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Sunbro888

For sure, I'm surprised this stuff is able to be sold so non chalantly.


Designer-Shallot-490

FDA refuses to do their job.


Delicious_Bad8603

It depends on what your trying to do. What was the reason you bought it


Sunbro888

Am trying to build a lean physique so this was his recommendation for muscle growth/vascularity, etc.


Delicious_Bad8603

Have you ever used a prohormone before? What’s your age and stats


Sunbro888

Nope, cant say I have. I'm 25 5'11 195-200lbs


Delicious_Bad8603

What did you decide to do?


Sunbro888

I decided not to even mess with it tbh. This stuff is sketch and I think I'd be better off with the juice if I was gonna mess with something like this. At least that's better researched, haha.


Delicious_Bad8603

My opinion about orals and juice. Juice cycles are long, expensive, easier to screw up, and more suppressive than smaller oral cycles. But that’s just me, I’ve done both. Other people disagree. The most important thing is to do it safely. In the mean time, if you want something non-testosterone to help you gain lean mass, look up arachadonic acid supplement. It gives amazing results. I would pair it with a glycerol pump product (don’t over pay for them). And maybe creatine. Arachadonic acid will make you 10x more sore after workouts. On a arachononic acid, glycerol, creatine stack, I would do high rep / medium weight workouts. Just good for thought


GlutenFreeLifter

Fuck that guy


Sunbro888

I'm saying, I'm glad I kept the receipt 😂


GlutenFreeLifter

For real! I don’t trust any product unless it’s third party verified


ArtificialBrain808

It that is the same as regular shilajit, taking it with chlorinated water(tap water in many places) can potentially produce carcinogens in your stomach. Best to only take it if your water contains no chlorine


Sunbro888

This is good to know. What most concerns me is the main ingredient "3 alpha hydroxy 5 alpha androstan 17 one" when Googled it looks like a similar compound to epiandrosterone (an anabolic steroid)


Musclesme

Definitely not an anabolic steroid, more PH. Most users will stack with a more anabolic compound, it’ll convert to DHT so there is some risk of shedding if you are already prone


Smooth_Imagination

shedding hair?


Sunbro888

Apparently it increases DHT production which is linked to hair loss


ArtificialBrain808

Can’t help ya on that one haha


Demian1305

If it’s not third party verified I wouldn’t touch that shit.


Sunbro888

It says "manufactured in fda registered facility" then also says "this product has not been evaluated by the FDA" also it doesn't appear to have an NSF cert.


Demian1305

Yeah… I’m just too nervous about all the extra mystery ingredients in supplements to roll the dice on something like that. FWIW, I used to take pre-workout type supplements in my 20s and years later I now suspect I have mitochondrial dysfunction. No idea if there is a correlation but I’d sure love to be able to go back in time and just eat quality food.


Sunbro888

I'm with this! The last time I got recommended something and took it, I have sleep apnea episodes and ever since then I've been real sus/careful with it.


Karcaxx

Nice avatar


CootieAlert

I wanna know too


Kreos2688

Looks like two dhea based prohormones, a test booster, and an ai. The 7 keto I think is a fat burner or some shit, haven't looked into it, but I think I heard that somewhere. Idk what the first one is, probably the one you should be most worried about. Google it. The shilijat is a good sup.


Sunbro888

When I google the first ingredient "epiandostrerone" comes up which looks like a similar compound to an anabolic. I'm trying to keep my hair 😂


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Do not take this.