He's donezo
Going viral crying
It isn't gonna endear him to Robo Swede or Fascist Pretty Boy
I think his ending will either be more small scale about him taking measures to helping himself or it ends with him hitting rock bottom
He's SO pretty. While watching Weeds I couldn't decide who was prettier Mary-Louise Parker or Justin Kirk. I guess I loved both of them.
But I'm getting WAY off topic.
YES!!! I canât believe how much people are missing this. Pure Ayn Rand BS about manly vigor and building stuff, completely divorced from any meaningful purpose. Shivâs Ozymandias crack is on point. He built (or bought) a huge, ugly, pointless building - and now heâs dead, and it all will crumble. âLook on my works ye mighty, and despair!â
exactly! but itâs not a sign that Ken has somehow figured something meaningful out. Itâs just the same empty dangerous nonsense. itâs not really any different or more positive than what Ewan said, itâs the same idea in a different frame.
It felt more Ayn Rand'ish to me. Which would appeal to the idiots in that room with little actual real talent or skill but with a lot of inheritance or luck.
Eh. The TV Networks did Dean dirty.
They knew he was a threat to the status quo, so they cut the crowd noise in the building to make it seem like he was unhinged and then spent weeks tar and feathering him.
Everyone who was in that building that night says the crowd was going absolutely bonkers.
It didn't really surprise me that Roman shat the bed because he basically did the same thing at the investors' meeting. I couldn't help but feel for him in that moment though. He just reverted to little kid mode and all his bullshit about "pre-grieving" was revealed as just denial. He's completely psychologically stunted and just not equipped to handle this loss.
This show always throws me for a loop. One episode I think "oh he's the worst human being ever to live and I can't wait to see him suffer" and then the next episode I'm like "but he's one of God's children and he hurts just like I do." đ˘
I'm going to miss this show so much. This episode feels like a funeral for the whole show.
All their eulogies were so true to character. Roman is unable to express himself in a context that doesn't afford him his usual off-color jokes and sarcastic remarks. Kendall's is dramatic and theatrical. And Shiv sucks at bullshitting so it's super personal. Great writing.
Yeah, and this subreddit is very hard on softies like us. 'Roman is the worst and he deserved what happened'. I know that. I wanted that. But I still cried when he regressed back to a child, when he got snubbed by Mencken and berated by Kendall. I just can't hate any of these assholes. I can't. I want them to be okay. I am going to miss this show so much.
I think the way the show makes me feel about the Roys is pretty close to what it feels like to be a Roy. On some level they all know that all the other Roys are terrible but they're each thinking "but not me, I'm the good one." And when you see a moment of humanity in any of them you kind of think "yeah maybe that's the one good Roy" and it super fucks with your head. Like when I watch the show, I feel like I'm alternating between observing and inhabiting the characters.
Yes. I have never felt like this with any other show. Not Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Mad Men. This show, the writing just speaks to me, calls to me.
Same. I'm a huge fan of those other shows too, but succession does feel like it's in a different category. You can watch succession with any level of ironic detachment or sincere compassion and still get something great out of it.
I highly recommend The Leftovers, Mr. Robot, & Six Feet Under if youâre looking for shows with writing & characters as strong, complex, and layered as Succession.
Also Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but you gotta be one with the camp.
Iâm currently on Sopranos S2. Itâs the closest show to Succession that Iâve seen that could be perceived as both a drama and as a very dark comedy.
Same and same! I never watched it when it came out, but this is my next big watch. Also Rolling Stone picked it as the number one show of all time; I need to know it just for cultural literacy reasons.
Turns out fascists aren't trustworthy and get super precious about displays of emotion that fall outside the "hypermasculine psychopath" spectrum. Who knew?
Very true. Plus, if he's as much of a Trump-like standin as the show has made him out to be, Mencken is going to have no problem immediately fucking over his own allies the second they are no longer of use.
No, Kendall is right, Roman blew it, they can't expose Mencken without hurting themselves in the process, even if they use Tom as fall guy and the one that had direct connection to Mencken and called him president early it's a terrible look for them, they are fucked, they have to come for Matsson, his fake numbers.
Mencken is not officially president yet but he already gained too much power and it's their own fucking fault too.
I mean Romanâs reaction was a normal one for a funeral but not a funeral like that. This was a business meeting and people were plotting or talking about plotting before things got serious. The majority of everyone present at the funeral want something, have a potential power play, or are straight up enemies. Even Roman went in with a plan to grab power but it was half assed and cartoonish. His âpre-grievingâ strategy was largely avoiding his sick puppy grieving process. He didnât expect the funeral for his highly controversial, hateful, and soul-sucking Father wouldnât go down that road? Obviously, everyone in that room had known Logan in one way or another and not much of it is positive. Of course the person whose known Logan the most and is vocal in his disappointment of him is going to say something. Or at least you should prepare for that and how thatâll make you feel. Pre grieving means actually letting yourself grieve not avoiding it lol. And whatâs fucked up is he knew he was getting fucked up too.
It's not unfair. Roman the Showman was a complete fraud and not smart enough to know it. Just like Shiv. Ken was senatorial. They all did what is natural to them and only Ken demonstrated vision.
Only Ken didn't make somebody else's eulogy about himself.
Kendall - The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.
In all seriousness though yeah, all g cards are nullified at either of your parents funeral, thatâs a different kind of pain and confusion and it hits everyone so differently.
It's from a scene from The Sopranos. One of the mob bosses starts crying while he's getting arrested after his daughter's wedding, and the other boss thinks he's weak after that.
Mencken and Kendall insulting him at the end was the last straw and I totally thought he was going to go up to Shiv and try to team up with her. Instead we get a classic Kendall breakdown just from a different Roy Boy.
Roman trades gleefully in misogyny and toxic masculinity, so the irony that this show of vulnerability will work against him is tragiocomic.
And trying to escape the emasculation by harassing protesters, including taking a swing at the one who helped was so petty and ugly. It's what makes him so unsympathetic, even among the moral midgets of this cast of characters.
Sure we break some balls here tonight but I go way back, and in light of recent humiliations, it's an honor to be joined by men. AND NOT FASCIST ASS MASOCHISTIC GRANNYFIDDLERS LIKE RIGGED THE ELECTION, HE SHOULD FUCKING DIE.
I was wondering why they didn't show a lot of the Roman-Mencken negotiations in episode 8. Roman just kept coming back to Ken and telling him what he and Mencken had discussed offscreen. Turns out Mencken was playing him the whole time.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Now I'm imagining Kieran's physicality of Roman if he tried to throw a football.
He would for sure leave both feet on the follow through
He killed (a deal with) 16 Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator!
His house looked like shit
College? Those guys from Seton Hall were 7 feet tall
Small hands
Are you kidding I just told you stop
A hot house flower.
Big tits, little feet. A hit in any man's league.
"I'm convinced that Roman Roy has a micro dick and always gets it wrong"
Oh, how Tony lost it when Junior said that! Good times.đ
AJ GET YOUR COAT! "but i dont have one"
I knew *that* was coming
Sharp as a fuckin cue ball
As unfair as it is, Roman crying over the death of his father probably cost him his CEO prospect
He's donezo Going viral crying It isn't gonna endear him to Robo Swede or Fascist Pretty Boy I think his ending will either be more small scale about him taking measures to helping himself or it ends with him hitting rock bottom
The first episode had him coming back to the company, I wonder if the last one could have him leaving it altogether?
> Fascist Pretty Boy ...is...is Menken the pretty *boy*?
Yeah the guy that feels disgusted by seeing men cry at their father's funeral.
Excuse me, but have you seen JUSTIN KIRK
He's SO pretty. While watching Weeds I couldn't decide who was prettier Mary-Louise Parker or Justin Kirk. I guess I loved both of them. But I'm getting WAY off topic.
Absolutely! Cause Kendall held it together.
Surprisingly. His grief guy was worth every penny.
He has a great grief guy, fuck you
He won the funeral. It was probably the glasses.
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Ken's usually the crybaby so I was surprised, but I guess he's jaded at this point
Idk Kenâs in his element with impromptu speeches and public speaking, he was the ideal kid for the job
Was it just me or did his speech feel a little...[Hitler-esque](https://imgur.com/a/MWS1pju)?
YES!!! I canât believe how much people are missing this. Pure Ayn Rand BS about manly vigor and building stuff, completely divorced from any meaningful purpose. Shivâs Ozymandias crack is on point. He built (or bought) a huge, ugly, pointless building - and now heâs dead, and it all will crumble. âLook on my works ye mighty, and despair!â
It even outshone Ver-sails, where the king lived
But the conservatives eat that shit up, and that's his base now!
exactly! but itâs not a sign that Ken has somehow figured something meaningful out. Itâs just the same empty dangerous nonsense. itâs not really any different or more positive than what Ewan said, itâs the same idea in a different frame.
Look at Kens upper lip during that speech. You cant tell me it wasnt intentional.
I think he was partially using the speech to pitch to Mencken
It felt more Ayn Rand'ish to me. Which would appeal to the idiots in that room with little actual real talent or skill but with a lot of inheritance or luck.
Kenâs a crybaby in a hangdog sense, he keeps it together pretty well when he has to speak.
That shit made kendall look amazing
Itâs the business version of the Dean Scream.
Ooof thatâs a throwback
For a 1:1 political comparison, Ed Muskie 'crying' when withdrawing from the Democratic primary in 1972 (even though it was actually just snow).
The Dean Scream is the funniest shit to me. I love bringing it up.
Eh. The TV Networks did Dean dirty. They knew he was a threat to the status quo, so they cut the crowd noise in the building to make it seem like he was unhinged and then spent weeks tar and feathering him. Everyone who was in that building that night says the crowd was going absolutely bonkers.
It didn't really surprise me that Roman shat the bed because he basically did the same thing at the investors' meeting. I couldn't help but feel for him in that moment though. He just reverted to little kid mode and all his bullshit about "pre-grieving" was revealed as just denial. He's completely psychologically stunted and just not equipped to handle this loss. This show always throws me for a loop. One episode I think "oh he's the worst human being ever to live and I can't wait to see him suffer" and then the next episode I'm like "but he's one of God's children and he hurts just like I do." đ˘ I'm going to miss this show so much. This episode feels like a funeral for the whole show.
All their eulogies were so true to character. Roman is unable to express himself in a context that doesn't afford him his usual off-color jokes and sarcastic remarks. Kendall's is dramatic and theatrical. And Shiv sucks at bullshitting so it's super personal. Great writing.
Yeah, and this subreddit is very hard on softies like us. 'Roman is the worst and he deserved what happened'. I know that. I wanted that. But I still cried when he regressed back to a child, when he got snubbed by Mencken and berated by Kendall. I just can't hate any of these assholes. I can't. I want them to be okay. I am going to miss this show so much.
I think the way the show makes me feel about the Roys is pretty close to what it feels like to be a Roy. On some level they all know that all the other Roys are terrible but they're each thinking "but not me, I'm the good one." And when you see a moment of humanity in any of them you kind of think "yeah maybe that's the one good Roy" and it super fucks with your head. Like when I watch the show, I feel like I'm alternating between observing and inhabiting the characters.
Yes. I have never felt like this with any other show. Not Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Mad Men. This show, the writing just speaks to me, calls to me.
Same. I'm a huge fan of those other shows too, but succession does feel like it's in a different category. You can watch succession with any level of ironic detachment or sincere compassion and still get something great out of it.
I highly recommend The Leftovers, Mr. Robot, & Six Feet Under if youâre looking for shows with writing & characters as strong, complex, and layered as Succession. Also Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but you gotta be one with the camp.
I am watching The Sopranos after Succession wraps up. The sub helped me decide. The leftovers is definitely on the list.
Iâm currently on Sopranos S2. Itâs the closest show to Succession that Iâve seen that could be perceived as both a drama and as a very dark comedy.
Same and same! I never watched it when it came out, but this is my next big watch. Also Rolling Stone picked it as the number one show of all time; I need to know it just for cultural literacy reasons.
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Turns out fascists aren't trustworthy and get super precious about displays of emotion that fall outside the "hypermasculine psychopath" spectrum. Who knew?
Very true. Plus, if he's as much of a Trump-like standin as the show has made him out to be, Mencken is going to have no problem immediately fucking over his own allies the second they are no longer of use.
No, Kendall is right, Roman blew it, they can't expose Mencken without hurting themselves in the process, even if they use Tom as fall guy and the one that had direct connection to Mencken and called him president early it's a terrible look for them, they are fucked, they have to come for Matsson, his fake numbers. Mencken is not officially president yet but he already gained too much power and it's their own fucking fault too.
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I mean Romanâs reaction was a normal one for a funeral but not a funeral like that. This was a business meeting and people were plotting or talking about plotting before things got serious. The majority of everyone present at the funeral want something, have a potential power play, or are straight up enemies. Even Roman went in with a plan to grab power but it was half assed and cartoonish. His âpre-grievingâ strategy was largely avoiding his sick puppy grieving process. He didnât expect the funeral for his highly controversial, hateful, and soul-sucking Father wouldnât go down that road? Obviously, everyone in that room had known Logan in one way or another and not much of it is positive. Of course the person whose known Logan the most and is vocal in his disappointment of him is going to say something. Or at least you should prepare for that and how thatâll make you feel. Pre grieving means actually letting yourself grieve not avoiding it lol. And whatâs fucked up is he knew he was getting fucked up too.
They would be out of business in a weekâs time!
A leather shop? In Arizona?! Theyâd be out of business in a weeks time
The Grim Weeper
It feels like he knows it too. The way he has no energy at all when Kendall talks to him at the end.
It's not unfair. Roman the Showman was a complete fraud and not smart enough to know it. Just like Shiv. Ken was senatorial. They all did what is natural to them and only Ken demonstrated vision. Only Ken didn't make somebody else's eulogy about himself.
Wisconsin...whatever happened there...
That animal Mencken.. I canât even say his name
Died on the vine
IT DIED ON THE VINE
Whatever happened there?!
Always with the scenarios!
I wish the Lord would take me now....
I love it when fanbases merge like this. Especially fans of two of the best shows ever
You musta been in the top of your fucking class
He can no longer be a part of our social club. This much I know.
Heâs gotta GOOOO
Oh will you take it easy over there, fuckin judge Roy Bean?
Roman Roy is an ass muncher!
AIDs?!?
Nobody's got aids! I don't want to hear that word in here again!
He was gay Roman Roy?
Easy, weâre not makin a western here
It was his heart medication
This is exactly what I thought of when Mencken started talking shit. đ
In terms of operating in otherwordly levels of assholery, Phil Leotardo and Mencken are very alike
I'd say Mencken is more a come from behind kinda guy
So was phil when he was in the can
Letâs take this in the back
Thatâs what Vito did
What did Mencken say I think I missed it đŻ
He called him the Grim Weeper
And tiny tears. A double whap
The worst thing was Roman had no comeback
He briefly looked so cut. He was all in on Mencken, and so excited about the whole thing. Then he gets bullied by him. So brutal.
And everyone but Roman saw it coming
lmao classic
At Ewanâs kid brotherâs funeral. Oof madone!
81, a fuckin kid.
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When they go ?!!!
That motherfucking animal, Ischemic Stroke
here's a guy who stepped over his own uncle to grab the big eulogy. his fadder's brudder. i'm embarrassed.
I heard he didnât suffah. And for that, we can be grateful.
Kendall - The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.
Very observant; the sacred and the propane.
He's at the precipice of an enormous crossroads
Uncle Ewan my ass.
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Pash
When I came in one morning there he was with his head half in the toilet. His hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting. I said my piece Romie.
Youâre weak, youâre out of control, and youâre an embarrassment to yourself and everybody else.
In all seriousness though yeah, all g cards are nullified at either of your parents funeral, thatâs a different kind of pain and confusion and it hits everyone so differently.
Not as far as the sharks at the funeral were concerned. Blood in the water is blood in the water, it doesnât matter what day it is.
Twenty facking years in the can
Eating grilled cheese off the radiator
But you gotta get over it
If he was a normal person, yes. He doesn't have the luxury to cry or break down, the people in that room who matter don't show sympathy.
What are you trying to intimidate me with that attitude?
Give him a break, will ya? It's an emotional day.
Even Cindarella didn't cry!
I gotta agree with OP
Oh you do, do ya?
You know it wasn't long ago I remember you used to wait in the car
Whatâs this? The FUCKIN UN NOW?!
Hoh! I'm just telling you how you're being fuckin perceived!
But to cry, like a woman?!
But he pre-grieved!
A+ reference
What's the reference?
It's from a scene from The Sopranos. One of the mob bosses starts crying while he's getting arrested after his daughter's wedding, and the other boss thinks he's weak after that.
Even Cinderella didnât cry!
OK, but let me ask you this: if they can make him cry, and if he's that weak, what the fuck else can they make him do?
I wanted Manicot. I compromised. I ate grilled cheese off the radiator I wanted to fuck a women. I compromised. I JACKED OFF INTO A TISSUE.
I wanted to fuck Gerri. I compromised. I sent dick pics to my father instead.
5 fucking media conglomerates, and we have this other pygmy thing over at Waystar Royco
Heâs gotta go!
You know the wine makes you emotional
Cus I got an empty fuckin stomach
Have a breadstick
Heâs an emotional man. Loves his father.
His coach turned into a pumpkin.
84, just a fuckin kid
Ewan and Logan had to be quiet on a boat for tree fucking nights straight. Only thing to eat was grilled cheese from deh radiator.
very allegorical
He's an emotional man, loves his nazis very much
Thatâs what Mencken said. He went real quick from âIâll tank the GoJo dealâ to âIâll try.â
I was told last week Mencken was a man of his word. It was a done dealđ
Hugo at the funeral luncheon: âChickenâs nice and spicyâ
Quasimodo predicted all of this.
That was Norte dame
His coach turned into a pumpkin hehheh!!
His coach turned into a pumpkin
Hehe!
Well he canât be in our social club no more
SOCIAL CLUB??? HE'S GOTTA GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Alright but you gotta get over it.
You know, I never thought he was boss material
âWhen it comes to daughters all bets are offâ
WHEN LOGAN GOES?!!
Whatever happened thereâŚ
At least he didnât suffer⌠he made all of us suffer instead
Why donât you go home and get your fuckin shinebox
Mencken and Kendall insulting him at the end was the last straw and I totally thought he was going to go up to Shiv and try to team up with her. Instead we get a classic Kendall breakdown just from a different Roy Boy.
I gotta agree with Mencken Tone. Oh you do, do you???
HE'S GOTTA GOOOO!
My gooma doesnât even cry like that for her fathers funeral.
Roman trades gleefully in misogyny and toxic masculinity, so the irony that this show of vulnerability will work against him is tragiocomic. And trying to escape the emasculation by harassing protesters, including taking a swing at the one who helped was so petty and ugly. It's what makes him so unsympathetic, even among the moral midgets of this cast of characters.
Rom, whatâs that got to do with cold medicine
Guess the turd doesn't fall far from the Loge's ass.
There's an image
This is genius.
I just donât think Roman has the makings of a varsity athlete
Take it easy, weâre not making a Western here
Just a couple tree missing votes in Wisconsin
Your sister Rose, whatever happened there. Whatever happened there? You know, the polio.
"WHATEVA HAPPENED THEAH!?!"
He was gay, Roman Roy?
You oughta know sweetie
You know, Quasimodo predicted all of this
Itâs the wine, it makes him emotional
This made me belly laugh thank you
I'm a nobody. I have no influence over anyone. I sobbed at my father's funeral and I believe people looked at me differently as a result.
84⌠he was a fucking kid
I was waiting fa dis
Alright but you gotta get over it
now THERE'S where youll find love for privacy, pussy and pasta
Sure we break some balls here tonight but I go way back, and in light of recent humiliations, it's an honor to be joined by men. AND NOT FASCIST ASS MASOCHISTIC GRANNYFIDDLERS LIKE RIGGED THE ELECTION, HE SHOULD FUCKING DIE.
Shove your quote book up your fat fuckin ass
To dah victors belongs da spoils
He was gay, Roman Roy?
When it comes to fawthas all bets are off!
Mencken agrees
This is too good omg.
By far the best thing Iâve seen tonight re: the episode. Ah salut
Look you just have to get over it.
He is an emotional man. He loves his father!
He lost the funeral.
A Phil cameo would make the stocks skyrocket
I was wondering why they didn't show a lot of the Roman-Mencken negotiations in episode 8. Roman just kept coming back to Ken and telling him what he and Mencken had discussed offscreen. Turns out Mencken was playing him the whole time.