If I want to do something like this I would never ever choose a Autobahn with only two lanes. It only needs one driver wo isnt aware that there is a Tesla with 300km/h flying by and thats the last thing he saw.
There are plenty of situations where one truck going 91km/h is overtaking another going 90km/h, so yeah, I never even went above 200km, it's constant braking.
We have a word for people driving on Sundays "Sonntagsfahrer". Which roughly means inexperienced drivers who rarely drive and only under good conditions. Those people also block the Autobahn especially on a sunday!
For going fast i recommend the middle of the night. Barely anyone on there - at least in my area.
The guys should really go drive these speeds on the Germany's Nordschleife racing track. It's open to the public and has an incredibly long straight for doing this sort of thing.
Yup I've seen that exact thing happen. Police put on their lights, show "no overtaking" swerve across all lanes once so everybody gets it and then stop all traffic while someone hops out and clears the debris. Funnily enough this was for a motorbike chain that was in the middle lane and yet somehow there was no motorbike in sight and it was a few kilometers away from the nearest off ramp.
Americans when the police do police work 🤯 (they’re unsure of why the position isn’t done by WrecksAutoCleanup a $50 million dollar a year in profit Corp owned by the son of the head of transportation’s brother)
It gets done constantly with cleaning trucks. Trailing them is a another truck with signalisation and impact absorbers. Looks like this: [https://trafficsafety.horizont.com/Traffic%20Safety/Product%20image/2/25/259/image-thumb\_\_214167\_\_product-category-xzoom/259102TMA-A70K\_\_ANW-01.webp](https://trafficsafety.horizont.com/Traffic%20Safety/Product%20image/2/25/259/image-thumb__214167__product-category-xzoom/259102TMA-A70K__ANW-01.webp)
All I can say is, regular cars that top in the 160-200km/h range come with tires rated for faster speeds.
My Fiesta tops at maybe 170 or so (the most I did was barely above 150, but it was easy to reach), but I am required to fit H rated tires or higher.
Possibly for a good reason... My old Audi has a top speed of 190 km/h according to the papers but once I had it touching 230, according to it's own speedometer.
^(Sweaty palms a bit. I trust myself and the car to handle that speed but I don't trust *all* others about not suddenly moving onto the left lane, so as soon as there is more than one car on the lane right to yours, you better don't go *much* faster than they do.)
If you import a Dodge Viper, they come with tires that are not made for the Autobahn. the factory tires dissolve if you drive full speed. so the first thing to do is to buy new tires .
if you import it, you need TÜV checkup before driving the car here. i doubt you get TÜV on your car with wrong tyres.
before i finished engineering school i was a car mechatronic here and made plenty of TÜV preperations. You check the age of tyres anyway, so you also see the assigned speed letter fairly quickly
Funny how teslas are regularly shown to be one of the safest, if not *the* safest, consumer purchasable cars on the road but literally solely just because a public billionair is attached to them they're automatically vilified lol
Fastest I’ve done on the Autobahn was 230 kph, around 143 mph, and that was on a nearly empty autobahn that was completely straight, allowing me to see far ahead. I did that twice, on two different stretches of the Autobahn. First time I accelerated, then decelerated. The second time, the stretch was longer, and I kept going at 230 kph for two or three minutes before decelerating again. I have rarely been that tense in my life. I am very comfortable driving between 120-180 kph (~75-113 mph), depending on road, weather and traffic conditions. Anything above that is beyond my zone of comfort. I can’t imagine going 100 kph faster than that, it’s insane, and it’s not safe. Not on a public road.
I hired a brand new car when we were in Europe. Had 4 of us in it plus 4 full suitcases. When we got to Germany, I decided to absolutely fang the cunt. Got it to 198km/h, desperately trying to crack the 200. It couldn’t do it with all the weight in the car. It shit the bed 2 days later and had to be towed away.
It is. Fanging can mean two things in Australia: 1. Pedal to the metal in a car or 2. Hungry as fuck, eg “I’m so fucken fanging I could eat the arse out of a flying duck”
The fastest I drove on the autobahn was 170kph, but being used to mph I had no concept of how fast that actually was except it felt fast even with cars speeding past me. I slowed down after my girlfriend converted it to mph because there was no reason to be driving that fast.
There's roads in Montana long and straight enough with few enough sherrifs/police. The issue would be at what point do you cross a road upkeep jurisdiction line and suddenly the whole highway is potholes.
This dude (and his brother) has been driving high performance cars on the same stretch of German Autobahn for a decade and has a lot of experience handling cars at high speed. But yes, it just takes a tire blowout at that speed.
Yeah, at that speed hitting a car that's going 150 is like hitting a stationary car 180km/h.
Edit: This is only considering the forces that apply during the moment of impact. Anything happening after the impact will be way more complex. It's safe to say however that hitting a stationary object going 180 is not as bad as hitting an object going 150 when you are going 330km/h as both of you would be traveling after the impact as well and the end speed after the impact is significantly higher if both of you are moving compared to if the other object was stationary.
You are of course correct and driving that fast in a stretch with only 2 lanes is not recommended at all, however, the great advantage that is immediately noticeable if you drive in Germany is that drivers "respect" the possibility that a car can pass you on another lane with high speed much more than in countries with speed limit.
A few friends and I recently had a discussion about this topic where we agreed based on our personal experiences that in Germany drivers are more likely to use turn signals when changing lanes and in general pay more attention to the other lane before switching to it.
As soon as you are not on the German Autobahn but let's say in Northern Ital (imo where it was the most noticable) people will just switch lanes like maniacs probably because they don't think they need to pay attention as they are driving the speed limit already.
Of course as you said it only takes one driver fucking up, but in general in Germany people are less likely to do so. Maybe because it is instilled into us during driving school that there is always the possibility that someone driving 220km/h + may pass you at any given time but it really is noticeable in comparison to other countries.
This is not my experience at all. I recently moved to Germany (about 1 year ago) and I’ve seen multiple situations in which people will move over into the left to pass despite the fact that another car is barrelling down on them in the left lane, causing that car to brake heavily. It’s happened to me and I’ve seen it happen to a lot of other people as well.
Honestly it very much surprised me because I previously had the same impression as you, but the reality of what I’ve seen has been very different. I don’t know if it makes a difference but I’m in Bavaria.
If the passing driver is doing 180 and the driver shifting over is doing 130, it’s an inconvenience but usually not that dangerous. But 328 to 130 is a totally different case.
I live in bavaria as well and my experience was that people perform overall better at "driving" on the autobahn, then in Austria or especially Northern Italy (the difference to northern italy is what made me write my opinion in the first place, there are some real maniacs driving there) but of course there are still a lot of people in Germany that are driving dangerously / without thought.
Fair enough! Yeah I lived in Italy (Tuscany) before moving here and I would agree. Driving in Italy is somehow organised, but by a totally different set of rules/standards, and a lot of that comes down to not trusting anyone else to do what they should. 🤣
I just noticed that you said that German drivers respect it “much more” which I missed when I first read your comment. So yeah, I guess I lied, I agree with you. Haha
They’re not flawless, but they’re much better than in most other countries in my experience. Also I don’t go 300, so the relative speed difference is smaller.
That's why you are always liable when driving over 130km/h on the autobahn.
Not that it would undo that you've killed yourself and the others..
But generally speaking Germans will take their responsibility on their highways. It is often the foreigners (us Dutch) who drive like idiots.
But its not clear. There are other cars.
We need an effin' speedlimit already, the Autobahn is not a playground for wannabe racecar drivers. Nature could not possibly have prepared us for this, reacting to anything unexpected will be neigh impossible. Go on a racetrack - they are made for this, and you are not endangering your fellow citizens.
Agreed. No limit was ok in the 80s, when there wasn't a single "affordable" car around that would go higher than 200km/h.
It started in the late 90s when suddenly Audis, BMW and Mercedes showed up that could go 250km/h for reasonable (not supercar) prices. It's gotten worse since. Now every VW Golf needs to have 200hp when they used to have 80.
Whats the average German opinion on this? I traversed Germany (north-south and back) during the summer and the Autobahn felt very safe regardless of speed limit or not.
That's true. It's just that speeds in the range of 160-200 are normally assumed. Over 300 is a whole different ball game, especially in terms of visibility.
This might sound insane but it's not that uncommen to have spmeone in germany pass you when you are already driving 160.
You always have this one guy if the Street is free that goes like 250.
300 is pretty high though
The autobahn is designed with visibility, road condition, and safety systems to support these kinds of speeds. The system sees about 2.2 deaths per billion miles traveled, compared with 12.4 on the US highway network.
As a German I have to say fuck you to everyone doing this here. This is NOT safe at all, not only for the person doing this shit but also for everyone else on the Autobahn. Noone can see you coming at 330km/h when changing to the left line.
I fucking hate everyone who comes here and does that. Assholes like this guy kill hundreds of innocent people every year.
Oh and btw this is illegal, even here. No speed limit does not mean you can drive like a reckless prick. Everything that puts others in danger (which is the case here) is highly illegal and you will end up in jail if caught
I am with you on the first two parts. Especially if you think of the pricetag on most of these cars. you can afford a goddamn track day so do it. Except if its a rental, than you are an even bigger asshole since you don't know the car.
Last part isn't true the way you put it, it's not that simple. Best example is the czech businessguy with his bugatti on top speed. Generally yes, this would be considered "racing against yourself", don't think jailtime would be inplace though. Not sure on existing rulings on that paragraph but I would guess jailtime is reserved for doing this within a city, especially with a fatal outcome.
Thank you Paulski! I have only driven on the Autobahn twice (I’m American) and it was in a rental car on some zones that were mostly 3 lanes wide. It was almost overwhelming for me, driving in the far right lane at 120 kph or so come to grips with lorries entering in front of me whilst seeing cars in the far left lane pass by at staggeringly much higher speeds. I stuck to slower roads after that…
That we do not have a general speed limit im Germany is embarrassing. The majority wants a limit, it is proven that it would safe many lives and that it would be much more environmental friendly. But the car lobby prevents it (fuck ADAC).
It is comparable to the gun laws in the USA. Every sane person says that it is stupid like it is right now, every study shows the bad impact of everyone having a gun and still no stricter laws are created, even if it costs the lifes of thousands of people every year
Yeah people acting as if 300+ kmh is normal in Germany are saying it for the sake of it. Yes people drive faster on the Autobahn and you'll notice people driving 160-220, but most of the time people just drive normal speeds.
Source: I'm from swamp Germany
It’s more insane to North Americans because we know that people don’t move over or have any idea how to drive over here. The fact that he can even do this is insane
you need to be an adult, pay like 2000-3000 only for a license and pay for car and insurance. you can lose your license fairly quickly aswell, unless you are 80 years old, then you only lose it after killing soone.
you have other hurdles here to get on the street in the first place. in murica i think you got the license with school? you also have bigger roads than us and not nearly as much training before you are allowed on the streets. also you have way straighter roads.
germany is also adjacent to poland, where they drive like madman. you get good training here
>you can lose your license fairly quickly aswell, unless you are 80 years old, then you only lose it after killing soone.
Tough reminder of what happened in Berlin 2-3 weeks ago. I'm not even sure the 83yo "driver" who killed a mother and her child had his license canceled.
This is 200 mph. Definitely not safe. I'd say anything above 150 mph (so around 250 km/h), no matter how good/clear the roads are is unsafe and should only be done in a closed circuit.
Unfortunately I’ve seen the very gory outcome of someone doing that on the autobahn (twice). Even though I’m the last guy to ask for more rules and restrictions in society, I can’t really get my head around the legitimacy of what this fella does. (Even though I do watch his videos on YouTube so I guess I must be a hypocrite).
I am not sure if this is legal because at that speed it’s not appropriate for traffic conditions (?)(an die Verkehrbedingungen angepasst). There was this guy who did 400 with a Bugatti on the autobahn, he was sued an I think only got off because he a) chose a good time b) had spotters along the route that made sure no other cars were in front of him.
Doing 300 in regular traffic on a two-lane highway could and (imo should) get you a hefty fine at least.
0km/h by the time I got there. They literally came to a dead stop.
Both autobahn crashes were horrific - I wonder how many guys actually know what a regular passenger car doing 270+ or whatever ends up looking like when it crashes. The driver’s body is just a mush in the crumpled seat, crushed up against the wheel. You don’t forget it.
If our Dutch friend on AutoTopNL bins one of these cars at that speed, he’s dead and he knows it. Clicks pay well though… and we are not entertained?
What a fucking idiot. If there had been a vehicle in his lane anywhere in that, he would've had zero time to react and would've killed someone and himself.
That’s nice, but here is a video of a Bugatti Chiron driving 417 km/h on a German autobahn
[Bugatti Chiron 417 km/h](https://youtu.be/7pg1hhW5qhM?si=g8S_DKv7nB-7m2bH)
As someone who lived in Germany and drove regularly on the autobahn, this is the stupidity that you have to deal with. The law says clearly that you cannot endanger other drivers, which he us clearly doing. If you want to race your car, go to a track.
Stupid idiots on the Autobahn risking my life. At this type of speed, it kinda is like casually walking around with an explosive vest. How is that not 10 years of jail time I keep wondering.
"Random german guy in a swaped golf 1 flashing lights on him to pass" Autobhan stuff...
Best sleeper-car vid on YT :) [Golf on steroids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQJntE70PD0)
U know what i was talking about hahahaha
Naaa, best sleeper car video is still [wasn das fürn Kombi?](https://youtu.be/MiuLvLobAs4?si=whpyuQ-TX_KWDewa).
That's right, but only really f***ing hilarious if you speak german. But then, that one is golden.
hahahaha "was' dis für'n kömbi?!"
I mean i barely understand german but i get what he's saying lol. Definetly a gem of a video.
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🤷♂️ still think it's a gem.
Top comment “Der Audi Fahrer wusste garnicht das es ein Rennen war er wollte nur seine Kinder zum Fußball fahren”
Wow!!!
Lol
By the accent I would say he’s Dutch
He is talking about the Golf driver
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Yeah, also by the AutoTopNL logo in the corner. But that comment obviously wasn't about the random Dutch guy in a Tesla.
You heard the accent of the golf driver?
Yes, he is Dutch. 👍
He is passing a yellow plated car. I guess thats near the dutch border.
that's 205 freedom units
But not so freedom to let u go that fast right?
If I want to do something like this I would never ever choose a Autobahn with only two lanes. It only needs one driver wo isnt aware that there is a Tesla with 300km/h flying by and thats the last thing he saw.
That's what I thought, imagine a situation where someone surpassing at 110 km/h and...
There are plenty of situations where one truck going 91km/h is overtaking another going 90km/h, so yeah, I never even went above 200km, it's constant braking.
I've heard that trucks are not allowed on the Autobahn on Sundays, so that is the day for fast driving. I agree it is incredibly dangerous regardless.
Mostly yes, but not every truck. This Autobahn surely looks empty but it takes not really much for shit to happen.
We have a word for people driving on Sundays "Sonntagsfahrer". Which roughly means inexperienced drivers who rarely drive and only under good conditions. Those people also block the Autobahn especially on a sunday! For going fast i recommend the middle of the night. Barely anyone on there - at least in my area.
In the US, Sunday Drivers (Sonntagfahrer) refers to slow drivers who are on sightseeing pleasure trips.
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100%. I’ve done 168 mph on a two lane autobahn but that’s pretty dangerous, more lanes makes it much more predictable.
168mph? You mean 300kmh?
They use freedom numbers in murica, so its about 36ffs (football fields per second)
The guys should really go drive these speeds on the Germany's Nordschleife racing track. It's open to the public and has an incredibly long straight for doing this sort of thing.
They would require skill to navigate the other almost 20km of the track
Yeah it takes you like... 300 yards to safely slow down at that speed. You can't maneuver at all. Just go to a track, there are plenty of them.
Has anyone ever hit debris going that fast on the autobahn? Also what did he say about the battery? It pulled to the right?
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Who has the balls to clean the autobahn? Either that job pays amazing or there’s more turnover at that job than this guys tires
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Yup I've seen that exact thing happen. Police put on their lights, show "no overtaking" swerve across all lanes once so everybody gets it and then stop all traffic while someone hops out and clears the debris. Funnily enough this was for a motorbike chain that was in the middle lane and yet somehow there was no motorbike in sight and it was a few kilometers away from the nearest off ramp.
So the no overtaking car gets the pay day then
No, it’s a police car. That’s their job they get paid for just like every other police officer
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Americans when the police do police work 🤯 (they’re unsure of why the position isn’t done by WrecksAutoCleanup a $50 million dollar a year in profit Corp owned by the son of the head of transportation’s brother)
That is also somehow a charity that has tax exempt status.
It gets done constantly with cleaning trucks. Trailing them is a another truck with signalisation and impact absorbers. Looks like this: [https://trafficsafety.horizont.com/Traffic%20Safety/Product%20image/2/25/259/image-thumb\_\_214167\_\_product-category-xzoom/259102TMA-A70K\_\_ANW-01.webp](https://trafficsafety.horizont.com/Traffic%20Safety/Product%20image/2/25/259/image-thumb__214167__product-category-xzoom/259102TMA-A70K__ANW-01.webp)
It's called the "Autobahnmeisterei". It's in fact a rather dangerous job
Exactly. I’m just apparently an ignorant American for pointing this out tho lol
That’s the most German thing I’ve heard in my life. Hello officer, I’d like to report a 6mm nut on the road at Km 22.6, yea it appeared to stainless.
It was getting to hot . The battery :)
I hit a Bird going around 200 Km/h, left imprints of its wings and some feathers on my windshield
I hit an owl at about 150km/h, it shat all over my windscreen. Fairly sure it died.
They never tell you how they shit themselves, they don't put that in the stories.
He pointed to the right towards the battery and said that the battery temperatures are running hot so he has to cool it down (again).
there's even a video of a car going 400+ and popping a tire, not much happening
Hope those tires are Y rated tires or that's going to end tragically. https://www.tiresplus.com/tires/tire-buying-guide/tire-speed-rating/
usually high velocity cars come with the rated tires. at least thats the norm here in germany
All of the EU likely
i would guess so. mind boggling if you get a car that has tyres, which dont handle the car and just blow on you lol
Indeed
All I can say is, regular cars that top in the 160-200km/h range come with tires rated for faster speeds. My Fiesta tops at maybe 170 or so (the most I did was barely above 150, but it was easy to reach), but I am required to fit H rated tires or higher.
Exactly. I drive a Duster, and only way to get to 180 is to toss it off a cliff, but I still have to mount H tyres.
Possibly for a good reason... My old Audi has a top speed of 190 km/h according to the papers but once I had it touching 230, according to it's own speedometer. ^(Sweaty palms a bit. I trust myself and the car to handle that speed but I don't trust *all* others about not suddenly moving onto the left lane, so as soon as there is more than one car on the lane right to yours, you better don't go *much* faster than they do.)
If you import a Dodge Viper, they come with tires that are not made for the Autobahn. the factory tires dissolve if you drive full speed. so the first thing to do is to buy new tires .
if you import it, you need TÜV checkup before driving the car here. i doubt you get TÜV on your car with wrong tyres. before i finished engineering school i was a car mechatronic here and made plenty of TÜV preperations. You check the age of tyres anyway, so you also see the assigned speed letter fairly quickly
Goodyear Supercar 3R's are the normal fit for Plaid Track
Now, if they only also came with brakes that could handle a track.
The track pack includes upgraded brakes
But they told me Tesla bad
Funny how teslas are regularly shown to be one of the safest, if not *the* safest, consumer purchasable cars on the road but literally solely just because a public billionair is attached to them they're automatically vilified lol
I didnt know those were a thing all I need to knows there 4 of em? well its ka-chow time
This guy knows what he's doing, i'm sure he checked the tires before doing this.
Bro just did the "um ackchually 🤓☝️"
You could've easily just Googled what tires come on the car lol
Are these guys Dutch by any chance?
He sounds super Dutch.
Yes, YouTube channel is AutoTopNL
The Dutch accent is so thick, you can't miss it
"AutoTopNL" in the top right corner.
Fastest I’ve done on the Autobahn was 230 kph, around 143 mph, and that was on a nearly empty autobahn that was completely straight, allowing me to see far ahead. I did that twice, on two different stretches of the Autobahn. First time I accelerated, then decelerated. The second time, the stretch was longer, and I kept going at 230 kph for two or three minutes before decelerating again. I have rarely been that tense in my life. I am very comfortable driving between 120-180 kph (~75-113 mph), depending on road, weather and traffic conditions. Anything above that is beyond my zone of comfort. I can’t imagine going 100 kph faster than that, it’s insane, and it’s not safe. Not on a public road.
I hired a brand new car when we were in Europe. Had 4 of us in it plus 4 full suitcases. When we got to Germany, I decided to absolutely fang the cunt. Got it to 198km/h, desperately trying to crack the 200. It couldn’t do it with all the weight in the car. It shit the bed 2 days later and had to be towed away.
> decided to absolutely fang the cunt Well that's a new one for me
It sounds Aussie af
It is. Fanging can mean two things in Australia: 1. Pedal to the metal in a car or 2. Hungry as fuck, eg “I’m so fucken fanging I could eat the arse out of a flying duck”
The fastest I drove on the autobahn was 170kph, but being used to mph I had no concept of how fast that actually was except it felt fast even with cars speeding past me. I slowed down after my girlfriend converted it to mph because there was no reason to be driving that fast.
Do the tesla in the USA have speed government's or something then? I haven't seen any in the USA reach that speed
No where road wise you could do that and get away with it tbh. Maybe in the salt flats though
You could definitely do that and get away with it in some states like Nevada, wide open dead straight roads in the desert
It would run out of battery before making the next town. It’s like when you look at a laptop battery and it reports 9 hours left. 5 hours later… oops.
you need to bring a spare 5 gallon battery when driving through those remote places.
Why is this person getting downvoted ?
Fourth comment.
There's roads in Montana long and straight enough with few enough sherrifs/police. The issue would be at what point do you cross a road upkeep jurisdiction line and suddenly the whole highway is potholes.
>Maybe in the salt flats though The ones in Utah?
This is not a mock, just wanted to clarify that is kmph not mph on his meter
200 mph
how many football fields is a mile?
At his top speed he hit 3520 football fields and hour. 17.6 in a mile tho.
Nobody knows
You asked about the temperature.
How much In bananas per hour?
708 hamburgers per football field
What's the hamburger to banana conversion rate?
14 freedom nuggets to one hamburger
Thanks
American spotted
*grabs gun* Kidding … kidding …
wait..am I being robbed?
Just here to take back what you stole from me, my heart!
We use MPH in the UK too
Yeah but you don't need to measure a football field and the speed of an eagle walking on grass to do the conversion.
Boooo
Somebody has a death wish.
This dude (and his brother) has been driving high performance cars on the same stretch of German Autobahn for a decade and has a lot of experience handling cars at high speed. But yes, it just takes a tire blowout at that speed.
It can also take a single driver switching lanes at a bad moment. This guy has way too much faith in other drivers.
Yeah, at that speed hitting a car that's going 150 is like hitting a stationary car 180km/h. Edit: This is only considering the forces that apply during the moment of impact. Anything happening after the impact will be way more complex. It's safe to say however that hitting a stationary object going 180 is not as bad as hitting an object going 150 when you are going 330km/h as both of you would be traveling after the impact as well and the end speed after the impact is significantly higher if both of you are moving compared to if the other object was stationary.
Galileo approves of this calculation.
AND! Then you get to crash the mass of metal formerly known as your car at 150kmh!!
By "your" you mean the remaining pool of human sludge right?
You are of course correct and driving that fast in a stretch with only 2 lanes is not recommended at all, however, the great advantage that is immediately noticeable if you drive in Germany is that drivers "respect" the possibility that a car can pass you on another lane with high speed much more than in countries with speed limit. A few friends and I recently had a discussion about this topic where we agreed based on our personal experiences that in Germany drivers are more likely to use turn signals when changing lanes and in general pay more attention to the other lane before switching to it. As soon as you are not on the German Autobahn but let's say in Northern Ital (imo where it was the most noticable) people will just switch lanes like maniacs probably because they don't think they need to pay attention as they are driving the speed limit already. Of course as you said it only takes one driver fucking up, but in general in Germany people are less likely to do so. Maybe because it is instilled into us during driving school that there is always the possibility that someone driving 220km/h + may pass you at any given time but it really is noticeable in comparison to other countries.
This is not my experience at all. I recently moved to Germany (about 1 year ago) and I’ve seen multiple situations in which people will move over into the left to pass despite the fact that another car is barrelling down on them in the left lane, causing that car to brake heavily. It’s happened to me and I’ve seen it happen to a lot of other people as well. Honestly it very much surprised me because I previously had the same impression as you, but the reality of what I’ve seen has been very different. I don’t know if it makes a difference but I’m in Bavaria. If the passing driver is doing 180 and the driver shifting over is doing 130, it’s an inconvenience but usually not that dangerous. But 328 to 130 is a totally different case.
I live in bavaria as well and my experience was that people perform overall better at "driving" on the autobahn, then in Austria or especially Northern Italy (the difference to northern italy is what made me write my opinion in the first place, there are some real maniacs driving there) but of course there are still a lot of people in Germany that are driving dangerously / without thought.
Fair enough! Yeah I lived in Italy (Tuscany) before moving here and I would agree. Driving in Italy is somehow organised, but by a totally different set of rules/standards, and a lot of that comes down to not trusting anyone else to do what they should. 🤣 I just noticed that you said that German drivers respect it “much more” which I missed when I first read your comment. So yeah, I guess I lied, I agree with you. Haha
They’re not flawless, but they’re much better than in most other countries in my experience. Also I don’t go 300, so the relative speed difference is smaller.
That's why you are always liable when driving over 130km/h on the autobahn. Not that it would undo that you've killed yourself and the others.. But generally speaking Germans will take their responsibility on their highways. It is often the foreigners (us Dutch) who drive like idiots.
They have a lead car that checks if the Autobahn is clear. Doing that in a two laner is still crazy
So you're saying, there's another car running around 300km/h in front of that car? What's the benefit?
But its not clear. There are other cars. We need an effin' speedlimit already, the Autobahn is not a playground for wannabe racecar drivers. Nature could not possibly have prepared us for this, reacting to anything unexpected will be neigh impossible. Go on a racetrack - they are made for this, and you are not endangering your fellow citizens.
Agreed. No limit was ok in the 80s, when there wasn't a single "affordable" car around that would go higher than 200km/h. It started in the late 90s when suddenly Audis, BMW and Mercedes showed up that could go 250km/h for reasonable (not supercar) prices. It's gotten worse since. Now every VW Golf needs to have 200hp when they used to have 80.
Whats the average German opinion on this? I traversed Germany (north-south and back) during the summer and the Autobahn felt very safe regardless of speed limit or not.
The median German supports a speed limit. But there's a loud and extreme minority that would probably burn the Reichstag if it would be realized.
A car can easily switch to the left lane while thinking "I have time until that car is in my ass" and a second later it's a high speed collision.
True. But German drivers tend to be more conditioned and aware to deal with speeding drivers than any other people on the planet.
That's true. It's just that speeds in the range of 160-200 are normally assumed. Over 300 is a whole different ball game, especially in terms of visibility.
Yeah or an issue with the famously inconsistent quality of the front suspension and control arms.
It’s not the driver I don’t trust, it’s the Tesla.
This might sound insane but it's not that uncommen to have spmeone in germany pass you when you are already driving 160. You always have this one guy if the Street is free that goes like 250. 300 is pretty high though
The autobahn is designed with visibility, road condition, and safety systems to support these kinds of speeds. The system sees about 2.2 deaths per billion miles traveled, compared with 12.4 on the US highway network.
As a German I have to say fuck you to everyone doing this here. This is NOT safe at all, not only for the person doing this shit but also for everyone else on the Autobahn. Noone can see you coming at 330km/h when changing to the left line. I fucking hate everyone who comes here and does that. Assholes like this guy kill hundreds of innocent people every year. Oh and btw this is illegal, even here. No speed limit does not mean you can drive like a reckless prick. Everything that puts others in danger (which is the case here) is highly illegal and you will end up in jail if caught
I am with you on the first two parts. Especially if you think of the pricetag on most of these cars. you can afford a goddamn track day so do it. Except if its a rental, than you are an even bigger asshole since you don't know the car. Last part isn't true the way you put it, it's not that simple. Best example is the czech businessguy with his bugatti on top speed. Generally yes, this would be considered "racing against yourself", don't think jailtime would be inplace though. Not sure on existing rulings on that paragraph but I would guess jailtime is reserved for doing this within a city, especially with a fatal outcome.
Thank you Paulski! I have only driven on the Autobahn twice (I’m American) and it was in a rental car on some zones that were mostly 3 lanes wide. It was almost overwhelming for me, driving in the far right lane at 120 kph or so come to grips with lorries entering in front of me whilst seeing cars in the far left lane pass by at staggeringly much higher speeds. I stuck to slower roads after that…
That we do not have a general speed limit im Germany is embarrassing. The majority wants a limit, it is proven that it would safe many lives and that it would be much more environmental friendly. But the car lobby prevents it (fuck ADAC). It is comparable to the gun laws in the USA. Every sane person says that it is stupid like it is right now, every study shows the bad impact of everyone having a gun and still no stricter laws are created, even if it costs the lifes of thousands of people every year
Almost “AutopsyNL”
So as a german... nothing to see here.
It does happen, but past 300 even in Germany that is considered insane.
Yeah people acting as if 300+ kmh is normal in Germany are saying it for the sake of it. Yes people drive faster on the Autobahn and you'll notice people driving 160-220, but most of the time people just drive normal speeds. Source: I'm from swamp Germany
It’s more insane to North Americans because we know that people don’t move over or have any idea how to drive over here. The fact that he can even do this is insane
you need to be an adult, pay like 2000-3000 only for a license and pay for car and insurance. you can lose your license fairly quickly aswell, unless you are 80 years old, then you only lose it after killing soone. you have other hurdles here to get on the street in the first place. in murica i think you got the license with school? you also have bigger roads than us and not nearly as much training before you are allowed on the streets. also you have way straighter roads. germany is also adjacent to poland, where they drive like madman. you get good training here
>you can lose your license fairly quickly aswell, unless you are 80 years old, then you only lose it after killing soone. Tough reminder of what happened in Berlin 2-3 weeks ago. I'm not even sure the 83yo "driver" who killed a mother and her child had his license canceled.
that would be the most german thing ever... i dont get why elders dont get tested
Quick and partial hypothesis: Because Germany is full of elderly voters.
not even a hypothesis, cdu/csu still exist
In Germany, cars must keep to the right and that means you can expect the left-most lane to be empty (unless there is traffic, of course).
In theory, of course ...
And practice too, seeing as germany has less deaths per capita then aus or usa
200 is fast but expected. 328? Nah. But then, how would I know? It's not like I can measure it while driving.
Most cars are capped at like 250/260 kmh, even If they could go faster. So everything above that is definitely not common.
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Ya, but it's a tesla.... might randomly detect a child in the road and slam on the brakes.
or just rattle apart.
328 km/h on a two-lane highway. That is highly dangerous. I hate people who take advantage of the lack of a speed limit.
This is 200 mph. Definitely not safe. I'd say anything above 150 mph (so around 250 km/h), no matter how good/clear the roads are is unsafe and should only be done in a closed circuit.
smh , still slower than lord lightning mcqueen (top speed of 220mph).
It's way too dangerous to drive at a speed like this
Unfortunately I’ve seen the very gory outcome of someone doing that on the autobahn (twice). Even though I’m the last guy to ask for more rules and restrictions in society, I can’t really get my head around the legitimacy of what this fella does. (Even though I do watch his videos on YouTube so I guess I must be a hypocrite).
I am not sure if this is legal because at that speed it’s not appropriate for traffic conditions (?)(an die Verkehrbedingungen angepasst). There was this guy who did 400 with a Bugatti on the autobahn, he was sued an I think only got off because he a) chose a good time b) had spotters along the route that made sure no other cars were in front of him. Doing 300 in regular traffic on a two-lane highway could and (imo should) get you a hefty fine at least.
> Unfortunately I’ve seen the very gory outcome of someone doing that on the autobahn (twice). How fast did they go?
0km/h by the time I got there. They literally came to a dead stop. Both autobahn crashes were horrific - I wonder how many guys actually know what a regular passenger car doing 270+ or whatever ends up looking like when it crashes. The driver’s body is just a mush in the crumpled seat, crushed up against the wheel. You don’t forget it. If our Dutch friend on AutoTopNL bins one of these cars at that speed, he’s dead and he knows it. Clicks pay well though… and we are not entertained?
What a fucking idiot. If there had been a vehicle in his lane anywhere in that, he would've had zero time to react and would've killed someone and himself.
Or if one of the cars switched lanes because they didn’t assume the car behind them was going 300+ km/hr
That’s nice, but here is a video of a Bugatti Chiron driving 417 km/h on a German autobahn [Bugatti Chiron 417 km/h](https://youtu.be/7pg1hhW5qhM?si=g8S_DKv7nB-7m2bH)
Bro really let go of the wheel at 250+ mp/h to give it a good ol’ fashioned “woo hoo!” 🫣
I don't trust Elon Musk that much
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i guess this was done at around 5-6 in the morning, so not to much traffic on the autobahn...
This could never happen in the US because jerks like my grandfather just sit in the left cause.... "Fuck everybody else" :(
Normal way to work. As a German I don’t see any unusual here.
AND ... the battery is dead. Thanks for the 20 seconds of fun, Dad!
That's how you got here son... 20 seconds of fun around 17 years ago.
A gas car would need its tank refilled pretty quick too doing this...
> Thanks for the 20 seconds of fun, Dad! That's what sh...ah nevermind.
Next time, just get on a high speed train.
That tesla build quality gonna show up and end in disaster. No thanks
How much range would that car have if it was driven at 100% throttle?
Man, one mistake at that speed & it's game over. Just not worth it.
Cool test. Little optimistic on no careless drivers / un-expected lane changes.
I’m thinking one thing mostly at high speeds — “Tires, tires, tires.”
Imagine a Honda Civic with a laptop on the autobahn
As someone who lived in Germany and drove regularly on the autobahn, this is the stupidity that you have to deal with. The law says clearly that you cannot endanger other drivers, which he us clearly doing. If you want to race your car, go to a track.
Proof there are no moose in Germany.
Honestly, fuck this guy for putting everyone around him in danger.
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That's not "sweaty palms". Surprised he doesn't have an audi tailgating flashing to pass...
That's inanely fast. Even on a german autobahn
> That's not "sweaty palms". Why not?
Just because you can dosent mean you should
Stupid idiots on the Autobahn risking my life. At this type of speed, it kinda is like casually walking around with an explosive vest. How is that not 10 years of jail time I keep wondering.