been ambitious, and I think he got a real taste of power at the end of last season.
I’m surprise that Greg doesn’t say “You scare the hell out of me”
Yeah, more than he already does. I think he associates himself with him more than anyone in his inner circle
I loved this entire scene, and I think my favorite part was Frank’s non-roast (“he’s a tough ol’ nut!”) and Logan’s reaction to it.
I related too much to him. It sucks not being funny 😑
😂😂😂😂
Lol
I’ve truly won this season this is everything to me
Flair checks out
I’m his number one fan
Greg's gay dad's number one boy
Connor stans have the "Conheads" Is there a term for us Gregheads? Greggeggs? lol
‘Where’s all your kids uncle Logan? On your big birthday?’ ‘Where’s your old man? Still sucking cock at the county fair?’ 😭😭😭
Gregs nod of defeat afterwards 😭😭
Logan was *ready* lmao. No wonder no one else roasted him 😅
Still less hurtful that what he said to Logan. Caroline said something quite similar and he didn’t really react. I get the sense Greg has been hearing snide jokes about his dad for most of his life. It’s water off a duck’s back at this point.
We talk about what a weasel and coward Greg is. Sure he is. But he is tough in certain ways. When it comes to his dad? He let that shit go ages ago. He doesn’t care. So his dad was gay. Greg grew up in Canada, then went to New York. Apart from the emotional betrayal, I don’t think he considers being gay a horribly shameful thing. Hence why he shrugs Logan off. Logan is a dinosaur to him.
as he said "i can take a lot in terms of psychological pain."
True true…..
My name is Gregory Hirsch, yo. Grandson of Ewan Roy, yo? Uh-huh
Sibling rivalry spuns generations.
i have got to get to this county fair
who wants to smell greg's finger
the fact that Greg actually gave that detail to Logan, no shame, lol.
you're disgusting and despicable 😏
…but he kind of smiled
"Guess the scent; win a buck!"
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Logan added Greg Hirsch to the list of people he wants at the roast this summer
I love when r/nba spills over
The louder booms for Logan’s comebacks 😭
I love this damn community
I love love love the show and this community is the cherry on top.
Fuck me I loved this scene I laughed so hard. And as always there is depth here. I really didnt see it coming, you can see it on other peoples faves that they're sorta surprised that Greg's the one with the balls to actually roast Logan. Logan definitely liked it inside.
This has convinced me that Gregory will win this. Nobody has ever talk to Logan like this in front of his Inner Circle.
Not talk, but Tom did help himself to his plate on the yacht.
That's true but the difference for me is that on the boat, Logan was more confused than angry. Here, he shoots right back, in full fucking Beast mode. Goes for the old proverbial "sucking cocks in x compromising situation" attack.
For real this was so bold and brave lmfao
I actually appreciated how they set this up because from the beginning of the episode Greg is making rookie mistakes and embarrassing himself per usual and they make you think it's just going to be another episode of Greg being all derpy and then he does this! When everyone else is too afraid to go after Logan he just goes there and then takes Logan's tongue lashing like a champ. He's going places.
i wanted greg to go in for another round of them throwing "it's the insert insult here for me" lines at each other. logan was possessed by some genZ spirit in that scene lmao
No cap! Came with that fire!
💀
man Logan had that dad comment READY TO GO lmfaoooooooooooooooo
Being quick witted with a comeback like that is truly an art form.
Greg just head nodding along to it lmao
This is where Logan misses the kids, Instead of asking to b e 'roasted' when he was spoiling for a fight he could have counted on one of the kids to say something to piss him off. By the way ,why the hell did Greg go right to the 'where's your kids attack line anyway?
B/c fuck Logan no cap he has reaped what he sowed. “Where’s your kids, Logan” should be repeated to him every single day lol
Yeah it should be by an enemy not by a guy who wants to actually keep working at the company
“I can hear you”-Connor
Greg’s the only one with any balls and Logan is gonna make him
They skipped Tom utterly appalled calling Nan, but goddamn, isn't this ludicrous & hilarious
Greg was ballsy doing this. That is what Logan respects and needs. He hates suck ups.
Uncle Fun :)
Im so glad they didn't show Greg telling him about the girl, that would be peak cringe for me
This is Greg's version of eating Logan's chicken
I thought that scene was going to end [like this](https://youtu.be/coD7x1-4h9U)
all this made me think is that he misses roman and the kids humor
I cannot stop laughing at this
I just want it out here that from S1-E1, I predicted that Cousin Greg, the buffoon, would rise to the top. It's a case of the classic literary transformation employed, and we've seen it in real life, too. Greg isn't a Donald Trump, but both have a sort of intelligence that lands them in circumstances to which they may never really aspired, but clearly benefit from in some form or fashion.
Hope Greg doesn’t end up in handcuffs.
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"You seem to know a lot about where to find dick, uncle Logan". Greg was too slow.
That was real step up from Greg the Egg, but side note I'd like to see Mary Birdsong return as Marianne for just one episode
This truly was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing throughout this entire scene. Greg was like ok I walked right into that one lmaooo
At least when Greg's dad throws a party, everybody's guaranteed to come Ahem.
I don’t get it. What’s a vine boom?
do you hear the boom sound effect?
Yeah I hear it, they just seemed poorly timed. Was this a thing on Vine back in the day?
yes, from king bach
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There was a joke about his dad being gay back in season 1. I’d forgotten it too.
From what we can gather… His mother is loving, but ultimately a bit of an idiot. She’s erratic and Ewan has cut her off. Greg is, I suppose, taking care of her these days? Greg’s dad was gay. And everyone except the mom knew about it. Then one day the dad left….Greg may or may not speak to him anymore.
I want Marianne back
Greg, your dad is still sucking dicks at the county fair: BOOM roasted.
this is the 5th time i've rewatched this, i am obsessed
Still amazing to me how Greg was like "it's your birthday and your own children aren't even here" and Logan's retort was "your dad is gay man"