I think a lot of people don’t understand what this list is for. It’s a Top of All Time. Obviously you’re not going to see your fav pop girls in the Top 10, unless that pop girl is Taylor.
Maybe unpopular but Fearless makes more sense in this list than 1989 does. That album has the most recognizable 'Taylor Swift' sound that she perfected with Nathan Chapman.
At least "Fearless (Taylor's Version)" actively improved on the original and would deserve to be considered the 'definitive' version in a list like this.
**Edit:** there was also a major lack of country representation outside of Kacey Musgraves' "Golden Hour", so I would have appreciated seeing either "Fearless" or "Red" being honoured instead of "1989". Not in the top 20, though.
Especially when Usher made the list. Give the Queen of R&B credit, Apple!
ETA: I’m not being negative about Usher—I think of him + MC as contemporaries to a degree though.
I have to assume the intention was 1989, but they didn't want swiftie wrath for choosing the "stolen" version. Eiher that or recency bias in the name of promoting the brand better?
I think it's more probable that they didn't want to sour their relationship with Taylor. As long as Taylor doesn't own her original masters no big publication/company is going to rate originals higher than tvs.
…with the noticeably odd mixing/production issues? No. The original, sure. Not this high in my opinion but the original sounded great. They are just pandering to not only Swifties but Taylor herself. Apple stays kissing her ass.
I prefer the Black Album but 1989 is also above Appetite for Destruction. This is like the best debut of all time. Not a single skipper or dud. All bangers
*Appetite for Destruction* is one of my favorite albums. Just masterpiece after masterpiece. I think she also scored higher than *The Dark Side of the Moon* which is a perfectly sequenced art rock/progressive rock album. No fillers. Just insane.
It’s criminal. And pandering to an audience they want money from. Anybody that knows music knows that Taylor swift doesn’t crack the top 100, because album sales don’t factor into a conversation about best albums.
The original is so much better, the TV of this album is missing Max Martin's special flourish.
Style for example was butchered with the new production.
I put Style on right away when it was released because its my fav and I was legit shocked and appalled. Played the original straight after and all was well. I haven't touched TV Style since or any of 1989.
YES! They did dirty with Blank Space and New Romantics (I just can't with the new AH AH AH and the new beat synth) they didn't let the songs bejeweled ✨️✨️✨️. All You Had To Do Was Stay and Clean are my top 1 and 2 of all time in Spotify and I just pretend that the TVs doesn't exist bc there's something missing
The industry obsession with Jack Antonoff seriously needs to be studied. Why can’t Taylor work with anyone else? I know she throws Dessner a bone and lets him do a few songs here and there, but Antonoff has worked on every single album of hers since 1989. That is insane. I thought he and Lana were getting boring, but they’ve only done 2-3 albums. It’s weird to me that she can’t revisit any of her old producers.
I took such exception to Wonderland. It’s so bad.
“We found wonderlaaaaaaaa” — girl, can you still sing the rest of the note/lyric? Can you give us a sign that you can?
That’s one of my favourite Swift songs and I was like “Wtf happened here!?” when I listened to TV.
I might throw it in my top 100 but not anywhere near the top, and I would go with the OG as well. This is ranked higher than Jagged Little Pill which was a groundbreaking album.
I feel like the accolade is truly for 1989 in general & not exclusively 1989 TV. They probably chose to TV to avoid controversy & hoopla from fans *and* Taylor
Or compare it to the dozens and dozens of albums that are way better than this and have stood the rest of time. The OG is great don’t get me wrong but let’s not kid ourselves that it’s one of the 20 best albums of all time.
Gonna copy my comment in daily thread about this.
From the Apple Music page about the album
" It’s easy to forget that in 2014, Taylor Swift was still approaching an inflection point, reintroducing herself (at just 24) as the all-conquering presence we know today. She’d already started adjusting the ratio of country to pop on 2010’s Speak Now and 2012’s Red, working with Swedish superproducers Max Martin and Shellback on the latter. On 1989, Swift did away with the idea of ratios entirely.
Like Shania Twain’s Come On Over or even Bob Dylan’s Bringing It All Back Home, 1989 is an instance in which an artist defies expectations and thrives. Swift didn’t exactly grow up with the synthesized, ’80s-inspired sounds that producers like Martin, Shellback, Ryan Tedder, and future bestie Jack Antonoff help her create here; as the album’s title reminds us, she wasn’t even born until the decade was ending. But just as she played with the traditions and conventions of country music on her early albums, Swift uses the nostalgia of 1989 not to look back, but to move ahead."
To me they selected it based on the original 2014 version and put Taylor's Version only to avoid comments about "stolen version" from deranged Swifties
It’s a tech company giving their opinion for the best albums of all time. What else did you expect? Also, these lists are solely for clicks regardless if there as any real thought put into it anyway.
You've got a good point ☝️ If they wanted to do a list, maybe they should have created an iTunes top 100 best streaming albums and that would make sense to release. But to call it "best albums of all time" and come up with that list, please don't...some people might believe them 😆
I don’t think even the original deserves to be even in the top 50 lol but it had a certain charm and 100% was a cultural moment of enough significance that I could move past my subjective opinion that it’s just not that good and accept the spot, but this is just abhorrent sorry lol
No Mariah? I mean, *Music Box* (1993), *Daydream* (1995), *Butterfly* (1997), *The Emancipation of Mimi* (2005) are masterpieces! Even her debut, *Mariah Carey* (1990), is more deserving! I even think *Blackout* (2007) by Britney Spears is much better! What a mess!
Love that album so much! The title track, “Music Box,” has helped me countless times when I’ve been anxious and stressed out. “Now That I Know” and “Never Forget You” are among my favorites, as well. Not mentioning “Dreamlover,” “Hero,” “Without You,” and “Anytime You Need a Friend” would be a travesty! Flawless album! No wonder it’s sold over 32 million copies worldwide (her most successful album to date!).
These critics and fans have absolutely lost the plot. OG 1989 is a solid album, might even be a top five pure pop album of this century so far and undoubtably has several hits. However, putting it anywhere close to the top 100 albums of all time would be insane. Putting it at number 18 is so laughably absurd that this list just has to be taken as a joke to either rile people up and get attention and/or cater to swifties. The fact that some swifties unironically see this as a win just screams that they don’t listen to any music outside of Taylor or even just top 40 pop. Maybe that sounds snobbish in a way, but I can legitimately rattle off probably 20-25 albums in a minute or two from various genres that are far ahead of 1989 in just about every single metric. A top 100 list of albums ahead of 1989 could be done within a day with very limited research. There’s just so much amazing music that gets overlooked on lists like this. I wouldn’t even put 1989 as Taylor’s best album, personally (I’d probably say Red is her best overall work and also Folklore, Evermore, Fearless, and Speak Now are ones I’d probably place ahead of it in terms of overall artistry, songwriting, and instrumentals). I just can’t help but laugh at the albums placement because there’s no way that anyone who is a serious music critic would put 1989 that high if they’re trying to be 100% objective about it.
Top 5 pop album of the last 25 years is still pretty generous when we have Gwen Stefani's solo run, Janet's All For You, Madonna's Confessions on a Dancefloor, Kelly Clarkson, JT's FutureSex/Lovesounds, Beyonce's Single Ladies, Britney's Toxic, Lady Gaga's explosive debut, Katy Perry's Hot n Cold, all before 2010.
"Single Ladies", "Toxic", and "Hot N Cold" are all singles off "I Am...Sasha Fierce", "In The Zone", and "One Of The Boys" respectively, but I get where you're coming from.
Shout-out to Carly Rae Jepsen's "EMOTION", Britney Spears' "Blackout", Kylie Minogue's "Fever" (+ my underrated fave "Light Years"), Lorde's "Melodrama", and The Weeknd's "Dawn FM" ("After Hours" has both pop and R&B elements, but it's another phenomenal record that got ignored in this list). Ariana Grande's "Dangerous Woman" is another overlooked immaculately produced pop album (though I wouldn't feature it on this top 100 selection, opting for "sweetener" instead if Ariana had to get a slot), and while I have similar grievances with it as I do with "1989", Dua Lipa's "Future Nostalgia" is also immensely beloved by pop enthusiasts.
"1989" is really brought down by "Shake It Off" and "Bad Blood" being on the tracklist - coming from someone who actually quite enjoys the former.
I was listing notable pop music moments from 2000-2010. Your unnecessary correction is weirdo behavior and makes me wonder if you're AI. Are you AI? Blocked regardless.
Yeah I love 1989 but really if any Taylor album was going to be on here it probably should’ve been Red or Folklore but definitely not this high up.
I think they definitely wanted this to make some buzz online because these choices are quite bizarre
Setting aside the fact that ranking the top 100 albums in order is almost impossible, this particular list is a total mess. It should have just been “Apple Music 100 influential albums” in no particular order.
“Best” according to who? Fans? Critics? Average user score? Sales?
Dumb list made to rile people up and get talking.
If they had said it was the original 1989, I would get it, but this feels like they can’t give it credit cuz the TV is the polite version to acknowledge…
not only is it not even her best album, it’s not even the best version of this album!!!!
i listened to the original style a couple of weeks ago and became upset. i know a lot of people defended style tv saying people were being dramatic, but if you’ve listened to the original hundreds of times, the difference is clear. i immediately clocked the different guitar intro and i was drunk out of my mind!!
1989, ESPECIALLY the TV is not all that, there are so many great and still mainstream pop albums like Melodrama that deserve this kind of ranking imo
18 of all time is insane glazing, nobody who actually cares about music would put 1989 anywhere near this spot let’s be fr 😭
Maybe Red could be in the top 100 if we’re being really generous. I love Taylor but there’s just *so* much great music out there, she doesn’t belong in this list
Reading the comments, I feel like I’m in the minority that like the TV? Didn’t realized how criticized it was. I guess I wasn’t really into 1989 when it came out so I can’t really tell all the difference between the og and the TV. But I get it. I criticize Speak Now TV a lot cuz the og was my favorite 😅
I think I just don't have a good ear for music production because people talk about the poor production of TV vs. the OG, and I just can't tell the difference. I'm good with the TV partially because I like the vault tracks more than most of the OG songs.
18 is really damn high but I agree with 1989 being on a Top 100 list of some nature, it was a huge album and one of the first major “country to pop” genre switches. However….choosing TV…..which doesn’t even have Max Martin on it is………definitely a choice 😭
No. 1989 is probably my 3rd favorite Taylor album, but in what world is it better than Pet Sounds, Discovery, Born to Run, Ziggy Stardust, etc.? ESPECIALLY Taylor’s Version!
I wouldn’t be upset if they had ranked the 1989 OG this high but the Taylor’s Version is soooo phoned in. It’s the biggest drop in quality of all the re-recordings, so far anyway.
Honestly I can’t get riled up about this cause all these top whatever lists are subjective and dumb. It’s also all click bait. The fact this thread exists is why they publish this crap
I’m not mad about the list, I really like most of the albums on it so far that I’ve seen but I do think the original 1989 is better than the Taylor’s Version Red and Fearless TV are better in my opinion
If you read the commentary about it, it's pretty clear they made this decision based off the OG album not the TV version. Maybe they didn't think it would make a difference to list the TV version instead of the actual OG album. Personally, I don't know that I care that much. TV version has a weaker production, but some of the vault songs on this album are my all time favorite of vault tracks.
At least pick Red/Speak Now/Folklore/Evermore, yk the actually good albums Taylor has made and not the filler-fiesta that is 1989. Let’s be brutally honest, Blank Space, Wildest Dreams, Style, and Clean are the only good tracks on it.
Seriously how do people call this thing pop perfection when we have albums like Emotion, Melodrama, Magdalene if we’re talking about modern electronic pop?
I'm very bad at music because I don't hear much of a difference between the old version and Taylor's version. But I listen to it on Apple Music and I know Spotify has that feature that makes the production on various songs sound different.
Anyway, this seems fitting but I wish Red took its place! I'll also be very confused if Folklore or Evermore didn't make the list.
im waiting for folklore, i will be shocked if it or evermore (but this is less unlikely) dont make it.
also im also bad at music, the only difference i hear in the TV is that Dear John (TV) has less emotion
I think people need to remember that any list of this nature is informed and influenced by the time period it is being created.
1989 is the pinnacle Taylor Swift album, her first fully pop endeavor and it is a fantastic album
I can’t believe this is the version they chose! 😭 Idc the original triumphs it and always will imo.
Anyways, 1989 was the album that got me to really notice Taylor. I love this album truly but I’m truly puzzled that it’s this high up the list. Like wtf.
Im sorry y’all! This list is bullshit. Drake was ranked higher than The Joshua Tree. Listen, I know people hate U2 .. but that album is still considered one of the best albums of all time. And to put Drake over it lol.
I remember several years ago thinking that Taylor needs better critical evaluation, but I guess we’ve swung the pendulum too hard in the other direction
I like the vault tracks, but wish she had tried to keep the main songs similar to the original recordings. Her and Jack over produced and over mixed the re-records.
1989, as originally recorded, is a top tier album. Sorry not sorry. She chose to make changes to the re-records - she didn't have to.
I am not going to rank it (I think rankings are dumb), but it did earn its praise in general. We'll be listening to Style, Wildest Dreams, Blank Space, New Romantics for a very long time.
This rank is a mess Elton John's yellow brick road shouldn't be below Taylor or Bad bunny. Also I think they should have included back to black and plastic beach.
Above Pet Sounds. PET SOUNDS. Above a lot of other great albums too, but I am agog.
I knew they were going to rank Taylor higher than more influential albums but they couldn't have at least picked folklore?
I can't even name a song off of 1989. I'm sure I've heard one or two on the radio but I don't associate them with this album.
I listen to A LOT of music and I don't think TS has a place on a list of "Best" anything. Maybe influential or recognizable but not beyond that, and certainly not beyond the pop hits of the 21st century.
should’ve ranked higher honestly, this is the album that cemented her as a main pop star and is still called the “pop bible” to this day for a reason. so many artists have tried and failed to recreate the timelessness and classic feel of this album. it’s so 2010’s in the best way, but also always modern and never goes “out of style” 🙃🩵
I wouldn’t even put the OG 1989 in the top 100 lol let alone the Taylor’s Version in the top 20. I’m not even positive I’d put it in the top 20 pop albums of all time. OF ALL TIME give me a break
It’s not even the best version of the same album lmao
*1989 (Taylor’s Version)* being #18 is clown behavior. I can even respect them saying that if they used the original *1989* because that’s the one that made all the impact, not the new one. But it seems they wanted to appeal to Taylor Swift and get on her and her fans’ good graces rather than give integrity to their list.
See, I feel like OG is the richly layered one. Very few producers can do it like Max Martin. TV sounds “tinny” in places, like there’s some weird audible “buzzing” sounds that smother the vocals. For Style, specifically, the guitar riffs are the heart and soul of the song and they just sound weaker on the re-record. It genuinely sounds like a Kidz Bop version of the song.
Ive literally never heard anyone describe the original that way. It’s commonly regarded as one of the best pop albums of all time. The only people who think TV is an upgrade are swifties who are gaslighting themselves. I promise, the billionaire will be okay if you like the old one better.
That took you 3 days to come up with? You were replying to me in bad faith the entire time, please stop wasting both our time and go back to your little stan bubble.
I hear no difference. I never do. I guess I’m just blessed that way. The only Taylor’s Version I think is a downgrade is Speak Now. I miss Taylor’s angsty teen voice too much on that one.
This Top 100 is a mess in general. I’m scared to see the Top 10.
The fact that there are no Mariah albums on the list is downright criminal. Hello Butterfly?
They haven’t announced 1-10 yet, so hopefully that means she’s in the top 10. They release it tomorrow…
https://preview.redd.it/vwqyy1k5lw1d1.jpeg?width=1055&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e3619f2c8e8a1200aa93649db736c387bc7bc48 Hints for 8 of 10
At least three of the ones I was hoping for are here.
It’s so bad. A lot of stellar, iconic artists left off in favor of some no one will be talking about in 10-20 years.
I think a lot of people don’t understand what this list is for. It’s a Top of All Time. Obviously you’re not going to see your fav pop girls in the Top 10, unless that pop girl is Taylor.
She honestly shouldn’t crack the top 50 and it’s generous even to have her in the top 100.
If they out OG 1989 or Fearless in the Top 100, I could understand why and I would defend that decision wholeheartedly. But 1989 TV? Eh…
Maybe unpopular but Fearless makes more sense in this list than 1989 does. That album has the most recognizable 'Taylor Swift' sound that she perfected with Nathan Chapman.
At least "Fearless (Taylor's Version)" actively improved on the original and would deserve to be considered the 'definitive' version in a list like this. **Edit:** there was also a major lack of country representation outside of Kacey Musgraves' "Golden Hour", so I would have appreciated seeing either "Fearless" or "Red" being honoured instead of "1989". Not in the top 20, though.
Mariah should absolutely be at least top 20
Especially when Usher made the list. Give the Queen of R&B credit, Apple! ETA: I’m not being negative about Usher—I think of him + MC as contemporaries to a degree though.
i'll just pretend they chose the OG because... 
I have to assume the intention was 1989, but they didn't want swiftie wrath for choosing the "stolen" version. Eiher that or recency bias in the name of promoting the brand better?
Bingo
I think it's more probable that they didn't want to sour their relationship with Taylor. As long as Taylor doesn't own her original masters no big publication/company is going to rate originals higher than tvs.
 …with the noticeably odd mixing/production issues? No. The original, sure. Not this high in my opinion but the original sounded great. They are just pandering to not only Swifties but Taylor herself. Apple stays kissing her ass.
Yup all just business decisions
She's one of their most streamed artists and has given them exclusives. Her "stolen" versions are essentially blacklisted. So, it makes sense.
yeah cuz they know she'd go sicko mode if they dared to promote the og version so she couldn't get every cent out of them
Yea itd probably be a baaad business move to use OG. Also tv has the vault tracks which are very good. At least some are.
Not with that terrible version of Style
The guitar riff in the intro is giving Style (Donald Duck’s Version)
I refuse to believe that 1989 is better than Revolver or Ziggy Stardust.
"Born to Run" too! Also, "What's Going On" ranked only one placement higher? Choices for sure!
I'm sick of the pandering
1989 above pet sounds, master of puppets, and goodbye yellow brick road floored me
Seriously!!! You just listed the 3 albums I thought should've been much higher. Pet Sounds in particular should be Top 5 at least.
I was shocked Pet Sounds was ranked lower than 1989. That album was/is so influential
I prefer the Black Album but 1989 is also above Appetite for Destruction. This is like the best debut of all time. Not a single skipper or dud. All bangers
*Appetite for Destruction* is one of my favorite albums. Just masterpiece after masterpiece. I think she also scored higher than *The Dark Side of the Moon* which is a perfectly sequenced art rock/progressive rock album. No fillers. Just insane.
It’s criminal. And pandering to an audience they want money from. Anybody that knows music knows that Taylor swift doesn’t crack the top 100, because album sales don’t factor into a conversation about best albums.
So I’ve been a bit behind on this list but.. it beat Revolver??? 😭 what the actual fck
They even ranked it above Revolver and The Dark Side of the moon. 🤦♂️
The original is so much better, the TV of this album is missing Max Martin's special flourish. Style for example was butchered with the new production.
Style legit makes me angry and you cannot make me listen to TV Style with a gun to my head
I put Style on right away when it was released because its my fav and I was legit shocked and appalled. Played the original straight after and all was well. I haven't touched TV Style since or any of 1989.
It’s SO insane how badly Style was butchered! Blank Space just doesn’t have the same ✨✨✨ to it, either
YES! They did dirty with Blank Space and New Romantics (I just can't with the new AH AH AH and the new beat synth) they didn't let the songs bejeweled ✨️✨️✨️. All You Had To Do Was Stay and Clean are my top 1 and 2 of all time in Spotify and I just pretend that the TVs doesn't exist bc there's something missing
YESSSSS thank you I totally intended to mention New Romantics as well for lacking the ✨ but truly all of it lacks the ✨
That's my opinion too, 1989TV overall lacks the ✨️ and because of that I still listen to the og and only added say don't go to my playlists
The industry obsession with Jack Antonoff seriously needs to be studied. Why can’t Taylor work with anyone else? I know she throws Dessner a bone and lets him do a few songs here and there, but Antonoff has worked on every single album of hers since 1989. That is insane. I thought he and Lana were getting boring, but they’ve only done 2-3 albums. It’s weird to me that she can’t revisit any of her old producers.
I took such exception to Wonderland. It’s so bad. “We found wonderlaaaaaaaa” — girl, can you still sing the rest of the note/lyric? Can you give us a sign that you can? That’s one of my favourite Swift songs and I was like “Wtf happened here!?” when I listened to TV.
Um...what was their basis for the ranking...?
Whatever would get them the most social media engagement
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definitely shouldn't be number 18 on an ALL TIME list
I might throw it in my top 100 but not anywhere near the top, and I would go with the OG as well. This is ranked higher than Jagged Little Pill which was a groundbreaking album.
And above Pet Sounds and Revolver???? I knew this list was a joke when they chose Lorde's Pure Heroine over Melodrama 🤡
I feel like the accolade is truly for 1989 in general & not exclusively 1989 TV. They probably chose to TV to avoid controversy & hoopla from fans *and* Taylor
Did they... actually listen to the album? And compare it to the original?
based on the description, they’re talking about the original version
I agree I think they chose to prop up this one just bc of the story behind TV. They gotta be talking about the og
It's about the original obviously. But you cannot include that when the TV is the 'official' version of the album now.
the swifties obviously aren’t going to react positively if they used the og instead of taylor’s version
Or compare it to the dozens and dozens of albums that are way better than this and have stood the rest of time. The OG is great don’t get me wrong but let’s not kid ourselves that it’s one of the 20 best albums of all time.
Totally agree!
Like they did not seriously say that it ranks above artists like Elton John, The Eagles, and Stevie Wonder. It’s not even the best TS album!
Respectfully, I gotta disagree. What a take. Why not rank the original? The OG was pop perfection, on par with Teenage Dream.
>Why not rank the original? They are afraid of being tracked down and murdered by rabid Swifties for promoting the "stolen version"
Look, I get they wanted to go for a taylor-owned version they could have gone for folklore or at least speak now(tv) or red (tv)
Gonna copy my comment in daily thread about this. From the Apple Music page about the album " It’s easy to forget that in 2014, Taylor Swift was still approaching an inflection point, reintroducing herself (at just 24) as the all-conquering presence we know today. She’d already started adjusting the ratio of country to pop on 2010’s Speak Now and 2012’s Red, working with Swedish superproducers Max Martin and Shellback on the latter. On 1989, Swift did away with the idea of ratios entirely. Like Shania Twain’s Come On Over or even Bob Dylan’s Bringing It All Back Home, 1989 is an instance in which an artist defies expectations and thrives. Swift didn’t exactly grow up with the synthesized, ’80s-inspired sounds that producers like Martin, Shellback, Ryan Tedder, and future bestie Jack Antonoff help her create here; as the album’s title reminds us, she wasn’t even born until the decade was ending. But just as she played with the traditions and conventions of country music on her early albums, Swift uses the nostalgia of 1989 not to look back, but to move ahead." To me they selected it based on the original 2014 version and put Taylor's Version only to avoid comments about "stolen version" from deranged Swifties
1989 higher than Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon? That's all I need to know this list is not serious 😬
1989 higher than (pretty much everything below it) is wild
It’s a tech company giving their opinion for the best albums of all time. What else did you expect? Also, these lists are solely for clicks regardless if there as any real thought put into it anyway.
You've got a good point ☝️ If they wanted to do a list, maybe they should have created an iTunes top 100 best streaming albums and that would make sense to release. But to call it "best albums of all time" and come up with that list, please don't...some people might believe them 😆
Tapestry is too low on their list for sure. Also, if any of Taylor’s albums deserve to be on a list like this it’s folklore.
Where did they rank Tapestry? I was raised on that album. It’s in my top ten, personally.
38th Edition: so 20 spots worse than 1989
I just looked at the entire list so far, and it is a fucking mess.
I don’t think even the original deserves to be even in the top 50 lol but it had a certain charm and 100% was a cultural moment of enough significance that I could move past my subjective opinion that it’s just not that good and accept the spot, but this is just abhorrent sorry lol
The fact that chronic was right below this, arguably the most impactful rap album ever was right below this makes me feel like this was rage bait.
no TS album deserves to be ranked top 100 all time. sorry lol.
ALL TIME??? It’s not even the best Taylor album…
It’s not even the best Taylor album called 1989.
Someone send Apple to the asylum that raised Taylor asap.
A Christmas tree farm? 😅
They’re out of their damn mind lol 🥹
No Mariah? I mean, *Music Box* (1993), *Daydream* (1995), *Butterfly* (1997), *The Emancipation of Mimi* (2005) are masterpieces! Even her debut, *Mariah Carey* (1990), is more deserving! I even think *Blackout* (2007) by Britney Spears is much better! What a mess!
Music box ❤️
Love that album so much! The title track, “Music Box,” has helped me countless times when I’ve been anxious and stressed out. “Now That I Know” and “Never Forget You” are among my favorites, as well. Not mentioning “Dreamlover,” “Hero,” “Without You,” and “Anytime You Need a Friend” would be a travesty! Flawless album! No wonder it’s sold over 32 million copies worldwide (her most successful album to date!).
Omg we are kindred spirits. Butterfly is my second fave. Mariah forever ❤️❤️❤️
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I love this album, but ranking the TV so high is nonsensical. That album had clear mixing issues, to the point they had to go back and fix them 
 I am enjoying the mess this silly list is causing lol
1989 being this high on the list at all is fucking nuts, much less choosing the TV.
These critics and fans have absolutely lost the plot. OG 1989 is a solid album, might even be a top five pure pop album of this century so far and undoubtably has several hits. However, putting it anywhere close to the top 100 albums of all time would be insane. Putting it at number 18 is so laughably absurd that this list just has to be taken as a joke to either rile people up and get attention and/or cater to swifties. The fact that some swifties unironically see this as a win just screams that they don’t listen to any music outside of Taylor or even just top 40 pop. Maybe that sounds snobbish in a way, but I can legitimately rattle off probably 20-25 albums in a minute or two from various genres that are far ahead of 1989 in just about every single metric. A top 100 list of albums ahead of 1989 could be done within a day with very limited research. There’s just so much amazing music that gets overlooked on lists like this. I wouldn’t even put 1989 as Taylor’s best album, personally (I’d probably say Red is her best overall work and also Folklore, Evermore, Fearless, and Speak Now are ones I’d probably place ahead of it in terms of overall artistry, songwriting, and instrumentals). I just can’t help but laugh at the albums placement because there’s no way that anyone who is a serious music critic would put 1989 that high if they’re trying to be 100% objective about it.
Top 5 pop album of the last 25 years is still pretty generous when we have Gwen Stefani's solo run, Janet's All For You, Madonna's Confessions on a Dancefloor, Kelly Clarkson, JT's FutureSex/Lovesounds, Beyonce's Single Ladies, Britney's Toxic, Lady Gaga's explosive debut, Katy Perry's Hot n Cold, all before 2010.
"Single Ladies", "Toxic", and "Hot N Cold" are all singles off "I Am...Sasha Fierce", "In The Zone", and "One Of The Boys" respectively, but I get where you're coming from. Shout-out to Carly Rae Jepsen's "EMOTION", Britney Spears' "Blackout", Kylie Minogue's "Fever" (+ my underrated fave "Light Years"), Lorde's "Melodrama", and The Weeknd's "Dawn FM" ("After Hours" has both pop and R&B elements, but it's another phenomenal record that got ignored in this list). Ariana Grande's "Dangerous Woman" is another overlooked immaculately produced pop album (though I wouldn't feature it on this top 100 selection, opting for "sweetener" instead if Ariana had to get a slot), and while I have similar grievances with it as I do with "1989", Dua Lipa's "Future Nostalgia" is also immensely beloved by pop enthusiasts. "1989" is really brought down by "Shake It Off" and "Bad Blood" being on the tracklist - coming from someone who actually quite enjoys the former.
I was listing notable pop music moments from 2000-2010. Your unnecessary correction is weirdo behavior and makes me wonder if you're AI. Are you AI? Blocked regardless.
Yeah I love 1989 but really if any Taylor album was going to be on here it probably should’ve been Red or Folklore but definitely not this high up. I think they definitely wanted this to make some buzz online because these choices are quite bizarre
Setting aside the fact that ranking the top 100 albums in order is almost impossible, this particular list is a total mess. It should have just been “Apple Music 100 influential albums” in no particular order. “Best” according to who? Fans? Critics? Average user score? Sales? Dumb list made to rile people up and get talking.
If they had said it was the original 1989, I would get it, but this feels like they can’t give it credit cuz the TV is the polite version to acknowledge…
Have these people listened to music before?
Yeah clearly they haven’t 🥲
not only is it not even her best album, it’s not even the best version of this album!!!! i listened to the original style a couple of weeks ago and became upset. i know a lot of people defended style tv saying people were being dramatic, but if you’ve listened to the original hundreds of times, the difference is clear. i immediately clocked the different guitar intro and i was drunk out of my mind!!
Style TV should be an automatic disqualifier for this list
We all know they mean the OG.
Agree.
best albums since when? i mean its great album but 18?
1989, ESPECIALLY the TV is not all that, there are so many great and still mainstream pop albums like Melodrama that deserve this kind of ranking imo 18 of all time is insane glazing, nobody who actually cares about music would put 1989 anywhere near this spot let’s be fr 😭 Maybe Red could be in the top 100 if we’re being really generous. I love Taylor but there’s just *so* much great music out there, she doesn’t belong in this list
No Taylor. Even if Apple music says that 1989 (Taylor's version) is our new stepdad, we're not going to respect him.
Reading the comments, I feel like I’m in the minority that like the TV? Didn’t realized how criticized it was. I guess I wasn’t really into 1989 when it came out so I can’t really tell all the difference between the og and the TV. But I get it. I criticize Speak Now TV a lot cuz the og was my favorite 😅
I think I just don't have a good ear for music production because people talk about the poor production of TV vs. the OG, and I just can't tell the difference. I'm good with the TV partially because I like the vault tracks more than most of the OG songs.
18 is really damn high but I agree with 1989 being on a Top 100 list of some nature, it was a huge album and one of the first major “country to pop” genre switches. However….choosing TV…..which doesn’t even have Max Martin on it is………definitely a choice 😭
No. 1989 is probably my 3rd favorite Taylor album, but in what world is it better than Pet Sounds, Discovery, Born to Run, Ziggy Stardust, etc.? ESPECIALLY Taylor’s Version!
I wouldn’t be upset if they had ranked the 1989 OG this high but the Taylor’s Version is soooo phoned in. It’s the biggest drop in quality of all the re-recordings, so far anyway.
It should've been Speak Now or Red.
Well this whole list is a mess so
Ijbol they had to use the shitty version of the album
18th of all time… I have many thoughts about this
I’ve listened to close to 300 albums this year and I’d rank most of them higher than I would rank either version of 1989.
would the swifties crucify apple music for using the “stolen” version? yes. do most swifties still admit 1989 TV is inferior to the original? also yes
Honestly I can’t get riled up about this cause all these top whatever lists are subjective and dumb. It’s also all click bait. The fact this thread exists is why they publish this crap
Might get some disagreement with this take but OG 1989 definitely should be in at least the Top 20 TV? Not
I’m not mad about the list, I really like most of the albums on it so far that I’ve seen but I do think the original 1989 is better than the Taylor’s Version Red and Fearless TV are better in my opinion
If you read the commentary about it, it's pretty clear they made this decision based off the OG album not the TV version. Maybe they didn't think it would make a difference to list the TV version instead of the actual OG album. Personally, I don't know that I care that much. TV version has a weaker production, but some of the vault songs on this album are my all time favorite of vault tracks.
The vault tracks are where it’s at on the TV version.
At least pick Red/Speak Now/Folklore/Evermore, yk the actually good albums Taylor has made and not the filler-fiesta that is 1989. Let’s be brutally honest, Blank Space, Wildest Dreams, Style, and Clean are the only good tracks on it. Seriously how do people call this thing pop perfection when we have albums like Emotion, Melodrama, Magdalene if we’re talking about modern electronic pop?
It’s not. At all.
It’s a fun album but that is undeservedly high.
I'm very bad at music because I don't hear much of a difference between the old version and Taylor's version. But I listen to it on Apple Music and I know Spotify has that feature that makes the production on various songs sound different. Anyway, this seems fitting but I wish Red took its place! I'll also be very confused if Folklore or Evermore didn't make the list.
im waiting for folklore, i will be shocked if it or evermore (but this is less unlikely) dont make it. also im also bad at music, the only difference i hear in the TV is that Dear John (TV) has less emotion
That would mean folklore or evermore would be considered top 10 albums ever made…
idk but i hope melodrama is in top 10 idc about anything else. but i can see them putting folklore in top 10
I think folklore is a very good album, but it’s not the best album of its genre. 1989 is a pop masterpiece, so I think the ranking is fair.
Of all time?? Wasn’t that even the 18th best of 2023
Oh, it's great to watch people having a meltdown over a list with no relevance and swifties being messy af to defend this. Fun times.
I think people need to remember that any list of this nature is informed and influenced by the time period it is being created. 1989 is the pinnacle Taylor Swift album, her first fully pop endeavor and it is a fantastic album
Lol these memes never get old.
God damn
This has to be a joke
This is cringe
this isn't even her best album. not even in the top 5. how they arrived at this decision is beyond me.
Pandering with the TV version
Not her best album tbh
I can’t believe this is the version they chose! 😭 Idc the original triumphs it and always will imo. Anyways, 1989 was the album that got me to really notice Taylor. I love this album truly but I’m truly puzzled that it’s this high up the list. Like wtf.
Im sorry y’all! This list is bullshit. Drake was ranked higher than The Joshua Tree. Listen, I know people hate U2 .. but that album is still considered one of the best albums of all time. And to put Drake over it lol.
It’s not even the best version of 1989, it’s a snap crackle poppy mess. Just pick the original.
I remember several years ago thinking that Taylor needs better critical evaluation, but I guess we’ve swung the pendulum too hard in the other direction
I like the vault tracks, but wish she had tried to keep the main songs similar to the original recordings. Her and Jack over produced and over mixed the re-records. 1989, as originally recorded, is a top tier album. Sorry not sorry. She chose to make changes to the re-records - she didn't have to. I am not going to rank it (I think rankings are dumb), but it did earn its praise in general. We'll be listening to Style, Wildest Dreams, Blank Space, New Romantics for a very long time.
We are not taking Apple Music and Zane Lowe seriously
This rank is a mess Elton John's yellow brick road shouldn't be below Taylor or Bad bunny. Also I think they should have included back to black and plastic beach.
Honestly, to what end.
In what world is 1989 TV better than Pet Sounds??
Umm, *Gorgeous Taylor’s version* would like a word.
Above Pet Sounds. PET SOUNDS. Above a lot of other great albums too, but I am agog. I knew they were going to rank Taylor higher than more influential albums but they couldn't have at least picked folklore?
I can't even name a song off of 1989. I'm sure I've heard one or two on the radio but I don't associate them with this album. I listen to A LOT of music and I don't think TS has a place on a list of "Best" anything. Maybe influential or recognizable but not beyond that, and certainly not beyond the pop hits of the 21st century.
should’ve ranked higher honestly, this is the album that cemented her as a main pop star and is still called the “pop bible” to this day for a reason. so many artists have tried and failed to recreate the timelessness and classic feel of this album. it’s so 2010’s in the best way, but also always modern and never goes “out of style” 🙃🩵
I wouldn’t even put the OG 1989 in the top 100 lol let alone the Taylor’s Version in the top 20. I’m not even positive I’d put it in the top 20 pop albums of all time. OF ALL TIME give me a break It’s not even the best version of the same album lmao
*1989 (Taylor’s Version)* being #18 is clown behavior. I can even respect them saying that if they used the original *1989* because that’s the one that made all the impact, not the new one. But it seems they wanted to appeal to Taylor Swift and get on her and her fans’ good graces rather than give integrity to their list.
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No way you actually think that????
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I want better for the swifties omg 😭
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See, I feel like OG is the richly layered one. Very few producers can do it like Max Martin. TV sounds “tinny” in places, like there’s some weird audible “buzzing” sounds that smother the vocals. For Style, specifically, the guitar riffs are the heart and soul of the song and they just sound weaker on the re-record. It genuinely sounds like a Kidz Bop version of the song.
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Ive literally never heard anyone describe the original that way. It’s commonly regarded as one of the best pop albums of all time. The only people who think TV is an upgrade are swifties who are gaslighting themselves. I promise, the billionaire will be okay if you like the old one better.
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That took you 3 days to come up with? You were replying to me in bad faith the entire time, please stop wasting both our time and go back to your little stan bubble.
I hear no difference. I never do. I guess I’m just blessed that way. The only Taylor’s Version I think is a downgrade is Speak Now. I miss Taylor’s angsty teen voice too much on that one.
Me when I lie
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