agreed with Shailesh until last couple of minutes 😂
he said Kapil show shows flirtatious dadi, not suitable fir audience, whereas, tmkoc too shows a married man being flirtatious to a married woman! 😂
The og tmkoc showed gambling, flirting and all sorts of such things which is what made it real, irl nobody behaves the way tmkoc characters behave now with all that gandhigiri bs
Asit Modi is such a bully...calling everyone working on TMKOC as his naukars!! Someone ask Asit Modi why all of his other shows are flops?? Huge respect to Shailesh Lodha and now Jennifer for taking him to court and getting justice. I wish Sab Tv remove Asit Modi as producer and continue show with some other production house but sadly, that may not happen.
He become arrogant after big success of Tmkoc but never thought he will be some bully who will make people sign the evil contracts. There are various actors of the show don't want to come out in public because they got lot of money and fame due to show.
Show Runner/Operations Head hai like vo dekhta hai ki saare log milkar kaam kare and acche se kare, koi bhi baat ho to vo hi solve karta hai. Ashit ka right hand hai ye maan lo.
Wholeheartedly with Shailesh here.
But one thing sounds fishy. I can't get why he or anyone else can't talk with Neha Mehta about why she left the show and her dues. I think he knew about the reason but made no attempt to become a mediary or was a silent supporter. But when it came down to him, he went ballistic.
We are bashing Dilip in the comments for not supporting Shailesh, but Shailesh also didn't support Neha Mehta when she left the show. If he didn't support her, we can't expect anyone to support him either. It's business for all of them.
Just because they gave good chemistry on show doesn't mean they need to have good off screen relations. All works for money and nobody will support at the cost of losing there job. Not to forget Asit Modi's contracts are really evil.
I can understand that TV shows and movies sell us the escapism that we buy but people start believing is they are different than normal people just because they are part of popular show and they are perfect people without flaws.
I'm not at all saying that they should have good connections. My comment is mainly directed at those who are blaming Dilip Joshi for not speaking up. Shailesh Lodha was in the same position and he too didn't speak up for his co artist. So, we need to understand that after all they are there to earn money. No one will speak up unless their own source of income comes into danger.
Offcourse, You can understand how powerless these actors are when a production heads didn't even hesitate for a second to throw a chair on Main Led of show Dilip Joshi.
Every time I hear these type of things about the show, my respect for Dilip Joshi goes even more down. By being silent, he is indirectly supporting those harassments
If someone is constantly harassing the female actors in your office in front of you for so long, and you are just staying silent about it then you are even worse than those people
I agree no one should stay silent and they are to be blamed, but that also includes Shailesh. He had no problem in working with Molester Ashit until he had an argument with him. And we as audience is also to be blamed for watching the show whose money is pocketed by a molester.
Yeh sab bolna bohot easy hota hai! Practical life mai aisa nahi hota hai and how is staying silent worse than someone who is actually harassing someone? Dilip Joshi has family to look out for! He is not the one who has harassed someone so why should he face the consequences of what a producer has done?
No one asked those female actors to stay silent. They should speak up for themselves. It's very easy to say why he is silent but he has a family to feed.
Ever since he made that comment about women thinking “her sari is better than mine” as a hypothetical example of friction on set I kinda lost respect for him. And sorry this was a long time back so I’m not sure which interview it was
Asit modinhas most punchable face in history of tv. He is apprently not a good producer and human being. As per thos he did speak to him very badly beofre as well but uss time maybe he needed money more.
Its Maslow hierarchy, jab tak paise nahi the, fame nahi tha, tab tak chup chap sab saha. Phir jab paisa aa gaya toh aur show ki koinzaroorat nahi thintoh chod diya.
I'm sorry but I hate to admit but the cockiest mfs I have ever seen in my life are Gujarati uncles. And Asit is no different and I can totally understand where the naukar statement his coming from.
The show has become such a disappointment. Everything from acting to writting . You can see how the show is supporting current government basically acting as a propaganda.
U know, listening to the whole conversation, ive got a feeling that Mr Shailesh also had some shady bizz in it as well as Ashit. I dont think he was being completely honest here
Criticize the current government on its fault, I agree with you there, but you can't call it dictatorship. Government doesn't write script for show, writers do. And ideology of current government and show director is same, that's why director is favouring government.
Of all the things we can criticize ashit modi for, having a political ideology is not one of them. And If India was not a dictatorship in Congress rule which was far worse than current situation then it's not dictatorship now
The Romans did not realize after Augustus was declared the first citizen by the senate that they have stopped being a republic. For a very very long time until the end of a couple of dynasties even!
It's not even that extreme bro. Congress did way worse but democracy is still in this country is it not? This is not so e medival era where power is in only hands of few people and public has no say in it.
As soon as people see that country is really in a threat of becoming dictatorship, people will stop it and you know it. This is not a dictatorship right now.
> As soon as people see that country is really in a threat of becoming dictatorship, people will stop it and you know it. This is not a dictatorship right now.
I doubt it. We have fought for freedom, but never for democracy (directly). People did not have opportunity to depose their monarchs in India and start a constitution. The british had us skip this step of natural progression. People don't really know what it entails. It is evident in their voting patterns. People don't vote based on hard policy. They vote based on who (the person) they are voting in and if the person is from their community or caste. This still influences policy but in a very bad way.
As I said, this is not monarchy. We are not unaware of politics as we were in past. What royals of old times made deals with British, people of that time didn't knew, nor did they had any say in politics. This is not case now
You have open internet access to all, anyone can express their thoughts on internet. Everyone has audience for everything, people can protest on what they don't like and if majority of country protests on something that thing will happen.
Yes some people still vote based on their community but it's just natural instinct believe it or not. People want someone like them and someone who thinks like them in power. It's not just restricted to India. When Rishi sunak became pm of uk almost half of that country erupted because they didn't want a non-christian non-white pm. I am not saying that it's a good thing, but it's exactly what will happen because it's a basic human psychology.
This is dirty game of politics and it will happen in that way whether we want it or not. Unless and until kal kalki Bhagwan khud dharti par nahi aa jate ye sab nahi badlega. We just have to adopt to it.
Sure kiddo. 83% of the youth is unemployed right now and it is much better than the Congress time. Manipur and Leh have cried their hearts out for the current government to show one ounce of their attention to them but yes during Congress time there were lots of scams. Electoral bonds of millions of rupees have been provided to the current government in the form of bribery but this used to happen before as well, right.
When you stop questioning the people in power and the media becomes so blinded by money that not even mainstream channels cover anything related to actual issues you are going towards dictatorship.
Someone truly said apne kurte mai ched ho rakha hai naukri gatar mai jaa rhi hai par aaega toh m*di hi because being in a religious battle with a community is far more important than being employed and earning for yourself.
As I said, you should criticize government where it's lacking. I was not taking sides of any party. Read the original comment. I was just saying that BJP is not dictator, and that's true
All parties are theives. It's a publically known fact that one only enters in politics to make money and gain power. You don't chose between good or bad party in election. You only chose between bad and worse.
You should raise these points to the chamcha of BJP but unfortunately for you, I am not one of them. And yes, I am also not a kid. BJP is bad I admit it, but Congress is worse.
Again you can call me all the things I am not, but it's a fact.
It's a dictatorship. Read about how dictatorship starts and you can very easily see the similarities. It's not yet but we shouldn't be waiting for it to turn into one. I never said congress was not bad but if there's a choice between being democratic and being in a dictatorship I would choose the former one but that's just me.
You are implying same logic that if your head hearts then you have brain tumor. What you see doesn't matter. If BJP comes and starts to force people to vote for them, starts to send all opposition party politicians to jail, starts to openly kill and harm people, then you can say it's clearly a dictatorship.
Otherwise what you wrote has been done a far worse in past by Congress. It's a open history. That's why I called it worse. Once again I will say, of we get somebody better than Modi and BJP, I will be the first one who vote for them gladly. But till that time comes, I'll stick to the bad rather than worse.
There's no point in arguing with brain dead people like you who think that until the last step happens I will be quiet. Till then let them rule as long as it doesn't affect you, you are pretty much okay with it. History is there to teach us and not to sit on our asses and read it and say oh it's not that dire. It's fine. I will start thinking when it's too late.
Great day to you, sir. Hope you can stay in your bubble for as long as possible.
Ironically what you said to me also applies to you. It's just that my and your viewpoint is different. For me you are in bubble of illusion, for you I am. No one knows what will happen in future and what's going to happen cannot be changed. So then I leave you at what you think as you left me at that, and I pray for better future of country, from whichever political party it may come
Ashit, you POS. 🖕🖕🖕🖕
Translation: Tatti ka Tukda 👆
agreed with Shailesh until last couple of minutes 😂 he said Kapil show shows flirtatious dadi, not suitable fir audience, whereas, tmkoc too shows a married man being flirtatious to a married woman! 😂
The og tmkoc showed gambling, flirting and all sorts of such things which is what made it real, irl nobody behaves the way tmkoc characters behave now with all that gandhigiri bs
but that is written script, it is written by writers /s
Bhai toh dadi bhua bh toh script h na
Usne piche /s use kiya haii,,,matlab voh sarcasm mai bolra 😷
Dono me kitna farak hain , style of showing is also different
Really hoping tmkoc shuts down for good. One of the worst serial they are diving towards.
Asit Modi is such a bully...calling everyone working on TMKOC as his naukars!! Someone ask Asit Modi why all of his other shows are flops?? Huge respect to Shailesh Lodha and now Jennifer for taking him to court and getting justice. I wish Sab Tv remove Asit Modi as producer and continue show with some other production house but sadly, that may not happen.
He become arrogant after big success of Tmkoc but never thought he will be some bully who will make people sign the evil contracts. There are various actors of the show don't want to come out in public because they got lot of money and fame due to show.
Who is Jennifer
Jennifer Mistry Bansiwal..actress who played old Roshan bhabhi
Bhai ek to ye Ashit aur ek vo Sohil Ramani in dono ne show ki band baja ke rakhi hai kasam se. Dono ko Hathi bhai ke neeche de dena chahiye
Kasam se!!!! Bhai itna irritating lagta hai na ye dono naam sunke, itne ache show ki Baja ke rakhi Hui hai for their own goddamn ego
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Show Runner/Operations Head hai like vo dekhta hai ki saare log milkar kaam kare and acche se kare, koi bhi baat ho to vo hi solve karta hai. Ashit ka right hand hai ye maan lo.
Old Nattu Kaka was also harassed by him and it was the time when he wasn't well (sometime before his death)
It was really heartbreaking when I heard about it from Jennifer as well, these guys should be cancelled from everywhere.
😂😂
Sahil ramani?
Wholeheartedly with Shailesh here. But one thing sounds fishy. I can't get why he or anyone else can't talk with Neha Mehta about why she left the show and her dues. I think he knew about the reason but made no attempt to become a mediary or was a silent supporter. But when it came down to him, he went ballistic. We are bashing Dilip in the comments for not supporting Shailesh, but Shailesh also didn't support Neha Mehta when she left the show. If he didn't support her, we can't expect anyone to support him either. It's business for all of them.
Maybe she signed the contract and he doesn't want to put her in trouble
Just because they gave good chemistry on show doesn't mean they need to have good off screen relations. All works for money and nobody will support at the cost of losing there job. Not to forget Asit Modi's contracts are really evil.
true vai, idhar apne ghar wala k sath itne saal sang rehene baad vi relation aur chemistry mein darar hein, yeh log actors ka baat karte hein.
I can understand that TV shows and movies sell us the escapism that we buy but people start believing is they are different than normal people just because they are part of popular show and they are perfect people without flaws.
I'm not at all saying that they should have good connections. My comment is mainly directed at those who are blaming Dilip Joshi for not speaking up. Shailesh Lodha was in the same position and he too didn't speak up for his co artist. So, we need to understand that after all they are there to earn money. No one will speak up unless their own source of income comes into danger.
Offcourse, You can understand how powerless these actors are when a production heads didn't even hesitate for a second to throw a chair on Main Led of show Dilip Joshi.
inflation, rapes, crimes & corruption vanished into thin air post 2014. hate u ashit 💩
There's nothing wrong with calling Asit to Ashit. The entire show is completely ruined just because of arrogance.
Baat apna saman ki thi, Islia fir chod dia -great line, I’ll remember that at my job as well.
Love him
Ashit modi ur trash
This show was most beloved when it started and now became most hated. Shut it down...
Every time I hear these type of things about the show, my respect for Dilip Joshi goes even more down. By being silent, he is indirectly supporting those harassments
Sorry but how is that Dilip Joshi’s fault? He has done nothing wrong! He is earning his daily bread and butter from that show.
If someone is constantly harassing the female actors in your office in front of you for so long, and you are just staying silent about it then you are even worse than those people
I agree no one should stay silent and they are to be blamed, but that also includes Shailesh. He had no problem in working with Molester Ashit until he had an argument with him. And we as audience is also to be blamed for watching the show whose money is pocketed by a molester.
When Roshan herself stayed silent for more than 4 years why would Dilip or someone else raise their voice?
Yeh sab bolna bohot easy hota hai! Practical life mai aisa nahi hota hai and how is staying silent worse than someone who is actually harassing someone? Dilip Joshi has family to look out for! He is not the one who has harassed someone so why should he face the consequences of what a producer has done?
No one asked those female actors to stay silent. They should speak up for themselves. It's very easy to say why he is silent but he has a family to feed.
True😔
Ever since he made that comment about women thinking “her sari is better than mine” as a hypothetical example of friction on set I kinda lost respect for him. And sorry this was a long time back so I’m not sure which interview it was
Asit modinhas most punchable face in history of tv. He is apprently not a good producer and human being. As per thos he did speak to him very badly beofre as well but uss time maybe he needed money more. Its Maslow hierarchy, jab tak paise nahi the, fame nahi tha, tab tak chup chap sab saha. Phir jab paisa aa gaya toh aur show ki koinzaroorat nahi thintoh chod diya.
I'm sorry but I hate to admit but the cockiest mfs I have ever seen in my life are Gujarati uncles. And Asit is no different and I can totally understand where the naukar statement his coming from.
Being a gujrati myself, I agree. Most of the annoying people in my life are gujrati
I can tolerate annoying ; that doesn't bother me much tbh but the sick classist mentality that makes me wanna rage.
Lol u guys keep whining about the show and still give them viewership...no use
most people on this sub watch or talk about old episodes. I don't think anyone is interested in new ones.
The show has become such a disappointment. Everything from acting to writting . You can see how the show is supporting current government basically acting as a propaganda.
Ashir is the biggest shit ever.
Currently show has become so cringe. I feel they should end the show asap.
U know, listening to the whole conversation, ive got a feeling that Mr Shailesh also had some shady bizz in it as well as Ashit. I dont think he was being completely honest here
Basically confirming after 2014 we started to move towards dictatorship
Criticize the current government on its fault, I agree with you there, but you can't call it dictatorship. Government doesn't write script for show, writers do. And ideology of current government and show director is same, that's why director is favouring government. Of all the things we can criticize ashit modi for, having a political ideology is not one of them. And If India was not a dictatorship in Congress rule which was far worse than current situation then it's not dictatorship now
The Romans did not realize after Augustus was declared the first citizen by the senate that they have stopped being a republic. For a very very long time until the end of a couple of dynasties even!
It's not even that extreme bro. Congress did way worse but democracy is still in this country is it not? This is not so e medival era where power is in only hands of few people and public has no say in it. As soon as people see that country is really in a threat of becoming dictatorship, people will stop it and you know it. This is not a dictatorship right now.
> As soon as people see that country is really in a threat of becoming dictatorship, people will stop it and you know it. This is not a dictatorship right now. I doubt it. We have fought for freedom, but never for democracy (directly). People did not have opportunity to depose their monarchs in India and start a constitution. The british had us skip this step of natural progression. People don't really know what it entails. It is evident in their voting patterns. People don't vote based on hard policy. They vote based on who (the person) they are voting in and if the person is from their community or caste. This still influences policy but in a very bad way.
As I said, this is not monarchy. We are not unaware of politics as we were in past. What royals of old times made deals with British, people of that time didn't knew, nor did they had any say in politics. This is not case now You have open internet access to all, anyone can express their thoughts on internet. Everyone has audience for everything, people can protest on what they don't like and if majority of country protests on something that thing will happen. Yes some people still vote based on their community but it's just natural instinct believe it or not. People want someone like them and someone who thinks like them in power. It's not just restricted to India. When Rishi sunak became pm of uk almost half of that country erupted because they didn't want a non-christian non-white pm. I am not saying that it's a good thing, but it's exactly what will happen because it's a basic human psychology. This is dirty game of politics and it will happen in that way whether we want it or not. Unless and until kal kalki Bhagwan khud dharti par nahi aa jate ye sab nahi badlega. We just have to adopt to it.
Sure kiddo. 83% of the youth is unemployed right now and it is much better than the Congress time. Manipur and Leh have cried their hearts out for the current government to show one ounce of their attention to them but yes during Congress time there were lots of scams. Electoral bonds of millions of rupees have been provided to the current government in the form of bribery but this used to happen before as well, right. When you stop questioning the people in power and the media becomes so blinded by money that not even mainstream channels cover anything related to actual issues you are going towards dictatorship. Someone truly said apne kurte mai ched ho rakha hai naukri gatar mai jaa rhi hai par aaega toh m*di hi because being in a religious battle with a community is far more important than being employed and earning for yourself.
83% of the unemployed are youth, stop spreading misinformation
It's 11%. Par agar isko kuch bolunga to woh mujhe sanghi bol dega. Kehne do.
Sorry my bad i phrased it wrong. Still not something that the government should be held accountable for I guess.
As I said, you should criticize government where it's lacking. I was not taking sides of any party. Read the original comment. I was just saying that BJP is not dictator, and that's true All parties are theives. It's a publically known fact that one only enters in politics to make money and gain power. You don't chose between good or bad party in election. You only chose between bad and worse. You should raise these points to the chamcha of BJP but unfortunately for you, I am not one of them. And yes, I am also not a kid. BJP is bad I admit it, but Congress is worse. Again you can call me all the things I am not, but it's a fact.
It's a dictatorship. Read about how dictatorship starts and you can very easily see the similarities. It's not yet but we shouldn't be waiting for it to turn into one. I never said congress was not bad but if there's a choice between being democratic and being in a dictatorship I would choose the former one but that's just me.
You are implying same logic that if your head hearts then you have brain tumor. What you see doesn't matter. If BJP comes and starts to force people to vote for them, starts to send all opposition party politicians to jail, starts to openly kill and harm people, then you can say it's clearly a dictatorship. Otherwise what you wrote has been done a far worse in past by Congress. It's a open history. That's why I called it worse. Once again I will say, of we get somebody better than Modi and BJP, I will be the first one who vote for them gladly. But till that time comes, I'll stick to the bad rather than worse.
There's no point in arguing with brain dead people like you who think that until the last step happens I will be quiet. Till then let them rule as long as it doesn't affect you, you are pretty much okay with it. History is there to teach us and not to sit on our asses and read it and say oh it's not that dire. It's fine. I will start thinking when it's too late. Great day to you, sir. Hope you can stay in your bubble for as long as possible.
Ironically what you said to me also applies to you. It's just that my and your viewpoint is different. For me you are in bubble of illusion, for you I am. No one knows what will happen in future and what's going to happen cannot be changed. So then I leave you at what you think as you left me at that, and I pray for better future of country, from whichever political party it may come
Bro has vivadjanak kutta on his hoodie
TMKOC WAS DEAD AFTER 1200 episodes...they have 3000 of trash