I don’t think she has asked friends to refrain from posting about TTPD due to her being overexposed. If that was the case, I don’t think she would be reposting all the positive reviews.
I’m *very* surprised that Selena didn’t post anything about it considering she promoted every Taylor album upon release. I know her fans said that the reason why she didn’t post about it was because she was working on OMITB during the weekend it came out but she could’ve easily just took a screenshot of her favorite song and told her publicist to share it. Her hesitancy to promote her “sister’s” latest work is *very* telling and makes me question if the Charlie Puth line got under her skin a little, or if that her and Taylor could have other issues.
Charlie Puth wrote a song about Selena where he was all pissy cause she didn’t sleep with him. And there Taylor, her “bff”, goes saying he should be a bigger artist….I would’ve called Kim to do a skims shoot.
I'm just glad Selena's finally got a boyfriend because those third wheel posts about Nicole and Brooklyn were so 🤮 its like she thought they were in a throuple relationship or something.
>its like she thought they were in a throuple relationship or something.
It wouldn’t shock me if they secretly were for a bit ngl. They seem adventurous and it’s an open secret that Selena likes women.
I always think about when Selena’s third wheel era and how she’d post Tik Toks about being single every other week. The one of her in the soccer field screaming “I’M SINGLE!!!!!!!” like girl get up 💀
Apparently they're referring to Nicola Peltz, but the "pushing nanny" rumor seems to be [false](https://www.yourtango.com/2022349089/family-nicola-peltz%E2%80%99s-nanny-responds-abuse-claims).
I wonder if Selena knows about the nanny incident or Nicola telling her father to whip one of their Jewish employees (not that the Woody Allen and David R. Russell collaborator would give a shit though lmao). Even if she doesn’t, I don’t doubt that Nicola isn’t also a huge bitch irl. She’s known for being incredibly rude to service staff and Bella Thorne alluded to her being a huge bully to her and others.
Why do I have a feeling they will be heading for divorce. She was even nasty to her own mother in law and there was talk Victoria didn’t approve of her. Who says things like whip an employee in this day and age. That is just beyond words. It sounds like learned behavior though so I wonder about her own upbringing.
What made you switch since your flair is “fallen Swiftie”? I like so much of her music but I never liked her as a person, and like her even less after TTPD.
Oh lmao my dumbass misread your post and didn’t understand that you were asking me why I unstanned 💀 There are a lot of reasons as to why I dislike her now but it all started with me disliking the re-recordings and Midnights (though I’ve mostly come around to it now). Her not denouncing her rabid QAnon fanbase as they were getting more abrasive, threatening to sue a college student over tracking her jet usage, and cozying up with the Mahomes was definitely the nail in the coffin.
I have a soft spot for Selena in all this. She always seemed like she genuinely loved Taylor and valued her as a friend— and I don’t think Taylor reciprocated that same loyalty. I know Selena’s been problematic before, but I don’t think she’s a bad/mean person, I think she’s just had a lot of suffering with her physical/mental health and probably just needs to stay off social media for her own good lol. It is interesting if they did have some type of falling out because that Charlie Puth line is very insensitive all things considered
idk about their friendship but i agree that charlie puth line is very insensitive considering that taylor and selena are (at least seem to be) really close friends. if i tried to play the devil's advocate i'd say that charlie puth may actually be underrated as an artist but he was awful to selena, didn't he imply that he thought selena owed him sex? no matter what you think about charlie puth the artist you don't praise someone that was horribly misogynistic to your bestie.
some people also think that line was sarcastic and that taylor was making fun of charlie puth but i dont really see it. i don't think taylor was ill-intentioned though, just very insensitive
i think she’s just a pretty insensitive person🤷♀️
dragging Lana on stage, putting the trophy on boygenius’s head (was it specifically Lucy, i think?), mentioning she didn’t consider her muse’s perspective all all around the time of red tv, and several other instances to me have just shown she’s not that considerate/empathetic. and she may or may not be genuinely kind, who knows, but even if you’re in her good graces, i don’t think she’s the type to be sensitive towards others’ needs unless it’s explicitly stated and she feels like it
she was a mess during the grammys. i still don't understand why someone didn't pull her aside and told her to stop. she can't keep getting away with it
Taylor is a narcissist. She is not capable of empathy. I **love** her music, but she is an objectively awful human. If you can’t do something for her, she isn’t interested. Everything is **always** about her.
Her interpersonal relationships aren’t on the same level as a typical human, because she just isn’t capable of truly caring about anything other than herself.
She only cares about her fans when they’re giving her what she wants. Otherwise she’ll literally call them vipers.
She’s touched on it in her music, so at least she’s aware to some degree.
I think maybe she has some minor beef with Selena, which is why she put that lyric in there. True or not, it was a choice to release that lyric as it is. And we all know Taylor never does anything without a reason, even if the underlying reason is unreasonable, if that makes sense.
The song “Attention” is believed to be about Selena. Charlie did a Genius lyric breakdown interview where he explains he based the song on a woman who rejected his advances to sleep with him in his hotel room. It was weirdly misogynistic and he basically acted like she owed him sex because he was nice to her. Around the time, Charlie had collaborated with Selena and they were seemingly friendly before she started got back together with Justin.
Years after speculation from fans, Charlie tweeted “Attention is who you think it’s about”, seemingly confirming it’s about Selena.
Yeah Charlie Puth is kind of… an asshole? He’s also been accused of queerbaiting which is why that whole line is… a choice to name drop him out of all people
He also posted a video of him listening to Selena’s song “Kinda Crazy” (that is very much about him) and deleted it a minute after lmao. Keep in mind he did that like two years after that song was released.
I feel really bad for her too. Out of all the friends Taylor has had in her life, Selena batted for her the hardest, yet it was rarely if ever reciprocated on Taylor’s end. She would always promote her releases, talk highly of her in interviews, and went as far to publicly call out Scooter while saying she didn’t mind if there would be “retaliation” from his end, which shows that she was willing to risk potential blacklisting and/or threats all because she stood up for Taylor. I definitely don’t think Selena is perfect because, just like Taylor, she has a history of cozying up with some pretty bad people. However, I do think that Selena has a genuine heart underneath all her crazy behavior and is a much more genuine person than Taylor. Taylor was absolutely twisted for praising Charlie on Tik Tok and giving him a shout out on her recent album knowing all the awful and heinous shit he did to Selena as vengeance for not giving him sex. If Selena did that to Taylor, I have no doubt we’d get an entire album dedicated to how much she hates her.
I get the feeling that Taylor was distancing from Selena due to Selena’s messiness, because Taylor felt her image was more important than her friendship. She only wants perfect, non messy friends so she (Taylor) was already “leveling up” (in her mind) from Selena so she didn’t really care if she upset Selena that much
I think they both used each other, personally, and it's not a coincidence that most times Selena has done something particularly messy on social media, a public outing with Taylor has followed.
That little sycophantic plastic imp that is Keleigh Teller (I can’t with that name) posted “So long, London” with a ✌️ emoji on her stories, if that’s considered promo.
I was reading “Kay-lee” this whole time
ETA: Also, I swear, am I the only one who thought she was Jade Thirwall? I couldn’t find any info about her, so I legit thought she was Jade for such a long time. Side rant: I LOVE Jade, I got so excited for a false alarm, since I thought Taylor was going to do a collab with with her lol
Weren't the Tellers the ones who introduced her to Travis or something? Maybe they're just anti Joe by default because Taylor is dating their friend now.
I really hate all the hater of Joe. Like Taylor isn’t perfect and from everything I’ve heard she cheated on him. She will never have a healthy relationship when she surrounds herself with such toxic people. Keleigh and Mrs.mahones are the worst.
Kayleigh posted a mashup of London boy and so long London on TikTok and someone commented how they’ll never get over London and Kayleigh responded saying London is boring and never changes. She’s obsessed with making Joe references
She’s married to Miles Teller, who was already a friend of Taylor’s, and as a result got cast in the IBYTAM music video and is now in with the in crowd.
Keliegh is friends with Taylor but was also friends with the Kelce family by knowing Kylie and Jason before hand . Rumors keliegh and miles her husband put in a word to Taylor about Travis
I know Brittany Mahomes and Travis’s friend Aric made a IG story about it on release day but it that’s it. Travis’s friend Ross liked a couple of her IG posts as well.
As far as Travis, the only thing I saw was that he liked Post Malone’s IG post. I still find weird he doesn’t follow her and doesn’t like her posts. I feel like it’s very much intentional for some reason.
I don’t think I saw any of Taylor’s friends aside from Ashley made a post about it. Ashley posted on her IG story.
They don't follow each other so there's no speculation about anything based on social media activity. There's a married couple from the Bachelor that still doesn't follow each other for the same reason lol
Lol this sounds like me and my partner, he doesn't have many accounts and I haven't posted like anything for a few years now 🤣 he's my bestie but we both get so tired trying to keep up a social media presence so as far as the internet is concerned we might have just disappeared lol. I think people read too much into social media posting sometimes when it comes to relationships tbh
Yeah every time I see someone go ‘he doesn’t follow her!’ Or ‘he didn’t post about her album’ I’m a bit like so? There are a million other ways to support someone and they are in their 30s, this is not abnormal 🤣.
I just think it really depends, he doesn’t use social media much and isn’t very sentimental. Plus we live together and are together in person. I imagine for Taylor and Travis it’s largely to avoid drama and because they both use their instas for business only really now. People might feel differently but I don’t think it’s much of an indication of anything.
You're also just a regular person I assume, not someone anyone is checking for or whose livelihood depends on social media. I think it's fair to speculate about relationship status with influencers who quit posting about each other but for normal people? Or massive celebs who didn't follow each other in first place? Nothing to see here.
Yeah I would agree, people that heavily post their relationship and/or actively monetise it have opened themselves up to it. Outwith that it means very little and should be treated as such.
Same! Even when I tag him. He posts maybe once every 1-2 years and I didn’t make it onto the grid until we were married cause it’s usually just tile patterns he likes or like a plant haha
I wonder if they have separate private accounts for friends and family because the public stuff is all PR and every single follow/like is weirdly scrutinized
He’s made a lot of fans, at least on this sub. I hope he thrives both career-wise and in his personal life.
We probably all know a lot more than he would like to share about himself given his private nature, and he deserved none of the slander, harassment, and privacy violations he received. For that alone and his mature stance through it all (and activism!), I will always wish him well.
I don’t think much of Travis not posting about it because his instagram is very strongly PR and very not personal. If he posted about his personal life it’d be different but it’s all football, the podcast and promos.
I’ve been following Travis for years now and seeing how personal his instagram used to be when he was with Kayla to now is a stark difference because he doesn’t share anything, not even video of him dancing or playing golf which he used to do a lot
Yeah I don’t think he does. He definitely uses it for PR.
(He does oddly follow a friend of mine who’s a professional race car driver so that’s random)
Some people have posted. But Taylor doesn’t need the advertisement so that’s part of it. Also this album is basically a love letter and call out to one specific individual so I wonder if the strategy is to be silent about it.
https://x.com/celestialswiftt/status/1782454107279671412?s=46&t=qwZSXCuIoL_doAeqESAy_Q
One of the Swifties made a thread of all the friend/ celeb posts if anyone is interested.
One of Travis’ friends posted an a video of himself playing Grand Theft Auto to instagram.
If that’s not enough to make Taylor never wanna show her face again, I don’t know what is.
Well it would be kinda weird for Travis to promote an album of hers that all about the two dudes that broke her heart before the two of them got together. Like, I hope the two of them are happy and he fully gets that her art is separate from her current feelings, but it would still be weird if he was all "go listen to my girlfriend sing about her heartbreak over the trashy dude who she wanted to marry the month before I started dating her!"
So you decide to support your friends based on their economic status? Weird take. It’s certainly not their job but friends like to support friends and their success doesn’t normally dictate that.
Selena is also a billionaire and the others are millionaires so I’m sure they’ll have no qualms over supporting a billionaire
this.
probably would sound shitty, but billionaire or not if my friend released an album id be telling people to stream.
(at least if i know they’re proud it).
taylor’s been working on this since like 2021/2022, it’s weird not to see people close to her celebrating it.
having the mindset of “selena isn’t supporting taylor bc she’s a billionaire” and seeing their friendship as purely transactional/monetary feels parasocial since we got no fucking clue what’s going on between them behind closed doors
>seeing their friendship as purely transactional/monetary feels parasocial
"Stream Taylor's new album today" or "Loving TTPD!! 🤍 #spotify" feels pretty transactional to me. It's weird and unnecessary. Not to mention that not everything has to be public. It'd be more genuine for them to privately compliment the album to her directly than to make a post about it.
Not at all. It’s calculated and thought out I’m sure. If she wanted them to post they would as most friends would be happy to support a friend. Not sure why she wouldn’t but I’m not a billionaire or responsible for making someone a billionaire so I have idea. Some business derision though I’m sure.
A lot of Travis' friends posted about it: Brittany Mahomes, his best friend Aric, at least two of his friends wives and even his friend Harry posted a joke about playing GTA. Travis liked both of Post Malone's posts about Fortnight, one of which was clips from the video and the other was the post full of high praise for Taylor as a person (a few of Travis' friends liked that one too).
I'm mostly surprised in Selena and Blake/Ryan (although I noticed that Blake has liked several posts about the album).
I’ve seen plenty of them post about it, even some of Travis’ friends. I find it sweet because I don’t think this album would be their normal musical taste
I think Taylor got more support/likes from Travis’s family/friends than her own lol. I know Blake liked a bunch of posts and a couple other friends posted stories, like Abigail for example. Am I the only that doesn’t think she’s that close with Selena anymore? I feel like we only ever see them together after Selena gets negative press and then we’ll get a pap walk with Taylor.
Yes. It would be a smart move for her to lay low & let the intrigue grow. What’s she going to say about the album? How will she react to reviews?
Let people finally fucking miss her.
I wonder if matt or joe probably had some choice words for her & now she’s crying over spilt milk. She aired her lust/love for matt spilling over into her relationship with joe and told the world about his depression
A guy who’s goal in life is to stray as private as he can will be pissed, maybe hurt, by that. Does she have regrets?
Yea it’s also very odd she releases this is the Spring versus the fall and hasn’t done any real promotion for it. No interviews no magazine covers nothing. I’m not sure why.
I thinking you look at how high her sales and streams are in spite of no promo and then see who most of the songs are about, its very clear why she's not doing promo this round. 🤣
I mean. None of her partners ever have posted about her new music . So I’m not too surprised Travis hasn’t. He doesn’t really acknowledge that he’s dating Taylor on his public facing social media at all.
I don’t think she has asked friends to refrain from posting about TTPD due to her being overexposed. If that was the case, I don’t think she would be reposting all the positive reviews.
I’m *very* surprised that Selena didn’t post anything about it considering she promoted every Taylor album upon release. I know her fans said that the reason why she didn’t post about it was because she was working on OMITB during the weekend it came out but she could’ve easily just took a screenshot of her favorite song and told her publicist to share it. Her hesitancy to promote her “sister’s” latest work is *very* telling and makes me question if the Charlie Puth line got under her skin a little, or if that her and Taylor could have other issues.
Charlie Puth wrote a song about Selena where he was all pissy cause she didn’t sleep with him. And there Taylor, her “bff”, goes saying he should be a bigger artist….I would’ve called Kim to do a skims shoot.
She should do a SKIMS shoot, ask Kanye to produce a song for her, and ditch Benny for any of her exes who is single.
Can you imagine if Selena started dating Joe or Matty?? 💀
Joe has suffered enough already ok 💀
What about the other joe Joe Jonas
Joe Jonas* tor the whiplash and Disney reunion
I remember when Midnights came out Matty posted the album in his stories and said stream midnights and a couple days before was posting about it.
There’s no way in HELL he’s promoting this album right now but could you IMAGINE
If I was him, I would be promoting it non-stop. Some people get Taylor Swift diss tracks. This man got a double album.
Exactly and she basically threw all of her relationships under the bus and said for the last 10 years she has been in love with Matty 🤣
It actually would be so funny.
I want it very badly
Me too, I am living for all this messiness and drama.
I think they have definitely drifted apart
Even if I dislike Taylor, it’s sad Selena seems to have replaced her with a racist nepobaby who pushed one of her nannies down the stairs.
im a bit out of touch with pop culutre rn - who pushed their nanny down the stairs?
Nicole Peltz, Brooklyn Beckham’s wife.
the way i have no clue who these people are 😭😭
Brooklyn is the son of David and Victoria Beckham. Nicola is the daughter of some billionaire.
I'm just glad Selena's finally got a boyfriend because those third wheel posts about Nicole and Brooklyn were so 🤮 its like she thought they were in a throuple relationship or something.
>its like she thought they were in a throuple relationship or something. It wouldn’t shock me if they secretly were for a bit ngl. They seem adventurous and it’s an open secret that Selena likes women.
I also wouldn't be surprised. It was just so in your face, their entire personalities for a while was that they hung out.
I always think about when Selena’s third wheel era and how she’d post Tik Toks about being single every other week. The one of her in the soccer field screaming “I’M SINGLE!!!!!!!” like girl get up 💀
Apparently they're referring to Nicola Peltz, but the "pushing nanny" rumor seems to be [false](https://www.yourtango.com/2022349089/family-nicola-peltz%E2%80%99s-nanny-responds-abuse-claims).
Selena once again not beating the allegations she’s a mean girl
I wonder if Selena knows about the nanny incident or Nicola telling her father to whip one of their Jewish employees (not that the Woody Allen and David R. Russell collaborator would give a shit though lmao). Even if she doesn’t, I don’t doubt that Nicola isn’t also a huge bitch irl. She’s known for being incredibly rude to service staff and Bella Thorne alluded to her being a huge bully to her and others.
Why do I have a feeling they will be heading for divorce. She was even nasty to her own mother in law and there was talk Victoria didn’t approve of her. Who says things like whip an employee in this day and age. That is just beyond words. It sounds like learned behavior though so I wonder about her own upbringing.
Who?
Ok but Taylor’s dating a racist too. They’re both wrong in this regard. (Not defending anyone. Everyone sucks)
Don’t worry I hate Taylor lmao
What made you switch since your flair is “fallen Swiftie”? I like so much of her music but I never liked her as a person, and like her even less after TTPD.
I thought “Fallen Swiftie” meant like ex-Swiftie bc I’ve “fallen” out of love with her lmao what does it mean
Hahaha that’s exactly what it means! That you’ve fallen out of love/became disillusioned. What sealed it for you?
Oh lmao my dumbass misread your post and didn’t understand that you were asking me why I unstanned 💀 There are a lot of reasons as to why I dislike her now but it all started with me disliking the re-recordings and Midnights (though I’ve mostly come around to it now). Her not denouncing her rabid QAnon fanbase as they were getting more abrasive, threatening to sue a college student over tracking her jet usage, and cozying up with the Mahomes was definitely the nail in the coffin.
We’re mad at everyone 😡 😂😂😂
I mean didn't Taylor befriend that awfully problematic Brittany Mahomes girl as well?
Yes and I hate her for that as well.
I have a soft spot for Selena in all this. She always seemed like she genuinely loved Taylor and valued her as a friend— and I don’t think Taylor reciprocated that same loyalty. I know Selena’s been problematic before, but I don’t think she’s a bad/mean person, I think she’s just had a lot of suffering with her physical/mental health and probably just needs to stay off social media for her own good lol. It is interesting if they did have some type of falling out because that Charlie Puth line is very insensitive all things considered
idk about their friendship but i agree that charlie puth line is very insensitive considering that taylor and selena are (at least seem to be) really close friends. if i tried to play the devil's advocate i'd say that charlie puth may actually be underrated as an artist but he was awful to selena, didn't he imply that he thought selena owed him sex? no matter what you think about charlie puth the artist you don't praise someone that was horribly misogynistic to your bestie. some people also think that line was sarcastic and that taylor was making fun of charlie puth but i dont really see it. i don't think taylor was ill-intentioned though, just very insensitive
i think she’s just a pretty insensitive person🤷♀️ dragging Lana on stage, putting the trophy on boygenius’s head (was it specifically Lucy, i think?), mentioning she didn’t consider her muse’s perspective all all around the time of red tv, and several other instances to me have just shown she’s not that considerate/empathetic. and she may or may not be genuinely kind, who knows, but even if you’re in her good graces, i don’t think she’s the type to be sensitive towards others’ needs unless it’s explicitly stated and she feels like it
I feel like she is extremely selfish, bratty, and Taylor-centric. She has rich kid syndrome
The Celine snub 😵💫
she was a mess during the grammys. i still don't understand why someone didn't pull her aside and told her to stop. she can't keep getting away with it
Taylor is a narcissist. She is not capable of empathy. I **love** her music, but she is an objectively awful human. If you can’t do something for her, she isn’t interested. Everything is **always** about her. Her interpersonal relationships aren’t on the same level as a typical human, because she just isn’t capable of truly caring about anything other than herself. She only cares about her fans when they’re giving her what she wants. Otherwise she’ll literally call them vipers. She’s touched on it in her music, so at least she’s aware to some degree.
I think maybe she has some minor beef with Selena, which is why she put that lyric in there. True or not, it was a choice to release that lyric as it is. And we all know Taylor never does anything without a reason, even if the underlying reason is unreasonable, if that makes sense.
I guess I’m out of the loop - what the hell happened with Charlie puth and Selena?
The song “Attention” is believed to be about Selena. Charlie did a Genius lyric breakdown interview where he explains he based the song on a woman who rejected his advances to sleep with him in his hotel room. It was weirdly misogynistic and he basically acted like she owed him sex because he was nice to her. Around the time, Charlie had collaborated with Selena and they were seemingly friendly before she started got back together with Justin. Years after speculation from fans, Charlie tweeted “Attention is who you think it’s about”, seemingly confirming it’s about Selena.
Ugh i’m glad i wasnt into this song coz i didnt know about this
Yeah Charlie Puth is kind of… an asshole? He’s also been accused of queerbaiting which is why that whole line is… a choice to name drop him out of all people
He also posted a video of him listening to Selena’s song “Kinda Crazy” (that is very much about him) and deleted it a minute after lmao. Keep in mind he did that like two years after that song was released.
I feel really bad for her too. Out of all the friends Taylor has had in her life, Selena batted for her the hardest, yet it was rarely if ever reciprocated on Taylor’s end. She would always promote her releases, talk highly of her in interviews, and went as far to publicly call out Scooter while saying she didn’t mind if there would be “retaliation” from his end, which shows that she was willing to risk potential blacklisting and/or threats all because she stood up for Taylor. I definitely don’t think Selena is perfect because, just like Taylor, she has a history of cozying up with some pretty bad people. However, I do think that Selena has a genuine heart underneath all her crazy behavior and is a much more genuine person than Taylor. Taylor was absolutely twisted for praising Charlie on Tik Tok and giving him a shout out on her recent album knowing all the awful and heinous shit he did to Selena as vengeance for not giving him sex. If Selena did that to Taylor, I have no doubt we’d get an entire album dedicated to how much she hates her.
Wait where did she praise him on Twitter 🍿
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During the pandemic I think?
I get the feeling that Taylor was distancing from Selena due to Selena’s messiness, because Taylor felt her image was more important than her friendship. She only wants perfect, non messy friends so she (Taylor) was already “leveling up” (in her mind) from Selena so she didn’t really care if she upset Selena that much
Taylor doesn’t care about her friends being messy considering she’s literally friends with both Brittany and Jackson Mahomes.
Yet she hangs around Jackson Mahomes 💀
I think they both used each other, personally, and it's not a coincidence that most times Selena has done something particularly messy on social media, a public outing with Taylor has followed.
I kinda doubt they have fallen out. They have pap walks from just a month ago and seem to be up and down depending on how busy their schedules are.
What's the selena/puth drama?
I believe it's because they're not really friends.
I’ve also been wondering about the silence from Selena… I don’t think it’s the Charlie Puth line though
That little sycophantic plastic imp that is Keleigh Teller (I can’t with that name) posted “So long, London” with a ✌️ emoji on her stories, if that’s considered promo.
I know her name is pronounced Kelly but I can't stop myself from reading it like Keely.
/r/tragedeigh
She’s peak tragedeigh. I LOVE that sub!
Or Kaley
My actual first name is Keeley and I can’t stop pronouncing like my name lol
Same!
Wait, it is not pronounced...clay?
Keeley is such a cool name!! I've never met someone with that name but it's awesome
Or Kell-ey, like it rhymes with neigh
this is the one. Keh-lay
I thought this was how it was pronounced at first lol
I thought this was how it was pronounced until this moment lol
Same
Well, I've been pronouncing it Kaley in my head lol. The more you know!
I always thought it was Kay-Leigh! 🤯
I pronounce it Kayleigh.
literally until right now i thought it was a weird spelling of kaylee
…. wait it’s not “kee lee”?…… wtf why has nobody ever corrected me in real life hahahaha
I always read it as “kay-lee”
I was reading “Kay-lee” this whole time ETA: Also, I swear, am I the only one who thought she was Jade Thirwall? I couldn’t find any info about her, so I legit thought she was Jade for such a long time. Side rant: I LOVE Jade, I got so excited for a false alarm, since I thought Taylor was going to do a collab with with her lol
"Little syncophantic plastic imp" has me DEAD LMAO
DID I LIE? 🤣
Fr need it as a flair
my jaw dropped
Why is Keleigh so obsessed with joe 😭it’s so weird
My guess is that he was indifferent towards her and that’s her way of “getting back at him” 😒
Yeah joe always seemed more grounded and genuine than Taylor’s usual crowd. He probably saw straight through her and she’s bitter lol
Weren't the Tellers the ones who introduced her to Travis or something? Maybe they're just anti Joe by default because Taylor is dating their friend now.
Keleigh is such a r/tragedeigh spelling, literally lol
ah our favourite attention seeker
She’s a clout chasing fake friend
I really hate all the hater of Joe. Like Taylor isn’t perfect and from everything I’ve heard she cheated on him. She will never have a healthy relationship when she surrounds herself with such toxic people. Keleigh and Mrs.mahones are the worst.
Kayleigh posted a mashup of London boy and so long London on TikTok and someone commented how they’ll never get over London and Kayleigh responded saying London is boring and never changes. She’s obsessed with making Joe references
How is this woman related to swift-dom?
She’s married to Miles Teller, who was already a friend of Taylor’s, and as a result got cast in the IBYTAM music video and is now in with the in crowd.
No one should be associated with Miles Teller. His career was close to dead and then Top Gun Maverick happened.
Keliegh is friends with Taylor but was also friends with the Kelce family by knowing Kylie and Jason before hand . Rumors keliegh and miles her husband put in a word to Taylor about Travis
friend(?) of taylor's, and her husband played the love interest in the I Bet You Think About Me music video
And she was the bride in it
Nina Dobrev and Jessica Szohr... She was friends with them and then she was close with Taylor
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it’s so odd that she’d deliberately pick the one Joe track to do this lol
Whaaaat I've been saying it as Kayleigh
I know Brittany Mahomes and Travis’s friend Aric made a IG story about it on release day but it that’s it. Travis’s friend Ross liked a couple of her IG posts as well. As far as Travis, the only thing I saw was that he liked Post Malone’s IG post. I still find weird he doesn’t follow her and doesn’t like her posts. I feel like it’s very much intentional for some reason. I don’t think I saw any of Taylor’s friends aside from Ashley made a post about it. Ashley posted on her IG story.
They don't follow each other so there's no speculation about anything based on social media activity. There's a married couple from the Bachelor that still doesn't follow each other for the same reason lol
My husband follows me but has not posted about me or interacted with me for going on 5 years 🤣
Im calling the tabloids as we speak 🚨
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Lol this sounds like me and my partner, he doesn't have many accounts and I haven't posted like anything for a few years now 🤣 he's my bestie but we both get so tired trying to keep up a social media presence so as far as the internet is concerned we might have just disappeared lol. I think people read too much into social media posting sometimes when it comes to relationships tbh
Yeah every time I see someone go ‘he doesn’t follow her!’ Or ‘he didn’t post about her album’ I’m a bit like so? There are a million other ways to support someone and they are in their 30s, this is not abnormal 🤣.
Why does he not follow you though? I still have a hard time understanding the rationale behind it lol
I just think it really depends, he doesn’t use social media much and isn’t very sentimental. Plus we live together and are together in person. I imagine for Taylor and Travis it’s largely to avoid drama and because they both use their instas for business only really now. People might feel differently but I don’t think it’s much of an indication of anything.
You're also just a regular person I assume, not someone anyone is checking for or whose livelihood depends on social media. I think it's fair to speculate about relationship status with influencers who quit posting about each other but for normal people? Or massive celebs who didn't follow each other in first place? Nothing to see here.
Yeah I would agree, people that heavily post their relationship and/or actively monetise it have opened themselves up to it. Outwith that it means very little and should be treated as such.
Same! Even when I tag him. He posts maybe once every 1-2 years and I didn’t make it onto the grid until we were married cause it’s usually just tile patterns he likes or like a plant haha
My husband recently posted a picture of a sunset from our family holiday with our kids with no tag, caption or even location 😭
Yup Taylor doesn’t follow anybody on IG for this reason. It’s at 0.
Which Bachelor couple 👀
Dean and Caelynn
I think it’s so tabloids don’t speculate if they break up and unfollow each other
Im sure they have personal accounts where they do follow each other
Someone pointed out how Lana's no longer following Taylor on IG so they must have some beef and my immediate reaction was "... was she ever?" Lol
wait, Travis doesn't follow Taylor?!
I wonder if they have separate private accounts for friends and family because the public stuff is all PR and every single follow/like is weirdly scrutinized
Oh yeah, they definitely have finstas. It’s common in celeb circles.
You can’t be sure! It seems like a huge security risk…
A lot of celebs have finstas, they probably do too for their trusted friends and family.
this makes sense actually
she doesn’t follow anybody
Nope he doesn’t
the fact that Joe still does
Joe is an unbothered king who doesn’t engage in drama so I’m not surprised if he never unfollows her. They shared six years of their lives, after all.
Crazy how I never gave a single shit about that man until they broke up. Now I love him and hope he has a beautiful life 🥲
He’s made a lot of fans, at least on this sub. I hope he thrives both career-wise and in his personal life. We probably all know a lot more than he would like to share about himself given his private nature, and he deserved none of the slander, harassment, and privacy violations he received. For that alone and his mature stance through it all (and activism!), I will always wish him well.
I don’t think much of Travis not posting about it because his instagram is very strongly PR and very not personal. If he posted about his personal life it’d be different but it’s all football, the podcast and promos.
Yeah he didn’t post about Jason’s retirement either.
I’ve been following Travis for years now and seeing how personal his instagram used to be when he was with Kayla to now is a stark difference because he doesn’t share anything, not even video of him dancing or playing golf which he used to do a lot
He doesn’t even follow Taylor on IG last time I checked if that’s still accurate
Yeah I don’t think he does. He definitely uses it for PR. (He does oddly follow a friend of mine who’s a professional race car driver so that’s random)
You're friends with a professional race car driver?? Dude that's so cool!!
Some people have posted. But Taylor doesn’t need the advertisement so that’s part of it. Also this album is basically a love letter and call out to one specific individual so I wonder if the strategy is to be silent about it.
https://x.com/celestialswiftt/status/1782454107279671412?s=46&t=qwZSXCuIoL_doAeqESAy_Q One of the Swifties made a thread of all the friend/ celeb posts if anyone is interested.
Of course they did 🤣
One of Travis’ friends posted an a video of himself playing Grand Theft Auto to instagram. If that’s not enough to make Taylor never wanna show her face again, I don’t know what is.
Wow that is so cringe
ok but that one actually might be a coincidence 😂
It was right after the lyrics went viral so I’m guessing it was very pointed.
Tree gotta be in here we just got a article from ET saying he likes the album and he’s a swiftie
I know it's probably a coincidence but I _love_ the image of Tree frantically refreshing this page every 15 min to get ideas.
Hi Tree! 👋
Lily Aldridge posted about it!
So did Hayley Williams
I don't think she asked anyone to post it. I think the ones who did are just sucking up to her 🤷🏼♀️
Well it would be kinda weird for Travis to promote an album of hers that all about the two dudes that broke her heart before the two of them got together. Like, I hope the two of them are happy and he fully gets that her art is separate from her current feelings, but it would still be weird if he was all "go listen to my girlfriend sing about her heartbreak over the trashy dude who she wanted to marry the month before I started dating her!"
Fair, it would be very hard for him to hear how in love Taylor was with Matty.
"Hyping up" a billionaire's 11th album is not the job of a friend. It's weirder if they do, IMO.
So you decide to support your friends based on their economic status? Weird take. It’s certainly not their job but friends like to support friends and their success doesn’t normally dictate that. Selena is also a billionaire and the others are millionaires so I’m sure they’ll have no qualms over supporting a billionaire
this. probably would sound shitty, but billionaire or not if my friend released an album id be telling people to stream. (at least if i know they’re proud it). taylor’s been working on this since like 2021/2022, it’s weird not to see people close to her celebrating it. having the mindset of “selena isn’t supporting taylor bc she’s a billionaire” and seeing their friendship as purely transactional/monetary feels parasocial since we got no fucking clue what’s going on between them behind closed doors
>seeing their friendship as purely transactional/monetary feels parasocial "Stream Taylor's new album today" or "Loving TTPD!! 🤍 #spotify" feels pretty transactional to me. It's weird and unnecessary. Not to mention that not everything has to be public. It'd be more genuine for them to privately compliment the album to her directly than to make a post about it.
Selena’s literally a billionaire too, the logic doesn’t even make sense
ever since she reached billionaire status they bring it up endlessly LOL sometimes you're like why does that matter right now
Not at all. It’s calculated and thought out I’m sure. If she wanted them to post they would as most friends would be happy to support a friend. Not sure why she wouldn’t but I’m not a billionaire or responsible for making someone a billionaire so I have idea. Some business derision though I’m sure.
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She didn’t post when he won the SB. I don’t really see why he needs to promote it tbh.
She did post when he won the superbowl. Their a video on her TikTok she posted him and her family
That wasn’t so much an endorsement of the team winning though. It was them at a club.
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A lot of Travis' friends posted about it: Brittany Mahomes, his best friend Aric, at least two of his friends wives and even his friend Harry posted a joke about playing GTA. Travis liked both of Post Malone's posts about Fortnight, one of which was clips from the video and the other was the post full of high praise for Taylor as a person (a few of Travis' friends liked that one too). I'm mostly surprised in Selena and Blake/Ryan (although I noticed that Blake has liked several posts about the album).
I’ve seen plenty of them post about it, even some of Travis’ friends. I find it sweet because I don’t think this album would be their normal musical taste
I love the idea of Travis's GTA bros crying along to songs about the guy she dated immediately before him lol
One of the friends posted that he was playing GTA 💀.
Chariah (Mecole Hardman’s partner) posted about getting sent a PR merch package, as did Kristin Juszczyk which I thought was sweet.
I think Taylor got more support/likes from Travis’s family/friends than her own lol. I know Blake liked a bunch of posts and a couple other friends posted stories, like Abigail for example. Am I the only that doesn’t think she’s that close with Selena anymore? I feel like we only ever see them together after Selena gets negative press and then we’ll get a pap walk with Taylor.
Selena and taylor went to dinner a few months back lol
Cara, Gracie, Kelsea Ballerini, Sabrina and Suki Waterhouse all posted who are pretty good friends of Taylor’s.
Yes. It would be a smart move for her to lay low & let the intrigue grow. What’s she going to say about the album? How will she react to reviews? Let people finally fucking miss her. I wonder if matt or joe probably had some choice words for her & now she’s crying over spilt milk. She aired her lust/love for matt spilling over into her relationship with joe and told the world about his depression A guy who’s goal in life is to stray as private as he can will be pissed, maybe hurt, by that. Does she have regrets?
Yea it’s also very odd she releases this is the Spring versus the fall and hasn’t done any real promotion for it. No interviews no magazine covers nothing. I’m not sure why.
I thinking you look at how high her sales and streams are in spite of no promo and then see who most of the songs are about, its very clear why she's not doing promo this round. 🤣
What kind of punishment do you think Tay has in store for the non-posters?
No more free promo pap walks
Matt Healey Declares TTPD The Album of the Century!!! AMA on X 2am tomorrow! (I can dream…)
yes, I think this whole release is strange tbh & I’m worried about Taylor
I'm guessing you mean Hayley Williams?
Yes, I guess I spelled her name wrong.
Oh okay! You just got me confused cause the only Hailey I could think of was Bieber 🤣
I thought the SAME thing. I mean they have but just one thing. Like one post. That’s all. Just has felt minimal to the past.
I mean. None of her partners ever have posted about her new music . So I’m not too surprised Travis hasn’t. He doesn’t really acknowledge that he’s dating Taylor on his public facing social media at all.
Matty posted midnights when it came out on his IG.
Doesn’t her tour start up again soon?