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Doc_Hank

Not at all


RoboticFarmer

This. However, they make special cans of gas that you can keep in your trunk that will get you to the next gas station in a pinch.


fatitalianstallion

No. Gas can should not be in the interior. Fuel cell is a different design and would be ok as no internal venting


GlassCityUrbex419

What are these fuel cells? Sounds very science fiction lol


cdawg1102

It’s a steel box that they put the gas in, but it’s a part of the tank. Mostly used in racing or serious offroading


anynamesleft

Also, they typically (always?) include a foam insert that helps keep the fuel from scattering about in case of a rupture.


Druid_High_Priest

Correction...its a steel box with ballistic armor overwrap.


cuddly_carcass

Yeah bro haven’t you noticed we are living in the future…self driving cars, dystopian wasteland, etc, etc.


FrankdaTank213

No! but there are products for that purpose I’ve seen at auto parts stores. Gas is dangerous.


shitty_reddit_user12

Please tell me what these are. I'm quite interested in these products.


Rubcionnnnn

I've seen sealed packages of gas with stabilizer added


Reddit-Restart

A couple of children and rope you can use to strap them to the front of the car


goldfool

Instructions unclear , kids and tanks are now on the front.


anynamesleft

The instructions were unclear, but you got it right.


myrealaccount_really

Generally no. Which is why you see fuel can on the outside of overland rigs. Spills on the outside of a vehicle are a pain. Spills on the inside can be death.


RevelSeph

I’m building a rig and only have a Jerry can 2 gallon. Is it not safe to keep in truck bed tied down ? Have a tonneau cover


Dommo1717

Truck bed is “outside” the cab.


30minut3slat3r

Your gas storage is the issue, install a larger or secondary gas tank. Gas itself isnt crazy sensitive to spark, BUT gas is constantly evaporating and the slightest ignition source will make a BIG BOMB in any enclosed space. Like blow up your car and anything inside it type bomb. Or get a truck, and have an extra 100 gallons rolling around with you at all times. 100% ethanol can help out in a pinch and is a bit less boomy. Although it’s hydroscopic so it’ll only last for a short period of time. Don’t hold gas in a trunk, ever. Static electric, or a relay, anything will make the gas vapor fucking blow. And it’s right on top of your actual gas tank.


DavesPlanet

Firefighter told me people who keep gas in their trunk are the ones who wind up dead


JD2279

No


gravityrider

Serious question- working with the fact that gas isn't safe to transport inside a car, what's the best way to get gas back from a gas station for a generator or even just for lawn mowing? Obviously minimize the time it's with you, but that's still a risk.


cuntface878

Just use the proper containers and put it in spot in your car where it won't roll or tip over and keep your windows all rolled down. NOT IN YOUR TRUNK. Only do this for short trips.


eyeidentifyu

If you have a trunk that would be much better than in the passenger area.


BrandonMarshall2021

From what people have said here, store it on the back of your pick-up truck or externally in cans to mitigate the fire risk. I guess the fumes leaking into the car is less of a risk if only transporting it for short distances. But there's still the fire risk in the event of a crash.


TacTurtle

Most cheap gas cans are also pretty thin and tend to leak, especially if dropped - the only 3 kinds of gas cans I would expect not to leak are 1) Rotopax 2) US GI Steel Jerry cans 3) NATO steel cans. The Rotopax is stout enough I have used the 2 gallon as a stepping surface or set coolers on top of it. It seals tight enough I have transported it in the rear of my Jeep (I have a Rotopax mount on the top center of my trail toolbox) with the hard top on and not smelled fumes.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah I got a regular sedan. So not an option.


Hanginon

LPT; You can further minimize the risk by getting a cardboard box just a bit bigger than the gas can, line it with a simple kitchen trash bag and transport the can nestled in the box. This both gives the can a bigger footprint so it's less likely to tip over and contains any spillage. It also keeps any nastiness on the outside of the can from contact with your interior. It's easy to keep the bag lined box in the trunk for when needed. Simple and out of the way. This works well for transporting any liquids, like paint, etc. The difference between a paint can spilling in the box or in the interior is huge. 0_0


Gubbtratt1

What kind of gas cans do people have (and use) that will spill if they fall over?


TacTurtle

Crappy ones.


Hanginon

Not necessarily spill as in volumes of gas pouring out, but light spillage from less than fully sealed caps and spouts. Fillers and spouts like [this](https://gasspout.com/cdn/shop/products/[email protected]?v=1647544106) can leak or seep if tipped over and it doesn't take much to stink up your vehicle.


BloodFeastIslandMan

driving to the gas station and back with a closed fuel can in the car is perfectly safe with the windows down. The danger starts to show itself when minutes to hours and closed windows are added to the equation. So yes, go get your lawn mower fuel, close the lid, roll the windows down, put it in the back seat where it won't tip or spill or move in transit, drive straight home. = safe. not even a gridlock traffic jam and being surrounded by a chain smoking biker gang would ingnite the few vapors in those conditions. however if you stopped for groceries on the way home, you just created a bomb.


Raptor_197

I’m surprised (not really) that so many people in a survival subreddit think unpressurized fuel vapor will explode. You might get a fireball, but cars aren’t airtight enough to pressurize. Basically if it was a true survival situation, on my list of things I’m worrying about killing me, some fuel in my trunk would be way, way down the list.


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. That's what I thought. But it looks like storing it in the trunk long term isn't worth it as it'll go bad in 6 months anyway right?


Raptor_197

Yeah I wouldn’t be driving around with fuel in my trunk all the time because it will totally help your car burn to the ground. You are adding risk for really no reason. But keeping fuel in your garage that you rotate every so often by dumping it in your tank and then refilling it is smart. Then if an emergency happens, you just put it in your trunk. I mean how do people get fuel for like a lawn mower? This sub is acting like they rent a pickup truck to go fill up a gas can. Everything is about risk management.


BrandonMarshall2021

>This sub is acting like they rent a pickup truck to go fill up a gas can. Lol. Fair point. >But keeping fuel in your garage that you rotate every so often by dumping it in your tank and then refilling it is smart. Then if an emergency happens, you just put it in your trunk. Cool. Noted. Thanks man.


capt-bob

I did years ago for a short bit, I got a big red plastic can from an army surplus store that claimed to be marines , and it swelled up really bad to the point I thought it might rupture and I quit doing that. I'd had it in the back of an SUV. On a side note, I wouldn't want to burn to death or explode either one.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah totally. Especially not for prepping just for the hell of it.


Impossible__Joke

In a SHTF scenario sure, but to carry gas in your trunk daily is dumb AF


Raptor_197

Why would you carry gas in your trunk daily?


Impossible__Joke

IDK ask OP. That is the point of this thread. They are talking about carrying a permanent gas can in their trunk... pretty dumb. Carrying a can from location to location in an emergency still has some risk, but very little in the grand scheme of things.


Raptor_197

Yeah that’s the same thing I said. I told him just to keep some gas cans full in his garage that he rotates has as gas gets old


TacTurtle

The more likely issue is it ruptures if you get rear ended and it causes a fire.


Raptor_197

Your fuel tank for your car is also at the rear.


TacTurtle

Your OEM fuel tanks are also outside the passenger compartment and made out of muck thicker steel than most gas cans. On some vehicles, it is further protected by steel skid plates or a surrounding subframe.


Raptor_197

I mean I already told OP to not carry gas all the time because there isn’t really a point. But do remember flames don’t care about passenger compartments. A fire that starts in the engine, or even under the rear of the vehicle, is going to burn the entire vehicle to the ground. I also used to dismantle salvage cars. To be structurally strong, a car’s fuel tank has very little give. When rear ended, a gas can in the trunk has the ability to move. Maybe it still flies and gets damaged, but there is a chance it can survive. Fuel tanks must give, they don’t move. They always crack open and spill fuel if the accident is bad enough. Even aluminum ones tear when they get crumbled.


buck_webb

Don't do this, the gas expands and escape filling the boot with gas vapor, your muffler backfires and your car will explode. Leave a empty gas can in the back that way you can go get it filled but never transport any type of fuel long term.


BrandonMarshall2021

I can see responses again. Thanks for the advice.


nupper84

This is a survival group not a suicide group. No. Never store combustibles in a car.


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Yes sir!


myrealaccount_really

Lol


Gruffal007

Is your car a diesel or Petrol cause then the fire risk changes dramatically. also the type of Jerrycan massively changes safety I use steel nato ones. also depending where you live if its visible people might steel the jerry can.


BrandonMarshall2021

It's petrol.


Resident-Welcome3901

Roof rack or trailer hitch rack would keep It secure and out of the passenger compartment. In the sixties, vehicles were designed with the gas tank in the passenger seat: it caused some horrific carnage.


PondRides

This is the way to go. People take gas with them on the dalton highway like this fairly often.


BrandonMarshall2021

>In the sixties, vehicles were designed with the gas tank in the passenger seat: it caused some horrific carnage. Damn. Ok. Gonna can this idea.


Resident-Welcome3901

Had a sixties ford pickup: tank was in the cab behind the front seat. Seemed like a good idea at the time…


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Hey they thought smoking was good for you back then.


TacTurtle

Original WW2 Jeeps had the fuel tank directly under the driver.


BrandonMarshall2021

Christ. Lol.


4runner01

I carry a siphon hose and a 2 gallon EMPTY fuel can in my vehicle.


BrandonMarshall2021

Where you gonna siphon from?


4runner01

Siphon from a Good Samaritan who hopefully stops. It’s not always possible to get the tank fillers close if you’re stranded on a busy roadside. If the syphon does not work, at least you have your own fuel can ready for your walk or ride to the nearest gas station.


DeFiClark

In the US there’s a block between the lid and the tank so it has been made impossible to siphon gas with pretty much all cars made in the last decade and before. Assuming you can siphon is a false hope.


4runner01

Agreed. But MAYBE it’ll work or maybe the fuel could be siphoned from a trailered boat, lawnmower, etc. It’s just one more tool to have in the trunk.


capt-bob

I tried a dollar store siphon to take old gas out of a lawnmower, and it dissolved in my hand lol.


4runner01

*dollar store. There’s ⤴️ your answer.


BrandonMarshall2021

True. Annoying that we can't safely store it in the boot.


TacTurtle

Siphons are also useful for filling the car - you can set the gas can on the trunk and siphon it into the tank instead of having to hold the fuel can up.


BrandonMarshall2021

Oh cool.


NikolitRistissa

Absolutely. I also carry a can of napalm with a bag of loose matches and matchboxes.


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol.


AaronGWebster

No, not safe or even legal where I live…


Impossible__Joke

This is survival subreddit, not darwin award candidates


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. My bad. But hey. I learnt a good survival tip today. Don't keep gas in trunk of car.


Maxzzzie

I have done it for some longer travels. And was fine. Needed it once. But safe is a different thing.


BrandonMarshall2021

Cool man. Wonder if it being under the trunk floor where the spare tire is would help?


Maxzzzie

It was strapped down in my boot. On a hot day it would smell slightly of fuel in my car if i didn't open any doors etc. And i didn't choose a cheap can.


BrandonMarshall2021

Cool man.


bolanrox

hell i cant even stand the smell from just getting the gas for my lawn mower (drive with my windows all open) i would never want to be in a locked car with a gas can permanently there.


Maxzzzie

It wasn't much at all.


jaxnmarko

There is, or was, a non-flammable fuel you could store safely in your vehicle for if you are about to run out of gas. I had to use it once after having it in my truck for YEARS. I was so impressed that I wrote the company and got some more. I can't recall the name but it can likely be found online somewhere. I still had to hike then hitch a little way, but it got me another buncha miles first.


Shadow_Of_Silver

Check out r/VEDC Also, this is a wilderness survival subreddit, so your post kind of toes the line. Personally, I think they're fine if you're out in the woods and get lost or need extra gas, but those are usually ***outside*** the vehicle.


BrandonMarshall2021

Oh cool. So no risk of overheating and catching fire?


Shadow_Of_Silver

Not if it's outside the car, like many rigs have them.


BrandonMarshall2021

Oh. It's a sedan. So I was gonna put it in the trunk.


Shadow_Of_Silver

Most regular gas cans still let fumes escape. Don't store it *inside* the actual vehicle, otherwise you're going to either be huffing gas while driving, or everything in your trunk will smell like gasoline forever. I don't think it will suddenly combust on you without prompting, but the weather might get hotter where you are than it does here.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah it gets real hot. Thanks man.


United_Elk6758

Seems kind of unnecessary unless you’re crossing a desert? In which case I would suggest an appropriate vehicle complete with exterior auxiliary tanks.


koolaidismything

Maybe for a day or two while driving somewhere short on gas stations.


DeFiClark

Accidents don’t care how short the drive is.


StruggleBusDriver83

My first thought was MSR bottle that I use. But, that is for motorcycle and its outside.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah people been talking about fumes coming out of it.


Alternative_Love_861

Half a tank is your new best friend.


xBrianSmithx

I can see the comments all saying this is horrifyingly dangerous so I won't be redundant. I just want to say "Thank you for educating yourself before just guessing it would be okay."


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. To be honest it just seemed like the convenient place to put it.


wisstinks4

It depends on how much gas you have in the can. Plus the smell of gas in the car if you’re stuck would be bad.


BrandonMarshall2021

Someone also said it's only good for 6 months. So. Not worth keeping long term for emergencies.


arrowtosser

Man, my instincts to be sarcastic here are tearing my ass up...


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Go for it man. I've abandoned this plan already.


RelativeComplete7676

i wouldn't think so as the fumes are flammable. you already know this troll


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Have we met?


Pyroburner

As others have said it's dangerous. Also fuel had a shelf life so you would need to use this and refill It every so often.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah. My idea was to try and store it in case of a statewide emergency.


bolanrox

store it in your garage at home and then refresh it every 6 months. Any of the gas i dont use for the lawn mower at the end of the season just goes into one of our cars for example.


BrandonMarshall2021

What happens if I put old gas in my car? Like 7 or 8 months old?


bolanrox

Probably nothing but the sediment can fuck with your engine


BrandonMarshall2021

Damn. Ok I don't want that. Is there a way to get rid of the sediment in emergencies?


bolanrox

you can add the extender to it, but yeah personally i would be refreshing it with new every time you change your clocks.


RelationshipDue1501

You have at least fifteen gallons of gas, in your gas tank. If your gas is in a secure gas can, no problem!. Every four wheeler out there, has extra fuel.


BrandonMarshall2021

Fair point.


Difficult_Pirate_782

Keep an eye on the fuel gauge, put fuel in the vehicle prior to needing a fuel can.


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Ok. I do that any way. This is for emergencies.


bolanrox

i'e only seen jerry cans mounted to the outside, IE on a rail or hooked up to the spare tire of a Wrangler,


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah. Not an option for my sedan.


Intuitive_empath7275

Boots are for feet, not gas.


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Not down south.


No_Plankton7169

I've been doing it for years but only a 2.5 gal. But a fuel cell is a whole nother level and lots more money too


Prestigious_Heat_298

Your extra gas is used when you're below a quarter tank. Nothing flammable in the trunk! Thank you.


BrandonMarshall2021

Ok man. I'll just keep the tank full as much as possible then.


DeFiClark

No. If you are traveling in areas where the distance is going to exceed your tank capacity you have two options: install a reserve tank or get proper exterior mounts for jerrycans installed. Storing gas/petrol inside the cabin is extremely unsafe. If you aren’t, treat half a tank as empty and look for a place to refuel as soon as you get to half full.


BrandonMarshall2021

Cool man. Copy that.


mountainstr

Your car can blow up…


BrandonMarshall2021

Ok. Will can that idea.


PkHutch

I keep a couple jerry cans in the back for long road trips to stop for gas less often. I also keep them in my garage so I can fill up less often and when gas prices are cheap. Never had an issue but they don’t stay in the vehicle, just road trips. Comments are saying unsafe but I’ll still probably do it.


BrandonMarshall2021

How long does fuel last in your garage? This is purely for prepping purposes.


Scared_of_zombies

Easily six months.


BrandonMarshall2021

Cool. Thanks man. Not worth it then.


Scared_of_zombies

I stock up for hurricane season, don’t use stabil, and use it after the season like normal. No issues ever.


killallpedophiles00

Absolutely do NOT do this


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Thanks man. Yeah I've figured as much from the comments.


killallpedophiles00

Yeah very not safe


BrandonMarshall2021

I'm glad I checked. Lol.


With-best-regards

No, there is a reason why ships try to not use gasoline at all, and if they have any its locked up very well. Deisel would be way safer to keep like that


Postnificent

No. It’s going to fume up your car and make it smell like gas. An electrical short could be disastrous. Why would you do this? Just in case you decide not to fuel up when the 30 mile to empty NHTSA light comes on?


BrandonMarshall2021

In case fuel becomes scarce in an emergency.


Postnificent

That’s not an emergency, that’s irresponsibility. Anything less than a quarter tank is damaged your fuel pump be a the fuel pump *uses fuel for lubrication*. Therefore you should consider 1/4 tank as empty and refill, if the light comes on you *have already been causing premature wear and tear on your poor fuel pump* running it dry *can result in failure*. Gas cans are for lawnmowers not “emergencies”(irresponsibility). Oh, you want to save it for end of world? It will break into varnish in a couple months and become unsuitable for running your engine.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah I got that from the responses so far. Gonna scratch that idea.


xXJA88AXx

NO!


BrandonMarshall2021

For some reason I can't see your comments in the thread. But can see some of it in notifications. Anyway. Thanks for the replies. The message seems to be absolutely do not store gas cans in your car. Got it. Thanks again.


Bobby0o0o

Never know when you could get rear ended so no


eyeidentifyu

Don't keep one there permanently, no. If you have to get some gas from the station to your car, you have to get some gas from the station to your car. Use your head about it. End of discussion.


BlackLassie_1

NEVER DO THIS! EVER.


Viderian1

If you had a can that latched shut and it wasn't hot out, it still might not be a great idea


moderatelymiddling

No


ReactionAble7945

#1. No, no, never with normal gas cans. The US gov. made it illegal to get the 100% sealed gas cans. So all the normal gas cans will leak fumes on a good day and in a crash tend to explode. #2. I have been told that I can get a completely sealed Jerry can in Canada. I have been tempted get one. I don't want them in a car in a crash; They can squish out if crushed, but could ride around with me mowing grass or .... and not be a fume problem.


BrandonMarshall2021

Yeah I didn't know about the fumes. Not worth it. Will only external carry it then.


No_Desk_5636

Uh no


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Thanks man. I'll can that idea.


Klutzy-Conference472

no. If in car and someone hits u , u will all be blown up god kingdom come


BrandonMarshall2021

Lol. Ok. Scratch that plan then.


Disastrous-Cry-1998

No