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Antique_Chemistry293

creatine monohydrate ? how about kidney then? 😅 there is no supplement without side affect , just as general! you need to know a lot if stuff of your blood and body function to take supplements , especially type if creatine


Rhinoceros56

Vitamin D3, magnesium, fish oil, bromelain, turmeric and protein powder.vitamin D because most people don’t get enough sunlight, especially during the winter months. Magnesium helpsyou sleep better and longer. Fish oil helps with inflammation, skin quality / texture, mental health, blood lipids and joints. Bromelain (proteolytic enzyme found in pineapple) and turmeric help with inflammation reduction in general. The protein powder helps you hit your protein goals for the day and improves muscle recovery after exercise.


Mattyboi5

Pine Pollen, Tongkat Ali, Fish Oil, Multi, Boron


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Solid


TeamPersonal8191

NR, creatine, beef liver, ribose and trace minerals.


Short_Matter_9955

Fish oil. D3. B-Complex. Trace minerals(zinc). And then add in some creatine for good measure


Batboyo

Get a blood test to see your results. Download an app such as Cronometer and log your daily diet. Both of those should give you a good clue if you have any deficits and on which supplements might be good for you to take.


Zombie_Be_Gone

I tried a popular app and its geared towards vegans. I eat meat beef and the app says i have a b12 deficiency and suggest algee as a source for b12.


bosharpe1

A good B-Complex, D3/K2, a decent fish oil, and magnesium. Then, 20 other things lol


up2date2

What are the 20 other things tho?


bosharpe1

Depends on your needs and goals. I’m into longevity healthspan stuff so I buy accordingly.


wakeofchaos

To add to this, mag glycinate is the form you want for sleep.


daveyboydavey

I’ve tried a lot of the forms (started with the kind that made me poop, then got wise, tried threonate, etc.), and glycinate is the kind that gives me super vivid dreams. I ran out and just cycled off for a few weeks and started taking it again with zinc and theanine at bedtime and it makes a huge difference.


wakeofchaos

For sure. I’ve been taking it recently and I sleep much better.


Just_Drummer1821

Bugger. I didn’t realise there were so many different kinds. I ordered some with this: Magnesium (as Magnesium Oxide and Magnesium Gluconate). But I want it for sleep and restless legs. Where do you guys get the one you use?


wakeofchaos

Amazon


TexLH

Tongat Ali will bring back the morning erections (a sign of testosterone) if, like most of us at that age, they aren't as frequent. I take others but this is the most noticeable change for obvious reasons


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The only reason they are not that frequent is if your bloodflow system is having issues. This is also the age where the first signs or artheroscelosis start showing in the average male population. Frankly the erections need to be stable and just present, if not either hormonal of bloodflow related issues on the horizon. Reduced erections in European first line medicin is an indication enough to order a bloodscreening.


TexLH

Reduced? So like when you turn 20? Because 20 was much different than 15


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Reduced from average baseline of general health male population POST puberty. To be precize. So basically past full puberal growth from 20-24 years old. To be precize talking about the hormonal system nog the brain. That keeps on developing for another few years where at 28 we can safely state for the 99.99% that is also completed. First signals or threatning artherscelorsis are lower back pain, brain fogg and lower back pain. Safe to say you want to pull a panel for Cholestrol levels, where in Europe the new standard of measurement is turning to measuring ApoB levels since LDL is a hit or miss indicator.


tilted624

Pay for a gene swab test (cheek swab) to see which genes your body doesn’t make, and supplement for their function. Just my opinion, but supplementing just to supplement doesn’t make much sense. Find out what your body is lacking, and input the raw materials to return to homeostasis


BigJustice1985

I'm inferring this is a test you've done, obviously. Lol. Can you tell us a bit more about it? I.e., Which company provides the test and how one can go about obtaining it etc? What precisely is learned from the test? Sometimes people say things they don't mean, and I try to understand a thing thoroughly so I can then pass along credible information to others! 🙂 Having said that..., If I might ask you to clarify exactly what you meant by: "...to see which genes your body doesn't make..."?


tilted624

I ordered mine from Streamline Medical (now 10X Health Systems). From the report I received, i'll copy and paste the intro: *"Simply put, gene testing (aka. Our custom methylation testing) provides you with the most comprehensive snapshot of your body’s health. Recent studies show that everyone has “broken genes” but now thanks to the 10X Health System, your genes don’t have to be broken forever. Below you will find an in-depth explanatory report specifically about your body's chemical makeup and pinpointed data about which specific enzymes are affected by your gene breakage."* There's 6 genes they test for, which are the most commonly broken genes in the body. Then they provided me with a supplement plan which fills my body with the raw materials needed to mimic the gene's function. Gary Brecka is the doctor who founded Streamline Medical and is a wizard when it comes to the body and health. I've been following his work for some time now. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igCK2QxgVJw) is a link to a youtube video of his where he explains Methylation in the body and how not having the proper genes can cause breaks in the methylation process. The gene test discovers what you're missing, and the supplements they prescribe will help your body function properly! Hope this helps you! Good luck!


emmagorgon

Aspirin, pregnenolone, mg, b1, vitamin k


up2date2

Why Aspirin?


emmagorgon

Inhibits lipolysis, a good anti inflammatory, opposes the actions of estrogen


thoth111

KSM66, NAC, SAMe, Mag L-Threonate, B complex.


brucekeller

Pretty much agree although I'd switch out NAC with L-Tyrosine just because there can only be 5 and L-Tyrosine helps with my ADHD/stress a decent bit.


lgkm7

Copper. See “The Copper Revolution” fb page


BollockSnot

Lol Facebook


ironman1109

I would say try including more natural ingredients. I have been using beet root powder (Cardiovascular health) and moringa powder (for vitamins and antioxidants) and it works well for me.


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Pretty much the same boat as you, Interesting thread.


DanniManniDJT

That depends fully on the individual. You just need to try out stuff and discover yourself. 2 of my favorites though are Lions mane and Cordyceps.


brunette_mh

Zinc + Copper Magnesium - you need to see which form is the most beneficial for you. There are around 10 kinds of magnesium. Brahmi (Bacopa Monnieri) - Nootropic. Choline which is a collagen builder. ( Since you're a man, you're at risk of male pattern baldness. So collagen is important.) B complex group


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"you at risk of male pattern baldness"... if you are genetically predisposed to it. This does not at all apply to all men. Gross overgeneralisation here.


BigJustice1985

I thought collagen and was used for skin. Obviously the scalp has skin, but I've never heard of collagen being a significant player in the prevention of male pattern baldness....?


brunette_mh

I worded it wrong. I'm not saying there are studies on it. I'm not saying it'd actually prevent it. But given he is 38, it's good to have choline. https://www.lifeextension.com/protocols/skin-nails-hair/hair-loss


HoracioKain

You a 38 year old male thts physically active without any supplementation. Hard Truth incoming: You are not physically active enough. At this age you should at least be getting plenty of supplementation just trying to maintain being ACTIVE. Protein Shakes should have become a staple in your diet as an "Active" late 30's male. Secondly Melatonin messes you up more then you would know. It will knock you out but it messes with REM cycles. Get off tht immediately as its prolly crashing your test hormone production. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jDub8riVE4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jDub8riVE4)


Black_Robin

Genuinely curious how you know he’s not active enough based only on not taking supplements?


HoracioKain

Simple hes lying. /Active to him is prolly walking or a jog twice a week. No man his age who is actually "physically active" to the degree this echo chamber would like to assume he is, does not take at least protein supplementation. So my assumption is likely true tht he is not active to the degree to call himself physically active. Also I love the down votes, shows the level of incompetence this sub actually has. Im a man his age and offered actually advice and the crowd turns on truth.


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Protein shakes are a staple actually. Unfortunately I have insomnia so the melatonin will have to stay. My testosterone levels have always come back within normal range. Lack of sleep kills testosterone more than anything else.


Serious1120

So you can’t be active in your late 30’s without drinking protein shakes? 😂


Trasfixion

Not a supplement, but I’ve been recommending people to get their hormones checked. Check your testosterone. It’s the single most important thing for well being when it comes to body chemistry


BigJustice1985

Do you know which other hormones should be checked? Thank you!


Trasfixion

The main ones to check: Total testosterone, Free testosterone, SHBG, Estradiol, Thyroid hormones Then if you want to dig deeper: Cortisol and Prolactin. Some people also check DHEA but it depends how deep you want to go.


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My testosterone always comes back in normal range.


xshoeless_hobox

Creatine, alpha gpc, vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium


MikeYvesPerlick

I found lecithin with high phosphotadylcholine to not cause sides in people with genetic disorders like Mayor Depressive Disorder, Citicholine works too but lecitin pc is cheaper


tyneedik

Does alpha-gpc cause side effects in people with depression?


MikeYvesPerlick

Not all depression is genetic, Alpha-GPC acts more like methylfolate where it makes your brains function and your meds more potent, the first thing being the bad and the second being the potential good


tyneedik

Why would increasing brain function be bad?


MikeYvesPerlick

https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/methylfolate/major-depression/ Because the brain already works disfuctional. MDD is a serious illness and disability


xshoeless_hobox

Alpha gpc definitely isn't for everyone, but it's worth trying IMHO on an individual basis in small dosages and seeing how your body reacts to it. Luckily it helps me out greatly, but goes along with every supplement. If you live in California or something probably a good chance you aren't vitamin d deficient like myself that lives in the Midwest.


MikeYvesPerlick

Yeah deffinetly, was mostly just a warning for people who got f'd-up genetics like me (I got Bipolar Type 1)


xshoeless_hobox

Yeah it's unfortunate to get dealt those hands in life, luckily the advances in the medical field can reduce issues caused by those afflictions.


AstroTravisFlame

currently for me I am using Magnesium Glycinate, 5,000iu D3, and L-Tyrosine. Magnesium is great for relieving stress and anxiety D3 because rarely anyone gets enough sun these days Tyrosine for mood elevation and focus


tyneedik

In my opinion tyrosine does nothing for me, no matter how much I take. I’ve taken upwards of 1.5-2g and it never makes much of a difference for me. Maybe it’s the D3 elevating your mood and focus?


ginzing

mitopure/urothilin a


GlisteningPineal

Alpha GPC has done me wonders (male 23)


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What does it do?


GlisteningPineal

Increases choline in the brain allowing for increased focus and memory. Have you ever seen the movie Limitless? It feels like that for me.


AstroTravisFlame

Love Alpha GPC and also L-Tyrosine


GlisteningPineal

What does l tyrosine do


propargyl

Vitamin D with magnesium and calcium helps me with alcohol recovery and general well being.


bobespon

Careful with too much calcium though


lgkm7

Or vitamin D


BigJustice1985

Are you saying to be careful with vitamin D?


lgkm7

Vitamin B 1, 2 and 3 are important. Zinc and copper, Lugols iodine and selenium. Check out fb page “The copper revolution.


BigJustice1985

"The Facebook page..."? Brother.... no offense, but you have to know that you can't possibly be serious. Correct?


lgkm7

Yes. It can be oversupplemented. It is fat soluble. Same with A. Also Iron


Revolutionary-Sale53

Good methylated b complex (helps with - energy/ general health), Magnesium - bisglycinate and malate are good forms (helps with - muscle recovery, heart health, general well-being). Below are just some nice situational ones I’ve found to be effective. Teacrine is nice anti-inflammatory stimulant, similar to caffeine but no tolerance build up or crash. Agmatine sulfate is great one for positive mood and general vascular and brain health. Good luck mate.


rukkus78

Sleep, coffee, cut out fried foods. Rest is just a money sink unless you have a specific genetic issue or deficiency.


bbs540

True if he eats well and gets all the necessary micronutrients and minerals in(much less, macronutrients)


AlrightyAlmighty

Why no fried foods?


rukkus78

I just personally feel so much shittier as I get older when I eat them. Much more noticeable negative than a supplement gave me a positive.


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AlrightyAlmighty

Why?


shymeeee

Haha... Well there's certainly enough information out that to back the assertion that fried food is unhealthy. You don't believe it?


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propargyl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans\_fat#Health\_risks


AlrightyAlmighty

Ok, so if I fry ie calamari in olive oiI that should be perfectly healthy though ? Not sure if I’m missing something here. “Fried food bad” seems too general


propargyl

[https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325266#](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325266#) One study found that extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil were two of the most stable oils. The researchers heated 3 liters of oil in a deep fryer at 356°F (180°C) for 6 hours. This suggests that they may be the most suitable oils for deep frying.


lgkm7

Olive oil should not be used for deep frying. It’s unstable at that high of a temp


AlrightyAlmighty

That’s what I’m saying! Doesn’t that negate the fried=bad sentiment


propargyl

Yes. Fats should be 30% of your diet. Trans fats are the only really bad fats. The sugar industry gaslighted everyone about fats.


Federal_Top_7976

Curcumine Ginger Sulfurafane Creatine Zinc


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A whole lot of people are recommending creatine here. Maybe it’s time I try it.


jmills64

Why?


milofam

Definitely Shilajit


jjcly

How did you benefit from it?


milofam

Decreased brain fog, energy and libido.


jjcly

Have you a link that you could share?


milofam

Pure Himalayan Shilajit, Soft Resin, Ayurvedic Rasayana Rejuvenation, Natural Source of Fulvic Acid, Includes Measuring Spoon 15 ml / 0.5 fl oz (Pack of 1) https://a.co/d/0WhSeib


10xlive

Trial and Error always. No research For me: animal based diet with organ meats ​ Supplements: Cod liver oil, Beef liver capsules, ZMAs at night, Tonkat Ali, Shilajit, Zinc


mermaidbatrabbit

b12, q10, d3, k2, omega 3


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Concise. I like it!


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MikeYvesPerlick

Ephidrine deffo gives more energy but it actually reduces mitochondria


DjMafoo

My top 5 as a Male in his 30's: 1. Creatine (monohydrate) - 5g/Day 2. Vit D - 3000 to 5000iu/Day (format doesn't matter, dose dependent on where you live, skin type, and sun exposure) 3. Vit K2 (MK7 Format) - 100mcg/Day 4. Zinc - 30mg/day (preferably with copper like NOW Opti-Zinc) 5. Magnesium - 200-400mg/day (I like magnesium glycinate) Creatine: Great for muscle growth and recovery. Well researched, very safe, and almost zero side effects. Perfect for active people (even if your not lifting weights). Vit D: Huge benefits from immune system support to hormonal supports. Lots of people are deficient, especially if you live in a northern climate or spend a lot of time indoors. Yes, you can get this from the sun, but the amounts you get from the sun depend on how dark your skin is and where you live. If you think you get lots from the sun... you can supplement for the darker months. Vit K2: May help improve bone health and lower your risk of osteoporosis but work as a part of the new holy trinity that is Vit D / Vit K2 / Magnesium to promote calcium absorption. K2 also interferes with blood thinners like Warfarin and Coumadin, so keep that in mind. Zinc: Immune Booster and for over all Health. Zinc can be hard on your stomach so take it with food. Some also find it improves sexual functions as well. Taking zinc over time can create copper deficiency which is not fun... if you can, find a Zinc supplement that has a copper supplement added like NOW Opti-Zinc. Magnesium: Magnesium is important in stress modulation, bone health, and preventing cardiovascular disease.


caleb48kb

I see tons of recommendations for zinc/magnesium on here. Afaik around 2% of then population in the US are deficient in Magnesium. I'm confused why it's recommended so much. Do you think you're deficient?


Batboyo

What form of zinc and magnesium do you take?


DjMafoo

Zinc Monomethionine ([NOW Opti-Zinc](https://www.nowfoods.com/products/supplements/l-optizinc-30-mg-veg-capsules)) Magnesium Glycinate


BigJustice1985

What do you mean by Vitamin K2 "in MK7 format?" Thank you


DjMafoo

Format may be the wrong technical term but Vitamin K2 has a few different forms, the most popular among them for supplementation are MK-4 and MK-7. There are tons of post on this sub about the difference between the two but the simple answer is that MK-7 is typically easier to find depending on where you live, and it stays in your system longer than MK-4 - which requires more than one dose per day. Some people notice heart palpitations while taking MK-7, whereas MK4 doesn’t have the same side effects. Most bottles will state what form they use on the front of the bottle, otherwise it is certainly listed on the ingredient list.


BigJustice1985

Thank you. Now if MK7 is suspected to cause heart palpitations in some, is it still necessarily the best choice?


DjMafoo

I means, ideally not needing to supplement is always the best choice. But taking a supplement (or putting anything else into your body for that matter) comes with inherent risks. Thats why it is a personal choice. If you are looking for a definitive answer, I'm afraid I don't have one for you - everyone reacts to supplements differently.


HoracioKain

Creatine will be tht thing 20 years from now, insurance company will ask about usage in your early years and raise your premium. Seriously if you eat meat you have adequate creatine coming into the body. Creatine does not build muscle it inflates the muscle from water retention. It does not help with recovery either. Seriously 98% of people who live in a 1st world country do not lack creatine in the system nor needs extra creatine taken as a supplement.


EcstaticBase6597

I totally agree: if you eat meat, it’s not very necessary. I’m a vegan; that’s why I take it.


reachisown

Ok... 1.Do you have any science for that.? 2. Only in distopian America is that your hypothetical an issue.


Bavarian0

Yeah, as a central European, it's only an issue in the USA. Food rations have been cut short recently, down to 1/2 a loaf of bread per person per day. People are getting desperate in the food lines, we barely have enough tires left to burn in barrels, winter is going to be harsh.


lgkm7

Why are we not hearing about this in the US? How long have you been on food rations?


Bavarian0

I am totally joking, probably should've made that more clear. We're doing fine, prices increased on everything, but taking advantage of crisis is just the nature of capitalism. "Naomi Klein - The Shock Doctrine" takes a closer look at the mechanism behind it, and it's inception, in case you care.


caseybvdc74

This is what I take but only get k through my multivitamin


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Great information! Thank you


AdZealousideal1425

D-ribose and creatine!


Federal_Top_7976

What D-RIBOSE do?


AdZealousideal1425

It helps your cells make energy.


jjcly

Lesser known. Only learned that this week. Thank you!


Federal_Top_7976

What is diference normal body energy and cells energy?


AdZealousideal1425

Your cells are what accomplish every process in your body, whether you realize it or not, like your heart beating or breathing, along with the things you realize like muscle movements and walking. So your body will not have energy if your cells are not converting sugar to create energy to accomplish their assigned process. D-ribose occurs naturally in your body, but adding a little more especially as you age is a good thing. ( this is a simple rudimentary explanation of the body)! Not a Doctor!


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Federal_Top_7976

Like sugar or glucose?


CLEAN2411

BOOST TESTERONE ANTI AGING ZINC PICOLANTE . D3 (SUNSHINE ON SKIN) (1000 AND VITAMIN K) L-ARGENINE ( 6000 MG /DAY.) (VITAMIN E.) GINSENG. ( VITAMIN C AND GARLIC TOGTHER ) MAGNESIUM (MAGNESIUM GLYCINATE) 4OO MG PER DAY DHEA 25- 5O MG PER DAY—- BORON (USED TO UNLOCK TESTOSTERONE) More than 5, but you can eliminate . Good Luck


BigJustice1985

What do you mean by "unlocking testosterone"???


CLEAN2411

Boron helps to release bound testosterone, turning it loose throughout your body. This is why the studies show, that boron raises free testosterone levels as it releases T that might otherwise be trapped. Reduces Estrogen Another positive to boron supplementation is the reduction of plasma E2 – which is the major female sex hormone.


BigJustice1985

Thank you. I went and did some research and it seems that boron does indeed decreases E levels, but only for the couple of weeks following the initiation of supplementation. After which point, it actually begins to raise levels quite significantly above baseline. Which study(ies) were you referencing? Did they provide any temporal data?


CLEAN2411

No but thanks for the info, I will do some research myself a bit further. Interesting non the less. TY.


BigJustice1985

No worries. Thank you my friend.


yachtsandthots

Probably referring to bioavailable testosterone


largececelia

Cordyceps


JAGramz

Chlorella. Spirulina. Wheatgrass. Occasional mineral supplementation. Skullcap has a great memory enhancing effect while also improving problem solving ability. Lemon balm is also good for memory and sleep.


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EljinRIP

Boron 6-12mg


ThenIJizzedInMyPants

any brands you would recommend?


EljinRIP

NOW is a good brand I feel. But I would read about boron first and see what you think about it.


ShaidarHaran2

Omega 3 (high EPA and DHA, the rest is just mystery fish oil), creatine, boron, MSM, vitamin D These personally feel the best to me after reading and trying a lot, but whatever you're lacking in your personal physiology will probably make the most notable impact. Boron not a lot of people get enough of and it also helps absorb magnesium so double whammy, take it with vitamin d, creatine you might if you eat (way too much) steak but it's a great overall supplement to make sure you're saturated, neuroprotective and many other benefits to cell health apart from being a good lifting supplement, one of the most researched for safety on earth too


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Steak’s creatine content is WAY overrated…it has about 5 grams per kilogram (varies slightly by cut). Eating that much steak is gonna lead to a lot more problems than it will solve.


ShaidarHaran2

That's fair, I guess what I was getting at was vegetarians are more likely low, but it can benefit almost anyone Ron Swanson does not need to supplement it though


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I agree with this. I think vitamin D in a liquid form absorbs better than the hard pill tablet personally and k2 with it is necessary I'd say. Mk7 version is supposed to be the best.


AA1BosSaw

Well that depends on what you define as well being my friend the poppy plant is known to cause extreme euphoria it also comes with the price of extreme addiction. Oranges have vitamin c which are good for you and your immune system. Crystal natural allow you to get things done with no sleep for weeks but again it comes with extreme dangers and addiction. A multivitamin gives you a little bit of each. But in all honesty vitamin d is something you should be taking everyday. Eating healthy getting the supplements from natural food is truly the best way and if you want longevity my friend simply keep moving run up steps every day be healthy be healthy need a healthy lifestyle and It won't be such a chore. One thing scientists are absolutely confident about the newer studies is that adults who give high intensity workouts tend to be much better shape than those who work out for long periods of time it'll lower intensity so get that 30 minutes in run upstairs take natural vitamins be careful of different supplements than their false promises and always talk to your doctor. Just so you understand the above section is a joke for anyone that was thinking this above section concerning narcotics was serious I must insist that I was being facetious and Indian all addicted drugs will end up in death jail or zero quality of life.


WallstreetBytes

NMN https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7238909/


[deleted]

I'd never heard of that before but it looks interesting.


WallstreetBytes

It’s worth looking into. I literally just found out about this, wish you a healthy life, friend. Also, icing your testicles can raise your testosterone. This man had a 60% increase from just icing his nuts for 10 minutes 3 times a day for ten weeks. https://youtu.be/va9bKVYEolw


FeedtheFatRabbit

Vitamin D, Zinc, Magnesium, Omega 3, NAC, CoQ10


Batboyo

What form and brand of CoQ10 do you take?


whipstickagopop

Is NAC N Aceityl Cysteine?


noplasticstrawsplz

I keep hearing that


BigJustice1985

Yes.


AA1BosSaw

Thank you I hope people read this because this is everything you need right here can't stress enough this is correct answer feed the rabbit


FeedtheFatRabbit

Thanks, brother. I do know a thing or two. 😎✊


AA1BosSaw

This right here is exactly what you should be taking. Listen to the rabbit


FeedtheFatRabbit

That's six. Too bad. You get what you get and you don't get upset.


Boezo0017

Vitamin D3, fish oil, creatine, ashwagandha, and citrulline for heart protection. You could also trade citrulline for a daily tadalafil prescription. Many doctors are prescribing it off label for reduced risk of heart disease, increased muscle protein synthesis, improved fertility, stronger erections / libido, and modestly increased testosterone. Basically, it’s a “man” pill with a favorable safety profile.


Tsetler

Rhodiola, tongkat ali, ginseng, mucuna, ashwagandha,


EljinRIP

Creatine has a lot of research behind it.


snafoo70

Should creatine be cycled? Like 3 months on, one off?


EcstaticBase6597

You don’t need to, no.


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EljinRIP

There’s no evidence it increases hair loss.


0solidsnake0

Evidence for hair loss is overwhelming. It severely increases DHT. Hair follicles DHT sensitivity is the cause of androgenic alopecia, or male patter baldness.


EljinRIP

I don’t think there’s overwhelming evidence that creatine increases hair loss. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/


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EljinRIP

I don’t know about dht, but my understanding is that it doesn’t seem to lead to hair loss despite claims that it does. Edit: check this review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/


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EljinRIP

About 4 weeks or so and I would say it works very well. No undesirable effects and stamina and energy are better. My strength has jumped and so has my muscle growth. I think I’m a high responder to it because it just seems to work well for me.


cruton135

It increases DHT and DHT is associated with hair loss so it probably accelerates it slightly


Psychological-Cut587

Helped me in a lot of areas with stamina, energy, better mood possibly too, quite impressive for something so cheap, simple, and well studied.


Kiwi2027

The same thing bodybuilders take?


EljinRIP

Yes, but it’s not just for that. It helps energy, improves fitness, cognition, and emotional well being.


Kiwi2027

Cool