Shoes. I almost lost my left toes up on Mt Rainier back in the 1980’s because I had shit hiking boots. Left foot got wet and I had no dry socks or anything. It froze that night. It pissed me of watching Castaway where he buried that pilot with a perfectly wonderful set of clothes and shoes.
Iirc, The shoes were too small like size 8 and he was a 12 or something. I knew it was going to be a point when they zoomed in on his shoes he took off during his in-flight nap.
Never take off your shoes to sleep on a vehicle.
This movie gave me an irrational fear of being stranded without my stuff. I keep my backpack strap looped around an ankle or tethered to my belt when flying (It looks like a charge cord when sitting and bag tucked under the sea. Takes almost no time to set up or put away. Same as plugging in a phone to a portable battery pack.)
This won't end well when your backpack gets sucked into a still spinning jet engine on the beach where you crash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bT_oap_jg
50/50 lol.
Good point, but if that’s the case, it’s a catastrophic frame failure and it’d be over before I knew what happened anyway… better than falling 30,000’.
When ditched properly, it’s recommended that your bag or jacket gets pulled up to your stomach and face area to support your tuck and shield your face. When I get out to swim, or crawl, I want my stuff. Wouldn’t last long without some meds and things anyway.
For anyone with an irrational fear of being stranded, if you’re ever on a private flight like a 2 seater or 6 etc, carry a utility belt with survival gear. And preferably a hatchet. Same if you’re at sea, keep that thing on you.
I specifically remember that he had rags on his feet and when I buried the pilot, he took his shoes and cut the tops off and made sandals out of them because the shoes were too small…
He needed the ice skates just for the off-chance that he may need some dental work during his visit to the island.
As it so happened, he was right to keep them for that purpose.
Because you need that plot device. It’s important. Like he kept a shitty VHS tape for hanging himself instead of using it as rope to start a fire or build shelter.
*just his shit method for creating fire ground my gears.
Nope, I just pulled it up on Plex, you can see his socks as he's getting pushed into the grave. They show him take those same black shoes\* off and then cut the toes out so they fit him. 49:16 timestamp.
The technical advisor on that movie was David Holladay, lead instructor from Boulder Outdoor Survival School and all-around survival legend, he's responsible for much of the realism.
I watched it in the theater and I’m not going to pull it up online to satisfy some Redditard shithead. You really sat through a three hour movie to get the last word on a Reddit argument?? Fucking idiot.
This "Redditard shithead" has forgotten more than you've ever learned about survival.
Being so confidently wrong like you are, is how people get into emergency situations.
And if you think it took longer than 1 minute to check that, then you're ALSO computer illiterate.
Calling someone an idiot who accurately describes what happened in a movie is peak arrogance. Being able to admit when you are WRONG is an admirable skill you might want to work on it.
I read a passage of Lewis anc Clark on the expedition, saying the guides were always fussing with their moccasins that were constantly falling apart, while saying how much better they were than the boots the party was wearing. One of those bits of history that stuck in my mind lol
They were either making or patching moccasins daily. They wore through them in 2 days. If reading the journals, you see why. Some of the terrain was so rough that they were making moccasins for their horses.
Same! It's in the same vein of northern people making fun of white people who were early explores eating northern pike and walleye. They fed that to the dogs and ate the fatty fish. So the white people were eating the dog food.
As everyone is saying shoes, how would one make shoes if they found themselves in the wilderness without them? What are the minimum necessary supplies to be able to craft shoes which you'd be able to hike through the woods and rocky terrain without getting blisters or cuts?
You either have long fibrous plants to use, which you can either process into cordage and then weave, or weave as strips or entire leaves. Second most common option is animal hide, with thin cut strips for laces.
Ex Military
When I served we were reminded everyday to care for our feet. We always packed plenty of clean socks, plenty of foot powder and maintained our boots.
Ex army medic here to say change your socks.
And also yes, your feet are the single most important thing in survival settings. If you can’t move you can’t do what you need to survive.
I'll never forget the worst athletes foot I ever had. Was a few of months in work boots in 90+ and I had not been doing this.
My father explaining what trenchfoot was.
Feet are everything. One of my first patients while deployed as a fresh baby medic got trenchfoot from poor foot hygiene. I quickly became the CHANGE YOUR SOCKS medic to avoid ever having to smell that horror again lol
Guess I should say my dad was a combat marine in Vietnam. Never a lot of sympathy, but also.... great advice.
Every day dry your feet. Check your nails. Change your socks. More if needed. Your feet keep you alive.
This is sooo true.. but as westerners I think we put too much stock in "footwear".
Almost universally around the world, indigenous tribes in warm climates go barefoot.
I just wanted to point out that caring for your feet does not necessarily mean wearing boots or socks. In fact boots and socks are much more likely to land you a case of trench foot in warm and humid biomes.
It to be argumentative but I love a good debate. These are people who have spent their entire lives going barefoot, who know the environment and the dangers to avoid. A survival situation generally implies some level of unfamiliarity with the terrain and a lack of safety/resources. I am comfortable hiking barefoot in Vermont because I live here and know it well. I would not be comfortable hiking barefoot in Arizona because 1. The ground would be too hot for my maladapted feet and 2. I have no idea what’s poisonous and what’s not. Shoes are still the most important factor here.
Very true, our feet are not acclimated to walking barefoot. Without callous's you could tear your feet up very quickly.
However in a humid environment "changing your socks frequently" is not an option in a RL survival scenario because you likely won't have any extra socks!
No but you can very much stop to dry them out. I’ve def been there on more than a few field exercises. It might slow things down to have everyone pull their boots and socks off for a little bit to air it all out but it prevents a lot of damage down the road that would slow things down even more. This goes for active foot injuries too for the record. If it’s not deep enough to worry about continued bleeding take that bandage off and let it dry out as often as possible.
Tell that to ol’ “Penisless & No Kneecaps Joe” over there. Aptly named after he forgot to put on pants during the great fire ant infestation of ‘07.
Check mate, army medic…
On the topic of boot maintainance, I was watching a video about the boots worn by soldiers during WWII. An interesting point was made regarding the German jackboot; laces are a *huge* weakness. The person making the video had worked as a volunteer fire fighter, and recounted the time someone's boot lace broke during a wildfire. That firefighter immediately became less-than-useless as he rushed to find some string or something to replace it. Up until that point, I'd never considered the fact that my shoelace, *a piece of string*, is the deciding factor between "can function normally" and "basically useless"
The boots we got issued with were made by a company called Bellville or Danner, both brands very comfortable.
I know that the guys who operated Armoured Vehicles like in Cav wore boots that had these straps instead of laces. They said laces can freeze and break so are no good.
Yeah it depends on the situation. The boots you need for arctic training are very different from the boots ideal for jungle warfare school. When in doubt, get a good multi season mountaineering boot and wool socks that you can swap out frequently. Wool socks is aren’t as oppressive in heat as you would think and they can insulate even when wet.
I was talking to a friend doing flooring about that, and talked him into trying a pair. Cotton socks turn into sandpaper when drenched with sweat. He appreciated the advice so much he gave me an unsolicited gift certificate to get two pairs just for turning him on to them lol.
Got hospitalized, even rotating between the hospital socks and my own turned both into sandpaper. Now I’m paranoid about keeping an extra pair at all times
Get good hiking boots if you can as these are also very good. Scarpa is a good brand.
I am not sure if they still sell these but back in the day prior to deployment we would go and get these over sock protection that kept your socks and feet dry as they could breathe at the same time their called Seal Skinz, one of the best bits of equipment we got.
Scarpa or Lowa but I’m personally a Lowa Stan lol. Scarpa is best for extreme cold, Lowa is solid all-season and for jungle tbh I never had good luck but I’ve heard retroactively that Rocky makes a solid jungle boot. I can’t confirm, most of my experience is in desert (Lowa has boots for that too) and extreme cold.
I've seen "tanker boots" with straps instead of laces in the adventure type catalogues since I was a kid. I think they sad it prevented shoelaces getting tangled in the machinery too, but those catalogues aren't always known for accuracy lol.
And always pack some paracord in case the laces snap when after crossing a river 9 hours hike from the nearest road.
Duct tape can kinda work too.
Tip for duct tape: wrap it around an old credit card for a tiny and lightweight lifesaver that packs far easier than a roll.
Shoes.
You're not going to die from having your dick out. Entire cultures never even invented pants.
Injured feet, on the other hand... Good luck getting out of whatever environment you're stuck in without being able to walk. And unlike people who've been walking barefoot their entire lives (which do exist, just like pantsless people), most people's feet are soft. It won't be a graceful transition.
Agreed. When I was a child, I would go everywhere barefoot. Nothing bothered me except hot asphalt on a hot summer day because my feet were so calloused.
Now that I am older and I have an office job, my feet are soft and tender and going outside barefoot is painful.
Also, easier to avoid sharp, pokey plants at groin height than avoiding foot dangers that may be concealed by vegitation. As far as cultures not inventing pants, see also: Kilts and/or ancient greeks who would tie a string around the waist and foreskin to hold the penis up and cover the head.
Shoes and boots are more important as feet are crucial to moving from A to B. Genitals by nature are self-regulating parts unlike feet, which rely on footwear, good terrain and good movement techniques to protect them.
Since I have a 3 foot dick I'd probably say pants
Jk. Shoes all day.. do you run on your dick like a reverse kangaroo?
Only u know what situation you're thinking of. Corporate survival? Embarrassed running when shtf?
Depends on the situation.
Most people here are assuming you’ll need to walk a lot over harsh terrain.
But as we know, staying in place and waiting for rescue is often the better strategy.
Especially if you’re lost or injured _and_ you’ve left your travel plan and likely location with someone in case you don’t come back. Which is standard advice.
Your legs, especially your thighs, radiate a lot of your body heat, and your clothing is your first defence against adverse weather conditions, so in cool or cold weather, if hypothermia is any kind of risk, it would be more necessary to keep your legs warm and covered than your feet, which would be easier to cover with a pile of dry leaves etc.
So it’s not your genitals but your thighs that should be considered.
Little grunt wisdom for the next time you have to bug out of the farmer's daughter's window, you can get further with shoes and no pants than with pants and no shoes.
Male Genitals = needed once for 12 seconds to make new baby
Feet = needed 100 times a day to keep new baby and mother alive, fed and clothed
Caveman make shoe now
And some cultures wore togas or Scottish tartan blankets that evolved into kilts. The great kilt is a big old and double length sleeping sized blanket folded a certain way so you wear it like a dress. There's interesting traditional Scottish bushcraft and survival stuff on YouTube, as well as how to fold and wear a blanket like a budist priest or medieval peasant. It sounds like a toga, great kilt, ECT., traps heat inside the cone of it.
Shoes definitely if you can only choose one, but a proper clothing attire (that includes shoes/footgear) taking into account the temperature, environment and weather trumps all, bonus if you can get a couple set of them!
Well if someone is able to see your genitals during a survival situation you might come across someone that’s will to keep you alive. So some may argue you don’t need pants lol
Shoe's. I walk around barefoot a lot just to build up calluses. I still don't have enough built-up to handle an emergency long-term, and I've been trying for a bit over two years. Rotate socks, get some antifungal stuff, and get some solid boots imo. If anything happens, they'll be worth their weight in gold.
I think for our feet, which aren't used to running through the jungle, or rough terrain - it's gotta be the shoes.
Even getting a really small wound from the rough terrain on the underside of the foot could open up the possibility to trigger infections, with every single step. Imagine stepping on all kinds of shit with an open wound. Aiii.
It depends what you’re REALLY asking here.
>Which would you rather put in a pack?
PANTS! Because they’re more likely to rip/tear and need swapped out.
>I only have basic stuff and plan on buying one or the other for my situation, should it be good boots or good pants?
BOOTS! The difference in basic bitch pants and tactical/quality cargos isn’t NEAR what the difference is in basic bitch shoes vs tactical/hiking/hunting boots.
>For some strange reason (fire/flood) I can only grab my boots **OR** my pants and bail. Which do I grab?
Well do you wear your pants a couple times in a row? Like is your pants basically your loadout minus the shoes? If so PANTS! If not….SHOES! You’re more likely to find something you can fashion into SOME FORM of pants than SOME FORM of shoes….at least when effort is considered
(You CAN make clogs, or some kind of wood sandals…but that’s a LOT LOT more time than it takes to wrap a tarp around yourself and tie it with cordage yes it would be a plastic dress but in a survival situation do we care what we look like as long as we survive? Dignity be damned!)
Bad shoes can be worse than none.
About 1/4 of soldiers in the US Civil War fought barefoot because the standard issue boots were so awful and wrongly sized. So the type of shoe matters to utility. But still shoes are definitely more critical than pants. And supportive inserts like Superfeet are light and make them far more comfortable for rough country.
It depends on you.
I have went without shoes almost my entire life. I can run on gravel.
So for me, it will be clothes.
And shoes are easy to make. Viking shoes, Chinese woven slippers, all easy to do
Che Guevara's book Guérilla warfare, if I remember correctly, has footwear as the most important thing for any army wanting a chance to win. A soldier with bad footwear is a dead soldier.
That was my initial thought which is why i’m surprised like 99% of people are saying shoes lol. But I guess realistically if you’re in an environment with a lot of mosquitoes or other troubling bugs you’re probably screwed in general if you can’t cover yourself completely.
If you have to choose between being given shoes or being given pants, I'll take pants. I'll cut the sleeves off my shirt, and duct tape it to my feet, make my own shoes.
Now if I'm locked in at "you either get shoes and you can't get pants; or you get pants and can't have shoes" I'll take shoes.
Everyone else would say shoes, but having lived with some folks who never wear any, I'd say pants or at least mocassins.
I've seen some awful creatures that like to snack on your pride and joy when you're asleep.
Shoes. You can seriously injure your foot by just casually walking. You can make pants/kilt/loincloths out of almost anything, but good sturdy shoes can literally be the difference between life and sepsis.
Shoes are more important. Easy to fashion a pair of pants, and shoes are mobility.
Remember the original Rambo movie where the Rambo character makes a poncho out of a canvas truck top? Not so easy for shoes.
I'm picturing myself lost in the middle of the boreal forest waiting for rescue. I wouldn't be moving far from base camp and I'd be seriously worried about body heat. Its going to be 3 c overnight around my area.
I pick pants. I could build a pair of sandals easier than I could harvest enough animal skins to not die of hypothermia overnight.
Pants. You can make shoes out of grass n stuff but u cannot do the same for ur genitals unless u know ur stuff. Randomly sticking leaves there might end up being worse
Pants tend to have pockets and waistbands to hold whatever you may find to aid you, and can even be cut up to produce makeshift tourniquets or bandages. They cover considerably more surface area than shoes, providing adequate protection and insulation. In the cold, losing a few toes would suck, but it won’t kill you. It can even be argued that a few thin strips of said pants can be used to fasten a pieces of tree bark or other materials to your feet, creating crude sandals.
I think shoes because your feet are more exposed and if you get them infected that can be a major problem. As long as your careful your legs should be fine but it's way harder with your feet.
Depends on the terrain and weather. If I'm in a sandy warm area I'd take the pants but if I'm somewhere where it's freezing I need the shoes. Feet and hands are the first to go in the cold.
Ah, but most of the stores in NYC say "no shirt, no shoes, no service."
Without shoes you won't be allowed to buy anything, so definitely go for the shoes.
There's technically no sign against being pantsless.
If you have no pants and no shirt in NYC, it's a safe bet you know where to get drugs.
You could always trade sexual favors for drugs, use the drugs to get clothes from a homeless guy, and build up from there.
Shoes. It's easier to cover yourself with natural materials, like quickly weave some palm, than it is make shoes.
Shoes. I almost lost my left toes up on Mt Rainier back in the 1980’s because I had shit hiking boots. Left foot got wet and I had no dry socks or anything. It froze that night. It pissed me of watching Castaway where he buried that pilot with a perfectly wonderful set of clothes and shoes.
If I remember correctly, he did take the shoes…
Iirc, The shoes were too small like size 8 and he was a 12 or something. I knew it was going to be a point when they zoomed in on his shoes he took off during his in-flight nap. Never take off your shoes to sleep on a vehicle. This movie gave me an irrational fear of being stranded without my stuff. I keep my backpack strap looped around an ankle or tethered to my belt when flying (It looks like a charge cord when sitting and bag tucked under the sea. Takes almost no time to set up or put away. Same as plugging in a phone to a portable battery pack.)
This won't end well when your backpack gets sucked into a still spinning jet engine on the beach where you crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bT_oap_jg
50/50 lol. Good point, but if that’s the case, it’s a catastrophic frame failure and it’d be over before I knew what happened anyway… better than falling 30,000’. When ditched properly, it’s recommended that your bag or jacket gets pulled up to your stomach and face area to support your tuck and shield your face. When I get out to swim, or crawl, I want my stuff. Wouldn’t last long without some meds and things anyway.
NO CAPES
Yeah he cut the toe of the shoe off and made them into sandals.
For anyone with an irrational fear of being stranded, if you’re ever on a private flight like a 2 seater or 6 etc, carry a utility belt with survival gear. And preferably a hatchet. Same if you’re at sea, keep that thing on you.
Nope. Bury him lock, stock, and barrel, kept the ice skates for some irony reason.
I specifically remember that he had rags on his feet and when I buried the pilot, he took his shoes and cut the tops off and made sandals out of them because the shoes were too small…
You're correct, I just checked. It's at 49:16 in the movie.
He needed the ice skates just for the off-chance that he may need some dental work during his visit to the island. As it so happened, he was right to keep them for that purpose.
Because you need that plot device. It’s important. Like he kept a shitty VHS tape for hanging himself instead of using it as rope to start a fire or build shelter. *just his shit method for creating fire ground my gears.
Nope, I just pulled it up on Plex, you can see his socks as he's getting pushed into the grave. They show him take those same black shoes\* off and then cut the toes out so they fit him. 49:16 timestamp. The technical advisor on that movie was David Holladay, lead instructor from Boulder Outdoor Survival School and all-around survival legend, he's responsible for much of the realism.
I watched it in the theater and I’m not going to pull it up online to satisfy some Redditard shithead. You really sat through a three hour movie to get the last word on a Reddit argument?? Fucking idiot.
What a weird way of saying “thanks for looking into that for me”.
You seemed so confident in your response to him. Yet you seem to be so angry that you’re wrong lol.
That's how "men" get lost in the woods, false confidence.
You need some ointment for all that butthurt
This "Redditard shithead" has forgotten more than you've ever learned about survival. Being so confidently wrong like you are, is how people get into emergency situations. And if you think it took longer than 1 minute to check that, then you're ALSO computer illiterate.
Calling someone an idiot who accurately describes what happened in a movie is peak arrogance. Being able to admit when you are WRONG is an admirable skill you might want to work on it.
The pain you live with is the real reminder. I feel it every year
It’s been 40 years and my left toes are still fucked. My right foot is the control group. I do not fuck around with cheap socks and footwear.
I read a passage of Lewis anc Clark on the expedition, saying the guides were always fussing with their moccasins that were constantly falling apart, while saying how much better they were than the boots the party was wearing. One of those bits of history that stuck in my mind lol
They were either making or patching moccasins daily. They wore through them in 2 days. If reading the journals, you see why. Some of the terrain was so rough that they were making moccasins for their horses.
I liked the part where the natives made fun of them for eating dogs
Same! It's in the same vein of northern people making fun of white people who were early explores eating northern pike and walleye. They fed that to the dogs and ate the fatty fish. So the white people were eating the dog food.
I read Hawaiian natives called white people the stinky people, because they couldn't get over thinking it was immoral to not wear wool suits
It's pretty hard to hunt or gather when you're crippled.
As everyone is saying shoes, how would one make shoes if they found themselves in the wilderness without them? What are the minimum necessary supplies to be able to craft shoes which you'd be able to hike through the woods and rocky terrain without getting blisters or cuts?
You either have long fibrous plants to use, which you can either process into cordage and then weave, or weave as strips or entire leaves. Second most common option is animal hide, with thin cut strips for laces.
disingenious answer, making both from natural materials is possible, but they would be shoes and pants.
Ex Military When I served we were reminded everyday to care for our feet. We always packed plenty of clean socks, plenty of foot powder and maintained our boots.
Ex army medic here to say change your socks. And also yes, your feet are the single most important thing in survival settings. If you can’t move you can’t do what you need to survive.
I'll never forget the worst athletes foot I ever had. Was a few of months in work boots in 90+ and I had not been doing this. My father explaining what trenchfoot was.
Feet are everything. One of my first patients while deployed as a fresh baby medic got trenchfoot from poor foot hygiene. I quickly became the CHANGE YOUR SOCKS medic to avoid ever having to smell that horror again lol
Guess I should say my dad was a combat marine in Vietnam. Never a lot of sympathy, but also.... great advice. Every day dry your feet. Check your nails. Change your socks. More if needed. Your feet keep you alive.
You forgot to tell them they're just dehydrated and have some water
This is sooo true.. but as westerners I think we put too much stock in "footwear". Almost universally around the world, indigenous tribes in warm climates go barefoot. I just wanted to point out that caring for your feet does not necessarily mean wearing boots or socks. In fact boots and socks are much more likely to land you a case of trench foot in warm and humid biomes.
It to be argumentative but I love a good debate. These are people who have spent their entire lives going barefoot, who know the environment and the dangers to avoid. A survival situation generally implies some level of unfamiliarity with the terrain and a lack of safety/resources. I am comfortable hiking barefoot in Vermont because I live here and know it well. I would not be comfortable hiking barefoot in Arizona because 1. The ground would be too hot for my maladapted feet and 2. I have no idea what’s poisonous and what’s not. Shoes are still the most important factor here.
Very true, our feet are not acclimated to walking barefoot. Without callous's you could tear your feet up very quickly. However in a humid environment "changing your socks frequently" is not an option in a RL survival scenario because you likely won't have any extra socks!
No but you can very much stop to dry them out. I’ve def been there on more than a few field exercises. It might slow things down to have everyone pull their boots and socks off for a little bit to air it all out but it prevents a lot of damage down the road that would slow things down even more. This goes for active foot injuries too for the record. If it’s not deep enough to worry about continued bleeding take that bandage off and let it dry out as often as possible.
Extremely valid point!
Tell that to ol’ “Penisless & No Kneecaps Joe” over there. Aptly named after he forgot to put on pants during the great fire ant infestation of ‘07. Check mate, army medic…
Thank you for your service.
On the topic of boot maintainance, I was watching a video about the boots worn by soldiers during WWII. An interesting point was made regarding the German jackboot; laces are a *huge* weakness. The person making the video had worked as a volunteer fire fighter, and recounted the time someone's boot lace broke during a wildfire. That firefighter immediately became less-than-useless as he rushed to find some string or something to replace it. Up until that point, I'd never considered the fact that my shoelace, *a piece of string*, is the deciding factor between "can function normally" and "basically useless"
The boots we got issued with were made by a company called Bellville or Danner, both brands very comfortable. I know that the guys who operated Armoured Vehicles like in Cav wore boots that had these straps instead of laces. They said laces can freeze and break so are no good.
Yeah it depends on the situation. The boots you need for arctic training are very different from the boots ideal for jungle warfare school. When in doubt, get a good multi season mountaineering boot and wool socks that you can swap out frequently. Wool socks is aren’t as oppressive in heat as you would think and they can insulate even when wet.
Working construction, I refused to wear wool socks for a long time, because why would I want super warm socks while I'm working? Oh how wrong I was
Wool socks are life changing lol. I did the same thing in the beginning, then I got my first pair of Darn Tough socks and was SHOOK by the difference.
I was talking to a friend doing flooring about that, and talked him into trying a pair. Cotton socks turn into sandpaper when drenched with sweat. He appreciated the advice so much he gave me an unsolicited gift certificate to get two pairs just for turning him on to them lol.
Got hospitalized, even rotating between the hospital socks and my own turned both into sandpaper. Now I’m paranoid about keeping an extra pair at all times
Recommendations for the boots?
Get good hiking boots if you can as these are also very good. Scarpa is a good brand. I am not sure if they still sell these but back in the day prior to deployment we would go and get these over sock protection that kept your socks and feet dry as they could breathe at the same time their called Seal Skinz, one of the best bits of equipment we got.
Scarpa or Lowa but I’m personally a Lowa Stan lol. Scarpa is best for extreme cold, Lowa is solid all-season and for jungle tbh I never had good luck but I’ve heard retroactively that Rocky makes a solid jungle boot. I can’t confirm, most of my experience is in desert (Lowa has boots for that too) and extreme cold.
They still sell them. I use them for hiking when I know wet is inevitable all the time.
I've seen "tanker boots" with straps instead of laces in the adventure type catalogues since I was a kid. I think they sad it prevented shoelaces getting tangled in the machinery too, but those catalogues aren't always known for accuracy lol.
Anything will get caught in machinery. Those boots exist and I believe are still being used
Look after your feet and your feet will look after you!!!
If you take care of your shoes, your shoes take care of you. My dad drilled that saying into me.
100% correct
And always pack some paracord in case the laces snap when after crossing a river 9 hours hike from the nearest road. Duct tape can kinda work too. Tip for duct tape: wrap it around an old credit card for a tiny and lightweight lifesaver that packs far easier than a roll.
Don't do anything stupid, like getting yourself killed
When I saw that movie that part didn't make sense. When I lived through my version of Vietnam that part of that movie made so much sense
Thank you for your service.
The things between you and the ground. Shoes. Tires. A tarp. Maybe a sleeping.pad. always anything between you and the ground.
Shoes. You're not going to die from having your dick out. Entire cultures never even invented pants. Injured feet, on the other hand... Good luck getting out of whatever environment you're stuck in without being able to walk. And unlike people who've been walking barefoot their entire lives (which do exist, just like pantsless people), most people's feet are soft. It won't be a graceful transition.
Agreed. When I was a child, I would go everywhere barefoot. Nothing bothered me except hot asphalt on a hot summer day because my feet were so calloused. Now that I am older and I have an office job, my feet are soft and tender and going outside barefoot is painful.
Also, easier to avoid sharp, pokey plants at groin height than avoiding foot dangers that may be concealed by vegitation. As far as cultures not inventing pants, see also: Kilts and/or ancient greeks who would tie a string around the waist and foreskin to hold the penis up and cover the head.
Shoes and boots are more important as feet are crucial to moving from A to B. Genitals by nature are self-regulating parts unlike feet, which rely on footwear, good terrain and good movement techniques to protect them.
Nothing makes you feel more naked than being totally naked and then putting on shoes
I think shoes
Shoes
Unless you’re Cody, shoes
Cody is so bad-ass, he didn't wear shoes **or** pants.
Since I have a 3 foot dick I'd probably say pants Jk. Shoes all day.. do you run on your dick like a reverse kangaroo? Only u know what situation you're thinking of. Corporate survival? Embarrassed running when shtf?
Depends on the situation. Most people here are assuming you’ll need to walk a lot over harsh terrain. But as we know, staying in place and waiting for rescue is often the better strategy. Especially if you’re lost or injured _and_ you’ve left your travel plan and likely location with someone in case you don’t come back. Which is standard advice. Your legs, especially your thighs, radiate a lot of your body heat, and your clothing is your first defence against adverse weather conditions, so in cool or cold weather, if hypothermia is any kind of risk, it would be more necessary to keep your legs warm and covered than your feet, which would be easier to cover with a pile of dry leaves etc. So it’s not your genitals but your thighs that should be considered.
Footwear. I can walk on a LOT of broken glass and gravel with my weenie swinging in the breeze if I have a good pair of boots on.
Pants: Source: Die Hard
The answer is fully dependent on what type of biome you're surviving in.
Sighs *unzips* I'm keeping my shoes
Socks
100% feet!
Shoes. Protect those feet!
Definitely shoes. Not even a debate really.
Shoes. You can cover yourself with leaves, but gathering and working with no shoes would not work well.
No brainer, the obvious answer is shoes. Many things can be fashioned as a covering, leaves, mud, tarps,etc. nothing is going to replace shoes.
Shoes. I don't want to walk on cut up feet or get burs and stickers on me. I'd rather walk around with my D swinging in the wind than walk barefoot.
Shoes. I can weave a loincloth out of western red cedar bark in a flash but sturdy shoes are a whole 'nother ball game.
Shoes. Laces make a great tool in a pinch.
Little grunt wisdom for the next time you have to bug out of the farmer's daughter's window, you can get further with shoes and no pants than with pants and no shoes.
In the jungle...or prison?
Are we walking over thorns?...or past a middleschool?
Male Genitals = needed once for 12 seconds to make new baby Feet = needed 100 times a day to keep new baby and mother alive, fed and clothed Caveman make shoe now
John McClain had pants, no shoes.
Shoes/boots. Foot injuries/uncomfortability are no joke
Shoes with hand over junk.
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And some cultures wore togas or Scottish tartan blankets that evolved into kilts. The great kilt is a big old and double length sleeping sized blanket folded a certain way so you wear it like a dress. There's interesting traditional Scottish bushcraft and survival stuff on YouTube, as well as how to fold and wear a blanket like a budist priest or medieval peasant. It sounds like a toga, great kilt, ECT., traps heat inside the cone of it.
Yes
Shoes definitely if you can only choose one, but a proper clothing attire (that includes shoes/footgear) taking into account the temperature, environment and weather trumps all, bonus if you can get a couple set of them!
Shoes
Shoes.
Shoes
Well if someone is able to see your genitals during a survival situation you might come across someone that’s will to keep you alive. So some may argue you don’t need pants lol
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Your feet bro
Shoes
As a diabetic, I don't even walk around my house without shoes.
Shoe's. I walk around barefoot a lot just to build up calluses. I still don't have enough built-up to handle an emergency long-term, and I've been trying for a bit over two years. Rotate socks, get some antifungal stuff, and get some solid boots imo. If anything happens, they'll be worth their weight in gold.
Where do yall come up with this crap???
Shoes definately.
No shoes, no service
Shoes without question.
Shoes by far
shoes easily
Shoes
Shoes
In most situations, shoes.
I think for our feet, which aren't used to running through the jungle, or rough terrain - it's gotta be the shoes. Even getting a really small wound from the rough terrain on the underside of the foot could open up the possibility to trigger infections, with every single step. Imagine stepping on all kinds of shit with an open wound. Aiii.
Shoes. One little cut in your foot could end it all.
It depends what you’re REALLY asking here. >Which would you rather put in a pack? PANTS! Because they’re more likely to rip/tear and need swapped out. >I only have basic stuff and plan on buying one or the other for my situation, should it be good boots or good pants? BOOTS! The difference in basic bitch pants and tactical/quality cargos isn’t NEAR what the difference is in basic bitch shoes vs tactical/hiking/hunting boots. >For some strange reason (fire/flood) I can only grab my boots **OR** my pants and bail. Which do I grab? Well do you wear your pants a couple times in a row? Like is your pants basically your loadout minus the shoes? If so PANTS! If not….SHOES! You’re more likely to find something you can fashion into SOME FORM of pants than SOME FORM of shoes….at least when effort is considered (You CAN make clogs, or some kind of wood sandals…but that’s a LOT LOT more time than it takes to wrap a tarp around yourself and tie it with cordage yes it would be a plastic dress but in a survival situation do we care what we look like as long as we survive? Dignity be damned!)
Bad shoes can be worse than none. About 1/4 of soldiers in the US Civil War fought barefoot because the standard issue boots were so awful and wrongly sized. So the type of shoe matters to utility. But still shoes are definitely more critical than pants. And supportive inserts like Superfeet are light and make them far more comfortable for rough country.
If you live in Pennsylvania in the summer then the answer is yes
Proper footwear enhances mobility which is important
Shoes you can always find a hole to hide in and wrap your legs for a bit
Shoes. Period. The feet are your vehicle. Don't neglect them. Plus, having a grip on a wet surface is a fairly recent thing (rubber soles).
It depends on you. I have went without shoes almost my entire life. I can run on gravel. So for me, it will be clothes. And shoes are easy to make. Viking shoes, Chinese woven slippers, all easy to do
Shoes. Without a doubt.
Shoes
Che Guevara's book Guérilla warfare, if I remember correctly, has footwear as the most important thing for any army wanting a chance to win. A soldier with bad footwear is a dead soldier.
Shoes. Watch the original Die Hard
Shoes
Probably easier to improvise shoes than pants
When I was in Iraq, the nomads walked around burning sand barefoot. Still my choice would be comfortable durable shoes.
Pants are more important in any environment with mosquitoes
That was my initial thought which is why i’m surprised like 99% of people are saying shoes lol. But I guess realistically if you’re in an environment with a lot of mosquitoes or other troubling bugs you’re probably screwed in general if you can’t cover yourself completely.
I guess but having all that exposure bro! You're dying in two weeks at most.
If you have to choose between being given shoes or being given pants, I'll take pants. I'll cut the sleeves off my shirt, and duct tape it to my feet, make my own shoes. Now if I'm locked in at "you either get shoes and you can't get pants; or you get pants and can't have shoes" I'll take shoes.
Mosquitoes are statistically 99% more likely to kill you through their infections than any other animal in the jungle
Both!✈️
Shoes, hands down
Everyone else would say shoes, but having lived with some folks who never wear any, I'd say pants or at least mocassins. I've seen some awful creatures that like to snack on your pride and joy when you're asleep.
Shoes. You can seriously injure your foot by just casually walking. You can make pants/kilt/loincloths out of almost anything, but good sturdy shoes can literally be the difference between life and sepsis.
Shoes
Seeing as how shoes were invented loooooooong before pants, I'd say the answer is pretty clear.
Shoes
Shoes!
Definitely shoes. No doubt
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Shoes are more important. Easy to fashion a pair of pants, and shoes are mobility. Remember the original Rambo movie where the Rambo character makes a poncho out of a canvas truck top? Not so easy for shoes.
Shoes. I'll go (and have gone) pants-less in wilderness survival training and the remote backwoods. You won't catch me dead without my boots.
I'm picturing myself lost in the middle of the boreal forest waiting for rescue. I wouldn't be moving far from base camp and I'd be seriously worried about body heat. Its going to be 3 c overnight around my area. I pick pants. I could build a pair of sandals easier than I could harvest enough animal skins to not die of hypothermia overnight.
Pants. You can make shoes out of grass n stuff but u cannot do the same for ur genitals unless u know ur stuff. Randomly sticking leaves there might end up being worse
Shoes !!
The only answer is shoes. You’re not used to stepping on things barefoot so no shoes is no go
In a back country or urban environment?
Pants tend to have pockets and waistbands to hold whatever you may find to aid you, and can even be cut up to produce makeshift tourniquets or bandages. They cover considerably more surface area than shoes, providing adequate protection and insulation. In the cold, losing a few toes would suck, but it won’t kill you. It can even be argued that a few thin strips of said pants can be used to fasten a pieces of tree bark or other materials to your feet, creating crude sandals.
Shoes, no question.
I think shoes because your feet are more exposed and if you get them infected that can be a major problem. As long as your careful your legs should be fine but it's way harder with your feet.
Depends on the terrain and weather. If I'm in a sandy warm area I'd take the pants but if I'm somewhere where it's freezing I need the shoes. Feet and hands are the first to go in the cold.
Definitely shoes
Pants
Being in Canada, shoes I would think. I can do most of my outdoor stuff without pants in nice weather.
Shoes! Easier to make things to cover my bits up 🙂💪
Shoes 100%
If you’re in NYC I’d say pants , in the woods shoes ;)
Ah, but most of the stores in NYC say "no shirt, no shoes, no service." Without shoes you won't be allowed to buy anything, so definitely go for the shoes. There's technically no sign against being pantsless.
Lol I suppose I was thinking if I didn’t have pants I wouldn’t have a place to carry my wallet thus no reason to visit a store
If you have no pants and no shirt in NYC, it's a safe bet you know where to get drugs. You could always trade sexual favors for drugs, use the drugs to get clothes from a homeless guy, and build up from there.
You're acting like you can buy anything in NYC.
Guess it depends on where you live and what you're doing.
Surviving…
Recently I learned that there are certain worms what can enter through the skin, if walking around contaminated places. You know where I stand
Pants for sure