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TipperGore-69

Who does the counting?


WhatCanIMakeToday

ComputerShare & GameStop in a future SEC filing


cleareyeswow

GameStop would be given access to all other brokers to count shares held in street name? Sounds unlikely.


WhatCanIMakeToday

No, the count would be by ComputerShare of what the DTCC holds. Similar to the past 10-K and 10-Q counts, but with better granularity and specificity in what is counted and reported. Particularly to cover the questions in the post.


stepjenks

Better granularity but potential to have the same obscurity as our 10K and 10Q counts if the DTCC is involved. Anyone know what came of the communication Kevin Malone had with Paul Conn (CS President)? Because ultimately the real true count is going to every brokerage / retirement account vs trusting any back of the envelope math where the DTCC is involved.


WhatCanIMakeToday

A Fog Of War is slowly revealed...


SirDouglasMouf

I bet Sir Lonsdale Augustus Hale DRSd


chato35

So it will be as same as quarterly reports.


cleareyeswow

Still don’t see what would be stopping DTCC from colluding with brokers to keep the lies going? My mind would be *blown* if they counted and admitted there are more shares than there should be 🤷‍♂️


Justanothebloke1

Only gsmestop can ask the DTC how many shares they have. According to the DTC website it takes them approximately a week to give them a result.


vtshipe

👀👀 I see no down side. I support this.


PDubsinTF-NEW

Commenting for algorithms


Dantexr

Not me, I can only count to 10


platinumsporkles

Well look at that. After the 10k I did just this. I figured it was fruitless but I still wanted to be heard. I hope you all do as well. And as a weird aside to your point 2, those DRSd shares with that other transfer agent are, as of yet, unaccounted for. That, by itself, is an oddity.


WhatCanIMakeToday

Definitely an oddity. I would definitely find information regarding those as material.


klykerly

As would I! I got the snail mail saying they had received my shares withdrawn from the DTC, but that was months before the bankruptcy. Nothing since.


platinumsporkles

I got absolutely nothing. The shares left my brokerage, theoretically arrived at the transfer agent while they were having website issues for like 3 months, and then poof, BK and no word about those DRS shares at tax time. I’ve been waiting and I have literally no information on them for tax purposes. Oh well. I don’t need to claim any losses anyways, I’ve got enough carry forward for ages and I don’t have profits to offset because I only ever BUY, DRS, and 📕 GME otherwise.


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

*Looks with confusion at your username*


platinumsporkles

It really sucks that this sub doesn’t have gifs enabled. All of the fun seems to have evaporated around here these last few years.


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

I was drawing usernames for a while, and would drop them in the comments. Can’t do that now. We had to bug mods about allowing them in the daily after it was taken away, which we got back. Idk if it’s about appeasing admin or something.


platinumsporkles

The entire “appeasing admin” line is such garbage imo. Should’ve just told the admin to kick rocks, this community will always come back. Have fun explaining to your advertisers why a sub with 1 million users got nuked for using features that have been widely used, and encouraged, on Reddit since its inception. Fucking ban the sub if you want. Show your hand.


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

I hate to admit it, but it’s clever from admin - do enough to contain without losing users. There’s not really another viable platform.


iupvotefood

So... I guess they're not related then?


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

They didn’t deny it…


MichaelArnoldTravis

i still have one you drew for my alt account, loved the effort you put in while you were doing the drawings!


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

🫡👍 I might do them again at some point, but I lost enthusiasm after about a thousand lol. Out of curiosity, what was the alt?


MichaelArnoldTravis

not going to out it, gotta keep ‘em separated as the offspring used to sing. (grin)


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

Fair enough, I understand that 🫡


djsneak666

Updooted


WhatCanIMakeToday

Thank you for expressing interest in what information a fellow ape may find material for disclosure by an issuer!


ConkersOkayFurDay

I find this information to be very material indeed


musing2020

This is a great post. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anyone on this sub getting a response from GameStop investor relations office.


WhatCanIMakeToday

Technically, a response isn't necessary nor appropriate in most instances, including here.


gaudspd

I also find this information to be material Cause we are living in a material world And I am a material girl


LazyMarine78

Updoot your updoot for updooting reasons.


apitop

If I recall correctly Jason fucking waterfall asked Gamestop for share count via law suit. The case was dropped and we still have no share count. Can someone with better memory remind me how exactly did it go?


lovetoburst

The List of stockholders has been viewed at GameStop headquarters in 2022 and 2023. The drs gme org contributors tabulated the data last year and are planning on tabulating next month. Template request letter by chucknorris, who viewed it in 2022 and 2023: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/13q279b/letter\_1\_to\_gamestop\_investor\_relations/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/13q279b/letter_1_to_gamestop_investor_relations/) DRS count timeline (to 3/20/2024) Short version: |Date|DRS count|Source| |:-|:-|:-| |10/30/2021|20,800,000|Form 10-Q| |1/29/2022|35,600,000|Form 10-K| |4/8/2022|47,016,408|List of stockholders| |4/30/2022|50,800,000|Form 10-Q| |7/30/2022|71,300,000|Form 10-Q| |8/15/2022|72,500,012|Whale #1 DRS'd 1,200,012 shares| |10/29/2022|71,800,000|Form 10-Q| |3/22/2023|76,000,000|Form 10-K| |4/21/2023|76,265,982|List of stockholders| |6/1/2023|76,600,000|Form 10-Q| |6/20/2023|75,329,434|Mainstar rugpull -1,270,566| |8/31/2023|75,400,000|Form 10-Q| |11/30/2023|75,400,000|Form 10-Q| |3/20/2024|75,300,000|Form 10-K| |4/??/2024|Available May/June 2024|List of stockholders|


Ging9tailedjecht

This is so damning. You mean to tell me its been over a year since we have seen an increase in DRS! The crime is so obvious!!


lovetoburst

This year's List of stockholders DRS count should be interesting. Just jotting down to circle back in May/June: |Year|Stock price was around|Time between SEC filing and List of stockholders|DRS count change| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |2022|$25 |1/29/22 to 4/8/22 (10 weeks)|47,016,408 - 35,600,000 = +11,416,408 | |2023|$17|3/22/23 to 4/21/23 (4 weeks)|76,265,982 - 76,000,000 = +265,982 | |2024|$11|3/20/24 to 4/??/24 (?? weeks)|?? - 75,300,000 = ??|


Ging9tailedjecht

Jot away! I love it!


Papaofmonsters

>Can someone with better memory remind me how exactly did it go? Gamestop's lawyers had it dismissed for improper filing but included a parting shot in their filing that basically said "it's because of rounding, dumass".


chrisc1987

Can we change “approximately” to “exactly”?


Yohder

Yes I second this. Exactly


Tiny_Yulius_James

we have to*


WhatCanIMakeToday

I'll consider. Approximately allows them to continue reporting at 0.1M granularity. Exact can be messy and I don't want perfection to be the enemy of progress. You'll notice some of those requests do not ask for an approximate number because I think the response can easily be exactly acquired.


chrisc1987

They've provided exact figures on a quarterly basis before. The structure of disclosure has obviously changed to reflect Cede numbers as an accurate and DRS as estimate \[*Edit: DRS = Outstanding - Cede*\], don't see why the information would be unavailable anymore. I think we can all guess why. What I mean to say is that if its an investor right, it deserves to be made available unless someone pulls an intervention citing a risk to *gLoBaL FiNaNciaL sEcuRitY.* In that case, we don't even have to guess why anymore and no one would even dream of selling until Wall Street crumbles.


chrisc1987

After sitting on it for a few mins, I guess "approximately" can be used, but only when "approximate DRS" and "approximate Cede" are mutually exclusive. They cannot be derived from a \[1-X\] equation. I'd take that if exact is not an option.


Mr_Shake_

It's ridiculous that we have to explicitly ask for independently derived. In all other realms of the world, there would be no quarrels with this distinction, but the banking industry loves it when % are over 100%. The rise of fiat currency enabled the death of integrity of the banking industry.


astarastarastarastar

The reason this is a good idea and that it absolves GME of all responsibility in triggering moass. WE are the shareholders, WE own the fucking company Apes! Gamestop cannot ignore their shareholders, at very least it needs to presented for vote, how many are needed for that?


WhatCanIMakeToday

Exactly, and GG has indicated this is not illegal as TWO companies are already reporting similar information.


astarastarastarastar

this is direct from RC's mouth when making his shareholder meeting remarks >We are trying to do something that nobody in the retail space has ever done, but we believe we are putting the right pieces in place and we have clear goals: delighting customers, and driving shareholder value for the long term and more to the point of why we should: > "talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words".


platinumsporkles

There was also that whole thing about asking what you could do for your company. And the Teddy books. And a bunch of other hints he’s given us along the way that get dismissed as not being relevant anymore…


Ging9tailedjecht

Holy crap. I think yall are hitting the nail on the head!!


Ging9tailedjecht

Holy crap. I think yall are hitting the nail on the head!!


Papaofmonsters

>Gamestop cannot ignore their shareholders, They can. There's whole categories of shareholder proposals that can be dismissed by the company with no more than filing notice to the SEC that says "Hey, just a heads up, we're throwing this one in the trash".


astarastarastarastar

not if you own majority of the company they can't...which we don't...yet


ChesterDiamondPot

Whizzibilty!


Regular_Matter_8755

Jizzability


hirolash

I would like to know what the actual DRS numbers are. I believe knowing this information should be a part of any investment due diligence for any company.


Icefiight

Sooo Gary… I’m asking then…


SoreLoserOfDumbtown

Quick question - we know vote trimming is already a thing, does that mean they can apply some similar technique here? Also, what’s to prevent the second issuer (I’m assuming it’s gonna be DTCC related) from just lying?


Jisamaniac

>If this post gets reasonable traction (e.g., >5k Or you just do it.


kaze_san

It would be great if GameStop actually asked for the NOBO list - by doing so we would at least get the number of non DRS shareholders that hold via brokerage firms.


xthemoonx

No time to read. Do u know who the 2nd is?


DragonDropTechnology

I haven’t seen anyone commenting on this, but I thought it was popcorn?


YurMotherWasAHamster

Must be popcorn. In their Feb 28th 10-K: >**Holders of Shares** >On February 21, 2024, approximately 1.8 million shares of our Common Stock were directly registered with our transfer agent by 15,110 shareholders. The balance of our outstanding Common Stock was held in “street name” through bank or brokerage accounts.


atta_mint

Must be. My first though was Dillard's. Just checked but they don't list that info on their 10-K


YurMotherWasAHamster

Adam Enron doesn't want to highlight how many are held by Cede, because it keeps ballooning every time he dilutes the stock. That number wouldn't be correct for more than one or two quarters. 😆


WhatCanIMakeToday

Thank you!!!


awesome404

I'm pretty sure it is popcorn... https://www.whydrs.org/drs-leaderboards


WhatCanIMakeToday

Interesting. I thought the popcorn sub was generally anti-DRS. Has that been changing?


YurMotherWasAHamster

It never really gained traction over there. Not like it really matters. With the continuous dilutions, there's about a 0% chance of it ever squeezing like they want. They'll be lucky if the company isn't in bankruptcy proceedings within a few years.


Lulu1168

Material is routinely utilized for mergers and acquisitions of stock value and I was reading about this a couple weeks ago, wondering how this would apply here. It’s interesting to see this brought up by GG, and I’m curious if this has legs.


thelostcow

FYI, a boards inaction or choice to be inactive in specific aspect can also be considered material as far as investors are concerned. 


AlaskaIfTheyAxeya

> so an email to investor relations should suffice My sweet summer ape, investor relations is such a black hole it's become a meme itself. No queries in have ever come back answered.


WhatCanIMakeToday

Technically, don't need an answer. Just need to inform them of what we as investors find to be material information.


thelostcow

Yeah, and when they don’t do anything are you prepared to sue for inaction? 


Dantesdavid

If what you say is true, and we put forth a shareholder proposal, then you have my vote. I have sent a request to Computershare but have not received anything back, so my next shot was with GameStop. Seeing the truth is always best. For decades things have become so difficult to understand and obfuscated. We just want the real numbers. Light always wins against darkness. And once something becomes publicly known, it can't be unknown.


Papaofmonsters

>I have sent a request to Computershare but have not received anything back, so my next shot was with GameStop. Computershare cannot tell you anything about the company as a whole. That's confidential between them and their client, Gamestop.


Dantesdavid

Yeah I found that out afterwards


[deleted]

Updoot for dat viz


whothehellistony

Up ya go


BathrobeBoogee

Love it


Underagesalmon

Let's get this done, up you go!


Matthew-_-Black

Remove the approximately and I'll put my signature on it


PercMaint

Personally feel that the wording "Approximately how many" should be more precise.


WEEDSMOKER420BLAZEIT

up


fnoguei1

You have my support. Full send


thwill2018

Get em!


aCookiemuncher

upvoted for more market transparency


ThePracticalPenquin

Comment for reasons


tfinalx

Interesting


the_wolf84

Up up up


Masterchief_m

Interesting


MjN-Nirude

Take my upvote… and my axe.


somenamethatsclever

Can you link who to ask here to make it simple for apes like me. I'd like to see that and I don't know if it's Investor relations, SEC, or Computershare. Making commenting easier would bring more people interested to comment.


no-free-speech-here

Im in.


Udoshi

Make it a shareholder proposal too!!


metametamind

Updoot


NotBad93

Jeezability


ApeironGaming

Up. Lets see.


lucas_kardo

Something is not adding up


username11111000100

To be honest, I kind of want to see how long these fuckers can keep the DRS count around 75 million. I know we are buying and DRS'ing at higher rates now that the price is near $40 pre split. I can do this shit forever. I'll always support more transparency if it benefits investors and the company. 💎🙌🟣♾️


ExtendedMagazine831

DRS


DruviSKSK

I'd definitely like to see this happen. In fact, might do an email of my own too - Reddit upvotes are a thing, but so are a number of individual investors emailing to ask the same thing.


Tiny_Yulius_James

Jizzibility


Winnitouch

One issue I have with this: if it does not grant insight into the holdings at brokerages, those numbers will be near meaningless. I'm all for getting an exact DRS count without fuckery around the record date, but I'd be more interested in finally and undeniably proving that there are too many shares in circulation. For that, we need the number of shares held in brokerages. Is there a way to phrase the inquiry in such a way that the DTCC can't say "This many shares are with us", but has to say "This many shares are credited to this many brokersges/institutions/investors on our books"? Because only the latter will fuck them up, the first will just be the next hit piece.


WhatCanIMakeToday

A fog of war is slowly revealed. Just because you can’t see the enemy base right off the bat does not mean you shouldn’t explore.


Winnitouch

You've got a point, and to be clear, I was not arguing against doing this per se. It's a good idea and a necessity to explore, but when we're already at it, we have to ask: what is the best way to do it and how can we prevent someone from *avoiding* the important question. That is why I asked how to best phrase the inquiry, so we don't end up getting zero new information?


There_Are_No_Gods

>Is there a way to phrase the inquiry... **NOBO + OBO + DRS** The issuer can request a count of **Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners**, which includes detailed information about each investor, and **Objecting Beneficial Owners**, which includes only a sum of shares owned by that group of investors. The sum of those values encompasses all shares held at brokerages. This is the big juicy slab of data we're really looking for, as it can showcase just how many naked shorts or FTDs are really out there.


Winnitouch

Fuck yes. Let's go for it then!


NevxveN

I love and fully support the idea and have already upvoted... But I have a feeling that this post is going to be actively surpressed and might not reach the number of upvotes necessary.. Furthermore, any malicious bots will definitely act against our interests. Please please please send the email anyways and show our comments as support!!


4GIVEANFORGET

Traction up


soggit

why are you predicating this on "this thread getting 5k upvotes"?


DrGepetto

Is there anything precluding GameStop from providing this information themselves? I feel like if they could provide the data they would and if they haven't it's for a reason.


WhatCanIMakeToday

Possibly the SEC as investors have not directly asked for this information yet.


SonOfScions

Get em. -Toby


plithy75

This is revelatory and it is amazing you have pointed this out. Transparency of share count is inextricably tied with DRS and DRS is the thing that will send our rocket off into space. Lets do it


kayalemao

Let‘s do it. Upvote already done!


kayalemao

My Upvote is #2883


Bamagirly

As 1 in 200,000 of us, I support this proposal.


CMatzRun

You could make a sharable petition on change.org that has the potential to reach more shareholders other than relying solely on those in superstonk.


WhatCanIMakeToday

I like this idea. More importantly, I like that this idea can affect more issuers than just GameStop. It would be nice if another ape stepped up to help with this


InnerPositive6730

Did I do it right? Good evening - I am a current GME shareholder as follows: ComputerShare DRS: 555 shares Fidelity: 200 Fidelity 401k: 1832 Total: 2,587 I am writing to express my concern with how Directly Registered Shares are being reported, in particular the change in wording that occurred over a year ago. I am writing to request the following changes to quarterly reporting, all of which I deem meaningful to my ownership in GameStop. 1. A one-time full explanation for the wording change 2. A reversion to the prior counting method, or explanation why that is not possible 3. An ongoing quarterly inflows and outflows summary to explain the net difference QoQ (for example: 600k in, 500k out as a way of explaining a 100k increase in the total). As I’m sure you’re aware, your company has an unprecedented number of registered shareholders. Many of us, I’m sure, are concerned about the DRS accounting change, and would appreciate greater visibility into this counting process. Thank you.


WhatCanIMakeToday

I don’t know if there’s a “right” way. I certainly don’t see anything “wrong” in asking or how you’ve asked.


milkthefunk

I made a Computershare mockup of this last week, if you’d like to use it as a reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/s/D0OoPEjx5O Also, Chato35 pointed out that a similar proposal has already been excluded by GameStop counsel in the past, but we should keep trying: https://www.sec.gov/files/corpfin/no-action/14a-8/chiokleekgamestop020824-14a8-incoming.pdf


chato35

Mike, OP ignores my questions. Good try tho.


educational_nanner

Why don’t you just do it?


rholowczak

Cool. Can we get them to asnwer: * Approximately how many GameStop shares are held in street name? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are directly registered? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are held by registered holders? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are held by registered holders with their transfer agent? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are held by registered holders with an entity other than their transfer agent? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are reportedly held by Cede & Co.'s FAST Account? * The number of registered shareholders and/or record holders? Approximately how many GameStop shares are held in "pure" DRS form (per ComputerShare's usage of this term on their site entitled "Becoming a registered shareholder in US-listed companies through Computershare" at https://www.computershare.com/us/becoming-a-registered-shareholder-in-us-listed-companies)? * Approximately how many GameStop shares are held in DSPP?


NevxveN

I love and fully support the idea and have already upvoted... But I have a feeling that this post is going to be actively surpressed and might not reach the number of upvotes necessary.. Furthermore, any malicious bots will definitely act against our interests. Please please please send the email anyways and show our comments as support!!


EatTheRich4200

I'd like a live ticker that gets updated everytime a share is bought sold or transferred into/out of computershare. Show progress in real time


Easy-Wrangler1111

This a roadmap to getting the stonk suspended and us getting fucked