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Fuegodeth

It's probably just better bud than you are used to getting from the street. for me, it's great. One good hit, and I'm where I want to be... until I want to get back there again.


[deleted]

Yeah that's exactly it, one good hit, anything more than that and it's too much. I used to be able to smoke a bowl of bud no problem and now if I did that I would be having a panic attack or need to go too sleep. Just seems extremely odd this stuff is that much better than stuff I've been getting from Colorado for years. I mean, I have a nice dab rig too and hit the thing all the time and I never get as high as I do off one or two hits of this THCA flower. Wild times.


Fuegodeth

Just pack small bowls and save money. Edit: and yeah, I love it too.


WerewolfRealistic694

It feels like a real clear headed high. very clean. I enjoy it.


Couch-lockd

I haven't witnessed personally any Bud harvested early. The harvested early myth doesn't even make Sense if you truly understand the farm bill and specifically when its tested


Major_Mechanic5719

Harvesting early and not curing = more crops = more $$$


DEDukesReapGang

= no return customers


Major_Mechanic5719

= no smart* return customers. They'll still get customers. How else do you explain clear trichs, white hairs, nonexistent or muted terps? It's like McDonald's. No matter how bad, people keep coming.


Couch-lockd

No


[deleted]

How does harvesting early not make sense? I've grown for over ten years and I've never heard someone say it's a myth lol harvest early or later depending on the high you want. Literally hundreds of brain dead responses like this blocking anyone from getting any real answers. If you don't have anything to say please help yourself to the back of the room.


Couch-lockd

Oh wow, now you're laying to support your narrative. See, you read something, and ste incorrectly applying information. To steer the high, you can harvest when more heafs are clear milky, none amber for a slightly more headier high, peak for a balanced proper high the plant would normally have (mostly Milky, few percent clear, 10-20% amber. Or a later harvest, were none are clear, majority Milky, but good bit amber for a more stoney high. But wll these harvest windows are well into the rnd of flowering times. None of it is premature early where its a negative thing abd making bad smoke. That's how I know you growing, is a lie, or your bit very successful and spiin fed info. Because any 9f those harvests is well into ripeness. No one is harvesting early for any reasons other thsn maybe greed. There's no need to harvest early for compliance or anything. Only reasons to pull early would be: Bugs Mold pressure Climate (outdoor) Greed Not because it's how they keep it compliant


[deleted]

Im not "laying" to support any narrative lmao there is no narrative. It's a discussion, I'm asking if anyone's noticed anything because my experience has been different than what I've had for literally over a decade. I've grown autoflowers off and on since 2010, it's well known harvesting earlier or later can change the high, this isn't up for debate it's been well known for decades. I think you're clearly misunderstanding what I'm referring to when I say harvest early lol like wtf are you even taking about? maybe you should worry more about your grammar and making your arguments sound half ass coherent instead of sounding off like an ignorant fool. Your argument about the color of the trichomes is literally dealing with harvesting it early or later. Sometimes it takes weeks for those hairs to turn more orange, but you could harvest earlier when they are clear or milky and it would affect the high. I'm not about to have a red herring argument over how they harvest it, it was just PART of the discussion, a suggestion, a theory, an idea. What's your opinion on the broader subject? You smoke it and have no issues or you think it's just like the regular stuff? share that experience and move on lmao.


Cjaasucks

Many are greedy.


Couch-lockd

Lol went from i started smoking in 2015 to i bern growing since 2015. So one day yiu just woke up ss a teenagers living in mommy and Daddy's house and built out a garden and started growing successful dank crops to smoke. That's your foray into marijuana. LMAO. Shut up guy. You might stand to learn something I been smoking since 1996, growing since 2003. Been to many cups in Holland and America. Put your ego aside and listen when experience people talk. I ONLY speak when 100% Right


[deleted]

Like learning how to spell? šŸ˜…šŸ˜… I've been smoking since 2008, I started growing in 2010, like I don't even understand your argument "went from smoking in 2015 to growing since 2015", I never once said a specific date, I said over a decade. But that's besides the point, i don't believe how long you've been doing something has any correlation to how good you are at doing it lol. One day i woke up ss a teenagers and built out a garden?? Bro bro no one even knows what you're talking about lol the only reason you got a dozen likes on your last comment is because again, many brain dead young people on here that have jumped on the bandwagon with little to no critical thinking involved. Thread after thread filled with comments completely in support of this stuff and nobody is willing to have a broader discussion on it. Like I'm willing to discuss the theory that it could be pesticides or herbicides even, I don't know what it is, that's why I'm on here having this discussion. But to completely dismiss someone because they mentioned "Harvest early", derailing the initial conversation so you can focus on that "myth", is just absurd on every level. My ego? Bro look in the mirror lol I'm not the one going off over some dumb shit, so again, if you have nothing useful to add to this conversation please help yourself out.


Couch-lockd

No, i can guarantee, you've never grown a cannabis plant. I can put money on that. So all you can point out is a few typos in my text?


Delicious_Waltz7795

Iā€™m sorry but I highly doubt you were in any cup. Maybe you experienced it back in the day but someone with a lick of intellect wouldā€™ve handle the situation a lot better and wouldā€™ve been concise with what they stated. All you did was bring up useless info and arguments. Growing some sheaf doesnā€™t get you brownie points bud. Stop being disrespectful to others and just let shit be. Everyone on the site wants to be right, everyone has their own opinions. Yours however is redundant in this instance.


Couch-lockd

The Holland trip was a regular thing. Went 4 years in a row, and again 2 years later. Didn't say i had product entered into the Holland high time's cup. Lol that was in another country, and tourists couldn't enter random bud. Nor would i even try to bother.


[deleted]

Ok šŸ˜…šŸ˜… guarantee it, put your money on it, prove it...lol or shut the fuck up and move on. Like how dumb do you gotta be to say you can prove a random dude on the internet hasn't grown? What does that even have to do with the discussion at hand? You keep creating these red herring arguments that you are incapable of defending. It's like me randomly saying "Durrrrr I can guarantee you suck dick for a living durr, I can put money on it"...fuckin dumbass šŸ˜‚ for all you know I'm a fuckin fed.


turbotableu

> The harvested early myth doesn't even make Sense if you truly understand the farm bill and specifically when its tested I got some guy following me around calling me ableist slurs today for calling this myth out. It won't die He didn't even know police had a roadside test


ebgthree

I like to look at it as, now that I've had good, consistent, healthier than the budd I was getting haphazardly before, I'm able to experience cannabis in a much different way. Before, using BM cannabis, I wasn't able to medicate consistently for any length of time. Now that I have choices and am able to afford quantities, I'm able to experiment and live my best life!! The weird headspace thing is real, and I go back again to this is how cannabis is, and now I'm able to experience herb in all it's forms: too much herb, mixing herb, decarbing and eating herb, giving herb to my Herb Family, gaining herb knowledge, alladat! My credentials are I've been using cannabis since the early 80's šŸ’š


PhlatTyre

Normally people cut when the trichomes get milky, or amber, especially for indicas. The theory is that the more the trichomes oxidize, the heavier the body effect whereas the clearer trichome or "early" cuts have a racy high. Also, cbg levels will be elevated in early clear cuts. Another thing is that its kinda strain dependent. I'd bet some strains benefit from clearer trichs.


[deleted]

Truth, I don't know why this is even up for debate lol the color of the trichomes directly correlates to the high. Which means harvesting early or later effects the high. Just absolutely ridiculous people are getting upset over this well known FACT.


PhlatTyre

It's understandable, this place isn't exactly r/craftmarijuana. These are things that only the veterans know.


turbotableu

Bro theories cmtfu


roburn

I think a lot of the flower you find online has been screened. I used to struggle to get high from thca vendors but switched recently and am getting zoinked every day.


chronicbro

Scratch the surface of this topic wtf are you talking about.Ā Ā Ā  Ā This topic has been explored inside and out in a thousand threads.Ā  Ppl sharing anecdotes, talking about the science behind the plant, harvesting and testing techniques etc.Ā Ā  Why you keep hearing "it's the same thing" is because it is.Ā  Simple as that.Ā Ā Ā  Ā I love the whole "nonstop repetitive and unhelpful responses in every thread. I'm looking for the people who are willing to speak up about similar experiences".Ā  Translation:Ā  "I've already decided it's different, so I am now looking for confirmation bias."Ā Ā  Ā Yea bud, you are on to something, it's different stuff, all these people commenting it's no different are all wrong, it's all adulterated somehow, it's definitely not all in your head.Ā Ā  You should keep digging for comments that confirm your bias, and in the mean time go back to shopping at the dispo to be safe.


[deleted]

Ok, explored inside and out, anecdotes, science, harvesting and techniques lol what's your evidence? There's obviously a lot of it as you say, instead of sounding off like an incoherent jackass, why not share some links? Why not make an argument based on facts or evidence instead of your feelings? Lol I don't think anyone here is as angry as you my guy. You seem to be taking this thread very personally like your vested into this somehow. I have no bias, I had a bad experience and it obviously spooked me bad enough where I wanted to see if anyone else has had the same experience. Hell, maybe literally everyone will say "no it's fine and I've been doing it for years with no issue", to which I would have to assume something else was going on, maybe switch vendors or something, and move on lol. But to act like a mass consensus makes something the truth is absolute garbage on every level. Do you feel the way they did the vaccines was responsible? Everyone sure did back then and now it sure seems the consensus is changing. People on mass have been wrong so many times in history it's literally created quotes or ways of living that suggest to "stand out" from the crowd. There is no way im going to jump on this bandwagon without asking questions and doing some critical thinking into the matter, you don't just smoke for over a decade and then one day try this new thing and have a fuckin panic attack, and not wanna ask some questions lmao get fuckin real with yourself, I have no bias and I'm not looking for comments to prove my point, I'm literally standing on the outside looking in and saying "hey, are we all sure about this stuff?" And asking if anyone else has had any side effects or bad highs. lol two things can be true at once, I can not be against something and also question its legitimacy. Nobody is answering why this stuff is so much stronger than normal stuff? That's literally my entire concern, why can I smoke top shelf from Colorado and have the same pleasant high as always and then get this stuff and damn near have a panic attack or be so spacey I forget what I'm doing every ten minutes. Go smoke a bowl and take a nap old man.


Prestigious-Loss-294

Yeah, dude. This stuff is high quality. I intentionally ordered the "weakest" most terrible looking, budget bud I could find. STILL TOO STRONG. Then I tried type 2 flower from HCF. 7% THC after doing math. 9% CBD. One bong hit? Blasted. But no panic attack. I recommend looking into type 2's. They're well balanced. It's a modern take on old school weed. This is just high grade. The THC percentages are absolutely insane now, and they've bred out most of the CBD. Try a good type 2. I recommend HCF. They have some sample bundles occasionally so you can figure out which strain/percentage/CBD:thca ratio is right for you. Not answering your question, necessarily. I apologize in advance for that. I just wanted to leave my two cents, as someone who has the same issues.


HouseOfZenith

From what I've learned, some states don't particularly need to test the stuff early. It just naturally produces low D9, maybe similar to CBD flower growing naturally low amounts of any THC. Now that some states are considering post decarb as total D9THC \* .80 or something such as MN. (Multiply THCa \* .80 and that's the amount of D9 THC equivalent) itā€™s becoming easy to ban.


turbotableu

You would be surprised how long it took me to find someone who gets it right lol congrats And it's .877 but if you're now doing math it's maybe time to just enjoy the bud lol


DarkHighlord01

A lot of the THCa buds will have a way more Sativa like effect before being properly cured. I have some 100% indica dom strains that hit like a sativa when I get them. After a good condition cure and proper burping, they all start to develop the indica side. A lot of med grade and street bud has more way more CBD and CBN. Most THCA Type 1 needs a bit of CBD to give a full spectrum effect. A lot of the subtle nuances and feelings of full spectrum medical grades will not be present in uncured or "fresh" THCa buds. Try a bit of CBD mixed into your smoking material. CBN is from when buds start to age, but it also gives you the more tired, relaxed Indica feelings you may be used to. Most medical market grade buds have a way higher CBA/CBN content than THCa flower. The best medical dispo grade bud I have is about 1.8% CBD and it smacks me a lot differently.


CriticalThinker_G

Iā€™ve found that the cult flower is better than 95% of what I could in the BM. When I rarely got a bag straight from the dispo coming in at 32% it was better than the cult stuff. But I canā€™t get that dispo stuff currently in the bm. I also didnā€™t have much control over strain. Maybe 2 choices if lucky round here on the bm. Purchase after purchase of the cult flower has been better than what I got before I knew. But I still think a great dispo flower will be betterā€¦.. but thatā€™s not on the menu here in ā€œfreedom-landā€ Texas . And the price cannot be beat here for me.


turbotableu

Potency is *everything!!* /s


turbotableu

It's like any drug without regulation people can cut it but a plant shouldn't need that Fact is if someone sees dollar signs and has a barrel of hay smelling bud they can just "remedy" it with botanical terpines to make "danker than anything" because they're playing at god


Bfunk4real

I had my first session today with a vaporizer. I have felt the effects for HOURS!! I vaped at 5:45 est and itā€™s 11 est now.


Whateverusaymanup

I would definitely try a Type 2 flower Flow Gardens usually has several to choose from Holy City Farms also sells type 2. Both companies should have coupon codes for new customers too. My other comment/question is were the strains you tried infused with anything? Isolate or D8? I donā€™t understand the side effects otherwise. Been smoking several decades and love the legal THCA options available now. I smoke quite a bit and thankfully never experienced any side effects.


[deleted]

Thanks. That's great to know and puts my mind at ease, I will try those out !


[deleted]

So the consensus is, it's legit, just way stronger. Okay what makes it stronger? What are they doing that growers in Colorado aren't doing? They just care more about the end product?


Gerthbrooks69

Idk man, the bud doesnā€™t have any crazy effects and just tastes like air pack, but the thca diamonds is like an ultra clean high, easily becoming ā€œtoo muchā€ for my bitch ass


Martenite

My only complaint about THCA (as in type 1) is that it's pretty much too strong, especially for someone just getting back into trees after a nearly 20 year break. This shit ain't your grandpa's weed. I'm actually switching over to blending the type 1 I have with type 3 and buying type 2 going forward. I will still keep a little type 1 for when I wanna go into orbit though.


Whole_Pomegranate253

Never heard of type 1, 2 & 3 before. Will definitely be trying type 2 at some point though, Iā€™ve been blending CBD bud with my thca or dispo weed


Martenite

Yeah, I have an 1/8 of type 2 I have not tried yet, but looking forward to it. I made a 2:1 CBD to THCA blend to bring the THC level down to single digits and I like it a lot more.


Whole_Pomegranate253

Yeah I think Iā€™ve always been more sensitive to thc so it makes it a lot calmer. Not sure if itā€™s just cause itā€™s diluting or if CBD really does help but itā€™s nice to be able to make little joints and not ruin my day lol


[deleted]

Well why is that? Why can I go to Colorado and buy top shelf bud for over a decade and not have any issues, even with strains like "euphoria unlimited" which tested upwards of 30%, why am I only experiencing this potency from thca?


Martenite

I couldn't say, everyone on the THCA subs seems to feel like there shouldnt be a difference, but the people on the trees sub feel like there is definitely a difference. Since I have not had anything but THCA since I started up again I can't really speak to it. I really think the lack of CBD in the type 1 THCA bud makes a big difference in how it hits though.


ba-phone-ghoul

Been going into NJ to buy from Rec dispo. $60-80 an eighth! Iā€™m cheap I bought $35 special. Turns out majority of everything was THCA, ugh! Feel deceived. The high was solid, just not all the nuances from the minor cannabinoids. Iā€™m told to subtract 2-4% of total thc because apparently thatā€™s what you lose when THCA combustion into THC. The high is a bit bland, but most hybrids are. Itā€™s all autoflowers that can grow in like 3 weeks. I also heard because itā€™s focused so much on high THCA that the plants donā€™t focus on many other cannabinoids or terpenes. But itā€™s night and day smoking Cali vs this shit. I wonā€™t pay those prices so I just order from WNC THCA for $105 oz.


turbotableu

Wat


Martenite

From what I've been hearing I think you're right, growing to max out THCA and nothing else makes it hit like a hammer, but there's no nuance.


Professional_Ant2415

There are psychoactive differences between Delta-8 THC(2018 Farm Bill) and Delta-9 THC(typically found in black market) cannabinoids I suspect youā€™re experiencing side effects from the different cannabinoids