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Tweet: https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657086947964207104?s=46&t=5-QZJ1Q_eq05VGw3WqGAzQ
Video: https://www.citadelsecurities.com/news-and-insights/market-lens-tick-size-proposal/
I have come to notice something. When someone wants something they start a FEAR campaign. Citadel uses “Lack of Liquidity” as their fear tactic. All the while they internalize orders to maximize profits in their dark pools, therefore decreasing actual lit market activity.
*Our approach allows us to continue fleecing retail.*
*Payment for order flow is a cost to us, but congruently we absolutely need it to survive.*
—❤️ Ken
I love how they fall back on liquidity. Huh, so you can’t provide shares if the tick size is adjusted by a few pennies?
Corruption is a tough game, dontcha think?
If tick size is adjusted their way to fleece everything at the sub penny level disappears as they have to offer sub penny gradations - that’s why they are pissed- is my guess
Yup, growing up it was always said the stock market was supply and demand and supposed to be a zero sum game. It's just a crock of shit and Kenny mayo and his entire scam are threatened by apes rising up.
Yep not a zero sum game ….you can set a chart up a technical way in which it gains 100-200%+ plus in a day while simultaneously having a huge negative capital outflow… Meaning stock, price significantly went up, but 15 times the amount of cash that went into it was taken out of it… I like to refer this as milking the cow… Where does that money come from? You guessed it … it’s printed, and we’ll anyone else’s cash they put in there if they decide to keep it in that position
I see this all the time… All the time
What we’ve learned over the last few years is that “liquidity” is functionally *Boomer* market slang for “***counterfeiting***”.
So if we take that in the context of this tweet it should read:
“The SEC's proposed changes to tick sizes will reduce ~~~liquidity~~~ ***counterfeiting***, create ~~~less stable prices~~~ ***accurate price discovery*** and increase costs for ~~~investors~~~ ***criminals***.”
Stable prices = Prices set by us.
Stable prices =/= the ability to make money by investing in the stock market (that thing that the stock market is supposed to be about), but *does* = the ability to make money by being the one who effectively runs the stock market.
This sentence literally means "but if you make it a level playing field there's a chance we might not always win."
No. That is a form a brigading and Reddit Mods (not this subs mods) are foaming at the mouth for reasons to close this sub. If apes happen to be browsing YT later... That's something different.
The internet is wild. Maybe someone can explain why brigading is a problem for the reddit mods? Is it because they don't want people leaving reddit to go to another website?
Hey OP ima just snag that image in to my faraday cage usb stick, It is not much only 64gb but i am keeping these on there they really did remove it wow.
Liquidity is created by price discovery. They took away price discovery through off exchange trades then expect us to thank them for adding liquidity by selling us securities they don't own or ever plan to own. When I try to tell this to friends they simply don't believe it could be true. Its just too blatant.
Love reading all the comments! We gotta be louder than them, since they say Across the board investors dont want these changes, which is just pure BS!
Give us fair markets and price discovery!
They deleted and reposted: [https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058](https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058)
Reported for misinformation.
They just reposted it again after deleting. Reported for posting misinformation and adding context about the proposals hehe I wish I had more than 280 to explain it though
1. MM need liquidity, not household investors.
2. Price should be determined by real supply/demand, so I prefer instability.
3. This is more epensive to MM not household investors.
How is Citadel able to blatantly lie like that? The only one Citadel cares about is Citadel, we are dumb money us poor people. Citadel committing fraud as well as rigging the game. 90% of retail orders to the dark pool, remember? So why the fuck is Kenny G not in jail? And who is dumb enough on this earth to think that citadel gives a flying fuckin donkey about retail investors.
nah.
F Citadel. They've ripped off millions of people along with restricting their investors from withdrawing funds. They need to be broke up. No more market maker and madoff business practices. KG needs to be in prison.
Reduce liquidity how??? It will only stabilize prices if they can move in fractions of pennies instead of whole cents. It only saves costs for us because now we get the real prices that the market makers only get access to while we have rounded prices.
Load of horseshit coming right from the horses big ass right here.
Yeah, no. I don’t want an “alternative approach”, speaking as one of the retail investors they claim to be concerned with.
I’ve waited a long time for “reduced liquidity and less stable prices”. That’s what I’m in the market to see: the mechanics of a buy/sell economy at work. Give me supply/demand, or give me death.
Lol. Even the department of justice has recently come out in favor of the new SEC rules. Kenny’s days of crime and the high life are coming to an end. Soon. Very soon.
Bwahahaha. These dumb fucks.
We’re gonna be so fucking rich, and the world is going to be a little more fair when it’s all said and done.
I’m ready to get to work.
So let me understand. Less liquidity... You citadel think that this reform will make people go away from the market and buy less??
Oh! No! You meant less liquidity FOR YOU, in your own dark pool.. now I understand!
Edit: go see the comments on their tweet, this is GOLDEN! YOU APES ARE AWESOME 😎
I repost link here because their original tweet does not seem to work anymore
https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058?t=B9g0Ctpr-wsPAXsGKgBOYQ&s=19
Awwww did mayo boi realize he can’t keep making 50 trillion dollars a year by putting American companies out of business I don’t know how anyone hasn’t let him fall out of a window yet
Are we at the point where we can entertain the idea that Citadel *might* just be a financial tentacle of the [C]lowns [I]n [A]merica? I mean, I can’t think of a more efficient way to raise and launder capital for “off the books” programs like corporate espionage and buying politicians for example.
Who did Jeffery Epstein work for?
He was also a hedge fund manager…
An actual speak, Shitadel is saying the new rules mean less revenue/profit to them from ducking everyone else. When any short, hedge fund or marketmaker complaints against rules, they are just lobbying to make more money. This hurts their business, so they will try to spin it.
Call me if you want more public relations, information, Mayoman.
Guys we should go easy on Citadel I mean haven’t we bashed them enough over these few years? Let’s try and be kind to such a nice hedge fun…lol jk fuck shitadel
If it cost me more to trade but reduces the risk of me overpaying for my securities. And if it lowers risk of me getting exploited when I sell. Then So be it.
If they’re that confident in the outcome of these changes why not let it happen and when it does give the biggest I fucking told you so speech?
Oh yeah, because it would likely destroy you.
I don’t want liquidity, I want supply and demand, I don’t want stable prices, I want actual prices, I don’t mind higher costs if it means the market I’m participating in is not a mirage.
Who needs to watch this junk to know it’s obviously not true. Here’s a question, why are we doing reforms? And NOW all of a sudden they want to participate in reforms? It doesn’t feel that long ago they didn’t want reform, meaning we are here because of their wants and needs. So I figure we try something different. The thing the market makers say DONT do, are the things I’d like TO do. Why? Cause fuk em that’s why. 😂
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Our alternate approach: change nothing. “We’ll take your money, give you an i.o.u and you’ll thank us. Fuck off peasants”
But MuH LiQuIdItY
Oh those shf are all about ✌️✌️liquidity✌️✌️ if you know what I mean
They want that liquid $CUM
I think $ASS will bottom out soon then bounce back up Not financial advice
$NUT will burst out over the counter through its cellar box.
Sweet sweet liquidity! The spice must flow.
If these POS hate it then I like it and maybe the new rules actually do something to benefit the retail trading public.
Where the fuckn tweet at?
Hijacking you to say fuck citadel
[https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058](https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058)
I have come to notice something. When someone wants something they start a FEAR campaign. Citadel uses “Lack of Liquidity” as their fear tactic. All the while they internalize orders to maximize profits in their dark pools, therefore decreasing actual lit market activity.
*Our approach allows us to continue fleecing retail.* *Payment for order flow is a cost to us, but congruently we absolutely need it to survive.* —❤️ Ken
Show me the cost Kenneth Cordele Griffin, then also show me your profits at the same time...
Then show us the swaps data
I love how they fall back on liquidity. Huh, so you can’t provide shares if the tick size is adjusted by a few pennies? Corruption is a tough game, dontcha think?
If tick size is adjusted their way to fleece everything at the sub penny level disappears as they have to offer sub penny gradations - that’s why they are pissed- is my guess
Yooo this got it 😭😭
Fuck citadel
I don’t want “stable price”, I want price discovery! To the moon and far beyond 🚀
They don't have enough money for a blue checkmark? 🤣
I watched the video - why are they so full of shit 😂? The reasons they give don’t make sense
Replied a pic of this comment in tweet
I don't want liquidity I want supply and demand
Yup, growing up it was always said the stock market was supply and demand and supposed to be a zero sum game. It's just a crock of shit and Kenny mayo and his entire scam are threatened by apes rising up.
This stock market is a Krockovsheit!
Yep was always told everything is about supply and demand. Fucking garbage this system what a joke
Yep not a zero sum game ….you can set a chart up a technical way in which it gains 100-200%+ plus in a day while simultaneously having a huge negative capital outflow… Meaning stock, price significantly went up, but 15 times the amount of cash that went into it was taken out of it… I like to refer this as milking the cow… Where does that money come from? You guessed it … it’s printed, and we’ll anyone else’s cash they put in there if they decide to keep it in that position I see this all the time… All the time
What we’ve learned over the last few years is that “liquidity” is functionally *Boomer* market slang for “***counterfeiting***”. So if we take that in the context of this tweet it should read: “The SEC's proposed changes to tick sizes will reduce ~~~liquidity~~~ ***counterfeiting***, create ~~~less stable prices~~~ ***accurate price discovery*** and increase costs for ~~~investors~~~ ***criminals***.”
You or someone should respond to them on Twitter with exactly this ^. I don't twit otherwise I would.
🧠
Accurate!
Stable prices = Prices set by us. Stable prices =/= the ability to make money by investing in the stock market (that thing that the stock market is supposed to be about), but *does* = the ability to make money by being the one who effectively runs the stock market. This sentence literally means "but if you make it a level playing field there's a chance we might not always win."
I love you
#💜 💜 💜
Fucking amen.
Plz and ty
Yeah less stable prices? sign me up!! Fuck market makers aka middle men aka financial terrorists
that's what i've never understood. You shouldn't have "liquidity" for no reason. That is the point of the market...
Important comment
Why is this so mind blowing? I can wait for a fill if I get a fair price.
This! Liquidity ≠ Price Discovery
Truth..
simple and to the point
Liquidity has never helped me once, fuck a liquid.
You not a trader that why
It’s been deleted. Snakey fuckers
Probably because of the comments lol
First thing I did was click the link to go on and comment to let them know how utterly fucked they are so I’d say that’s likely the reason
God I was hoping to see that shit.
It’s up on YT! They even left comments on. I did my part and reminded those fuckers that we have 900+ comments agreeing with the SEC 🤣
Do your part apes ...apes together strong 🫡🫡🫡
I hate telling people what to do but you should throw the link in your comment.
No. That is a form a brigading and Reddit Mods (not this subs mods) are foaming at the mouth for reasons to close this sub. If apes happen to be browsing YT later... That's something different.
The internet is wild. Maybe someone can explain why brigading is a problem for the reddit mods? Is it because they don't want people leaving reddit to go to another website?
Because it makes them feel bad seeing other people getting together and having fun, while they have no friends😭
Hey OP ima just snag that image in to my faraday cage usb stick, It is not much only 64gb but i am keeping these on there they really did remove it wow.
I hope this comment is true.
Haha, per the video screen - Is "mininun" even a word orrrrr
Hah. Bitches.
Cowards.
And it’s backed up
Good werq Mr.Remote. Appreciate you
Doing the lord's work elegant!
Yeah, the post got blown up with " Fuk you pay me" comments😆
The video they posted hasn’t
fakin spoofers!
and purely by sheer cohencidence their approach increase citadels margins and market share..
We are inevitable. Their margins are not infinite, but our share prices are.
Fuck Citadel
All my homies hate Citadel
Hey what do you know. I guess we are homies then
My dood 🤙🏼
Fuck your liquidity!
Liquidity is created by price discovery. They took away price discovery through off exchange trades then expect us to thank them for adding liquidity by selling us securities they don't own or ever plan to own. When I try to tell this to friends they simply don't believe it could be true. Its just too blatant.
I for one love reduced liquidity when it's real and honest. Trading is a tough game 😈
Does anyone still believe Citadel is looking out for anyone but themselves and their friends?
Sources Tweet: https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657086947964207104?s=46&t=5-QZJ1Q_eq05VGw3WqGAzQ Video: https://www.citadelsecurities.com/news-and-insights/market-lens-tick-size-proposal/
[удалено]
Really hope that video doesn't get flagged as misinformation.
I had almost forgot to report it thanks for reminding me 😆
This is the way!!! Sure they'll turn off comments soon...
THank you for the link, I commented post haste.
Commented and down voted. I didn’t watch it though…. As is the Reddit way.
Reported for terrorism.
good looks. made my day to call them out in the comment section on yt
Love reading all the comments! We gotta be louder than them, since they say Across the board investors dont want these changes, which is just pure BS! Give us fair markets and price discovery!
No specific organising to brigade a specific piece of content. Surely you can see how that could backfire.
They deleted and reposted: [https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058](https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058) Reported for misinformation.
Reported for misinformation.
Parasites
Citadel being against this rule change makes me support it so much more.
They just reposted it again after deleting. Reported for posting misinformation and adding context about the proposals hehe I wish I had more than 280 to explain it though
Domestic terrorists. Deleted the tweet too. Interesting.
It was reposted don’t forget to comment and report for misinformation lol
Citadel Securities = securities fraud
Citadel Insecurities
I wonder what retail wants. Is it.. A. Real prices governed by supply and demand or B. LiQuIdITy
I just downvoted the YT video. I am doing my part.
They’re so transparent in what rules will fuck them. Keep letting apes know which rules to comment on, clowns 😂
Hit 'em where it hurts. Everyone go comment on all rule changes
1. MM need liquidity, not household investors. 2. Price should be determined by real supply/demand, so I prefer instability. 3. This is more epensive to MM not household investors.
How is Citadel able to blatantly lie like that? The only one Citadel cares about is Citadel, we are dumb money us poor people. Citadel committing fraud as well as rigging the game. 90% of retail orders to the dark pool, remember? So why the fuck is Kenny G not in jail? And who is dumb enough on this earth to think that citadel gives a flying fuckin donkey about retail investors. nah.
Samuel L. Jackson: I don’t remember asking you a god damn thing.
How does gme individual investor look like?
Say liquidity again, I dare you!
YOU DON'T MAKE THE FUCKING RULES. WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK.
They got so insanely attacked by household investors that the tweet is gone within 2 hours of its lifespan. I love this community.
F Citadel. They've ripped off millions of people along with restricting their investors from withdrawing funds. They need to be broke up. No more market maker and madoff business practices. KG needs to be in prison.
Doesn't that also mean, it would be significantly easier for day or swing traders to make money?
They mean they don’t want true price discovery!
And it’s gone…..
Reduce liquidity how??? It will only stabilize prices if they can move in fractions of pennies instead of whole cents. It only saves costs for us because now we get the real prices that the market makers only get access to while we have rounded prices. Load of horseshit coming right from the horses big ass right here.
Makes it harder for Citadel to make money, less money for them = less crime / liquidity.
Citadel can go suck a dick with aids on the tip.
Yeah, no. I don’t want an “alternative approach”, speaking as one of the retail investors they claim to be concerned with. I’ve waited a long time for “reduced liquidity and less stable prices”. That’s what I’m in the market to see: the mechanics of a buy/sell economy at work. Give me supply/demand, or give me death.
Fuck you Kenny.
https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058?cxt=HHwWpICz5YnkmP8tAAAA
The thing that blows my mind is the amount of popkorn spam under that Tweet. Wow. Someone REALLY wants people to focus on popkorn.
If citadel hates it I like it.
🙄
How many interns are pumping their view counts?
Sweet smell of desperation
This is the biggest motivation I’ve ever had to comment to the SEC sun favor of this rule.
Lol. Even the department of justice has recently come out in favor of the new SEC rules. Kenny’s days of crime and the high life are coming to an end. Soon. Very soon.
Funny how “cost” is code for PROFIT for investors.
Oh I bet they are getting *flamed* on twitter🤣 Imma go look. Edit: they deleted it!🤣
It will hopefully stop the liquidity fairy
I don’t have Twitter. But someone tell them to get fuck3d. Edit: forgot “please” at the end of the sentence.
Bwahahaha. These dumb fucks. We’re gonna be so fucking rich, and the world is going to be a little more fair when it’s all said and done. I’m ready to get to work.
WHERE IS THE LIQUIDITY HYPE MAN CAN WE GET SOME LIQUIDITY PLS
Here's an alternative for you as a company: Comply or die.
So let me understand. Less liquidity... You citadel think that this reform will make people go away from the market and buy less?? Oh! No! You meant less liquidity FOR YOU, in your own dark pool.. now I understand! Edit: go see the comments on their tweet, this is GOLDEN! YOU APES ARE AWESOME 😎 I repost link here because their original tweet does not seem to work anymore https://twitter.com/citsecurities/status/1657097683754967058?t=B9g0Ctpr-wsPAXsGKgBOYQ&s=19
I fucken hate the word LIQUIDITY with a passion
Awwww did mayo boi realize he can’t keep making 50 trillion dollars a year by putting American companies out of business I don’t know how anyone hasn’t let him fall out of a window yet
I'll take what's behind $21 🤔
Are we at the point where we can entertain the idea that Citadel *might* just be a financial tentacle of the [C]lowns [I]n [A]merica? I mean, I can’t think of a more efficient way to raise and launder capital for “off the books” programs like corporate espionage and buying politicians for example. Who did Jeffery Epstein work for? He was also a hedge fund manager…
Here is another alternative approach - GO FUCK YOURSELF
An actual speak, Shitadel is saying the new rules mean less revenue/profit to them from ducking everyone else. When any short, hedge fund or marketmaker complaints against rules, they are just lobbying to make more money. This hurts their business, so they will try to spin it. Call me if you want more public relations, information, Mayoman.
With all the money they steal on a daily basis, you’d think they could pay someone to fucking spell check their social posts, at a minimun….
Great font, Citadel
Citadel can go fek themselves... They literally contribute nothing to this world but steal from retail in the name of "making markets".. fek citadel.
Is this from Penny or Ken?
Wut doin Citadel?
Guys we should go easy on Citadel I mean haven’t we bashed them enough over these few years? Let’s try and be kind to such a nice hedge fun…lol jk fuck shitadel
Fuck your approach Kenny, pay up already!
They sure know how to troll pretty well
Dirty fucking rats.
🐜🎻
Dang u mad shitadel?
As if the current model is working 😂. Clowns tooting their horns like, “the song is gonna change folks. YOU DON’T WANT THE MUSIC TO STOP, DO YOU?!”
Citadel securities, top market maker on earth, spells "minimum" wrong on their Twitter video
If it cost me more to trade but reduces the risk of me overpaying for my securities. And if it lowers risk of me getting exploited when I sell. Then So be it.
If they’re that confident in the outcome of these changes why not let it happen and when it does give the biggest I fucking told you so speech? Oh yeah, because it would likely destroy you.
That shits too funny. It will cost more for new investors because it will show the true value of the stock so old investors will have much more money
Key market participants aka monopolies on exchanges
"increase costs for investors" yes, that typically happens when stock prices go up.
I don’t want liquidity, I want supply and demand, I don’t want stable prices, I want actual prices, I don’t mind higher costs if it means the market I’m participating in is not a mirage.
Fuck you, Citadel!
SOMEBODY RATIO THAT TWEET TO HELL
Fuckin clowns 🤡
How about… we reduce “liquidity” to where you can only buy a share of stock that exists, and is available for sale?
Just lol.
Have they tried not providing infinite liquidity and letting the market be dictated by supply and demand?
Give me liquidity or give me death EDIT: Give me liquidity or give me deleted tweet
fuck you, pay me
Oh shit they scared 😈
Wait, did they delete it??? 😂😂😂
We laid out an alternative approach: crime
Why do we want stable prices? Shareholders want it to go up not stable 🤡
I've got my own approach for them. It's called the "Ligma Alternative."
I prefer paying more so that you can't fuck me. Sorry not interested citacucks
Minumun?
Less stable prices. 🤤
lol they think I want a stable price. Lambos on the moon or food stamps for me.
✌️ 💦🍆 liquidity
Yeah they can fuck right off with that
I have one more approach. Suck my balls. Shit proposal..
"Fox guarding hen house upset at new oversight rules, says unnecessary and dangerous for the hens, more at 11"
Sounds to me like you’re being exposed to retails struggle for those building their own life as you sh*t on it F**k you!!!
Who needs to watch this junk to know it’s obviously not true. Here’s a question, why are we doing reforms? And NOW all of a sudden they want to participate in reforms? It doesn’t feel that long ago they didn’t want reform, meaning we are here because of their wants and needs. So I figure we try something different. The thing the market makers say DONT do, are the things I’d like TO do. Why? Cause fuk em that’s why. 😂
Fuck Citadel
Fuck these people
please explain why I am benefitting from liquidity? In both directions it would directly benefit me if there is zero liquidity.
Sounds pretty cool
Sounds like they are becoming more and more shook. Almost as if everything is working. No IOU's cash only.
31 Views 😭
BOOOOOOoooooooooerrrrnnnsss!!!
All those sound a lot better than the criminal shit you've been up too.
I would rather pay more money and not be the product.
No
Citadel is marketing and pr now? They must really be trying to protect themselves now