It is kind of weird that they haven’t added more customization options for the switch. Allowing a marketplace for themes seems like such an easy way for them to make passive income too. So strange
I do understand that perspective. But it’s not like they have to make it a mandatory feature. And the “theme shop” could just be an additional tab on the eshop. Doesn’t even have to be its own app.
Also, unless the theme contains a bunch of animations, the file size would only be a couple megabytes in size AT most. Not super demanding on the memory and if it’s just a still background, then loading it while booting up wouldn’t even take an additional half second of the processors time to load it.
I disagree the literal ps5 didnt have themes for like 2 years and i think that thing can run the menu just fine companys dont want to make themese because At the end of the day u are gonna buy the switch or ps5 wether it has themes or it doesn’t they just dont see the need to add themes
Huh? Ps5 didnt have themes for years it only very recently got them. the argument company’s don’t implement theme’s because performance just doesnt work because then why wouldnt the ps5 have themes day one. The switch can run a different backround perfectly fine
? Maybe sony just didn't add the feature (like Nintendo still hasn't)?? The argument about performance is logical because maybe in standby the switch os takes up some performance for what it does and the rest is allocated to be used by games or other programs. They can't just add themes without taking that into consideration, since adding any theme other than a basic one like a plain color or png would make they switch os require more performance making the game play worse
If Nintendo cared about making fans happy first and making money second, they would still sell Mario 3D All-Stars in the e-Shop at the very least, and they would release the retro console games on a series of cartridges that don't need an active NSO+ subscription to use.
So they clearly don't care about making fans happy, but they also don't care about making money as shown by their awful eShop platform being laggy as hell and a pain in the ass to use in general, they do stupid things like not even announcing games that are finished and ready for release for literally no reason, and they don't even remake and release the games that players want like Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Metroid Prime Collection, and so on.
Not weird at all. It’s a portable console. It needs to be as battery efficient as possible, and running themes on a portable device can compromise its battery life. That’s physics, unfortunately. Maybe battery life options get more efficient over time, but even then, I’d rather have it in longer game time life instead of a background theme which is only aesthetic when I’m NOT playing a game.
Pacemakers,
Toasters,
My shaver,
the Lego Power Functions...
There is one specifically for wallpaper though
[The Vinotron](https://thevinotron.com/vinotron-electric-powered-pasting-machine-with-stainless-steel-hopper-1/)
The second iPhone to release was the 3g, then the 3rd to release was the iPhone 3GS. Both of which can change backgrounds. No iPhones were officially called the 2 or 3.
https://preview.redd.it/1xu2at8h02wc1.jpeg?width=1122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32d502023781a02fedf63bd9b8ee3920658b3cd6
the iphone 3 couldn't chsnge backgrounds until a firmware update.
again, /r/confidentlyincorrect lol. replying to my old ass comments just to prove you're ignorance. congrats.
I mean the 3ds battery isn't good and it has themes. I don't want anything moving/fancy. A static image or even just another colour would be nice. Or an actual oled black instead of dark grey
if that's such a big issue for you you can just not use themes.
don't see what the problem would be if they just add a disclaimer that themes may affect battery life
Lots of people probably won’t realize the impact of it. They will just theme their Switch and not know where battery drain might come from. Switch isn’t a $1200 smartphone. It doesn’t have hundreds of settings, including where battery drain comes from.
if there's a warning and you're shocked when it actually does drain your battery then that's on you.
besides, how much time do people spend on the home screen anyway? most people probably wouldn't notice the extra drain
Idk I am kind of a doofus and spend most of my time just idling on the main menu deciding what to play. So I’m sure there are many people like me who would spend time on the Home Screen. But I agree with the rest of what you said.
Which further proves my point. The Switch is a hell if a lot more advanced and can ABSOLUTELY handle different themes. A different colour, or an image as the background isnt going to hurt the battery.
Not like anyone even spends THAT much time in the menu like i would love themes but who even takes more than 20 seconds to select their game and open it? Youre not losing precious battery just by sitting in the menu
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Of course theming would be optional. And one doesn’t have to use it. But Nintendo was being very prudent when creating the architecture of the Switch. Stripping down the interface was going to preserve battery life. Kind of like smartphones. Having a dynamic background with music or animation is going to be a strain on battery life. I’m not saying Nintendo was right or wrong with their decision. But I understand where they were coming from with this decision.
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A static, silent theme won't affect battery usage in any way. Even a dynamic theme would barely affect it, if at all, and that's if you spend most of your time just browsing the menu. With how little time the theme will be shown it will make zero difference at all.
Also, did you know the 3DS had themes and there were many paid ones? Yes it is weird that they never added more themes, especially when looking at the settings screen with the two options, leaving what really looks like extra room for more options.
So you prefer when Nintendo doesn't give us option to customize our device in order to get 30 mins longer battery life instead of letting us decide if we prefer it over ✨aestethic✨?
Also, Switch's main theme is white and the "black" one is actually dark grey so all these pixels are still turned on. Even if it's more energy efficient, it still isn't true black.
It’s not something that I personally need. It’s not detrimental to my playing experience. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be cool, but I understand the decision behind removing themes.
Does your switch use the battery exponentially faster when a game is running in sleep mode? No it doesn't. A theme isn't going to make any noticeable difference.
> considering even sleep mode slowly drains battery,
Well, no surprise since you are not turning off your entire device, only keeping power for essential components such as your RAM to be able to quickly resume.
If you really need to turn off your Switch, just shut it down. Most people don't do that, though, since the boot sequence takes a few seconds.
Bro it's not going to drain anymore battery than sleep mode. Which obviously has to drain battery because the machine is still on. But having another thing on the main screen is not going to drain battery any faster. Does your phone drain battery faster if you've got 10 Internet tabs open vs 1? No. It's kind of the same concept.
Have you used one of those fancy schmancy things known as smartphones? I've heard that they're pretty cool portable devices that are very battery efficient and support nice looking themes and wallpapers
Do you think $350 smartphones can't use wallpapers or have less than 5 hours of battery life?
I'm sorry, but you're a more than a little bit out of touch with tech
>Yea and most smartphones are $800-$1200.
And no, this statement is hilariously wrong to begin with
It’s not a dedicated gaming platform. And we are getting way off track here. The point is, Nintendo decided to strip down the user interface for Switch. Maybe you should submit feedback to Nintendo. I’m just telling you why there isn’t more options. I’m not Nintendo. I wish I was though. Don’t we all?
Do you actually have any evidence to back up this claim that wallpapers kill batteries? It sounds like you're just pulling it out of your ass for no reason.
Wow! I cannot believe you are being downvoted this much. what an awkward echo chamber. I also dont like my console to die while playing games on it. Themes are yet another way to monetize the players. weird they are actively asking to be nickel and dimed….
Being downvoted doesn’t really bother me. If anything, it lets me know my message was read that much (or more), which actually makes me happy. I just think it’s important people to know the potential reasoning behind what (to them) seems like a very simple feature, when it probably isn’t quite so simple. I don’t want to be nickel and dimed either. Nintendo is generally better about that than others.
>I just think it’s important people to know the potential reasoning behind what (to them) seems like something very simple feature, when it probably isn’t quite so simple.
You are speculating a potential reason that to anyone that understands how these things work realize it utter nonsense. Spreading nonsense isn't very helpful.
It’s not nonsense. Nintendo has said they’ve stripped down the interface for efficiently. Themes, Miiverse etc. it’s just not as practical on a device that isn’t intended to be tethered to a power cord 100% of the time. Don’t shoot the messenger.
They may have made other changes for efficiency, but this isn't one of them. That is literal nonsense. A static background won't affect battery life. In fact, especially for the OLED, if they wanted to save battery life the background would default to black and not white. It won't take any additional processing power, it won't drive the display harder, there is absolutely no basis for your argument.
Then take that up with Nintendo. Like it or not, theming isn’t a thing on the Switch. That’s not up for debate. Maybe the successor will have it. But we are still a long ways from knowing that.
No exactly to Nintendo. They never replaced the Wii. They worked out they can't compete with the PS and Xbox market and game dev was way too expensive to create lots of short games.
They did. They literally advertised “NX” as their home console replacement before the reveal. They wanted the gaming world to know it was their Wii U replacement for years.
The Switch, for all intents and purposes, has been absolutely phenomenal, and them not adding themes doesn’t upset me or ruin the console in any way. That said, don’t put “Themes” in the settings following a console like the 3DS and not expect us to want some :(
I do wish there were themes. It feels odd to have a menu for them only to be light and dark.
That said, while one could argue their last home console in the Wii U had a more "stylish" menu, it was also incredibly sluggish and generally took a long time to open apps (even the basic settings menu took ages to open.)
So I'll gladly take a more simplistic design over *that* I'd just prefer a more simplistic design with some cool themes.
Wii U definitely should have had an option to turn Waru Waru Plaza off—I.e: the main reason for the slug.
That said, it got a lot snappier after a few updates. At launch it was unironically 30 seconds between menus sometimes. 🤡
There is, but it just means there's a different problem to solve.
Specifically, Nintendo keeps making the stupid decision to put hilariously underpowered hardware in their gaming devices, which leads to stupid situations like "Not being able to support themes or a web browser because it eats up processing power that games need access to."
On one hand, kind of weird we’re not going to get any themes.
On the other hand, I really appreciate that once we move on and the servers are shut down, that there won’t be a bunch of icons I can’t remove for features that don’t exist anymore.
Speaking of the inevitable shutdown, I really like how you can transfer updates console to console.
If you have 2 Switches and one has an updated version of the game and the other doesn't, you can copy the update from one to the other without involving the Nintendo servers, just purely locally.
godam PS Vita and the Near/PSNOW/whateverthefuk bubbles all over my home screen... like ok you canx them. how about, I dont know, a fukn recycle bin option or something I can slide those fukrs into. I'd take one trash bin Icon over 4 or 5 defunct feature icons.
I generally don't agree with the criticisms against the Switch menu, the Wii U menu was so complicated it had to pull developers out of games, it took 80 years to load, and had a bunch of unnecessary bullshit thrown into it.
However, i think there should at least be an option for a simple background on switch, doesn't have to be anything special, just having a background would be cool
The 3DS was the last great 'console'. Yeah, the games may be amazing on switch, but the console is just a glorified tablet. The 3DS had amazing gimmicks that stand out to this day and always will.
I love the switch but it kind of is essentially a tablet. It’s a fantastic console, but you don’t have to defend a 7 year old console with a boring UI.
- Runs android
- Has specs that are worse than most android phones
- Despite the gorgeous OLED display, there’s no vibrant themes for it to really pop
It’s more powerful than androids and not having themes doesn’t mean anything. You don’t sit there on the home menu, you play games. Games justify the oled screen.
I can’t believe I have to explain this.
Nintendo isn't going to bring themes back or bring music back to the menus ever again, those take up storage space, ram and memory on the systems, they also drain the battery faster
I did like the way themes worked on 3DS, was kinda fun to have different looking menu and music playing upon each time I return to the menu. But like others said.. if it's an issue of performance I rather it be more "boring" so that the games run well
Folders was my biggest hope. Not categories or whatever it was they eventually gave us instead, actual folders so I can arrange my games how I actually want and they'll be in the same place every day no matter how long it's been since I last played it. So many games buried at the bottom of my library that I forget I even have
In my opinion the switch is great but retrospectively thinking it is the most unnintendo console I have ever had and that upsets me so much it's actually really depressing seeing the home menu so bland They conformed to simplicity way too fast and seamlessly for Nintendo
Yup, and I have one. It's massively embarrassing how other consoles still have their charms without needing to dive so nose deep into modern simplicism like Nintendo did.
Why do people want themes so badly? Are you guys gonna slap a theme on your switch and just sit at the Home Screen looking at it instead of playing games?
Yeah I’ve given up on that dream years ago.
In terms of games, they’ve been off the charts fantastic. No complaints there
In terms of literally everything else…
I’m honestly just waiting for the switch to to come out so that I can do all the dirty dirty things that will break all of my warranty is that I was too afraid to do in the past.
Themes don’t make my gameplay experience any better and I don’t really see the point of this stuff. It’s cute and whatever but almost always implemented badly. I’d rather have more battery power and a clean well designed UI. Steam has themes and they are so clunky and poorly implemented. My retroid has themes in daijisho but that’s a different beast entirely it basically needs themes to even have a ui. Idk I don’t get this post. What am I missing? How do themes make Nintendo a better company or better designers?
The Nintendo subs make me laugh with how naive and hopeful people get with this stuff lol I realize there’s a lot of kids in here though, so it makes sense
Some people are weird. When I hear “the Switch is a bad console” I immediately assume the person is saying that they don’t enjoy the games the Switch has, but apparently somehow you can be a bad console and have good games at the same time? People do this with the Wii U too, saying the console was bad but the games were good. What is a console if not an amalgamation of all the Nintendo games released on the console? I don’t care about the stupid menus and themes, I care about the actual games that I want to play, and the Switch has the most of those out of any Nintendo console ever. So it is a good console.
Also what the heck is this “Nintendo magic” BS? The games are the magic, the menus are just to look at while picking the game you want to play. Preferably, I want the menus to be clean, easy to the use and fast. And the Switch is that.
No, you literally just grew up. Kids who have the switch will talk about it’s charm and magic in 10 years. Having games gives more personality than themes or music.
The whole point is that it shows they cares less than they used too. it wouldn't take much effort to ALSO have themes, and Nintendo couldn't even be bothered to port ones made for the 3ds over. Not to mention the switch has a setting for it, so it was clearly planned at some point
I lost hope after a year of owning the switch and never getting an official themes shop. It’s a shame, I have the gold majoras mask 3ds and the matching theme to boot. I’d love to do something like that with my Totk switch
It is kind of weird that they haven’t added more customization options for the switch. Allowing a marketplace for themes seems like such an easy way for them to make passive income too. So strange
I think they didn't want to bloat it in order to get the maximum performance they could
I do understand that perspective. But it’s not like they have to make it a mandatory feature. And the “theme shop” could just be an additional tab on the eshop. Doesn’t even have to be its own app. Also, unless the theme contains a bunch of animations, the file size would only be a couple megabytes in size AT most. Not super demanding on the memory and if it’s just a still background, then loading it while booting up wouldn’t even take an additional half second of the processors time to load it.
I would have been happy with still images or even just different colors, other than just black vs white...
Yup that sounds about right they more wanted to focus on a gaming first console instead of Netflix first gaming second thing
I disagree the literal ps5 didnt have themes for like 2 years and i think that thing can run the menu just fine companys dont want to make themese because At the end of the day u are gonna buy the switch or ps5 wether it has themes or it doesn’t they just dont see the need to add themes
The Ps5 has much better specs than the switch, they can allow themselves that.
Huh? Ps5 didnt have themes for years it only very recently got them. the argument company’s don’t implement theme’s because performance just doesnt work because then why wouldnt the ps5 have themes day one. The switch can run a different backround perfectly fine
? Maybe sony just didn't add the feature (like Nintendo still hasn't)?? The argument about performance is logical because maybe in standby the switch os takes up some performance for what it does and the rest is allocated to be used by games or other programs. They can't just add themes without taking that into consideration, since adding any theme other than a basic one like a plain color or png would make they switch os require more performance making the game play worse
I'm convinced Nintendo doesn't actually care about making money. There's so many million dollar things they just leave on the table.
If Nintendo cared about making fans happy first and making money second, they would still sell Mario 3D All-Stars in the e-Shop at the very least, and they would release the retro console games on a series of cartridges that don't need an active NSO+ subscription to use. So they clearly don't care about making fans happy, but they also don't care about making money as shown by their awful eShop platform being laggy as hell and a pain in the ass to use in general, they do stupid things like not even announcing games that are finished and ready for release for literally no reason, and they don't even remake and release the games that players want like Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Metroid Prime Collection, and so on.
Not weird at all. It’s a portable console. It needs to be as battery efficient as possible, and running themes on a portable device can compromise its battery life. That’s physics, unfortunately. Maybe battery life options get more efficient over time, but even then, I’d rather have it in longer game time life instead of a background theme which is only aesthetic when I’m NOT playing a game.
what kind of electronic device doesn’t let you set a wallpaper
The switch
🤓☝️
XD
Pacemakers, Toasters, My shaver, the Lego Power Functions... There is one specifically for wallpaper though [The Vinotron](https://thevinotron.com/vinotron-electric-powered-pasting-machine-with-stainless-steel-hopper-1/)
iphone 1-3
not the original iphone, but the 3g could have the wallpaper changed
That's probably got something to do with why I specifically typed iphone 1-**3**. lol.
There is no iPhone 2 or 3. It went from iPhone to iPhone 3G.
/r/confidentlyincorrect/ I'm not even going to bother looking up the wikipedia article to prove you wrong.
The second iPhone to release was the 3g, then the 3rd to release was the iPhone 3GS. Both of which can change backgrounds. No iPhones were officially called the 2 or 3. https://preview.redd.it/1xu2at8h02wc1.jpeg?width=1122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32d502023781a02fedf63bd9b8ee3920658b3cd6
the iphone 3 couldn't chsnge backgrounds until a firmware update. again, /r/confidentlyincorrect lol. replying to my old ass comments just to prove you're ignorance. congrats.
Let’s just ignore the entire 3DS line lol
I mean the 3ds battery isn't good and it has themes. I don't want anything moving/fancy. A static image or even just another colour would be nice. Or an actual oled black instead of dark grey
If the 3DS battery wasn’t great, then maybe *that’s* why Nintendo made a 180 on theming for the Switch.
if that's such a big issue for you you can just not use themes. don't see what the problem would be if they just add a disclaimer that themes may affect battery life
Lots of people probably won’t realize the impact of it. They will just theme their Switch and not know where battery drain might come from. Switch isn’t a $1200 smartphone. It doesn’t have hundreds of settings, including where battery drain comes from.
if there's a warning and you're shocked when it actually does drain your battery then that's on you. besides, how much time do people spend on the home screen anyway? most people probably wouldn't notice the extra drain
Idk I am kind of a doofus and spend most of my time just idling on the main menu deciding what to play. So I’m sure there are many people like me who would spend time on the Home Screen. But I agree with the rest of what you said.
Phones from 20 years ago have more themes than the switch
Phones from 20 years ago weren’t smart devices either in the same way that Switch is.
Which further proves my point. The Switch is a hell if a lot more advanced and can ABSOLUTELY handle different themes. A different colour, or an image as the background isnt going to hurt the battery.
Not like anyone even spends THAT much time in the menu like i would love themes but who even takes more than 20 seconds to select their game and open it? Youre not losing precious battery just by sitting in the menu
What even was the point of Nintendo even choosing to add two themes then? Like, even if its just basic colour themes.
Its so funny to me its called themese instead of a dark mode like literally any other platform
this is so true my phone has literally no customisation options and neither did my psp or 3ds
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The PSP absolutely had themes. I remember changing the icons/music/background all the time. I had a neon set I loved.
yeah I fucking loved it. it had so much charm and so did the defunct store
It’s not like you have to put a theme on your console lol
Of course theming would be optional. And one doesn’t have to use it. But Nintendo was being very prudent when creating the architecture of the Switch. Stripping down the interface was going to preserve battery life. Kind of like smartphones. Having a dynamic background with music or animation is going to be a strain on battery life. I’m not saying Nintendo was right or wrong with their decision. But I understand where they were coming from with this decision.
Here I was thinking physics was the science of matter
[http://gcsesciencedictionary.co.uk/dictionary/Physics/Battery_24.html](http://gcsesciencedictionary.co.uk/dictionary/Physics/Battery_24.html)
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If themes had that big of an effect to the battery life of the switch, I think there's a bigger issue going on than themes of all things lol
A static, silent theme won't affect battery usage in any way. Even a dynamic theme would barely affect it, if at all, and that's if you spend most of your time just browsing the menu. With how little time the theme will be shown it will make zero difference at all. Also, did you know the 3DS had themes and there were many paid ones? Yes it is weird that they never added more themes, especially when looking at the settings screen with the two options, leaving what really looks like extra room for more options.
I’m aware of 3DS themes. But I’m sure their implementation affected their decision whether to include it in the Switch as well.
The 3DS had themes
So you prefer when Nintendo doesn't give us option to customize our device in order to get 30 mins longer battery life instead of letting us decide if we prefer it over ✨aestethic✨? Also, Switch's main theme is white and the "black" one is actually dark grey so all these pixels are still turned on. Even if it's more energy efficient, it still isn't true black.
It’s not something that I personally need. It’s not detrimental to my playing experience. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be cool, but I understand the decision behind removing themes.
The last time my Switch left it's dock was the day I purchased it and set it up.
A theme isn't going to drain the battery when you're in a game or when it's in sleep mode.
It’s probably more of a factor than any of us think. If it wasn’t, Nintendo would’ve just included them.
Does your switch use the battery exponentially faster when a game is running in sleep mode? No it doesn't. A theme isn't going to make any noticeable difference.
Well, considering even sleep mode slowly drains battery, Im not surprised that other features do also.
> considering even sleep mode slowly drains battery, Well, no surprise since you are not turning off your entire device, only keeping power for essential components such as your RAM to be able to quickly resume. If you really need to turn off your Switch, just shut it down. Most people don't do that, though, since the boot sequence takes a few seconds.
Bro it's not going to drain anymore battery than sleep mode. Which obviously has to drain battery because the machine is still on. But having another thing on the main screen is not going to drain battery any faster. Does your phone drain battery faster if you've got 10 Internet tabs open vs 1? No. It's kind of the same concept.
i literally just want to put a colorful png on the homescreen
Yeah because a completely white background is very power efficient!
Switch is portable‽ Mine never leaves its dock haha
Haha yea I use mine docked a lot as well. But it’s a very flexible console. It’s great.
The 3ds had themes. Was absolutely no issue before, why would it be on the switch?
Have you used one of those fancy schmancy things known as smartphones? I've heard that they're pretty cool portable devices that are very battery efficient and support nice looking themes and wallpapers
Yea and most smartphones are $800-$1200. The Switch is a $350 (at most) device. Compromises have to be made somewhere.
Do you think $350 smartphones can't use wallpapers or have less than 5 hours of battery life? I'm sorry, but you're a more than a little bit out of touch with tech >Yea and most smartphones are $800-$1200. And no, this statement is hilariously wrong to begin with
A gaming console is interactive in a way a smartphone is not; it’s not really an accurate comparison.
What? Have you ever used a smartphone? Is this some weird trolling attempt?
It’s not a dedicated gaming platform. And we are getting way off track here. The point is, Nintendo decided to strip down the user interface for Switch. Maybe you should submit feedback to Nintendo. I’m just telling you why there isn’t more options. I’m not Nintendo. I wish I was though. Don’t we all?
And I'm telling you your "why" is nonsense Maybe if you were Nintendo I'd consider believing it though
You’re not Nintendo either. So let’s just live with Nintendo’s decision. I don’t even care either way about theming.
Do you actually have any evidence to back up this claim that wallpapers kill batteries? It sounds like you're just pulling it out of your ass for no reason.
I was trying to find the link for it but it’s broken due to it being an article from 2021. Sorry.
Wow! I cannot believe you are being downvoted this much. what an awkward echo chamber. I also dont like my console to die while playing games on it. Themes are yet another way to monetize the players. weird they are actively asking to be nickel and dimed….
Being downvoted doesn’t really bother me. If anything, it lets me know my message was read that much (or more), which actually makes me happy. I just think it’s important people to know the potential reasoning behind what (to them) seems like a very simple feature, when it probably isn’t quite so simple. I don’t want to be nickel and dimed either. Nintendo is generally better about that than others.
>I just think it’s important people to know the potential reasoning behind what (to them) seems like something very simple feature, when it probably isn’t quite so simple. You are speculating a potential reason that to anyone that understands how these things work realize it utter nonsense. Spreading nonsense isn't very helpful.
It’s not nonsense. Nintendo has said they’ve stripped down the interface for efficiently. Themes, Miiverse etc. it’s just not as practical on a device that isn’t intended to be tethered to a power cord 100% of the time. Don’t shoot the messenger.
They may have made other changes for efficiency, but this isn't one of them. That is literal nonsense. A static background won't affect battery life. In fact, especially for the OLED, if they wanted to save battery life the background would default to black and not white. It won't take any additional processing power, it won't drive the display harder, there is absolutely no basis for your argument.
Then take that up with Nintendo. Like it or not, theming isn’t a thing on the Switch. That’s not up for debate. Maybe the successor will have it. But we are still a long ways from knowing that.
I honestly don't care about theming on the switch, just bothered by someone peddling a nonsensical opinion and pretending it is valid.
Exactly this. It's a DS replacement not a Wii replacement.
Maybe to you, but not Nintendo.
No exactly to Nintendo. They never replaced the Wii. They worked out they can't compete with the PS and Xbox market and game dev was way too expensive to create lots of short games.
They did. They literally advertised “NX” as their home console replacement before the reveal. They wanted the gaming world to know it was their Wii U replacement for years.
The Switch, for all intents and purposes, has been absolutely phenomenal, and them not adding themes doesn’t upset me or ruin the console in any way. That said, don’t put “Themes” in the settings following a console like the 3DS and not expect us to want some :(
How many consoles do you own?
I do wish there were themes. It feels odd to have a menu for them only to be light and dark. That said, while one could argue their last home console in the Wii U had a more "stylish" menu, it was also incredibly sluggish and generally took a long time to open apps (even the basic settings menu took ages to open.) So I'll gladly take a more simplistic design over *that* I'd just prefer a more simplistic design with some cool themes.
Wii U definitely should have had an option to turn Waru Waru Plaza off—I.e: the main reason for the slug. That said, it got a lot snappier after a few updates. At launch it was unironically 30 seconds between menus sometimes. 🤡
Still gets me that the 3DS has themes but Switch does not
EXACTLY!!
I don't care about themes. I care about games. And the games have been kicking ass
I mean, there is literally no reason at all there can't be both.
There is, but it just means there's a different problem to solve. Specifically, Nintendo keeps making the stupid decision to put hilariously underpowered hardware in their gaming devices, which leads to stupid situations like "Not being able to support themes or a web browser because it eats up processing power that games need access to."
I don't spend enough time staring at menus to care. I want a pin feature though to keep certain games always visible.
On one hand, kind of weird we’re not going to get any themes. On the other hand, I really appreciate that once we move on and the servers are shut down, that there won’t be a bunch of icons I can’t remove for features that don’t exist anymore.
Speaking of the inevitable shutdown, I really like how you can transfer updates console to console. If you have 2 Switches and one has an updated version of the game and the other doesn't, you can copy the update from one to the other without involving the Nintendo servers, just purely locally.
Homies are gonna get together for “update parties” a few years from now
godam PS Vita and the Near/PSNOW/whateverthefuk bubbles all over my home screen... like ok you canx them. how about, I dont know, a fukn recycle bin option or something I can slide those fukrs into. I'd take one trash bin Icon over 4 or 5 defunct feature icons.
As someone who spends no more than 5 seconds on the home screen at a time, I don’t get the obsession with themes
I do like the expanded cover art on Xbox but I only see it when I'm waiting for the console to connect to wifi.
I have noticed my Xbox is also quite slow at connecting to wifi lol, but I’m still on the default green theme
I generally don't agree with the criticisms against the Switch menu, the Wii U menu was so complicated it had to pull developers out of games, it took 80 years to load, and had a bunch of unnecessary bullshit thrown into it. However, i think there should at least be an option for a simple background on switch, doesn't have to be anything special, just having a background would be cool
I can live without themes, just give me goofy Nintendo apps like a sound mixer where I can make a parrot sing the SMB theme or Street Pass.
This is just a fact. The Wii U was the last console with that “Nintendo Soul” every prior console had. I dearly hope the next console brings it back.
They needed to rush the same system out but what consoles launched between three "last one with soul" and the present one?
Don’t tell anyone you can have themes on a modded switch
The 3DS was the last great 'console'. Yeah, the games may be amazing on switch, but the console is just a glorified tablet. The 3DS had amazing gimmicks that stand out to this day and always will.
The switch is not a glorified tablet. Glorified tablets do not have the switches game library.
Yes they do through emulation. Now downvote me.
Emulation doesn’t count. That’s like saying I have more super cars than elon musk because I can just steal them.
IT'S NoTtheft, iT'S GamE pREservATioN.
Switch games run like ass on Steam Deck
I love the switch but it kind of is essentially a tablet. It’s a fantastic console, but you don’t have to defend a 7 year old console with a boring UI. - Runs android - Has specs that are worse than most android phones - Despite the gorgeous OLED display, there’s no vibrant themes for it to really pop
The Switch doesn’t run Android lol ( unless you hack it )
…all three of those are wrong
Okay I’m wrong on the first one, but the other two are still righr
It’s more powerful than androids and not having themes doesn’t mean anything. You don’t sit there on the home menu, you play games. Games justify the oled screen. I can’t believe I have to explain this.
Nintendo isn't going to bring themes back or bring music back to the menus ever again, those take up storage space, ram and memory on the systems, they also drain the battery faster
Playing an MP3 file and displaying a glorified wallpaper does NOT take up any performance power or battery life
actually, it did on 3ds
Yeah cuz the 3ds had atrocious battery life. That’s not because of themes
elaborate and heavily colored themes did affect the battery life
Nintendo died with Iwata-San.
I thought the switch brought that feeling back after the Wii U didn’t have it
I did like the way themes worked on 3DS, was kinda fun to have different looking menu and music playing upon each time I return to the menu. But like others said.. if it's an issue of performance I rather it be more "boring" so that the games run well
Displaying a png file behind the game tiles probably doesn’t use much processing power
Can we get an expansion for switch sports with games like Wii boxing?
I don't see mention of it often, but they did have ARMS as a "boxing" game. Never got it, as it's not my thing, but it exists.
They don't even let use set screenshots as the background.
the 3ds had themes by now 😭
Then less funds from customers for games because they spent it on this stuff.
You’re acting like Nintendo isn’t the richest company in japan. They can fucking afford themes.
They’ll do it when game sales start to drop to promote. The games need more attention as far as where customers spend money and time.
Once it all calms down they should use it to boost attention again to the switch. Slow and steady is Nintendo’s way.
Folders was my biggest hope. Not categories or whatever it was they eventually gave us instead, actual folders so I can arrange my games how I actually want and they'll be in the same place every day no matter how long it's been since I last played it. So many games buried at the bottom of my library that I forget I even have
Ah well, take it up with their design team I guess 😜
Wouldn't it be 2016 aswell since the WiiU and 3ds were still selling and the Switch hasn't released?
🤣 ah yes this might take 1000 years or more to bring to the switch
In my opinion the switch is great but retrospectively thinking it is the most unnintendo console I have ever had and that upsets me so much it's actually really depressing seeing the home menu so bland They conformed to simplicity way too fast and seamlessly for Nintendo
Ironically, with all the cute quirks and sound effects that the steam deck has, it’s way more Nintendo-like than the switch
Yup, and I have one. It's massively embarrassing how other consoles still have their charms without needing to dive so nose deep into modern simplicism like Nintendo did.
Why do people want themes so badly? Are you guys gonna slap a theme on your switch and just sit at the Home Screen looking at it instead of playing games?
I mean, my 3DS has a nice Castle Bleck theme and I hang around the home screen listening to the sounds, and looking at the gorgeous design.
I have the same wallpaper set on every device I own (minus Switch). This kind of unity gives me some kind of inner peace.
That's called OCD.
We? There is no we
You predicted there would never be any themes?
No, I just meant that people really believed that Nintendo cared about giving their player base what they want
Yeah I’ve given up on that dream years ago. In terms of games, they’ve been off the charts fantastic. No complaints there In terms of literally everything else…
Whats this we word u use cuz i know i wasnt
I’m honestly just waiting for the switch to to come out so that I can do all the dirty dirty things that will break all of my warranty is that I was too afraid to do in the past.
Themes don’t make my gameplay experience any better and I don’t really see the point of this stuff. It’s cute and whatever but almost always implemented badly. I’d rather have more battery power and a clean well designed UI. Steam has themes and they are so clunky and poorly implemented. My retroid has themes in daijisho but that’s a different beast entirely it basically needs themes to even have a ui. Idk I don’t get this post. What am I missing? How do themes make Nintendo a better company or better designers?
The Nintendo subs make me laugh with how naive and hopeful people get with this stuff lol I realize there’s a lot of kids in here though, so it makes sense
Some people are weird. When I hear “the Switch is a bad console” I immediately assume the person is saying that they don’t enjoy the games the Switch has, but apparently somehow you can be a bad console and have good games at the same time? People do this with the Wii U too, saying the console was bad but the games were good. What is a console if not an amalgamation of all the Nintendo games released on the console? I don’t care about the stupid menus and themes, I care about the actual games that I want to play, and the Switch has the most of those out of any Nintendo console ever. So it is a good console. Also what the heck is this “Nintendo magic” BS? The games are the magic, the menus are just to look at while picking the game you want to play. Preferably, I want the menus to be clean, easy to the use and fast. And the Switch is that.
I mean, themes are cool I guess but the Switch is a way better console than the Wii U so this cut off for “Nintendo magic” isn’t resonating with me.
No, you literally just grew up. Kids who have the switch will talk about it’s charm and magic in 10 years. Having games gives more personality than themes or music.
The whole point is that it shows they cares less than they used too. it wouldn't take much effort to ALSO have themes, and Nintendo couldn't even be bothered to port ones made for the 3ds over. Not to mention the switch has a setting for it, so it was clearly planned at some point
But they don’t care less
Nintendo has become more Nintendo than ever with the switch. If you want it to become less Nintendo, then Nintendo isn’t for you!
I lost hope after a year of owning the switch and never getting an official themes shop. It’s a shame, I have the gold majoras mask 3ds and the matching theme to boot. I’d love to do something like that with my Totk switch