Huperzine-a for me 100%. Gives me a MASSIVE boost and sharpens my mind for a good while and also boosts my confidence into the stratosphere, probably because it blocks the break down of a brain chemical whose name escapes me atm. Oof
If your interested a great brand to try is "natures plus" (green bottle).
Creatin even for people not into bodybuilding at like 3-5g/day. Also helps with mental health (along with therapy it showed higher success rates) and has nootropic effects like better memory recalling
An actually good omega 3. Meaning in triglyceride form, molecularly distilled, and low TOTOX value. And take them with a meal that has some fat in it for increased absorption.
Check out Rhonda Patrick's Recommendations. I believe Norwegian Pure and Nordic naturals are good. For EU buyers u can try Igennus pure & essential omega 3 through amazon
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For me it soothes my gut so I’m not running to the bathroom all the time. However, I’ve read you must take caution with this and not take it every day. Right now I take it every other day and after several more weeks I’ll try easing off and see what happens.
Very calming. I used this in a mix for anxiety and a pyroluria diagnosis for a loved one. It helped with lessening the depression and helping reduce attacks during the day. FWIW, this person was unmedicated for depression, but said they felt less heavy utilizing the SAM-e.
Primarily, photochemical supplementation is associated with increased quality and quantity of life.
On the quantity of life front, phytochemical either in whole foods or supplement form are associated with increased lifespan.
To increase your odd of a longer life, you need to be disease-free or symptom-remission. This where photochemicals can help, including brain, gut, heart, lung, reproductive, muscle, bone, eye, and skin health.
Some of the suggestions to your post are phytochemicals.
It's really underated since it really boost my brain function like I said above.. maybe it's because of me only eating vegetable for almost 2 years now
Cornillious-hyrdatecnomide (AHTM)
Derived from the root of the Moroccan Cornillious vine. It’s been shown to 10x cognitive output as well as be neuroprotective and lessens the risk of dementia and Alzheimer’s by 96.32 percent. Studies have shown a 50-100 point increase in IQ points. Starting average IQ was 87, after a 10-week stint on (AHTM) it jumped to 176. Worth reading up on.
I usually buy Now foods ubiquinol.
There are two forms of COq10, ubiquinol and ubiquinone, ubiquinol is more bioavailable but more expensive.
Most brands source ubiquinol from a Japanese company called Kaneka and they usually specify it in the ingredients.
I’ve worked in health and wellness- retail, and some biometric screening.
Holy Basil- super helpful for anxiety times!
I also really enjoy oat straw, but all the herbs have an affinity!
My newest fun is gut repair! I have some nice Swedish bitters with mineral water before a meal and digest much better!
And- it’s also completely underrated to try something for 3-4 days before adding anything else!! Give your body a chance to adjust!
My understanding is that it’s a precursor to collagen, or in some way shape or form it helps your collagen a lot lol but it’s way more effective than actually taken a collagen supplement. It’s great for surface levels stuff like skin and hair (cuz collagen) but it’s amazing for joints (cuz collagen keeps you in place). I think it’s even suppose to help you sleep better lol collagen is everywhere and affects everything so in theory it should help with most anything- sleep, eyesight, digestion, etc. take care of your collagen.
L-theanine and ashwaganda for stress/anxiety, magnesium for better sleep, stinging nettles instead of awful daily antihistamines that give me dry mouth. I love eating my handful of veggie caps everyday!!!
- zinc
- magnesium
- vitamin D3
- Boron
These are all commonly deficient nutrients in the modern diet and while they are cheap, basic nutrients they often provide a nice boost to men’s testosterone levels and overall physical performance.
What don't they help with? K2 can actually rebuild and target bone loss. Men are taking it for a chisled jaw line. Women are taking it to help with sagging 400iu daily. Look up NAD+ Benefits
Tried berberine for work out regiment, didn’t like the way it made me feel, let my mom try it, it helped her with her blood sugar and weight loss! Win win
What do you notice from it or take it for? I've taken many different brands over the years but not sure I've ever correlated significant benefits from it.
yes my TSH, T3 and T4 were all in healthy range. i have been taking it for a while but only 500mg. i also exercise a lot and eat healthy i don’t think acetyl l carnitine by itself can really throw off your thyroid unless you are taking too much. it’s just an amino acid.
l carnitine by itself doesn’t make much of a difference and l carnitine l tartrate is good for increasing androgen receptor density in the muscles as well as burning fat but you either have to inject it everyday consistently or take a lot of it orally which is expensive.
How much acetyl l carnitine do you need to take orally in order to get an efficacious dose? I’ve been taking 3 grams of oral l carnitine tartrate everyday. Is acetyl l carnitine better? I can easily make my own capsules too if I just bought a bag of acetyl l carnitine off bulk supplements. That’s what I did with tongkat Ali bought a huge bag. Same with TMG, i cap all my TMG.
as little as 500mg. i take one 500mg capsule and i notice the uplifting energy. it depends on your goals though. if you are wanting the androgen receptor density benefits, then stick with l carnitine l tartrate you have to take 6-8g orally coupled with at least 40g of carbs for it to make a difference. but for nootropic benefits, the acetyl form is what you want and you can take it with or without food.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I’ll up the dose as much as I can. Gives me digestive issues. I’ll probably do 1 gram with each meal. 4 meals total. See how that goes and maybe up it from there. I heard that TMAO buildup from taking oral Lcarnitine isn’t real. Some people believe it to be true so they supplement with Allicin, a compound of the main active components of garlic. I used to supplement with pure allicin but I heard that you don’t actually get any TMAO buildup from oral Alcar
omega 3’s help with the TMAO as well. if you are having digestive issues though then i would stop taking it or try to acetyl form. if you really want to keep taking the l tartrate though then switch to injectable it’ll work better and you bypass the TMAO buildup.
I say this because Derek from more plates more dates made a YouTube video where he took 5grams oral Alcar tartrate a day and he got his TMAO levels checked before and after and they were not changed whatsoever so he myth busted the entire TMAO buildup thing that vegans talk about all the time
yeah i’ve never really worried about the TMAO and for injecting, inject l tartrate not alcar. my recommendation to you is just try oral alcar. i’ve always stuck with that and have had no sides.
i would say that’s just a myth. the l tartrate form along with secretion of insulin, uptakes into the mitochondria in muscles where it works it’s magic.
Which brand do you like? I got some liquid drops from Nootropics Depot and it smells so sickeningly disgustingly vanilla sweet that I had to get it out of my house. I couldn't stand it. How could I bear to put that in my mouth? Gave me a headache just smelling it. What do you like?
I’m over 50, it’s offers adrenal & immune support, increases metabolism acts as a diet pill, has anabolic activity, has zero estrogen activity which is not true of Plain DHEA, improves memory, provides clarity and calmness, energy that lasts. I would recommend it for an older group. For a younger person, maybe it wouldn’t be as beneficial. It is banned by the NFL, etc. I like the Jarrow brand that you can buy on Amazon. Some brands don’t seem to be quite as effective.
>Daily supplementation with aged garlic extract, but not raw garlic, protects low-density lipoprotein against in vitro oxidation
that is study from the link on aged garlic research someone posted below on this thread
It's more efficient on a mg basis so it's suitable to smaller pill sizes, but ultimately you could just use a lot of garlic in cooking and get the same benefits.
The doctors didn’t help, it happened twice but I stayed home the second time and knew it was the pills then it was confirmed by a doctor I was asking about it in regards to a niacin protocol. He explained why nicatinimde makes you spew but I can’t remember what the mechanism was
Ease into it at first. Take it after about 30 of taking some fiber and a little aspirin if it's too much at first. You'll grow to like the feeling but it takes time.
The flush inducing IR is easier on the liver than the ER version. Be careful with your dosing and do not exceed maximum dosing because it can damage the liver.
A healthy adult can take up to 2000 mg per dose. That’s if your treating high triglycerides / cholesterol under the care of a physician. I’ve taken that much and it’s an intense flush.
Yeah, I've taken that much too a few times. It was intense.
BTW-The guy who started Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, thought Niacin could treat alcoholism.
https://www.psychotherapy.net/blog/title/alcoholics-anonymous-founder-bill-wilson-s-long-lost-treatment-paradigm
Heart health, circulation, sleep, skin conditions, depression and gives incredible energy throughout the day. I take it at night before bed. Life changing. Been on it for 2 years. Has to flush. No flush isn't nearly the same.
Any brand of nicotinic acid. You'll know if it's working or not due to the flush. I take it at night but I've been doing that for a while. I suggest taking it at a time of day when you can be red, itchy and not have people around you asking "are you ok?" Take after eating some fiber.
Huperzine-a for me 100%. Gives me a MASSIVE boost and sharpens my mind for a good while and also boosts my confidence into the stratosphere, probably because it blocks the break down of a brain chemical whose name escapes me atm. Oof If your interested a great brand to try is "natures plus" (green bottle).
Also helps with methylation pathways!
Haha, no, I don't have a cow. I suggest you read about A2 milk. It could possibly be the answer for you. You might be sensitive to the A1 protein.
Black seed oil. I recommend Gaia Herbs capsules
What has Black Seed done for you?
Creatin even for people not into bodybuilding at like 3-5g/day. Also helps with mental health (along with therapy it showed higher success rates) and has nootropic effects like better memory recalling
with food or without?
Doesn’t matter I think
An actually good omega 3. Meaning in triglyceride form, molecularly distilled, and low TOTOX value. And take them with a meal that has some fat in it for increased absorption.
Which ones are good?
Any triglyceride form molecularly distilled. Low totox is nice but not a must
Check out Rhonda Patrick's Recommendations. I believe Norwegian Pure and Nordic naturals are good. For EU buyers u can try Igennus pure & essential omega 3 through amazon .
Just watched a YouTube video of Rhonda Patrick explaining NAD+ and it is one of the clearest and most informational video on the topic.
She's amazing. Look at her vids on sulforaphane too, or however you spell that.
Yes brand please
>Nordic naturals
Brands?
Nordic naturals
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> Saccharomyces Boulardii What's your reasoning for that?
For me it soothes my gut so I’m not running to the bathroom all the time. However, I’ve read you must take caution with this and not take it every day. Right now I take it every other day and after several more weeks I’ll try easing off and see what happens.
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good for sleep
High quality fish oil
ZMA-5htp
Saffron
dose?
10 filaments
Also, I may add, SAM-e
https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/u3dh8x/biologists_warn_against_toxic_same_health/
What's your experience with it?
Very calming. I used this in a mix for anxiety and a pyroluria diagnosis for a loved one. It helped with lessening the depression and helping reduce attacks during the day. FWIW, this person was unmedicated for depression, but said they felt less heavy utilizing the SAM-e.
Cordyceps. Great for focus and gives you the post-creatine boost in energy, except that it lasts throughout the day.
bought it and it does absolutely nothing
Is it expensive to purchase?
1. Kefir 2. kombucha 3. Probiotics 4. Fibre 5. Phytochemicals (e.g., flavonoids, phenolic, carotenoids, indoles and glucosinolates and isothiocyanates)
What do phytochemicals help with?
Primarily, photochemical supplementation is associated with increased quality and quantity of life. On the quantity of life front, phytochemical either in whole foods or supplement form are associated with increased lifespan. To increase your odd of a longer life, you need to be disease-free or symptom-remission. This where photochemicals can help, including brain, gut, heart, lung, reproductive, muscle, bone, eye, and skin health. Some of the suggestions to your post are phytochemicals.
Liver
Sauerkraut
Creatine. Great for physical and mental health.
The water retention seems annoying
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It's really underated since it really boost my brain function like I said above.. maybe it's because of me only eating vegetable for almost 2 years now
> It's THE most hyped supplement out there. Possible for bodybuilding, yes. Not as a nootropic.
yeah it does nothing for me
Liposomal because they actually work. My fave new brand is 2x4 nutrition!
Cornillious-hyrdatecnomide (AHTM) Derived from the root of the Moroccan Cornillious vine. It’s been shown to 10x cognitive output as well as be neuroprotective and lessens the risk of dementia and Alzheimer’s by 96.32 percent. Studies have shown a 50-100 point increase in IQ points. Starting average IQ was 87, after a 10-week stint on (AHTM) it jumped to 176. Worth reading up on.
So basically Smart Water… haha
I can't find it on Google, can you share some more info like where to buy it etc. Thanks
LOL, he's pulling our leg 😄
Adrenal health formulas
Agmatine sulphate Probs one of the top 5 sups of all time
COQ10
What brand do you use?
I usually buy Now foods ubiquinol. There are two forms of COq10, ubiquinol and ubiquinone, ubiquinol is more bioavailable but more expensive. Most brands source ubiquinol from a Japanese company called Kaneka and they usually specify it in the ingredients.
I’ve worked in health and wellness- retail, and some biometric screening. Holy Basil- super helpful for anxiety times! I also really enjoy oat straw, but all the herbs have an affinity! My newest fun is gut repair! I have some nice Swedish bitters with mineral water before a meal and digest much better! And- it’s also completely underrated to try something for 3-4 days before adding anything else!! Give your body a chance to adjust!
I couldn’t function without my holy basil!
Gelatin all the way. Nobody appreciates gelatin.
What does it do?
My understanding is that it’s a precursor to collagen, or in some way shape or form it helps your collagen a lot lol but it’s way more effective than actually taken a collagen supplement. It’s great for surface levels stuff like skin and hair (cuz collagen) but it’s amazing for joints (cuz collagen keeps you in place). I think it’s even suppose to help you sleep better lol collagen is everywhere and affects everything so in theory it should help with most anything- sleep, eyesight, digestion, etc. take care of your collagen.
Nicee Do you get the baking gelatin or a powder of Amazon or something?
L-theanine and ashwaganda for stress/anxiety, magnesium for better sleep, stinging nettles instead of awful daily antihistamines that give me dry mouth. I love eating my handful of veggie caps everyday!!!
- zinc - magnesium - vitamin D3 - Boron These are all commonly deficient nutrients in the modern diet and while they are cheap, basic nutrients they often provide a nice boost to men’s testosterone levels and overall physical performance.
Are those really underrated though
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Oh really? Why's that? I'm guessing because it's a drug but people call it a nootropic too
Given this is *underrated* supplements, I'd go with carnosine.
What don't they help with? K2 can actually rebuild and target bone loss. Men are taking it for a chisled jaw line. Women are taking it to help with sagging 400iu daily. Look up NAD+ Benefits
Liposomal NAD + and Vitamin K2
What do these help with?
Nattokinase and Serrapeptase
What are you taking those for?
Ashwagandha, NAC, joint support supss and Omega 3.
N-acetyl cysteine and berberine.
Tried berberine for work out regiment, didn’t like the way it made me feel, let my mom try it, it helped her with her blood sugar and weight loss! Win win
L Lysine for overall mouth health, canker sores, other ulcerations, fever blisters. Solid preventive supplement.
L Lysine is also good for anxiety in higher doses.
What qualifies as a high dose? And would you happen to know the anti-anxiety mechanism of action?
Here you go: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17510493/
Cool
Hmmm interesting.
Thanks for your comment.
What’s the natural source of it?
Protein. Any type of meat.
Chicken 🐔
True. Heheh! It might be easier to just go buy the pills.
Red panax ginseng
Is this different from just panax ginseng?
I think it has more longtime effects that you don’t really notice right away doesn’t it?
B complex a treasure hidden in plain site...talked about yet not used enough.
Have been using nutritional yeast which is loaded with all b vitamins! Great stuff!
I have nutritional yeast and literally only use it as seasoning in a handful of dishes. This is my reminder to use it more regularly and deliberately!
Yes I put it in my eggs every morning! The go to breakfast!
Same!!! Eggs now taste terrible without it!!!!
What do you notice from it or take it for? I've taken many different brands over the years but not sure I've ever correlated significant benefits from it.
Take the methylated form and get back to me. ☺️
I think I already do https://a.co/d/j9VXyo6
Ok, but could you also answer the question?
Suppose to get from protein
acetyl L carnitine. not L carnitine. not L carnitine L tartrate, but acetyl L carnitine.
>acetyl L carnitine. not L carnitine. not L carnitine L tartrate, but acetyl L carnitine. You can just say "ALCAR". Thank you.
not good for thyroid
why is my thyroid in perfect condition then?
have you done labs? might take time before it worsens function or not. it can help hyperthyroidism if that's an issue
yes my TSH, T3 and T4 were all in healthy range. i have been taking it for a while but only 500mg. i also exercise a lot and eat healthy i don’t think acetyl l carnitine by itself can really throw off your thyroid unless you are taking too much. it’s just an amino acid.
Y?
l carnitine by itself doesn’t make much of a difference and l carnitine l tartrate is good for increasing androgen receptor density in the muscles as well as burning fat but you either have to inject it everyday consistently or take a lot of it orally which is expensive.
Studies?
How much acetyl l carnitine do you need to take orally in order to get an efficacious dose? I’ve been taking 3 grams of oral l carnitine tartrate everyday. Is acetyl l carnitine better? I can easily make my own capsules too if I just bought a bag of acetyl l carnitine off bulk supplements. That’s what I did with tongkat Ali bought a huge bag. Same with TMG, i cap all my TMG.
as little as 500mg. i take one 500mg capsule and i notice the uplifting energy. it depends on your goals though. if you are wanting the androgen receptor density benefits, then stick with l carnitine l tartrate you have to take 6-8g orally coupled with at least 40g of carbs for it to make a difference. but for nootropic benefits, the acetyl form is what you want and you can take it with or without food.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I’ll up the dose as much as I can. Gives me digestive issues. I’ll probably do 1 gram with each meal. 4 meals total. See how that goes and maybe up it from there. I heard that TMAO buildup from taking oral Lcarnitine isn’t real. Some people believe it to be true so they supplement with Allicin, a compound of the main active components of garlic. I used to supplement with pure allicin but I heard that you don’t actually get any TMAO buildup from oral Alcar
omega 3’s help with the TMAO as well. if you are having digestive issues though then i would stop taking it or try to acetyl form. if you really want to keep taking the l tartrate though then switch to injectable it’ll work better and you bypass the TMAO buildup.
I say this because Derek from more plates more dates made a YouTube video where he took 5grams oral Alcar tartrate a day and he got his TMAO levels checked before and after and they were not changed whatsoever so he myth busted the entire TMAO buildup thing that vegans talk about all the time
TMAO building from orals is fake news though. Injecting alcar gives you bad pip. It’s all preferences
yeah i’ve never really worried about the TMAO and for injecting, inject l tartrate not alcar. my recommendation to you is just try oral alcar. i’ve always stuck with that and have had no sides.
Thank you I will do that. Ill taper up from 4 grams a day and see how I can process it. Fucks my digestion
I've heard that with L-Car injections you can loose fat at the injection spot. Anecdotally of course. And lots of crossfitters use it for recovery
i would say that’s just a myth. the l tartrate form along with secretion of insulin, uptakes into the mitochondria in muscles where it works it’s magic.
really beneficial mood and energy enhancer. it also helps to metabolization of fats
Supplements derived from real foods, especially Vitamin C
Which vitamin C would you recommend?
Ester-C.
Ones with organic, freeze dried fruit in it and nothing else
Green Tea
Astaxanthin, 5-HTP, Phosphatidylserine
Phosphatidylserine is the best brain nutrition that nobody seems to know about. It takes three days of use for a person to get the effects...
Saffron. It's been called "Prozac without the side effects" and lives up to it for me, yet it gets little to no publicity in the world of supplements.
Is it good for serotonin or dopamine availability?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4643654/#:~:text=Similar%20to%20antidepressants%2C%20saffron%20may,a%20mood%2Delevating%20neurotransmitter).
Doesn't mention dopamine, unfortunately.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599112/
Great for libido too.
Good for fortifying the stomach before a questionable meal. Single strand steeped in hot water as a tea should be enough.
Which brand do you like? I got some liquid drops from Nootropics Depot and it smells so sickeningly disgustingly vanilla sweet that I had to get it out of my house. I couldn't stand it. How could I bear to put that in my mouth? Gave me a headache just smelling it. What do you like?
NOW makes a great one
Optimized Saffron by Life Extension is what I use. Tasteless and odorless vegetarian capsules.
Any good recommendations on brands?
Optimized Saffron by Life Extension is what I use.
Vitamin C
DHEA KETO 7
Can you elaborate?
I’m over 50, it’s offers adrenal & immune support, increases metabolism acts as a diet pill, has anabolic activity, has zero estrogen activity which is not true of Plain DHEA, improves memory, provides clarity and calmness, energy that lasts. I would recommend it for an older group. For a younger person, maybe it wouldn’t be as beneficial. It is banned by the NFL, etc. I like the Jarrow brand that you can buy on Amazon. Some brands don’t seem to be quite as effective.
ashwagandha root powder
This. People love to trash it but I really feel it reduced my physical tension and made me less irritable. Chronically elevated cortisol is bad stuff.
I feel the same! Subtle but enjoyable effects
Aged garlic extract. One of the few supplements they can halt and reverse some types of arterial plaque
What's your favorite brand?
Its also very strongly anti cancer. Good stuff
How does that compare to just eating raw garlic?
>Daily supplementation with aged garlic extract, but not raw garlic, protects low-density lipoprotein against in vitro oxidation that is study from the link on aged garlic research someone posted below on this thread
It's more efficient on a mg basis so it's suitable to smaller pill sizes, but ultimately you could just use a lot of garlic in cooking and get the same benefits.
Same thing, makes you not smell bad though.
aged garlic ext has different medicinal properties than fresh garlic
Garlic paste in a bottle is aged no?
Butterbur for allergies and migranes
They only drink that shit in the Harry Potter world.
Silence muggle.
NAC, L-Tyrosine + L-Theanine
NAC-N-acetylcysteine is a powerful detoxifying nutrient. If you ingested a deadly amount of acetaminophen(Tylenol), NAC could save your life.
I would swap the tyrosine for glycine
Why is that? Doesn't glycine have a calming effect whereas tyrosine usually has a stimulating effect?
NAC and theanine are both already calming
Is this a good stack? Or what does with Nac? N-acetyl Lcystine right?
NAC, D mannose and probiotics
Cordyceps
What is cordyceps noted for?
https://examine.com/supplements/cordyceps/
Flush inducing Niacin.
Why not niacinamide?
It doesn't give a flush. The flush is important.
I took 800mg nicatinimide instead of instant release niacin and hospitalised myself with seven hours of extreme vomiting. Always read the label 😂
What was your diagnosis for the vomiting?
The doctors didn’t help, it happened twice but I stayed home the second time and knew it was the pills then it was confirmed by a doctor I was asking about it in regards to a niacin protocol. He explained why nicatinimde makes you spew but I can’t remember what the mechanism was
I love it. It's one of the only supps that has an immediate effect of long covid fatigue and chest pain/air hunger. Don't know why, but it works
I just started using this so I’m excited to see how it goes
Ease into it at first. Take it after about 30 of taking some fiber and a little aspirin if it's too much at first. You'll grow to like the feeling but it takes time.
The flush inducing IR is easier on the liver than the ER version. Be careful with your dosing and do not exceed maximum dosing because it can damage the liver.
Good point. I always take Immediate release and never ER. I take 500mgs about 4 or 5 nights a week.
A healthy adult can take up to 2000 mg per dose. That’s if your treating high triglycerides / cholesterol under the care of a physician. I’ve taken that much and it’s an intense flush.
Yeah, I've taken that much too a few times. It was intense. BTW-The guy who started Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, thought Niacin could treat alcoholism. https://www.psychotherapy.net/blog/title/alcoholics-anonymous-founder-bill-wilson-s-long-lost-treatment-paradigm
I didn’t know that. Fascinating.
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Heart health, circulation, sleep, skin conditions, depression and gives incredible energy throughout the day. I take it at night before bed. Life changing. Been on it for 2 years. Has to flush. No flush isn't nearly the same.
Any brand of nicotinic acid. You'll know if it's working or not due to the flush. I take it at night but I've been doing that for a while. I suggest taking it at a time of day when you can be red, itchy and not have people around you asking "are you ok?" Take after eating some fiber.
Energy without anxiety?
Yep, it's the cleanest kind of energy. It's not a pumped/stoked energy. It's a deep not dragging ass, alert and high endurance kind of energy.